[IC] DSA two tone black on white/beige set

[hashbaz]

One other thought:  DSA retro was ABS double shot so everyone who wanted that type of caps has probably ordered them.  I think doing a DSA PBT dye-sub run has a better chance of getting more orders since it won't be just a change in colors. 

I don't think SP is doing regular orders in PBT 2-shots. (yet!)

[Moomoo]

In

[palindrome]

One thing that was really nice about the DSA retro set was the adaptability of the set choices.  That's crucial for me - I'm only doing custom layouts so if I can't get a full set of 1.5 width keys, I'm not interested.  DSA retro GB included:

- alpha set included home keys for qwerty, dvorak, and colemak and single width \ key (retro kit 1)
- modifiers set included 1.25 and 1.5 width ctrl, alpha, caps lock, 1.75 shift (retro kit 2 & 3)
- separate modifier kits for 1.0, 1.25, and 1.5 widths include all the keys you need in custom layouts like ergodox (alt, return, shift, backspace, etc) (retro kit 7, 8 and 9).
- blanks in various sizes (1, 1.5, 2 width) and colors

So I'd vote for just repeating the DSA retro kit group buy scheme with a change in colors.  Prices were reasonable and the flexibility means more people might be willing to buy in. 

^this^

Agreed. I'm in!

Add one more.

[Matt3o]

if you go ABS, trust me, WCK+GAW is a better combo! ( http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#WCK,NN,GAW,NN ) You can't really understand how the colors go together from the very badly calibrated pictures taken by SP.

[Elrick]

if you go ABS, trust me, WCK+GAW is a better combo! ( http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#WCK,NN,GAW,NN )

Yep, this is the one to go for.  Problem is finding someone who can pull this Group Buy off successfully with no problems or difficulties.

Plus someone people can trust 100% without question.

[y0fate]

I'm assuming these would be cherry only?

[Tarzan]

One thing that was really nice about the DSA retro set was the adaptability of the set choices.  That's crucial for me - I'm only doing custom layouts so if I can't get a full set of 1.5 width keys, I'm not interested.  DSA retro GB included:

- alpha set included home keys for qwerty, dvorak, and colemak and single width \ key (retro kit 1)
- modifiers set included 1.25 and 1.5 width ctrl, alpha, caps lock, 1.75 shift (retro kit 2 & 3)
- separate modifier kits for 1.0, 1.25, and 1.5 widths include all the keys you need in custom layouts like ergodox (alt, return, shift, backspace, etc) (retro kit 7, 8 and 9).
- blanks in various sizes (1, 1.5, 2 width) and colors

So I'd vote for just repeating the DSA retro kit group buy scheme with a change in colors.  Prices were reasonable and the flexibility means more people might be willing to buy in. 

^this^

Agreed. I'm in!

Add one more.

Ditto.  I'd be all over that.

[Matt3o]

I wish I had time to handle all these GBs

[TD22057]

I wish I had time to handle all these GBs

Well the retro buy went so well (and quickly), I'd say you should offer it as a service and charge 3-5% across the board for your time.  At least for me, I'd rather spend an extra $5 and have everything run smoothly and get orders out in a reasonable amount of time.

[Bullveyr]

I wish I had time to handle all these GBs

Me to

[phinix]

if you go ABS, trust me, WCK+GAW is a better combo! ( http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#WCK,NN,GAW,NN ) You can't really understand how the colors go together from the very badly calibrated pictures taken by SP.

One thing that was really nice about the DSA retro set was the adaptability of the set choices.  That's crucial for me - I'm only doing custom layouts so if I can't get a full set of 1.5 width keys, I'm not interested.  DSA retro GB included:

- alpha set included home keys for qwerty, dvorak, and colemak and single width \ key (retro kit 1)
- modifiers set included 1.25 and 1.5 width ctrl, alpha, caps lock, 1.75 shift (retro kit 2 & 3)
- separate modifier kits for 1.0, 1.25, and 1.5 widths include all the keys you need in custom layouts like ergodox (alt, return, shift, backspace, etc) (retro kit 7, 8 and 9).
- blanks in various sizes (1, 1.5, 2 width) and colors

So I'd vote for just repeating the DSA retro kit group buy scheme with a change in colors.  Prices were reasonable and the flexibility means more people might be willing to buy in. 

Yes, that is exactly what we would do - same kits, same everything, only this time diff colors and PBT.

if you go ABS, trust me, WCK+GAW is a better combo! ( http://lab.cubiq.org/kbcc/#WCK,NN,GAW,NN ) You can't really understand how the colors go together from the very badly calibrated pictures taken by SP.

Yep, it is hard to judge what those colors look like in real life.
WCK+GAW looks nice. It was my first choice. Look very retro, Amiga like keys:)

[Matt3o]

contact me if you go from IC to GB. I have quite a few suggestions for the kits based on my previous experience (especially to reduce sorting errors)

[phinix]

contact me if you go from IC to GB. I have quite a few suggestions for the kits based on my previous experience (especially to reduce sorting errors)

No problem, thanks. Unfortunately I won't have time to do this (full time job, external projects and family )
but hopefully someone will take this over so we could go GB.

[TD22057]

contact me if you go from IC to GB. I have quite a few suggestions for the kits based on my previous experience (especially to reduce sorting errors)

Matteo,
How much time do you think a GB like retro DSA takes to administer?

[Matt3o]

contact me if you go from IC to GB. I have quite a few suggestions for the kits based on my previous experience (especially to reduce sorting errors)

Matteo,
How much time do you think a GB like retro DSA takes to administer?

