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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16550 on: Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:17:48 »
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16551 on: Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:18:33 »
Whoever bid that Clack up is a meanie.  :(  I wanted to keep bidding in 50 cent increments...  :'(

That may have been me, testing to see where he put his reserve, its quite high.

lol, no worries, I'm just *****ing.  :P  It is a rather high reserve though...  :eek:  I guess you can get away with that with Clacks, huh.

Nope, still a douche move.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16552 on: Tue, 04 August 2015, 16:50:00 »
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16553 on: Tue, 04 August 2015, 18:36:30 »
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16554 on: Tue, 04 August 2015, 21:07:05 »
I'm headed to LA on Monday, so I emailed CC asking how I can help him. Will let you guys know if I hear back from him.
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16555 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 03:36:44 »
I'm headed to LA on Monday, so I emailed CC asking how I can help him. Will let you guys know if I hear back from him.
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16556 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 18:11:22 »
Warning to those buying clacks on eBay (if you care):

"I know a lot of people that are cloning keycap of CC and retaining the original logo, then sell it after market or at auction. This is those who suffer the most when I make and sell keycap clone, so you should be careful when buying keycap with original logo which is extremely easy to copy. Because the logo is not and will never be a sign to distinguish genuine products and clone products. After I said these thing, if you pay attention you will easily see them." - k3kc

http://roastpotatoes.github.io/interview/2015/08/05/k3kc-interview/

This should be moved to the fake clack thread btw, sorry.
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16557 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 18:20:05 »
What a joke... lulz.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16558 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 18:26:41 »
I NEVER LOST FAITH CLACKMAN!

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16559 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 18:45:05 »
What a joke... lulz.

Yup.


Also, why the **** would you interview K3?

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16560 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:00:43 »
What a joke... lulz.

Yup.


Also, why the **** would you interview K3?

I think it's interesting, and some of the questions were direct and well put.  I don't believe that writing about something/someone you disagree with or don't like is always promotion.  This interview didn't exactly paint a flattering picture.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16561 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:06:21 »
Warning to those buying clacks on eBay (if you care):

"I know a lot of people that are cloning keycap of CC and retaining the original logo, then sell it after market or at auction. This is those who suffer the most when I make and sell keycap clone, so you should be careful when buying keycap with original logo which is extremely easy to copy. Because the logo is not and will never be a sign to distinguish genuine products and clone products. After I said these thing, if you pay attention you will easily see them." - k3kc

http://roastpotatoes.github.io/interview/2015/08/05/k3kc-interview/

This should be moved to the fake clack thread btw, sorry.

I can't even understand what he's saying.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16562 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:22:18 »
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I think it's interesting, and some of the questions were direct and well put.  I don't believe that writing about something/someone you disagree with or don't like is always promotion.  This interview didn't exactly paint a flattering picture.

Interviewing him gives him legitimacy and attention, the last two things he needs.  Additionally, there is no commendation for the actions, merely a you decide waffling at the end.  It's like doing a serious interview with the Westboro Baptist Church abd staying, you knew, they do some bad things, but also make dine great points.  Maybe their points have done credence, but we'll let you decide.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16563 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:27:21 »
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I think it's interesting, and some of the questions were direct and well put.  I don't believe that writing about something/someone you disagree with or don't like is always promotion.  This interview didn't exactly paint a flattering picture.

Interviewing him gives him legitimacy and attention, the last two things he needs.  Additionally, there is no commendation for the actions, merely a you decide waffling at the end.  It's like doing a serious interview with the Westboro Baptist Church abd staying, you knew, they do some bad things, but also make dine great points.  Maybe their points have done credence, but we'll let you decide.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16564 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:28:42 »

Warning to those buying clacks on eBay (if you care):

"I know a lot of people that are cloning keycap of CC and retaining the original logo, then sell it after market or at auction. This is those who suffer the most when I make and sell keycap clone, so you should be careful when buying keycap with original logo which is extremely easy to copy. Because the logo is not and will never be a sign to distinguish genuine products and clone products. After I said these thing, if you pay attention you will easily see them." - k3kc

http://roastpotatoes.github.io/interview/2015/08/05/k3kc-interview/

This should be moved to the fake clack thread btw, sorry.

