[IC] GMK sets interest check and planning

[IvanIvanovich]

The old ones the window was doubleshot, and making triple shot with legend and window is quite rare but there is some that exist.

[keymaster]

In Dolch we trust!

[pmh1410]

+1 for DolSKI keyset

[Caaaarrrt]

Go DolSKI! Dare to be different!

[sherryton]

Ah I see, just wondering if doubleshot windowed step caps lock was made yet

That would require triple shot.  The double shot is what they do with the LED Window, then they would have to pad print the top.

[Tarzan]

Dolch white on grey/charcoal.
US ANSI

Scoops.

 

[keymaster]

SkiData was just announced @ Originative: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40315.msg805336

We may now proceed with the Dolch

[OrangeJewce]

SkiData was just announced @ Originative: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40315.msg805336

We may now proceed with the Dolch

The other Set I feel almost 100% sure will be Dolch. Rememer that Sherry said he had two new sets coming in. Grey, Grey, and more Grey. That doesn't leave many other options. I Think we should either A) Do DolSKI, or Handarbeit at this point. Ivan/lysol, where do we stand on the polling?

Cheers,

[danielucf]

SkiData was just announced @ Originative: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40315.msg805336

We may now proceed with the Dolch

Are you sure? He said two sets arrived and only announced one as SkiData with a slightly different orange color because the original isn't available. The other set could still be dolch. Sorry to rain on your parade.

[keymaster]

SkiData was just announced @ Originative: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40315.msg805336

We may now proceed with the Dolch

Are you sure? He said two sets arrived and only announced one as SkiData with a slightly different orange color because the original isn't available. The other set could still be dolch. Sorry to rain on your parade.

Parade? We're getting Dolch either way. I'd actually prefer to just go through a vendor since this group buy will take too long.

[leesofi]

I dont understand sherry hide to us after he know what we discuss is he ordered to gmk already.
We are talking poll discussion, sherrys same item make us futile.
Avoid avoid. Its not iphone or galaxyS.
I hope sherry make clear what he orederd and we should choose too.
murmuring in midnight..

[OrangeJewce]

SkiData was just announced @ Originative: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40315.msg805336

We may now proceed with the Dolch

Are you sure? He said two sets arrived and only announced one as SkiData with a slightly different orange color because the original isn't available. The other set could still be dolch. Sorry to rain on your parade.

Parade? We're getting Dolch either way. I'd actually prefer to just go through a vendor since this group buy will take too long.

I really don't get what your op was trying to achieve then. If anything you should advocate against this GB doing dolch then so that a Vendor is more likely to pick it up :/

Cheers,

[keymaster]

SkiData was just announced @ Originative: http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40315.msg805336

We may now proceed with the Dolch

Are you sure? He said two sets arrived and only announced one as SkiData with a slightly different orange color because the original isn't available. The other set could still be dolch. Sorry to rain on your parade.

Parade? We're getting Dolch either way. I'd actually prefer to just go through a vendor since this group buy will take too long.

I really don't get what your op was trying to achieve then. If anything you should advocate against this GB doing dolch then so that a Vendor is more likely to pick it up :/

Cheers,

I was excited since I thought his post would have ended the speculation of whether or not he's going to be selling Dolch sets, which would have expedited this group buy or made them available through Originative. However, it seems like he's still to reveal another set.

Either way, we're most likely to end up with Dolch unless the thread starter changes his mind.

[fruktstund]

Hm, since it might still be Dolch, I propose: create a group buy now with primary prices and lock everybody's money in. This way we might meet MOQ and get cheaper and internationalised sets.

Nobody will agree with me, but someone had to say it.

[Acetrak]

This is just a preliminary IC right now, I think Ivan has mentioned a couple times that we have not confirmed a time slot for a GB yet.

[absyrd]

Interesting (quasi)news from Originative.

Handarbeit might have to be it for this GB now.

[OrangeJewce]

Interesting (quasi)news from Originative.

Handarbeit might have to be it for this GB now.

DolSKI is still an option in theory.

Cheers,

[rknize]

Based on the evidence, I'd have to agree.  He may be holding back to keep some buzz going while he works logistics with the new sets and his busted website.  Given the amount of coin he has sunk into this, I guess I can understand.  It's annoying to keep everyone hanging, though.

I propose that once the final set is announced, we completely reboot this interest check.  I don't know about others, but I've wanted a Dolch set since forever and I didn't even begin to consider any of the other sets in this GB (except for maybe DolSki).  If Originative stocks Dolch and SkiData, then we should just move on to something more interesting or exotic.  A different frame of mind may produce different polling results.

