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IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 15:56:03 »
Considering the general price I'm gathering for Model M SSKs, this one's fairly cheap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Clicky-Keyboard-PS-2-/390537543429?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5aedd9ff05

Not even marketed as an SSK. Guy probably doesn't know what he's got. I really hope I don't see this one getting resold...
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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 15:58:47 »
Considering the general price I'm gathering for Model M SSKs, this one's fairly cheap.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/IBM-Model-M-Clicky-Keyboard-PS-2-/390537543429?pt=PCA_Mice_Trackballs&hash=item5aedd9ff05

Not even marketed as an SSK. Guy probably doesn't know what he's got. I really hope I don't see this one getting resold...

3 days left until it ends so....



I'm going to guess it sells at at least $150 but more than likely closer to $190
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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 16:08:23 »
I was going to say no less than $190.

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 16:10:06 »
I was going to say no less than $190.

I'm surprised jdcarpe hasn't sold his yet, it's a decent deal for what you get
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IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 16:10:07 »
Damn...I should sell an SSK, make some moneyz!

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 16:10:29 »
Damn...I should sell an SSK, make some moneyz!

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 16:11:11 »
I've been watching this as well. There's just no info for it - I am afraid it will arrive with some of the plastic clamps broken. Most of the old BS boards have this issue which changes the feel of the board.
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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 16:12:01 »
That's the risk of buying these on eBay.  I'm sure it will get sniped at the very end.
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« Reply #8 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 16:12:31 »
Damn...I should sell an SSK, make some moneyz!

Make money but loose a boss ass board

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 16:13:43 »
Damn...I should sell an SSK, make some moneyz!

Make money but loose a boss ass board

Who says I don't have a backup ;)

Arent you just gonna grab tsangan's MEGA set ;)
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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 16:32:47 »
I don't get this people who unnecessary increase the price of the item biding 3 days before auction's ending.

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 17:03:12 »
I don't get this people who unnecessary increase the price of the item biding 3 days before auction's ending.
I don't see how it isn't necessary. Someone sets their limit at (for example) $100. Someone comes along and wants to set a limit of $55. They do so, and are immediately outbid. That's that, right?

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 17:45:02 »
As each bid comes in, there is an upward pressure psychologically. Ebay posts "official" bids immediately, and everyone can see them.

The guy that only wanted to bid $50 may go up when he realizes he is losing his chance.

That is why sniping is valuable, because everyone does not get swept up into a "feeding frenzy" of bidding, since snipes are silent and blind until near the end.
"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 18:28:23 »
That is why sniping is valuable, because everyone does not get swept up into a "feeding frenzy" of bidding, since snipes are silent and blind until near the end.

So true, I have lost some items through that type of bidding.  You become so confident that there won't be any more bidding in the last 10 seconds then out of the blue wham, bam, thank you mame, you've lost out to someone else.  It just maybe due to fohat........hehehe.  :p

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 19:58:38 »
I ALWAYS snipe, but I don't buy very much.

I think anyone who bids regularly and does not snipe is insane and loves to waste money.
"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 07 February 2013, 20:25:28 »
I think anyone who bids regularly and does not snipe is insane and loves to waste money.

Yep, I reside in that place and burn my money regularly.  Of course Geekhack sometimes contributes to a lower bank account amount.

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #16 on: Fri, 08 February 2013, 00:10:08 »
Can't really tell from the crummy pictures how good or bad it is.  The Tab key looks goofy though.  The top arrow on the Tab key is way too high.

If you think it is better to bid than to snipe (bid right before the auction ends), just wait and see how many of those bidders will win.  Possibly none of them.

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 08 February 2013, 00:50:14 »
I've seen stuff go for more than you can buy it retail during a sniping feeding frenzy.
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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 08 February 2013, 07:28:27 »
Like everything, you just have to decide how much you are really willing to pay, and put in that amount.

Sniping merely ensures that you will get your best offer in at the only time it will accomplish your goal - the end.

In a live auction, everybody is yelling and trying to outdo one another until all but one give up in exhaustion.

In a silent auction, the only bid that matters is the one that is highest .001 second before the bell.

If you are only willing to go $100 and someone else will go $101, you will lose, in any case, everything else equal.

But if that $101 guy is only in for $90, just before the end, and you can get in at $91 before he can respond, you win at that price.

True, a "real" ebay bid goes in after all snipes, so if you REALLY want it, you need to put in a sky-high ebay bid and blow everybody else away.

Sniping guarantees you get your best shot at your selected price point. No more, no less.

It is faster and more dependable than human fingers, costs only pennies, and even then, only if you win.
"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
- Marc Sumner 2025-05-30

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 11 February 2013, 13:15:39 »
There was no sniping in this one. I was looking at it and someone bidded $205 fairly early, turns out that was the ending price.