I can't even understand what he's saying.
Yeah, it is a trait that is needed to be picked up, wasn't easy at first.

And as far as why would he be interviewed @nubbinator, because it is neat to see what the thought process he has going into it is and why he thinks it is right to do so. I enjoyed reading it because it gives insight as to why he is doing it.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16565 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:38:45 »

Warning to those buying clacks on eBay (if you care):

"I know a lot of people that are cloning keycap of CC and retaining the original logo, then sell it after market or at auction. This is those who suffer the most when I make and sell keycap clone, so you should be careful when buying keycap with original logo which is extremely easy to copy. Because the logo is not and will never be a sign to distinguish genuine products and clone products. After I said these thing, if you pay attention you will easily see them." - k3kc

http://roastpotatoes.github.io/interview/2015/08/05/k3kc-interview/

This should be moved to the fake clack thread btw, sorry.

I can't even understand what he's saying.
Yeah, it is a trait that is needed to be picked up, wasn't easy at first.

And as far as why would he be interviewed @nubbinator, because it is neat to see what the thought process he has going into it is and why he thinks it is right to do so. I enjoyed reading it because it gives insight as to why he is doing it.

I thought we knew the reasons why before this interview took place?

I haven't even read the interview, but I just thought his intentions were made clear early on.

edit: eh, I guess you mean further reasoning actually

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16566 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:40:16 »


Warning to those buying clacks on eBay (if you care):

"I know a lot of people that are cloning keycap of CC and retaining the original logo, then sell it after market or at auction. This is those who suffer the most when I make and sell keycap clone, so you should be careful when buying keycap with original logo which is extremely easy to copy. Because the logo is not and will never be a sign to distinguish genuine products and clone products. After I said these thing, if you pay attention you will easily see them." - k3kc

http://roastpotatoes.github.io/interview/2015/08/05/k3kc-interview/

This should be moved to the fake clack thread btw, sorry.

I can't even understand what he's saying.
Yeah, it is a trait that is needed to be picked up, wasn't easy at first.

And as far as why would he be interviewed @nubbinator, because it is neat to see what the thought process he has going into it is and why he thinks it is right to do so. I enjoyed reading it because it gives insight as to why he is doing it.

I thought we knew the reasons why before this interview took place?

I haven't even read the interview, but I just thought his intentions were made clear early on.
Then how come you said you couldn't even understand what he was saying?

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16567 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:41:15 »


Warning to those buying clacks on eBay (if you care):

"I know a lot of people that are cloning keycap of CC and retaining the original logo, then sell it after market or at auction. This is those who suffer the most when I make and sell keycap clone, so you should be careful when buying keycap with original logo which is extremely easy to copy. Because the logo is not and will never be a sign to distinguish genuine products and clone products. After I said these thing, if you pay attention you will easily see them." - k3kc

http://roastpotatoes.github.io/interview/2015/08/05/k3kc-interview/

This should be moved to the fake clack thread btw, sorry.

I can't even understand what he's saying.
Yeah, it is a trait that is needed to be picked up, wasn't easy at first.

And as far as why would he be interviewed @nubbinator, because it is neat to see what the thought process he has going into it is and why he thinks it is right to do so. I enjoyed reading it because it gives insight as to why he is doing it.

I thought we knew the reasons why before this interview took place?

I haven't even read the interview, but I just thought his intentions were made clear early on.
Then how come you said you couldn't even understand what he was saying?