[absyrd]

Yeah... it is a good thing, for once, that this IC has been so slow-moving and careful. If it wasn't for the speculation by a few members, we might already be neck deep in an order that would probably hurt most GBers and Sherry.

[jdcarpe]

Pretty sure there is some interest in doing DolSki with SP using DSA profile.

Future IC for GMK GB would probably be wise to go with TA, Handarbeit, or something completely different and unique.

[IvanIvanovich]

Yes I think rebooting is the wisest choice if proceeding with full sets at all. On the other hand I have a mind to just focus on smaller patch kits for modifiers sets and international keys and some other fun stuff. But for now I am putting this on the back burner while getting ready to start the groupbuy for the already in process white on purple modifiers pack, cmyk, and esc pack. For those that have not been keeping an eye on that all the plastic colors have arrived to GMK and they will be sending me samples next week. Once I have those reviewed and they are what we asked for I will move that into a buy status which I expect to be within the month depending on how long the samples take to reach me.

[Alessandro]

Has there been any news on a vendor running Coffee on Cream?

[Acetrak]

Has there been any news on a vendor running Coffee on Cream?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36743.msg796197#msg796197

[OrangeJewce]

Yes I think rebooting is the wisest choice if proceeding with full sets at all. On the other hand I have a mind to just focus on smaller patch kits for modifiers sets and international keys and some other fun stuff. But for now I am putting this on the back burner while getting ready to start the groupbuy for the already in process white on purple modifiers pack, cmyk, and esc pack. For those that have not been keeping an eye on that all the plastic colors have arrived to GMK and they will be sending me samples next week. Once I have those reviewed and they are what we asked for I will move that into a buy status which I expect to be within the month depending on how long the samples take to reach me.

C'mon, you know a Handarbeit Buy would be great success!

Cheers,

[Alessandro]

Has there been any news on a vendor running Coffee on Cream?

http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=36743.msg796197#msg796197

I was thinking of someone running it through GMK while it was suggested, but still cool!

[gojira54]

Hm, since it might still be Dolch, I propose: create a group buy now with primary prices and lock everybody's money in. This way we might meet MOQ and get cheaper and internationalised sets.

Nobody will agree with me, but someone had to say it.

Yep I agree. I'll put the cash up now for a set, don't mind a wait

[jdcarpe]

For all those waiting for Coffee and Cream...

http://www.keypop.net/product/pre-order-coffee-set
(SP doubleshot ABS)

[Matt3o]

For all those waiting for Coffee and Cream...

http://www.keypop.net/product/pre-order-coffee-set
(SP doubleshot ABS)

if that is TGH, it's chocolate, coffee is TBN

[Tarzan]

Just to be clear, we're NOT doing the Dolch white on grey/charcoal?  And this is because someone else is running an IC/GB on this color combo?

I've only started buying custom keycaps, and still haven't figured out all the tribal customs for the GH community.   

[absyrd]

Just to be clear, we're NOT doing the Dolch white on grey/charcoal?  And this is because someone else is running an IC/GB on this color combo?

I've only started buying custom keycaps, and still haven't figured out all the tribal customs for the GH community.   

Yes. Originative is supposedly releasing dolch-esque sets.

[OrangeJewce]

Just to be clear, we're NOT doing the Dolch white on grey/charcoal?  And this is because someone else is running an IC/GB on this color combo?

I've only started buying custom keycaps, and still haven't figured out all the tribal customs for the GH community.   

I think it's easy to say that we're pandering to a vendor, but I think the real problem here is GMK has an extremely high MOQ for a set to be run. Add in the significant lead-time, and I don't think we'd hit 400 orders of Dolch if a vendor like Originative had the same set available, even if the price is higher than a GB. That's just the economic reality.

Additionally, I do not forsee this GB actually proceeding in the near future.
1) GMK is stupidly slow. (See getting colors for the mod GB)
2) Organisers are focusing on the smaller, Mod GB from GMK
3) We don't know what is in the vendor pipeline because they refuse to talk to us for unknown reasons.
4) GMK appears to be extremely busy with huge orders, and thus even if we do proceed, we could be usurped by 3), This is a real concern because it's already happened.

Cheers,

[Dianoda]

Just to be clear, we're NOT doing the Dolch white on grey/charcoal?  And this is because someone else is running an IC/GB on this color combo?

I've only started buying custom keycaps, and still haven't figured out all the tribal customs for the GH community.   

We think sherryton/originative (see originative in the vender subforum) or possibly another vendor may have a GMK dolch kit in production or otherwise in the works.  So far sherry has announced GMK doubleshot kits for skidata (orange on charcoal, not yet available for sale) and olivetti (blue on white/beige and black on white/beige, available for sale at originative's site).

