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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #200 on: Sat, 14 September 2013, 08:38:32 »
Maybe I can't see it, but what is the point of keeping the GH60 mounts points? The PCB is much to fit the Poker in any case.

If you do want to make it somewhat compatible, then keep the mount points so that the 40% PCB centers on the GH60 PCB?

I'd say the mounting holes are being added just in "case." :P

I know the MOQ is probably ridiculous, but one day maybe there could be a reduced size, Poker-style injection molded plastic tray case for it. Which would have mounting standoffs, of course. And then we would be glad the mounting holes were there.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #201 on: Sat, 14 September 2013, 08:40:54 »
Maybe I can't see it, but what is the point of keeping the GH60 mounts points? The PCB is much to fit the Poker in any case.

If you do want to make it somewhat compatible, then keep the mount points so that the 40% PCB centers on the GH60 PCB?

I'd say the mounting holes are being added just in "case." :P

I know the MOQ is probably ridiculous, but one day maybe there could be a reduced size, Poker-style injection molded plastic tray case for it. Which would have mounting standoffs, of course. And then we would be glad the mounting holes were there.

Maybe me point was not clear, what I meant was, why in the exact same places as the GH60?

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #202 on: Sat, 14 September 2013, 08:45:42 »
Maybe I can't see it, but what is the point of keeping the GH60 mounts points? The PCB is much to fit the Poker in any case.

If you do want to make it somewhat compatible, then keep the mount points so that the 40% PCB centers on the GH60 PCB?

I'd say the mounting holes are being added just in "case." :P

I know the MOQ is probably ridiculous, but one day maybe there could be a reduced size, Poker-style injection molded plastic tray case for it. Which would have mounting standoffs, of course. And then we would be glad the mounting holes were there.

Maybe me point was not clear, what I meant was, why in the exact same places as the GH60?

Oh, well maybe I was confusing when I suggested they be in the same relative positions. I just meant maybe there could be a slot hole on each side between the bottom row and the ZXCV row. And between tab and A. And under the enter key. And maybe one between a couple of keys in the center. That's all. :)
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #203 on: Sat, 14 September 2013, 08:47:57 »
Ahh, now I understand.

As for case, I don't know if there would be aa injection molded plastic case for it, however, there will be an acrylic case for it :D

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #204 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 00:00:50 »
jdcarpe, you are ridiculously / insanely cool at this keyboard thing. okbye.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #205 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 03:06:15 »
jdcarpe, you are ridiculously / insanely cool at this keyboard thing. okbye.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #206 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 19:54:30 »
Further along, moved mounting holes, need to sanity check and post files to github...





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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #207 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 20:19:00 »
Further along, moved mounting holes, need to sanity check and post files to github...

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #208 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 20:22:41 »
For the third row from the top I would suggest supporting 1+1.25, besides the 1.25+1 on the right shift.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #209 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 21:24:06 »
For the third row from the top I would suggest supporting 1+1.25, besides the 1.25+1 on the right shift.

Yeah, if it's possible to add support for this, that would be nice.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #210 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 21:33:54 »
Looking really good you two.  I really need to see the map of the Fn layer.  Where is that?

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #211 on: Tue, 17 September 2013, 22:08:49 »
Looking really good you two.  I really need to see the map of the Fn layer.  Where is that?

Something like this:

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #212 on: Thu, 19 September 2013, 22:44:09 »
Now I want one even though it won't support dvorak.

The only change I'd consider for the function layer is to make the arrowkeys
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Which makes more sense to me than what you have
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Also, where is the , key? I know . is on the main area
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #213 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 00:22:49 »
This looks great.  I'm looking forward to seeing a nate set on one of these.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #214 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 13:06:58 »
I'm not sure why the slotted holes don't render properly.



- Added option for 1.25+1.0 or 1.0+1.25 for the right-shift
- LEDs for the 1.0+1.25 arrangement are 'flipped' so they share a common anode (with the regular layout).
- Added back missing slot on right right side

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #215 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 13:21:28 »
I'm not sure why the slotted holes don't render properly.

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- Added option for 1.25+1.0 or 1.0+1.25 for the right-shift
- LEDs for the 1.0+1.25 arrangement are 'flipped' so they share a common anode (with the regular layout).
- Added back missing slot on right right side

Beautiful as ever. This is the one with the integrated SMD components, right?

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #216 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 13:40:33 »
I'm not sure why the slotted holes don't render properly.

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- Added option for 1.25+1.0 or 1.0+1.25 for the right-shift
- LEDs for the 1.0+1.25 arrangement are 'flipped' so they share a common anode (with the regular layout).
- Added back missing slot on right right side

Beautiful as ever. This is the one with the integrated SMD components, right?

Yes, same components as the keypad, so we're kind of prototyping this one with that...

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #217 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 13:44:11 »
I'm not sure why the slotted holes don't render properly.

