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Offline tbc

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 00:45:02 »
BSP is like the GMK of PBT right?

how exactly do they differ from imsto?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 02:20:10 »
I am not here to pick any fights.  Originative will come out with nearly the same style keycaps in 2 weeks.  The idea is the same, black on black like the Realforce.  I am not saying you copied ours, but please know that we are not copying yours.  Get ready for Black Friday. :)

Thanks for being transparent about this! I assume your set will be a little more expensive than the set Ivan is offering?

This basically means interest will be split between people who want it fast and people who want it as cheap as possible. This might make it even harder for this GB to reach a MOQ of 400. Of course this isn't your nor Ivan's fault.

@ Ivan

Since this is done via IMSTO again: Is there a possibility to fix the capslock issue from last round? In a perfect world I want a matching key for every design we ordered, but I would also be content with a generic capslock key with black legends or a blank one.

Can you please check what possibilities there are? Thanks! I feel IMSTO owes us something since he didn't deliver what we actually ordered and paid for...

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 02:53:01 »
Since this is done via IMSTO again: Is there a possibility to fix the capslock issue from last round? In a perfect world I want a matching key for every design we ordered, but I would also be content with a generic capslock key with black legends or a blank one.

Can you please check what possibilities there are? Thanks! I feel IMSTO owes us something since he didn't deliver what we actually ordered and paid for...

Not to speak for Ivan, but I'm fairly certain a same color stepped and non-stepped caps lock is attainable for blank sets. For example, just looking at the blank white/grey/blue sets everything is consistent. In terms of what I'm assuming will be dark charcoal with black legends, the stepped and non-stepped caplocks should be the consistent as well. Judging by the dyesubbed sets that have been made so far, when the base keycap color is all the same, there are no problems. When it's the white/beige two tone colorway, that's when things get iffy like the factory is too lazy to produce a beige non-stepped caplocks because they have to set up the machines all over again (just my theory).

On another note in terms of MOQ, I believe the 400 can be reached. We're not taking about GMK packs/combinations we have to piece together that will total over $100 easily (Not to hate because I love GMK goodness). Each set is under $100 and contains everything a person needs to fill their keyboards. My guess is, many may come out of lurking and newer members won't have to hesitate to participate in this; they're simple black keycaps. They won't have to worry about if whether or not they got the correct language set or question if the set will come with a spacebar. It's all there :thumb:

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 03:13:32 »
can we get legend like the GMK Dolch on Windows and menu key ?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 04:02:01 »
Thank you, Ivan! This is awesome! BLANK BLACK THICK PBT!!!!!  :D  :thumb:  :thumb:

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 04:06:16 »
Any chance of having 4 more top row blanks?

+1 would love 4 extra blank keys for my ducky

I would also be interested in some keys from the blank set to get extra keys for ISO. I guess we could split a set accordingly :)

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 04:23:18 »
If MOQ is 400 then why not go with BSP? If it is because they don't have 1.25 mods or something weird then just get those from imsto and everything else from BSP.

Is BSP  better?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 05:08:37 »
If MOQ is 400 then why not go with BSP? If it is because they don't have 1.25 mods or something weird then just get those from imsto and everything else from BSP.

Is BSP  better?

BSP has 1.5x mods so one who use 86/84 layout will want to stick with BSP
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 08:37:40 »
4 extra top row keys add $4 to the set price.

Someday I might try ordering with BSP but they lack keys most people want/need for average keyboard and are a lot more expensive.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 08:43:44 »
Any possibility of getting a sample of the black color that will be used for the caps?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #60 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 08:48:37 »
I've asked for sample key black on black dyesub to make sure it will look good. I don't know when/if I will have it yet.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #61 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 10:27:36 »
Interesting. Will have to wait to see Originative's offering though.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #62 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 13:37:09 »
At least the group buy close on January 15th, so you'll have plenty of time to think.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #63 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 15:13:32 »
hmm... more $$ than I thought it would be, gonna think about it some more.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 15:37:21 »
Same groupbuy price as always for these Cherry thick PBT sets. Outside the groupbuy they are usually like $90.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #65 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 17:22:50 »
I'll probably pick up two blank sets and a printed set. I'd like to see that sample key for the printed if we could.

I'll put my order in tonight. [if we're each buying a printed a non printed it's only 200 :P]

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #66 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 17:44:22 »
i will like to ask, If you can do a set that have Silver legends ? in color Silver, not white ?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #67 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 18:26:19 »
T_T

Ivan stop with the awesome GBs

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #68 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 19:39:48 »
These will fit perfect on poker 2 right?  :) I am kinda new here...
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #69 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 19:40:27 »
These will fit perfect on poker 2 right?  :) I am kinda new here...

Yes :)

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #70 on: Fri, 15 November 2013, 20:18:49 »
hm, really tempted to get a set of blanks, we will see if i have the funds.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #71 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 03:31:34 »
I want set of blanks, but first i want to see sample  :rolleyes:
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #72 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 04:25:15 »
Is the color going to be charcoal or actually black? :)

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #73 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 04:30:26 »
it won't be black black; the base will have to be lighter for black dyesub legends to work

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #74 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 04:44:57 »
I've asked for sample key black on black dyesub to make sure it will look good. I don't know when/if I will have it yet.