I read the copy and pasted paragraph from digi. I never read the full interview.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16568 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 19:56:33 »
And as far as why would he be interviewed @nubbinator, because it is neat to see what the thought process he has going into it is and why he thinks it is right to do so. I enjoyed reading it because it gives insight as to why he is doing it.
This was my motivation. I had also thought about this from an outsiders perspective. Someone who is not into the hobby. The fact that there is a keycap counterfitter could be considered interesting. Motivations of people are also interesting.
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I think it's interesting, and some of the questions were direct and well put.  I don't believe that writing about something/someone you disagree with or don't like is always promotion.  This interview didn't exactly paint a flattering picture.

Interviewing him gives him legitimacy and attention, the last two things he needs.  Additionally, there is no commendation for the actions, merely a you decide waffling at the end.  It's like doing a serious interview with the Westboro Baptist Church abd staying, you knew, they do some bad things, but also make dine great points.  Maybe their points have done credence, but we'll let you decide.
 
I don't think I should have concluded or commended anything. That's not really the point or what I wanted to do. Going in and painting him as an evil character was something I wanted to avoid. As I don't think that is how an interview should be conducted. Or at least how I wanted to conduct it.
I don't quite agree that this gives him legitimacy, but I can't deny it gives him exposure. Despite this, I don't see a huge spike in sales for the future.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16569 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:01:54 »
I used the wrong word (I blame my phone), I meant criticized.  I really feel that there's no other conclusion that what he's doing is wrong, that you can't really interview him and give him any kind of credence.  You can let him dig his own grave, but leaving a "you decide" mentality when there is clear international law stating that he is engaging in illegal activity is not an appropriate conclusion to me.

You can paint him as a human being while still showing that what he does is ethically and legally wrong.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16570 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:04:32 »
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In order to make a keycap (or figure), it requires 3 steps: shaping, molding and casting. Just few people can handle all three jobs. As far as I know, there is now only CC can do it.

Dude's never heard of Binge, Punks, etc?  And apparently Bro hasn't sculpted his own caps?  :rolleyes:

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16571 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:09:35 »
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In order to make a keycap (or figure), it requires 3 steps: shaping, molding and casting. Just few people can handle all three jobs. As far as I know, there is now only CC can do it.

Dude's never heard of Binge, Punks, etc?  And apparently Bro hasn't sculpted his own caps?  :rolleyes:

Aww, I don't get any love?

Also, I guess that's an admission that K3 can't shape caps, only mold and cast.  I think his "wolf" proved that.
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16572 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:12:38 »
I used the wrong word (I blame my phone), I meant criticized.  I really feel that there's no other conclusion that what he's doing is wrong, that you can't really interview him and give him any kind of credence.  You can let him dig his own grave, but leaving a "you decide" mentality when there is clear international law stating that he is engaging in illegal activity is not an appropriate conclusion to me.

You can paint him as a human being while still showing that what he does is ethically and legally wrong.
That makes sense. On the other hand I think the "you decide" send off is the only way to end it. If the conclusion is definitive then it should not matter. If you take a further step backwards my opinion shouldn't matter.
Overall I am ok with what I wrote. I think I could have quite possibly been naive entering, but the discussion that followed has been enlightening. Again, did this need to take place? Not really. There has been drama in the past I just thought K3 would be interesting to hear from.

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« Reply #16573 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:13:03 »
Nubbs, I hear you man, and I respect your strong feelings. But clear law doesn't really apply. International copyright issues are anything but clear and there's definitely some east/west friction mixed in here and how different places view IP both ethically and legally.

And there's no place where someone copying crafts is on the same level as a nationally designated hate group.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16574 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:15:16 »
At least he admits that he cannot design his own original keycaps, not that that excuses him from copying other people's designs.
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16575 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:20:26 »
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I used the wrong word (I blame my phone), I meant criticized.  I really feel that there's no other conclusion that what he's doing is wrong, that you can't really interview him and give him any kind of credence.  You can let him dig his own grave, but leaving a "you decide" mentality when there is clear international law stating that he is engaging in illegal activity is not an appropriate conclusion to me.