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- Added option for 1.25+1.0 or 1.0+1.25 for the right-shift
- LEDs for the 1.0+1.25 arrangement are 'flipped' so they share a common anode (with the regular layout).
- Added back missing slot on right right side

Beautiful as ever. This is the one with the integrated SMD components, right?

Yes, same components as the keypad, so we're kind of prototyping this one with that...

We are? I got to get a case ready then! When did this happen? Noone told me! ><

Anywho, I am in, please, please, please!

We can save some dough maybe by getting components for both of these together and also save on shipping if you guys want me to do the case. Should have told me earlier and we would have saved on those nuts/bolts. Oh well.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #218 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 13:46:14 »
I'm not sure why the slotted holes don't render properly.

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- Added option for 1.25+1.0 or 1.0+1.25 for the right-shift
- LEDs for the 1.0+1.25 arrangement are 'flipped' so they share a common anode (with the regular layout).
- Added back missing slot on right right side

Beautiful as ever. This is the one with the integrated SMD components, right?

Yes, same components as the keypad, so we're kind of prototyping this one with that...

We are? I got to get a case ready then! When did this happen? Noone told me! ><

Anywho, I am in, please, please, please!

We can save some dough maybe by getting components for both of these together and also save on shipping if you guys want me to do the case. Should have told me earlier and we would have saved on those nuts/bolts. Oh well.

Moz I think he meant the keypad prototype is also a test for the ideas/design/parts to be used in the 40% board

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #219 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 13:57:56 »
Moz I think he meant the keypad prototype is also a test for the ideas/design/parts to be used in the 40% board

In other words, I got over-excited?

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« Reply #220 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 14:01:05 »
Moz I think he meant the keypad prototype is also a test for the ideas/design/parts to be used in the 40% board

In other words, I got over-excited?

I believe so.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #221 on: Fri, 20 September 2013, 23:03:08 »
I'm not sure why the slotted holes don't render properly.

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- Added option for 1.25+1.0 or 1.0+1.25 for the right-shift
- LEDs for the 1.0+1.25 arrangement are 'flipped' so they share a common anode (with the regular layout).
- Added back missing slot on right right side

The PCB...she is beautiful.
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« Reply #222 on: Fri, 11 October 2013, 18:24:34 »
I've been watching this for awhile, anything required to help with beta testing?
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #223 on: Fri, 11 October 2013, 18:28:48 »
We just need to get the SMT PCB design completed. I think regack is probably just busy. Once the design is finished, I will look into getting a few PCBs made for testing, before opening up group buy ordering.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #224 on: Fri, 11 October 2013, 22:28:39 »
Thanks for the update! Keep up the great work guys!

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #225 on: Sat, 12 October 2013, 00:25:00 »
Last I discussed this with regack be was finalising the SMT and looking to add extendability features.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #226 on: Wed, 16 October 2013, 16:11:11 »
Update...
  • pulled extra pin for ROW5 from ATMEGA pin 8/PB0
  • added GPIO4, GPIO5, GPIO6 connectors to ATMEGA pins 26/PD6, 22/PD5, 11/PB3
  • ran ROW and GPIO connections to 1.27mm header pins on right-side of board for interconnect


So, with all those extra io connections, you should still be able to keep the CAPS/FN LED as well as the WASD LEDs and still have room to add a 4x6 keypad run from the same firmware... though someone would have to write that firmware.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #227 on: Wed, 16 October 2013, 16:13:12 »
Update...
  • pulled extra pin for ROW5 from ATMEGA pin 8/PB0
  • added GPIO4, GPIO5, GPIO6 connectors to ATMEGA pins 26/PD6, 22/PD5, 11/PB3
  • ran ROW and GPIO connections to 1.27mm header pins on right-side of board for interconnect
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So, with all those extra io connections, you should still be able to keep the CAPS/FN LED as well as the WASD LEDs and still have room to add a 4x6 keypad run from the same firmware... though someone would have to write that firmware.

Very awesome, regack! Thank you for the major update!!
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #228 on: Wed, 16 October 2013, 16:25:59 »
Update...
  • pulled extra pin for ROW5 from ATMEGA pin 8/PB0
  • added GPIO4, GPIO5, GPIO6 connectors to ATMEGA pins 26/PD6, 22/PD5, 11/PB3
  • ran ROW and GPIO connections to 1.27mm header pins on right-side of board for interconnect
Show Image


So, with all those extra io connections, you should still be able to keep the CAPS/FN LED as well as the WASD LEDs and still have room to add a 4x6 keypad run from the same firmware... though someone would have to write that firmware.

