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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #150 on: Thu, 28 November 2013, 11:00:01 »
So the blank ones will be process black or rich black?
Would love it more if its rich black ♥

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #151 on: Thu, 28 November 2013, 21:03:55 »
is dyesub or double shot better for longer lasting keys?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #152 on: Thu, 28 November 2013, 21:05:15 »
is dyesub or double shot better for longer lasting keys?

Pbt is better than abs in that department

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #153 on: Thu, 28 November 2013, 21:10:00 »
So tempted by the blanks as a set to replace all sets.

only problem is I own a 75% and a cherry 11900, 75% would waste a bunch of keys and the 11900 would waste the bottom row keys due to 6x spacebar and 1x mods.....FML

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #154 on: Thu, 28 November 2013, 21:46:13 »
So tempted by the blanks as a set to replace all sets.

only problem is I own a 75% and a cherry 11900, 75% would waste a bunch of keys and the 11900 would waste the bottom row keys due to 6x spacebar and 1x mods.....FML

Sounds like a first world problem.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #155 on: Thu, 28 November 2013, 23:53:33 »
So tempted by the blanks as a set to replace all sets.

only problem is I own a 75% and a cherry 11900, 75% would waste a bunch of keys and the 11900 would waste the bottom row keys due to 6x spacebar and 1x mods.....FML

um....just deal with it?

it's cheaper than anything with legends and it's just cheap in general.

I haven't seen too many dedicated 75% keysets
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #156 on: Fri, 29 November 2013, 01:37:27 »
Just buy more sets, so you can use the numpad 0 2x key for the shift and the extra 1x keys for the mods and such... sell the leftovers as a 37set or whatever.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #157 on: Fri, 29 November 2013, 21:10:39 »
Ordered blanks +4. I'm looking forward to turning my ducky into an ominous black slab.

Is the spacebar pbt as well?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #158 on: Sat, 30 November 2013, 09:43:50 »
Yes the spacebar is PBT too.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #159 on: Sun, 01 December 2013, 23:12:59 »
So blanks will be... rich black?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #160 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 10:52:28 »
Any chance getting this caps made if we don't hit 400 sets (lower MOQ for higher price...)?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #161 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 11:09:47 »
ordered!
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #162 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 17:58:42 »
update on the buy count?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #163 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 18:34:47 »
Still have not broken even 100 set yet. Still a long way to go.
All the sets will be same black. See the Realforce black on black, it will be just like it.
MOQ must be met, perhaps some vendor would like to order some larger amounts...

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #164 on: Mon, 02 December 2013, 20:48:43 »
Man how is that even possible... I got 3 for just me, and other people here have expressed interest in multiple sets. EVERYONE PUT YOUR MONEY TOWARDS BLANK BLACK PBT!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #165 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:40:45 »
possibly the originative black friday sale affected this.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #166 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 12:49:47 »
possibly the originative black friday sale affected this.

50 sets?  I'm in on both since I figured getting to 400 here was going to be shifty until the last minute, given the ability of people to make an account and say that they are interested in the buy and need to wait, but are unable to read the first post and understand that if they do not put in their vote into what is basically an interest poll, all of their hand wringing is for naught.  The fact that Sherry is getting IMSTO just to make the 1.25x and 6.25x keys for his kit and relying on BSP for the wkl keys means that he's getting IMSTO's factory rolling for Realforce replicas.  That might speed up the samples for Ivan, but the hard fact is that Ivan has to basically herd cats into following instructions and making commitments so that he can actually try to get people the product they've been waiting for.  Originative just said **** it and threw money at the problem because they are a business.  That's how you make sure things come to market.  If people didn't want Originative's pricing, they needed to commit to this.  You can't be wishy washy and expect people to pick up the slack for you.

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Just felt like explaining what's been going through my head with these two buys, I'd really like to see this be successful because a blank black Cherry set has always been my dream keyset ever since I saw a 356L.  Ever since the thin PBT's with/without the gold sideprint seemed to be EOL'd, there has definitely been a huge void in the market.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #167 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 13:11:21 »
Yeah this happens a lot around here I think. People always say oh I will wait to order to see if it's going to make it. Problem is 80% is doing the same, no one places order and it fails. If you want things, place the order. If it still doesn't happen you 'wasted' couple minutes filling the form, not much of a loss for you.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #168 on: Tue, 03 December 2013, 15:20:19 »
Yeah this happens a lot around here I think. People always say oh I will wait to order to see if it's going to make it. Problem is 80% is doing the same, no one places order and it fails. If you want things, place the order. If it still doesn't happen you 'wasted' couple minutes filling the form, not much of a loss for you.

+1, you're not throwing money at anything. Just fill out those forms people!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #169 on: Wed, 04 December 2013, 04:35:11 »
Yeah this happens a lot around here I think. People always say oh I will wait to order to see if it's going to make it. Problem is 80% is doing the same, no one places order and it fails. If you want things, place the order. If it still doesn't happen you 'wasted' couple minutes filling the form, not much of a loss for you.

+1, you're not throwing money at anything. Just fill out those forms people!

i totally agree!!!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #170 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 05:45:57 »
Quick question?

Can i use different email to get invoice than my paypal email?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #171 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 07:29:19 »
my bank balance is going to hate me for this but **** it, im in for a set of blanks.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #172 on: Fri, 06 December 2013, 10:39:34 »
Quick question?