You can paint him as a human being while still showing that what he does is ethically and legally wrong.
That makes sense. On the other hand I think the "you decide" send off is the only way to end it. If the conclusion is definitive then it should not matter. If you take a further step backwards my opinion shouldn't matter.
Overall I am ok with what I wrote. I think I could have quite possibly been naive entering, but the discussion that followed has been enlightening. Again, did this need to take place? Not really. There has been drama in the past I just thought K3 would be interesting to hear from.

And that's the kind of thing that the Gawker network focuses on.  It's not what good news outlets should focus on.  There are plenty of interesting projects out there, we don't need drama being brought back up.


Nubbs, I hear you man, and I respect your strong feelings. But clear law doesn't really apply. International copyright issues are anything but clear and there's definitely some east/west friction mixed in here and how different places view IP both ethically and legally.

And there's no place where someone copying crafts is on the same level as a nationally designated hate group.

Alright, then how about this, it's like allowing Nike and Apple to have an interview about their shops that have had human rights violations, but saying that it's not illegal in that country and that, hey, it gets you cheap goods, so you decide if it's right or wrong.


International IP law is pretty clear on the issue.  If you want to go further though, you can ignore the fact that he sells domestically and look at the fact that he's selling and shipping to states with reciprocity with the US.  He is violating the IP and copyright laws in those countries even if he is not doing so in his home state.  There is no circumventing that it is illegal and unethical.  Those international laws are part of why he no longer makes Bros.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16576 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:22:53 »
Anyway, shouldn't all this K3 discussion go in the fake clack thread?
"Because keyboards are accessories to PC makers, they focus on minimizing the manufacturing costs. But that’s incorrect. It’s in HHKB’s slogan, but when America’s cowboys were in the middle of a trip and their horse died, they would leave the horse there. But even if they were in the middle of a desert, they would take their saddle with them. The horse was a consumable good, but the saddle was an interface that their bodies had gotten used to. In the same vein, PCs are consumable goods, while keyboards are important interfaces." - Eiiti Wada

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16577 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:41:58 »
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In order to make a keycap (or figure), it requires 3 steps: shaping, molding and casting. Just few people can handle all three jobs. As far as I know, there is now only CC can do it.

Dude's never heard of Binge, Punks, etc?  And apparently Bro hasn't sculpted his own caps?  :rolleyes:

Aww, I don't get any love?

Yes, of course.  It was a rather short list and someone was bound to be excluded.   :-[

You're the little "etc" there at the end.   :-*

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16578 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:46:36 »
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In order to make a keycap (or figure), it requires 3 steps: shaping, molding and casting. Just few people can handle all three jobs. As far as I know, there is now only CC can do it.

Dude's never heard of Binge, Punks, etc?  And apparently Bro hasn't sculpted his own caps?  :rolleyes:

Aww, I don't get any love?

Yes, of course.  It was a rather short list and someone was bound to be excluded.   :-[

You're the little "etc" there at the end.   :-*

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16579 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 20:49:28 »
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In order to make a keycap (or figure), it requires 3 steps: shaping, molding and casting. Just few people can handle all three jobs. As far as I know, there is now only CC can do it.

Dude's never heard of Binge, Punks, etc?  And apparently Bro hasn't sculpted his own caps?  :rolleyes:

Aww, I don't get any love?

Yes, of course.  It was a rather short list and someone was bound to be excluded.   :-[

You're the little "etc" there at the end.   :-*

No Dolly V2 for you.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16580 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 21:23:28 »

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In order to make a keycap (or figure), it requires 3 steps: shaping, molding and casting. Just few people can handle all three jobs. As far as I know, there is now only CC can do it.

Dude's never heard of Binge, Punks, etc?  And apparently Bro hasn't sculpted his own caps?  :rolleyes:

Aww, I don't get any love?

Yes, of course.  It was a rather short list and someone was bound to be excluded.   :-[

You're the little "etc" there at the end.   :-*

No Dolly V2 for you.

 :'( :'( :'(

But I <3 Dolly

Then why don't you marry her!

