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Offline Stevenator21

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #200 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 20:16:47 »
Now I have the hard decision.... Blanks or Black on Black. First world problems.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #201 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 20:34:12 »
Now I have the hard decision.... Blanks or Black on Black. First world problems.

Both!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #202 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 21:17:39 »
Now I have the hard decision.... Blanks or Black on Black. First world problems.
I think you should choose blank because it is full blank. About black on black, there is 3 key blank. I think it is not uniform :)

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #203 on: Fri, 13 December 2013, 01:03:40 »
Now I have the hard decision.... Blanks or Black on Black. First world problems.
I think you should choose blank because it is full blank. About black on black, there is 3 key blank. I think it is not uniform :)

Do what I did and get two blanks and a printed set.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #204 on: Fri, 13 December 2013, 05:04:42 »
Ivan if we don't reach the MOQ can we still get these made but pay more for each set?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #205 on: Fri, 13 December 2013, 05:14:41 »
What kind of numbers are we looking at so far?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #206 on: Fri, 13 December 2013, 11:32:49 »
Current count is 115 sets. As long as MOQ is reached somehow they can be made. If you're willing to pay more per set, might as well just buy more sets as that is what you would be doing anyway.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #207 on: Fri, 13 December 2013, 11:51:37 »
Ordering another set.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #208 on: Fri, 13 December 2013, 12:18:25 »
Could people buy them only to sell them after the GB to get the MOQ up?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #209 on: Fri, 13 December 2013, 12:48:54 »
Of course. I do not care what one does with things they buy.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #210 on: Fri, 13 December 2013, 12:49:51 »
Could people buy them only to sell them after the GB to get the MOQ up?

noone is stopping them
except for people who will troll saying you paid so and so price on the GB, why are you charging more blah blah

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #211 on: Fri, 13 December 2013, 13:24:57 »
Could people buy them only to sell them after the GB to get the MOQ up?

noone is stopping them
except for people who will troll saying you paid so and so price on the GB, why are you charging more blah blah

Okay thanks for the clarification. Was wondering because I may buy both, keep which I like more and sell the other off lower than GB price.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #212 on: Fri, 13 December 2013, 19:47:29 »


Will the black on black look like this?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #213 on: Fri, 13 December 2013, 19:51:31 »
Yes, factory will be matching from Topre black on black keycap so it should be extremely similar.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #214 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 10:20:40 »
Looking at these picture I can't believe we don't have more orders.

As far as I know there was no major GB for this before. People should be all over it, but I guess many are just broke around christmas ;)
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #215 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 10:39:54 »
Yeah. Not only has black Cherry profile thick PBT basically not existed, even it's very hard to find low quality OEM thin PBT keycap in black right now which would probably even be a similar price. I expected more as well since I think it has been on lot of people wish list for some time. Perhaps orders will pick up towards the end since that happens lot of time. I never get why people waiting until last minute it's not like you have to pay now.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #216 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 10:57:11 »
Don't hate the player: hate the factory.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #217 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 11:37:43 »
I feel like buying an extra set, too.

 If these turn out well, they might be my end game key caps.

Even though this is geekhack, so usually that means the game is never over. Lol!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #218 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 16:01:03 »
Quick question, would the Black Lettering Caps look good on a Shine 3 that has a black case?
The grey of the Topre caps makes me wonder.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #219 on: Sat, 14 December 2013, 16:04:47 »
It's rather subjective I suppose. I don't think it would look bad on any black keyboard casebody, having both shades of black being the exact same is probably unlikely though. But then that is usually even the case with stock keycap anyway on all black keyboard.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #220 on: Sun, 15 December 2013, 08:21:32 »
Hi IvanIvanovich. I am contemplating on placing an order, but I would like to know first if how much would the shipping cost for 1 or 2 keysets to philippines. Thanks.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #221 on: Sun, 15 December 2013, 10:45:04 »
International shipping cost about $7-11.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #222 on: Sun, 15 December 2013, 11:32:39 »
I don't follow this thread super close but if numbers are hurting close to deadline ill order a 3rd set, any little bit helps I guess.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #223 on: Sun, 15 December 2013, 14:59:56 »
Finally placed an order :)
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #224 on: Sun, 15 December 2013, 21:21:15 »
International shipping cost about $7-11.

cool. order placed. Thanks

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #225 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 05:33:37 »
Why no love for ISO :(

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #226 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 05:41:40 »
If you read the thread you'll see that the factory doesn't have the mould to make an ISO enter
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #227 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 05:57:29 »
I did read the thread and I do know they can't make it. That does not invalidate my question, however.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #228 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 06:08:02 »
wut
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #229 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 06:10:41 »
My thoughts exactly - I'm sure that somewhere in one of Ivan's threads I read that the mould for ISO would cost them thousands of $ - probably not worth it...
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #230 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 06:13:33 »
Well we didn't have to buy moulds for ANSI because factory already has it, hence my question why no love for ISO or in other terms (obviously more understandable for some reason, which is unknown to me) - why do they not have a mould for ISO as well.