Can i use different email to get invoice than my paypal email?

You can, but I strongly prefer that you do not. It makes it a lot harder if I need to follow up on something when my data dosen't match up in my order sheet vs. paypal.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #173 on: Sat, 07 December 2013, 21:29:50 »
Put in an order for one of each.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #174 on: Sun, 08 December 2013, 17:28:16 »
Ordered
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #175 on: Mon, 09 December 2013, 16:49:17 »
ordered..........

ordered the blanks to- for my ducky

these blanks r top row correct? just asking to see if there are any for bottom row- g80, num pad?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #176 on: Mon, 09 December 2013, 17:44:50 »
The additional 4, yes they are top meant for Ducky, Keycool, etc. 108... stand alone numpad with 4 extra top keys, or what not.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #177 on: Tue, 10 December 2013, 11:26:54 »
I'm in for a set of blanks + 4, I hope orders start picking up during/after the holidays.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #178 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 19:40:06 »
Do you know when around these will ship?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #179 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 19:53:35 »
Usually couple month after order is paid to production.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #180 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 20:25:59 »
Usually couple month after order is paid to production.

Awesome! I think I will order the day after XMAS, because I get my keyboard the day before. Really hoping this goes through, it is just what I have been looking for!
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #181 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 20:28:07 »
Usually couple month after order is paid to production.

Awesome! I think I will order the day after XMAS, because I get my keyboard the day before. Really hoping this goes through, it is just what I have been looking for!

Well we do need to hit that MOQ,,,

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #182 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 21:01:45 »
Threw in an order for one of each so far to help with MOQ. Would be a shame if we're not able to hit it people.
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« Reply #183 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 21:47:38 »
Threw in an order for one of each so far to help with MOQ. Would be a shame if we're not able to hit it people.

Yeah I am really hoping that this one goes through.
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« Reply #184 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 21:52:55 »
Just ordered 2!

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #185 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:35:15 »
Ordered a set. Come on people!  :-*
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #186 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 22:36:49 »
Who is making the caps and why is their moq so high?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #187 on: Wed, 11 December 2013, 23:32:36 »
why is their moq so high?

You would think they would be satisfied with just a moq of 100 or 200 - think how easy it is - no QC'ing legend quality nor wear and tear on the engraving machine.

^ blanks (only)

Still .. wtf
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #188 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 01:17:31 »
why is their moq so high?

Just by looking on taobao, you can see China really enjoys vivid colors when you look up keycaps. The amount of unicorn vomit is quite impressive. But what does that all have in common? The possibility for legends to be visible. Each black PBT keycap that's still available has some sort of engraved, infill design. Looking at the black PBT sets a few years back, most were laser engraved or etched to show legends. My guess for the high MOQ is that the factory that imsto, KBC, Vortex, what-have-you uses probably thinks that dye subbing sets in all black isn't beneficial for them hence why you rarely see black PBT sets nowadays. Ducky black PBT sets are a good example as mechanicalkeyboards, etc. haven't gotten stock since forever (aside from what Ducky Nordic can come up with like the engraved QWERTZ sets, etc. but even those are only a few). Another is that Vortex black on black/charcoal set with the ugly font. You hardly see those anymore (probably because the font was so ugly :p). I'm certain that dark charcoal will be similar to what will be used for the non blank set so the Cherry font can be dye sub onto it.

I remember bugging imsto (others have too I believe) if he would do blank, black sets and he would reply with a simple 'No' regardless of whatever amount you'd pay him/bribe him with. I'm still curious as to what Ivan said to imsto so he could convince the factory to run these sets. I'm still hoping for more people to get in on this because I really would like to see this actually happen as there's a spacebar that's PBT as opposed to BSP and their lack of spacebar molds.

My $0.02.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #189 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 01:39:14 »
I can't believe no vendor has jumped in with a huge order :?
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« Reply #190 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 07:33:57 »
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #191 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 10:36:31 »
Ordered. I'm willing to wait as long as it takes to hit the MOQ :D

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #192 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 10:50:36 »
I'm new to this process. If the MOQ isn't hit before January 15th, what happens? Do we just hang tight until we reach the MOQ?

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #193 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 10:53:36 »
I'm new to this process. If the MOQ isn't hit before January 15th, what happens? Do we just hang tight until we reach the MOQ?
Maybe we have to continue wait until hit MOQ

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #194 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 11:21:00 »
If MOQ not reached on deadline... it depend on how far away it is still what I decide. Either extend or cancel because too low interest.
What I say to imsto to agree these? Well that is easy... accept 400 MOQ factory wants. It's probably pretty much a custom order, they need to get black PBT material. I am sure they want to use the volume, as they are probably subject to minimum order from materials supplier too, and not have it laying about.

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« Reply #195 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 14:33:51 »
Will these be thick?
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #196 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 14:37:29 »
Will these be thick?

yes, imsto pbt is thick pbt

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« Reply #197 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 17:16:18 »
Will these be thick?

yes, imsto pbt is thick pbt

Sweet, thanks! Also, thanks Ivan for this GB, my fingers are crossed on the MOQ being reached.
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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #198 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 18:01:02 »
How did I not see this until now?

Ordered.

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Re: PBT 104/105 set ROUND 3 [The Pitch BLACK edition]
« Reply #199 on: Thu, 12 December 2013, 18:41:06 »
I hope this makes it!