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 11 February 2013, 13:24:17 »
Good. People need to get their SSK's already and forget about it.... it's time for prices to go down. I don't wanna pay over 150 for mine....
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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 11 February 2013, 13:31:21 »
Wow...$205.  I am not surprised that it didn't go higher than that.
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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 11 February 2013, 15:24:04 »
Like everything, you just have to decide how much you are really willing to pay, and put in that amount.

Sniping merely ensures that you will get your best offer in at the only time it will accomplish your goal - the end.

In a live auction, everybody is yelling and trying to outdo one another until all but one give up in exhaustion.

In a silent auction, the only bid that matters is the one that is highest .001 second before the bell.

If you are only willing to go $100 and someone else will go $101, you will lose, in any case, everything else equal.

But if that $101 guy is only in for $90, just before the end, and you can get in at $91 before he can respond, you win at that price.

True, a "real" ebay bid goes in after all snipes, so if you REALLY want it, you need to put in a sky-high ebay bid and blow everybody else away.

Sniping guarantees you get your best shot at your selected price point. No more, no less.

It is faster and more dependable than human fingers, costs only pennies, and even then, only if you win.

The problem is that you're exactly right, but that hobbyist buyers logically shouldn't act the way you say they do. But they do anyway.

If a buyer knows his set value is $101, there's no reason to not put that down as your bid on eBay, as its auctions are all second-price. If he wins, that means he either got it for cheaper than $101 (and his surplus comes as extra "happiness"), or sufficiently satisfied that he traded currency for an item exactly worth exactly that price to him. And if he loses, he should be okay because he keeps that amount. There really is no need to try to "game" a second-price auction, although because eBay always displays the current second-highest bid, people always feel the need to because they think they have "extra information". I'm guilty of this as well.

Sniping generally shouldn't matter if everyone has set number as to how they value the item. Unfortunately the stereotypical hobbyist is always confused as to what his own number is and tends to be willing to overshoot in a snipe. This is because rather than trying to get the most out of what he wants in the transaction, he gets more concerned with winning, as though it were part of his constantly-changing value. And maybe it is, because in hobbies like keyboards, getting an item for its rarity sometimes seems like a bigger deal than the item itself.
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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 11 February 2013, 15:36:55 »
Perhaps you are right, but for me, it is the opposite.

I will usually add a snipe for an item as soon as it goes up, and then I am done. Auction Sniper will notify me if the current bid has gone over my snipe, and on a rare occasion I will up my snipe a bit, but more often I cancel out the snipe and forget about it.

But otherwise, I would be far more prone to "overshoot" in a live action situation than I would on a snipe that I had made days in advance, with a cool head.

Also, I don't know if it is the same will all the services, but Auction Sniper locks you out from changing your snipe in the last 5 minutes.
"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
- Marc Sumner 2025-05-30

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 11 February 2013, 20:38:20 »

But otherwise, I would be far more prone to "overshoot" in a live action situation than I would on a snipe that I had made days in advance, with a cool head.


Having a Cool head on Ebay is never common.  The act of bidding forces all decency and decorum out the window.  That is how I lose a lot on Ebay by "Live-bidding" while later finding out how stupid I was for even bothering to go after the item in the first place.  I always have massive "Buyers Remorse" when bidding on Ebay.

I just grab a bottle and curl up on the sofa for a couple of hours......... :'(

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Re: IBM Model M SSK (eBay)
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 12 February 2013, 08:22:57 »
I recommend that you make a habit of putting a "lowball" snipe on anything that turns up that strikes your fancy.

You do not pay for snipes unless you win. And if nobody else bids, you get it at the starting price. (and remember, "Buy-It-Now" evaporates as soon as the first valid bid comes in)

There are lots of people who put in a single bid at a dollar over the opening price, in hopes that theirs will be the only bid. If not, forget about it, they are not going to participate in a bidding war.

So what if you are blown out of the water almost every time? You are not out anything.

Then, on the rare occasion that you make a good win at a cheap price, you can pat yourself on the back!

PS - I learned a lot about all of this several years ago when I sold quite a bit of rare vinyl on ebay. You learn a lot about selling by observing buyers, and vice versa.
« Last Edit: Tue, 12 February 2013, 15:56:51 by fohat.digs »
"However, even though I was born in the Mesozoic, I do know what anyone who wants to reach out to young people should say: Billionaires took your money. They took your chance to buy a home. They took your chance at a good education. They stole your opportunities. Billionaires took the things you want in life. If you really want those things, you have to take them back.
That's the message. That's the whole message. Say that every day, not just to reach America's frustrated young white men, but people of every age, race, and gender.
Late-stage capitalism is a wealth-concentration engine, focused on vacuuming up every dollar and putting it in as few hands as possible. Republicans are helping that vacuum suck.
How does a tiny fraction of the population get away with this? They do it by dividing the other 99% of Americans against themselves."
- Marc Sumner 2025-05-30