That's what has chilled this IC - until we know what is coming it's difficult for us to more forward with full GMK kits, because an identical set could come from a vendor and throw a wench in our plans (as it already has).  400 sets as MOQ is quite the hurdle as well.  Personally, I think our best bet could be to develop an original colorway or two that prove popular, but for now we are playing the waiting game to see what shakes out (at this point, I'm most excited about the CYM-K mod kit in the other GMK IC thread).

Dolch will happen - we just don't know from who.

[IvanIvanovich]

Yes you guys summed up the situation quite well.

[Dianoda]

I could also mention that I've started working on some original colorway designs that I'll post once we reboot this IC.  Here's a teaser: forest green on light gray with light grey on crimson mods; another is black on gray alternating with white on black, red on yellow mods (I've dubbed it the 'caution' set).  I've made a bunch more but those two are my favorites so far.

[Turbo Slaab]

Why not do all the tsangan/moogle kits instead of the full kits for the time being? There is always a need and want for those.

[bazemk1979]

So in order to have GB happening trough GMK for a full set it has to be a unique 104 set that lots of people are interested in it. But it has to be unique.... something so unique that you wont even have to do interest check, just go straight to GB but with anouncement trough the forum that GB for full set from GMK has started. 

This way its rare, desirable, and people will jump on it if I'm not mistaken....

call me crazy but I think "Handerbeit" full 104 set  can make this happen, most of the peeps here are crazy about it...

[rknize]

For the record, I would never buy that. 

[Halverson]

For the record, I would buy that, twice! 

FTFY!

[jil_jil32]

I will buy it for some keys, not interested in using the whole set.

[Jocelyn]

For the record, I would buy that, twice! 

FTFY!

Now he's just going to say two times zero is zero lol.

Also, I might be interested in a set.

[Halverson]

For the record, I would buy that, twice! 

FTFY!

Now he's just going to say two times zero is zero lol.

Also, I might be interested two sets.

Fixed that for you as well! Hah!

[rknize]

I will restrain myself.

[ishumprod]

the DolSKI looks so amazing

[IvanIvanovich]

I think we will see how the modifiers buy goes and take it from there. Maybe instead of full set we will do more interesting smaller things, which can be build into a full set of some sort? Pretty sure we will abandon any classics (bar patch kits) and just go for community colorways of stuff that don't exist before. I will probably keep voting results more close to the vest moving on. Don't want this to be market research for vendors.
The modifiers buy will likely starting next week. Just ironing out a few final details with GMK to make sure everything is correct and organized well from the begining.

[esoomenona]

^I agree about the market research thing. Snatching up our work for their sets. I think we should get people to try to commit themselves to things here. If you don't want to commit, and are ready to just jump ship to anything else, try to not say you're in. Anyone else agree with that? I'm ready for the CMYK though. Black and white legends, WK and WKL.

[Acetrak]

The modifiers buy will likely starting next week.

You're just full of good news today aren't ya

[OrangeJewce]

I think we will see how the modifiers buy goes and take it from there. Maybe instead of full set we will do more interesting smaller things, which can be build into a full set of some sort? Pretty sure we will abandon any classics (bar patch kits) and just go for community colorways of stuff that don't exist before. I will probably keep voting results more close to the vest moving on. Don't want this to be market research for vendors.
The modifiers buy will likely starting next week. Just ironing out a few final details with GMK to make sure everything is correct and organized well from the begining.

How sad is it that we've come to this, with regards to the marketing research. That we should feel betrayed by the vendors and have to operate with a veil of secrecy just like them. To be honest, it kind of makes me sick. I'm starting to understand why OTD has such strict rules.

Cheers,

[vorn]

This might be a bit obvious, but it really would be one heck of a combo!!!

[Lighthouse1]

That's a great looking colour set. Though I'd like a plain Dolch one.

There are a couple of issues with vendor sets it seems. Firstly there is only an ANSI option. Which means a lot of varieties across countries and board types are not catered for. Secondly you cannot buy anything as the website who might sell them (and might not) is broken and no payments are accepted. That seems less varied and less reliable than a group buy.

I am just a newbie but have now leapt into a couple of group buys and they seem to be well organised, fairly quick and have a good set of options for everyone. It seems to be that everyone is waiting for vendors to pick these things up but the vendor with the GMK relationship seems less reliable than people on the forum doing it for fun.

It's great to see the modifiers buy coming along but its quite an unusual colour (I am in for a set, nonetheless). The classics, which would make MOQ, appear to be less likely to be available than before due to the vendor issue.

[sleepy916]

This ever going to get off the ground? ;[