Either way it's more a rhetorical question and I can't believe I have to explain this.

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« Reply #231 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 06:52:55 »
What's a rhetorical question.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #232 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 08:04:27 »
Woah, finally I can replace my blank ABS keyset with something better!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #234 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 08:15:04 »
I'm confused by the above... I give up.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #235 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 08:16:44 »
@ Ivan

The MOQ of 400 is for both sets combined and not for each set right?

If so, I could probably squeeze in a blank set to my existing order, but right now this wouldn't change much I guess...

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #236 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 10:54:35 »
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.

I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?

I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #237 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:02:00 »
I'd love that idea, but as an ISO user I am biased of course :D

For me matching colors are way more important than matching materials. An ISO add on set is only interesting if it's the exact same shade of black in my opinion.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #238 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:16:20 »
exact same shade of black

I imagine that'd be very hard to achieve - two different companies using two different materials would more than likely lead to slightly different shades of black...

I'm not that fussed by the ISO keys but maybe 1.5 mods etc might be cool - if it doesn't add to the price too much (say $5-10) then I'd be in :thumb:

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #239 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:18:57 »
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.

I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?

I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?


yeah if only we get that ISO and winkeyless at a low price. I'm definitely down for atleast 2 :)
Have you tried contacting GMK about this?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #240 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:27:08 »
No I haven't got in touch with GMK yet, just something that came up recently as an idea chatting with some other members. I thought I would see reaction first. As far as color matching perfetly, I think it's safe to go on assumption it will not.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #241 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:28:15 »
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.

I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?

I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?

I might put in for a second set of these caps except in blank to help us meet the MOQ. How should I go about this? Just place another order like I did for the first set or is there a way to edit my existing order?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #242 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 11:29:44 »
If you saved the link the form gave you at the end you can use that to edit your order entries. Otherwise just place a new order with all your info and everything you want and the old ones will get deleted.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #243 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 13:08:29 »
No I haven't got in touch with GMK yet, just something that came up recently as an idea chatting with some other members. I thought I would see reaction first. As far as color matching perfetly, I think it's safe to go on assumption it will not.

Sherry did the otaku with bsp and imsto, though I don't think bsp has iso enter.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #244 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 13:23:45 »
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.

I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?

I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?

Isn't ANSI exactly the same as ISO only different enter and 105 keys vs 104? I'd be interested if I could get a full blank black set of caps for my Cherry G80-3000, even if that means enter would be ABS...I don't think the difference in colour would be that great, would it?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #245 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 13:25:02 »
If you saved the link the form gave you at the end you can use that to edit your order entries. Otherwise just place a new order with all your info and everything you want and the old ones will get deleted.

Thanks for the info. Since I did not save the old URL I just submitted a new order for a set of blanks and a set of dye sub. I figure I can try them both and keep which ever I like better.

I really, really hope we can meet MOQ, I'm dying for a set of these!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #246 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 13:26:22 »
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.

I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?

I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?

Isn't ANSI exactly the same as ISO only different enter and 105 keys vs 104? I'd be interested if I could get a full blank black set of caps for my Cherry G80-3000, even if that means enter would be ABS...I don't think the difference in colour would be that great, would it?

The left shift is a different size and the legends are different on a good number of keycaps.  There's an extra 1x keycap on the asdfg row and zxcv row too.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #247 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 14:06:39 »
No I haven't got in touch with GMK yet, just something that came up recently as an idea chatting with some other members. I thought I would see reaction first.

If its an add on then fine, but I don't want to pay for something I have 0 use for.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #248 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 14:24:15 »
That's right it's 400 sets total. In reality we are ordering 400 blank sets from the keycap factory, then X sets go to the dyesub process.

I don't know why they don't have ISO. I suppose they don't since Asia doesn't use ISO generally but ANSI and they are a Chinese factory?

I was considering... since the MOQ number is the same... how would it feel about getting a little 'extras' from GMK in ABS blank black for ISO enter, 1.5 mod, 1.75 shift, 7x spacebar, and windowed lock keys? Assuming the price is cheap would people mind it get added into the sets? I know some people don't like idea of mixing keycap material but having keys to accommodate layout is better than nothing?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #249 on: Mon, 16 December 2013, 15:41:31 »
OK we will see how much it cost the GMK extras, and go from there.