Great work ;)

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #229 on: Wed, 16 October 2013, 23:23:06 »
Nice looking PCB!  Can't wait for the group buy :)

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« Reply #230 on: Thu, 17 October 2013, 00:17:30 »
I love this board!
It's just a shame I probably wouldn't be able to use such a small kb...
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #231 on: Thu, 17 October 2013, 05:07:42 »
Yeah, all the controller components and usb connector are on the other side

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« Reply #232 on: Thu, 17 October 2013, 05:53:58 »
i will literally sell my soul to get my hands on one of these
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« Reply #233 on: Sun, 20 October 2013, 19:22:50 »
After thinking about it, I would totally get one. This+Ghpad=all I need

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« Reply #234 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 10:34:59 »
I am in for at least a pair when this gets to the point that we can start  a GB for a kit version. I'm So Excited I Can Barely Contain Myself :D
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« Reply #235 on: Mon, 21 October 2013, 17:46:51 »
Didn't realize there was going to be a group buy for this.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #236 on: Wed, 23 October 2013, 00:22:48 »
Update...
  • pulled extra pin for ROW5 from ATMEGA pin 8/PB0
  • added GPIO4, GPIO5, GPIO6 connectors to ATMEGA pins 26/PD6, 22/PD5, 11/PB3
  • ran ROW and GPIO connections to 1.27mm header pins on right-side of board for interconnect
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So, with all those extra io connections, you should still be able to keep the CAPS/FN LED as well as the WASD LEDs and still have room to add a 4x6 keypad run from the same firmware... though someone would have to write that firmware.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #237 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 09:07:41 »
Okay, so I know this is not even near group buy status yet, but I do want to recommend something to everyone who is interested in getting one (eventually). As you probably know by now, 7bit is running Doubleshot Replacements Round 5 (Honeywell) at Deskthority. These are SA-profile (thick) double shot ABS keycaps from Signature Plastics.

He has included (at snoopy's suggestion) a kit specifically designed for this layout. To order the keycaps for this 40% keyboard, you would need to order:

HONEY/FORTY
HONEY/SPACE625

Big thanks to 7bit for including this set in his group buy!! :thumb:

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/doubleshot-replacements-round-5-honey-sphericals-t6732.html
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #238 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 09:26:11 »
Thanks for the heads up jd! I just added the set to my order.

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« Reply #239 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 09:29:34 »
This is the cutest keyboard ever. Now my 60% looks fat and stupid.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #240 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 09:36:05 »
Special thanks to snoopy and 7bit.

Jdcarpe, can you post the keycaps needed specifically for the 40%, and add that info to the OP. I'd like them to be added to every future GB.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #241 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 09:37:32 »
Okay, so I know this is not even near group buy status yet, but I do want to recommend something to everyone who is interested in getting one (eventually). As you probably know by now, 7bit is running Doubleshot Replacements Round 5 (Honeywell) at Deskthority. These are SA-profile (thick) double shot ABS keycaps from Signature Plastics.

He has included (at snoopy's suggestion) a kit specifically designed for this layout. To order the keycaps for this 40% keyboard, you would need to order:

HONEY/FORTY
HONEY/SPACE625

Big thanks to 7bit for including this set in his group buy!! :thumb:

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/doubleshot-replacements-round-5-honey-sphericals-t6732.html

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« Reply #242 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 09:41:47 »
Special thanks to snoopy and 7bit.

Jdcarpe, can you post the keycaps needed specifically for the 40%, and add that info to the OP. I'd like them to be added to every future GB.

Sure.

Row 2: 1u Esc, 1u Del or Backspace
Row 3: 1.25u Tab, 1.75u Return or Enter
Row 4: 1.75u Shift, 1.25u Shift, 1u Fn
Row 4 (SA Row 3): 1.25u Ctrl, 1u Win or Del, 1u Alt; optional layout: 1.25u >., 1.25u ?/
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #243 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 09:56:12 »
Now I really can't wait until this happens :D

I think it will look really good with the honeywell keys.  :cool:

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #244 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 09:56:52 »
Okay, so I know this is not even near group buy status yet, but I do want to recommend something to everyone who is interested in getting one (eventually). As you probably know by now, 7bit is running Doubleshot Replacements Round 5 (Honeywell) at Deskthority. These are SA-profile (thick) double shot ABS keycaps from Signature Plastics.

He has included (at snoopy's suggestion) a kit specifically designed for this layout. To order the keycaps for this 40% keyboard, you would need to order:

HONEY/FORTY
HONEY/SPACE625

Big thanks to 7bit for including this set in his group buy!! :thumb:

http://deskthority.net/marketplace-f11/doubleshot-replacements-round-5-honey-sphericals-t6732.html

Now I know I need this kit.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #245 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 09:57:31 »
Forgot the 1u R2 Esc.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #246 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 10:05:01 »
Forgot the 1u R2 Esc.

Fixed, thank you.
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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #247 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 10:12:15 »
Let's dub this the 40%/SmallFry kit.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #248 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 11:54:54 »
Let's dub this the 40%/SmallFry kit.

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Re: The SmallFry KB, AKA jdcarpe loves 40%
« Reply #249 on: Mon, 28 October 2013, 12:03:54 »
Let's dub this the 40%/SmallFry kit.

7bit cares not for the affairs of GHers.

I think MOZ was referring to the add-on kit for this 40%/SmallFry keyboard, a la tsangan and moogle kits.

And 7bit seems to care somewhat, as he monitors things here. He's just not active in discussions.
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