Will wait out for the sample before placing my order to avoid future hassles  ;)

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #75 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 04:52:33 »
Still the 400 MOQ heh?

(Mainly posting to keep tabs of the thread and any updates to this. I'd be in if other languages are added.)

Edit: The blank set is only missing 4 keys to cover ISO. I get why it won't be possible to make it happen for the set with legends.
« Last Edit: Sat, 16 November 2013, 04:55:11 by damorgue »

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #76 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 04:54:01 »
it won't be black black; the base will have to be lighter for black dyesub legends to work

I'm actually hoping for that. I prefer charcoal over black.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #77 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 09:10:20 »
i will like to ask, If you can do a set that have Silver legends ? in color Silver, not white ?
I don't think that this is possible with the dyesub process. You can only make the printing darker, not lighter than the keycap colour.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #78 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 09:37:42 »
As before ISO isn't possible because they don't have mold for the ISO enter to make the keys. I tried to offer ISO without the enter last time and there was almost no interest. I've hunted high and low for a solution, and the only one presently would be to use ABS from GMK. No one else seems to have Cherry profile ISO enter besides Cherry (or whatever 3rd party makes their keycaps which they won't say) who absolutely refuse to sell keycap only.

It's going to be dark enough to call black, but still allow printing a few shades darker black. The printing will be very very subtle.
« Last Edit: Sat, 16 November 2013, 09:40:04 by IvanIvanovich »

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #79 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 15:47:42 »
The printing will be very very subtle.

I might be one of the few who wants it basically invisible.
*fingers crossed it's not too light for my tastes*

Edit: Hey Ivan, should I place an order for 2 blank sets now, and another for a printed set later, or just hold out and do it all at once.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #80 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 17:05:07 »
Ya I will probably get a blank set. Still keen to see the printed sample though.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #81 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 23:02:40 »
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #82 on: Sat, 16 November 2013, 23:08:55 »
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.

I doubt that very much.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #83 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 03:29:37 »
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.

I doubt that very much.

Meh, guess I'll pass then. My next best hope is to find a set of DSA PBT caps with this kind of lettering--DSA rows are all the same, so I don't have to care much about the "layout".
« Last Edit: Sun, 17 November 2013, 12:52:47 by Halbyrd »

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 09:14:40 »
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.
As with the last Dvorak set(s) made, I will buy some if they are offered.

Hopefully the printing will be straighter this time.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #85 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 09:15:38 »
I offered Dvorak on the first PBT set buy I did. Very few people were interested so I haven't offered it again.

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« Reply #86 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 15:14:20 »
Is there any chance of getting the printed set in Dvorak? I'm sorely tempted, but I don't want to spend this much on a set printed with the "wrong" layout.

I doubt that very much.

I would also be interested in getting the Dvorak layout!!!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #87 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 15:21:41 »
I offered Dvorak on the first PBT set buy I did. Very few people were interested so I haven't offered it again.
But those people were very interested!
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #88 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 16:40:26 »
Well, IMSTO has a similar one just like ProjectD said, the VORTEX.
But according to some of my chinese friends, it has a poor quality. After a few weeks using, the legends on keycaps disappeared, which is ridiculous for dyesub keycaps.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #89 on: Sun, 17 November 2013, 18:43:11 »
I will think about adding Dvorak if there is at least 20 people that want it.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #90 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 05:13:02 »
4 extra top row keys add $4 to the set price.

How can I order this option? I want a blank set (or maybe printed if we'll get to see a sample)
Also in your experience how much will shipping to Israel be for 1 set?

Thanks

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #91 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 11:06:37 »
I'll be buying a new Filco keyboard this Christmas and need a set of keys to customize it. I'm definitely in for the deal, but I'm still deciding on whether to go with the blanks or black on black. I would also like to see the sample when you get it.

Thanks Ivan for setting this up.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #92 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 13:20:03 »
Will be purchasing this before the deadline. Highly interested :).

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 14:15:34 »
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #94 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 14:18:05 »
Will be purchasing this before the deadline. Highly interested :).

I don't get this. You don't have to pay any money right now. Invoices will be sent after MOQ was reached.

If everybody did this we would never reach MOQ...

If you are so sure about ordering please just submit your order now. If anything changes in a couple of weeks you can still cancel it  :thumb:

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #95 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 15:03:30 »
I will think about adding Dvorak if there is at least 20 people that want it.
I will be hyping this as much as possible.

Lets get to 20 people!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #96 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 15:22:04 »
Definitely in for this  8)


Thanks for organizing.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #97 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 20:39:40 »
I don't think this has been asked yet: Will these have a 6 stem spacebar for Leopold FC200R compatibility?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #98 on: Mon, 18 November 2013, 22:46:49 »
Placed an order for 2 blank and 1 printed. May cancel the printed after we get the preview.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #99 on: Tue, 19 November 2013, 00:27:28 »
I'm in for this! While not quite what I was looking for, the black on black looks too damn slick!