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16581 on: Wed, 05 August 2015, 23:21:01 »


I used the wrong word (I blame my phone), I meant criticized.  I really feel that there's no other conclusion that what he's doing is wrong, that you can't really interview him and give him any kind of credence.  You can let him dig his own grave, but leaving a "you decide" mentality when there is clear international law stating that he is engaging in illegal activity is not an appropriate conclusion to me.

You can paint him as a human being while still showing that what he does is ethically and legally wrong.
That makes sense. On the other hand I think the "you decide" send off is the only way to end it. If the conclusion is definitive then it should not matter. If you take a further step backwards my opinion shouldn't matter.
Overall I am ok with what I wrote. I think I could have quite possibly been naive entering, but the discussion that followed has been enlightening. Again, did this need to take place? Not really. There has been drama in the past I just thought K3 would be interesting to hear from.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16582 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 03:01:47 »
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In order to make a keycap (or figure), it requires 3 steps: shaping, molding and casting. Just few people can handle all three jobs. As far as I know, there is now only CC can do it.

Dude's never heard of Binge, Punks, etc?  And apparently Bro hasn't sculpted his own caps?  :rolleyes:

Aww, I don't get any love?

Yes, of course.  It was a rather short list and someone was bound to be excluded.   :-[

You're the little "etc" there at the end.   :-*

No Dolly V2 for you.
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16583 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 07:42:11 »
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I think it's interesting, and some of the questions were direct and well put.  I don't believe that writing about something/someone you disagree with or don't like is always promotion.  This interview didn't exactly paint a flattering picture.

Interviewing him gives him legitimacy and attention, the last two things he needs.  Additionally, there is no commendation for the actions, merely a you decide waffling at the end.  It's like doing a serious interview with the Westboro Baptist Church abd staying, you knew, they do some bad things, but also make dine great points.  Maybe their points have done credence, but we'll let you decide.

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I used the wrong word (I blame my phone), I meant criticized.  I really feel that there's no other conclusion that what he's doing is wrong, that you can't really interview him and give him any kind of credence.  You can let him dig his own grave, but leaving a "you decide" mentality when there is clear international law stating that he is engaging in illegal activity is not an appropriate conclusion to me.

You can paint him as a human being while still showing that what he does is ethically and legally wrong.
That makes sense. On the other hand I think the "you decide" send off is the only way to end it. If the conclusion is definitive then it should not matter. If you take a further step backwards my opinion shouldn't matter.

Except you took a stance by not taking a stance. You gave (intentionally or not) the possibility that he might be doing a good thing, when he openly admits to making money from copies of other peoples work.
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16584 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 07:59:30 »
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I think it's interesting, and some of the questions were direct and well put.  I don't believe that writing about something/someone you disagree with or don't like is always promotion.  This interview didn't exactly paint a flattering picture.

Interviewing him gives him legitimacy and attention, the last two things he needs.  Additionally, there is no commendation for the actions, merely a you decide waffling at the end.  It's like doing a serious interview with the Westboro Baptist Church abd staying, you knew, they do some bad things, but also make dine great points.  Maybe their points have done credence, but we'll let you decide.

Jesus just doesn't like gays, there hands are tied!
I used the wrong word (I blame my phone), I meant criticized.  I really feel that there's no other conclusion that what he's doing is wrong, that you can't really interview him and give him any kind of credence.  You can let him dig his own grave, but leaving a "you decide" mentality when there is clear international law stating that he is engaging in illegal activity is not an appropriate conclusion to me.

You can paint him as a human being while still showing that what he does is ethically and legally wrong.
That makes sense. On the other hand I think the "you decide" send off is the only way to end it. If the conclusion is definitive then it should not matter. If you take a further step backwards my opinion shouldn't matter.

Except you took a stance by not taking a stance. You gave (intentionally or not) the possibility that he might be doing a good thing, when he openly admits to making money from copies of other peoples work.
I think that's ok.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16585 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 08:11:05 »
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I think it's interesting, and some of the questions were direct and well put.  I don't believe that writing about something/someone you disagree with or don't like is always promotion.  This interview didn't exactly paint a flattering picture.