A LOT! Especially if you have 200+ orders from all over the world.

[pasph]

Only the Brave...

[phinix]

OK, so we established what we want - DSA PBT dye-sub key caps, color WCK+GAW, all same kits as Retro DSA GB we already had.

Now, who's gonna run it? Any volunteers?

[Matt3o]

there's a tiny problem. we don't have spacebars in PBT... spacebar would be ABS and I don't know if we can match the color.

[TD22057]

there's a tiny problem. we don't have spacebars in PBT... spacebar would be ABS and I don't know if we can match the color.

Only for those crazy enough to use full size spacebars

[tsangan]

there's a tiny problem. we don't have spacebars in PBT... spacebar would be ABS and I don't know if we can match the color.

OTD matched it pretty well when they made this set a few years back

http://www.otd.kr/bbs/board.php?bo_table=album&wr_id=149757

[Matt3o]

I'd like to see an image that is not completely yellowed

anyway would be nice to know which ABS color they picked

[phinix]

we can always ask SP to match color for ABS spaces

[Matt3o]

we can always ask SP to match color for ABS spaces

yes, that should be feasible but it takes a lot of time to get plastics (more than 1 month I think?!)

gonna ask SP about it. let's see what they say.

[mbc]

Very interested :-)

[ApocalypseMaow]

Some is someone gonna run this now? Matt3o?

[tsangan]

I'd like to see an image that is not completely yellowed

anyway would be nice to know which ABS color they picked

*Note: the stepped capslock with window I think is OTD mold so need permission before we can use it iirc




Source: OTD.kr

[Matt3o]

colors seem pretty close indeed.

we already had permission for the stepped key for DSA retro, hopefully that won't be an issue

[tsangan]

colors seem pretty close indeed.

we already had permission for the stepped key for DSA retro, hopefully that won't be an issue

Good to hear! I know of issues with other groups sadly

If we can get a windowed stepped caps in this buy also that would be great, though I know that might not be feasible

[Dubsgalore]

i know i expressed interest in the past about this, but i would be all down for 2 sets of blanks...saw this thread again and reminded me of how much i want them haha

[hoasican2004]

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Source: OTD.kr

great color, I'm very like it   :p   Do you have make Group buy ????

[Matt3o]

so it seems GMK can't do PBT. If I can't handle this from EU I believe I can't take care of the GB. Anyway I'm going to ask a quote for an ABS set from GMK just out of curiosity.

[AcidFire]

Even tho I'm buying way more sets than I have boards for, you've triggered the nostalgia for my Amega 500, count me in for a set!

[raKeto]

interested, but only DE- layout. Don't know if that's possible?!

[TD22057]

I am a little worried this one may not happen.  DSA Retro, now the DSA Dolch, not sure there is enough interest for another one.  I really hope I'm wrong of course...

[rowdy]

For some the color might be the deciding factor.

The brown of Retro did not appeal to me.

The recent Dolch almost did, but I think I would prefer a more traditional keycap shape for the Dolch solours.

This one ... maybe ...

[calavera]

goddamnit , I knew I shouldn't have come in here. damn pics are seducing me.

btw, how do you contact SP? emails? I asked for a quote for a set and never get replies back....fking EVER.

[rowdy]

You could try emailing, or some people just ring Melissa directly.

[Matt3o]

don't nuke Melissa with emails. we already know more or less what this is going to cost (look at dsa retro or dolch). what we are trying to solve here is: layout, materials, colors and logistics.

[hsu]

I'm interested in this.. Just don't know how to make a Leopold match it.

(I don't know much about paint/dye - are those color codes something universal or inside SP only? They could sell it )

[jonathanyu]

Interested !!   Will it work on filco ?

[ApocalypseMaow]

Interested !!   Will it work on filco ?

Yes! 

[bazemk1979]

if this DSA is going to be PBT dyesub, I guess the keycaps will be thinner than the DSA double shots right?

[wiredPANDA]

Interested

[longweight]

Interested if there is an Ergodox add on kit!

[czarek]

I will definitely buy it! Btw early Amiga keyboards (NMB Space Invader Linears, used in earlier version of A500 from the OP) had indeed PBT Dye Sub keycaps, even space bars being PBT, although they were not sphericals. I can borrow you actual caps if you want to get the color scheme absolutely right.

[phinix]

I will definitely buy it! Btw early Amiga keyboards (NMB Space Invader Linears, used in earlier version of A500 from the OP) had indeed PBT Dye Sub keycaps, even space bars being PBT, although they were not sphericals. I can borrow you actual caps if you want to get the color scheme absolutely right.

I didn't know that, thanks:) I had Amiga for a short period ages ago, but never thought to check the caps.
I'm sure DSA would look awesome on Amiga nowadays

P.S.
A co do pozyczenia tych klawiszy to niezly pomysl, tyle ze jeszcze nie wiemy kto zajmie sie tym GB;) Ja niestety nie mam na to czasu, jedynie stworzylem ten watek zeby podsycic pragnienie forumowiczow. Ja od dawna marze o prawdziwym retro zestawie a jeszcze w DSA to musi wygladac super...

[ImperfectLink]

I'd be interested as long as the numpad has a 00 for my Filco tenkey. Cream and grey would also be a nice scheme.

[aj-kun]

interested

[hsu]

Interested, but how you guys decide on the profile? Do you "feel" it matches?

[acantha]

i'm interested