Interviewing him gives him legitimacy and attention, the last two things he needs.  Additionally, there is no commendation for the actions, merely a you decide waffling at the end.  It's like doing a serious interview with the Westboro Baptist Church abd staying, you knew, they do some bad things, but also make dine great points.  Maybe their points have done credence, but we'll let you decide.

Jesus just doesn't like gays, there hands are tied!
I used the wrong word (I blame my phone), I meant criticized.  I really feel that there's no other conclusion that what he's doing is wrong, that you can't really interview him and give him any kind of credence.  You can let him dig his own grave, but leaving a "you decide" mentality when there is clear international law stating that he is engaging in illegal activity is not an appropriate conclusion to me.

You can paint him as a human being while still showing that what he does is ethically and legally wrong.
That makes sense. On the other hand I think the "you decide" send off is the only way to end it. If the conclusion is definitive then it should not matter. If you take a further step backwards my opinion shouldn't matter.

Except you took a stance by not taking a stance. You gave (intentionally or not) the possibility that he might be doing a good thing, when he openly admits to making money from copies of other peoples work.
I think that's ok.

Well I guess, Gawker awaits! ..unless your aiming for the holy grail of journalism that is the Daily Mail...



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Re: Clack Therapy
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16587 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 11:25:40 »
Been a week since our digi gnome 33 update, anyone hear anything new since then? Moving apartments at the end of the month, which is where I updated my shipping address to (fortunately I can forward packages this time), so crossing my fingers packages finally start moving before then.

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16588 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 11:51:07 »
Ok I emails cc and heard back from him. He's doing a little better and appreciates the support, but things are still hard. He and Gnome33 have been sorting and prepping, shipping starts this week.

I'll post more from his email later cause I'm on mobile right now. 
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16589 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 11:53:34 »
Ok I emails cc and heard back from him. He's doing a little better and appreciates the support, but things are still hard. He and Gnome33 have been sorting and prepping, shipping starts this week.

I'll post more from his email later cause I'm on mobile right now. 

Nice! That's good news =)

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« Reply #16590 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 11:55:02 »
Ok I emails cc and heard back from him. He's doing a little better and appreciates the support, but things are still hard. He and Gnome33 have been sorting and prepping, shipping starts this week.

I'll post more from his email later cause I'm on mobile right now.

The fact that hes actually replying emails is a good thing.  ;D Looking forward for this week

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16591 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 12:05:09 »
this is good news, especially considering i never escalated my disputes within the time allotted.

hope cc pulls through...
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16592 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 12:13:13 »
Well if he and Gnome33 are doing the work, and not just his Gnome, sounds like he's doing a lot better than before.

Glad to hear he's responsive.

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« Reply #16593 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 12:22:17 »
Good to hear he has responded to someone, I got nothing since the gnome 33 email hopefully we start getting things shipped then.
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« Reply #16594 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 12:30:08 »
Well happy to see things seem to be getting better.  :)

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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16595 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 12:37:22 »
OK here's the relevant bit from his email:
"...Gnome33 is helping out (but it was much harder than G33 was expecting I think). Every order is accounted for now and G33 is going to continue helping with packaging and shipping. Things will start going out this week. I will get these out, I never had a doubt, I just had insanely unfortunate obstacles"....."for the next couple of weeks I will just be focusing on getting these out with help from G33 every chance I feel well and able enough to do it."

If you pray, please pray for him.  He's had so many hardships recently, but obviously is still keeping to his commitments.  As someone who deals with a chronic condition myself, I know how hard it can be and how oppressive the guilt is for things you committed to but can't do.

So let's try to be a little more hopeful on cc's behalf.  Maybe when he gets well enough he'll even come back here to hang out like the old days. :D
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« Reply #16596 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 12:53:36 »
OK here's the relevant bit from his email:
"...Gnome33 is helping out (but it was much harder than G33 was expecting I think). Every order is accounted for now and G33 is going to continue helping with packaging and shipping. Things will start going out this week. I will get these out, I never had a doubt, I just had insanely unfortunate obstacles"....."for the next couple of weeks I will just be focusing on getting these out with help from G33 every chance I feel well and able enough to do it."

If you pray, please pray for him.  He's had so many hardships recently, but obviously is still keeping to his commitments.  As someone who deals with a chronic condition myself, I know how hard it can be and how oppressive the guilt is for things you committed to but can't do.

So let's try to be a little more hopeful on cc's behalf.  Maybe when he gets well enough he'll even come back here to hang out like the old days. :D

Thanks for sharing that with us. :thumb:

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« Reply #16597 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 13:06:14 »
OK here's the relevant bit from his email:
"...Gnome33 is helping out (but it was much harder than G33 was expecting I think). Every order is accounted for now and G33 is going to continue helping with packaging and shipping. Things will start going out this week. I will get these out, I never had a doubt, I just had insanely unfortunate obstacles"....."for the next couple of weeks I will just be focusing on getting these out with help from G33 every chance I feel well and able enough to do it."

If you pray, please pray for him.  He's had so many hardships recently, but obviously is still keeping to his commitments.  As someone who deals with a chronic condition myself, I know how hard it can be and how oppressive the guilt is for things you committed to but can't do.

So let's try to be a little more hopeful on cc's behalf.  Maybe when he gets well enough he'll even come back here to hang out like the old days. :D
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16598 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 18:21:09 »
OK here's the relevant bit from his email:
"...Gnome33 is helping out (but it was much harder than G33 was expecting I think). Every order is accounted for now and G33 is going to continue helping with packaging and shipping. Things will start going out this week. I will get these out, I never had a doubt, I just had insanely unfortunate obstacles"....."for the next couple of weeks I will just be focusing on getting these out with help from G33 every chance I feel well and able enough to do it."

If you pray, please pray for him.  He's had so many hardships recently, but obviously is still keeping to his commitments.  As someone who deals with a chronic condition myself, I know how hard it can be and how oppressive the guilt is for things you committed to but can't do.

So let's try to be a little more hopeful on cc's behalf.  Maybe when he gets well enough he'll even come back here to hang out like the old days. :D

Great to hear CC is better enough to respond himself, this week is nearly over so I guess we'll be seeing activity in "Post your Clacks" rather than here soon which will be a pleasant change!  Will be nice to finally "meet" the guy who had so many of us glued to our screens for weeks on end when this is over, I'm sure he'll be back to feed off our happiness at finally getting our awesome caps once they're all sent out :)

I wonder who Gnome33 is though?  From the e-mail they're willing and able to help whenever CC is up to it, yet can't have much experience if they think this is hard.  As sales go this should be quite an easy one as there aren't even specific items per order, just a bucket of $50 and $65 caps and a couple of little piles of higher values...  Thanks Gnome33, whoever you may be!
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Re: Clack Therapy
« Reply #16599 on: Thu, 06 August 2015, 18:21:10 »
OK here's the relevant bit from his email:
"...Gnome33 is helping out (but it was much harder than G33 was expecting I think). Every order is accounted for now and G33 is going to continue helping with packaging and shipping. Things will start going out this week. I will get these out, I never had a doubt, I just had insanely unfortunate obstacles"....."for the next couple of weeks I will just be focusing on getting these out with help from G33 every chance I feel well and able enough to do it."

If you pray, please pray for him.  He's had so many hardships recently, but obviously is still keeping to his commitments.  As someone who deals with a chronic condition myself, I know how hard it can be and how oppressive the guilt is for things you committed to but can't do.

So let's try to be a little more hopeful on cc's behalf.  Maybe when he gets well enough he'll even come back here to hang out like the old days. :D
yay.. It's a great update! Thanks for sharing, heed. I am counting my blessings he has G33 to help sort it out!