[IC] ALL NEW Midnight SA set

[Matt3o]

I talked with Samwisekoi and It seems the Nuclear GB won't start soon, so I can run the midnight SA.

These are the options:

1) All ROW 3
2) ROW 1 + ROW 1 + ROW 2 + ROW 3 + ROW 3 + ROW 3
3) ROW 1 + ROW 1 + ROW 2 + ROW 3 + ROW 4 (with ROW 3 mods) + ROW 3

which one would you prefer?

[Photoelectric]

It will probably be more apparent once Penumbra ships and people begin testing it out on their keyboards. I believe Penumbra has all Row 3 alphas, which will be a departure from the ergonomic sculpted OEM / DCS / Cherry (but not new to people who use DSA).  All Row 3 for alphas would make it easier for different layouts.

[pasph]

1) All ROW 3
A tall DSA set...

[Matt3o]

Honestly I'm very tempted by option 2, but I may end up making it all row3 and add some kits for variable rows... (insane? yes, I am)

[pasph]

Well 3) is the option choosen by R5 and there will be more than enough.
2) is different and tempting.
But with 3) you can also offer international kits again.
Try to ask don't hurt...

[Heliosphere]

I don't know enough about SA to make a decision on row sizes. What are the advantages/disadvantages of each option?

[Elrick]

(insane? yes, I am)

Join the club  .

[Zebadule]

I there any chance of this set getting run in DSA later? I'd love to see this for the ErgoDox.

[tbc]

I there any chance of this set getting run in DSA later? I'd love to see this for the ErgoDox.

matt3o said he's tired of DSA fr awhile at least

inbefore SA is great for ergodox

[Matt3o]

I'm never tired of DSA, simply we had enough of it for the moment.

[Zebadule]

I'm never tired of DSA, simply we had enough of it for the moment.

Fair enough. I'm a huge fan of this design though, so if you do end up running it in R3 SA or something that can be rearranged, I'm totally in for one.

[Cods]

Looks great.
Interested in all Row 3.

[GSimon]

This set is gorgeous! I support w.e rows are used with the penumbra set.

[Matt3o]

ok this would be the idea:

Hope it makes sense.



This is the only coherent layout we can have with current SP tooling, and I believe it has never been done.

[SL89]

ok this would be the idea:

Hope it makes sense.

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This is the only coherent layout we can have with current SP tooling, and I believe it has never been done.

The 'bottom' row is convex where as the others are concave, would that apply to all the mods or just the space bar?

[Matt3o]

yeah, sorry about that, just the spacebar of course.

[SL89]

yeah, sorry about that, just the spacebar of course.

No worries. For what its worth, i like this layout. But i think it would look really clean if they were all uniform Row 3.

[archer]

So DCS won the poll, but this is being made in SA? Is the profile still being determined?

If the profile has been decided on, perhaps updating the OP would help new/lazy people like myself.

Sorry, I haven't read through this entire thread to figure out all the nuances.

Beautiful set though! The yellow highlights really pop, and those glow in the dark keys look great! 

[Matt3o]

We are going to do both DCS and SA.

DCS will probably start sooner.

[SL89]

We are going to do both DCS and SA.

DCS will probably start sooner.

Matt3o on a slight detour from the main point, does SP offer DCS caps all in one uniform profile?

[Matt3o]

yes they do.

[archer]

We are going to do both DCS and SA.

DCS will probably start sooner.

Thanks for letting me know, I appreciate it! 

[GSimon]

ok this would be the idea:

Hope it makes sense.

[img width=640 height=130]http://i.imgur.com/To6sWZq.png[img]

This is the only coherent layout we can have with current SP tooling, and I believe it has never been done.

I like it!

[Matt3o]

Midnight DCS



Midnight SA



You have two days to spot errors and send suggestions!

[Elrick]

Midnight SA

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You have two days to spot errors and send suggestions!

Absolutely BEAUTIFUL  :o .

I think this year is going to be heaven for the SA Profile.  Thank you for doing this Matt.

[madhias]

I'm wondering how the midnight SA set fits to black Round 5 SA caps mixed together? Or midnight SA with some red splashes?

[Matt3o]

I may still add an Apple kit and a gamer kit to SA.

I'm wondering how the midnight SA set fits to black Round 5 SA caps mixed together? Or midnight SA with some red splashes?

well... black goes with everything

[Zebadule]

Looks amazing! I'm not sure if it would be practical, but could an alternate homing key pack be added to the SA options? I've always wanted a homing "s" and "t" for my Malt layout, and I'm sure others would probably appreciate an option for their Colemak/Dvorak.

A pack with a couple blanks would also be super nice to have for a few of those odd 1x ErgoDox keys that aren't alphanumeric.

I'm in for a base set and the ErgoDox set regardless (and probably some extras too).

[Matt3o]

I can add an HENTU kit if there's interest.

Nice idea about the blanks!

[Zebadule]

I can add an HENTU kit if there's interest.

Wouldn't have the S that I've always wanted, but I'd still be in for it if there's enough other interest.

Glad the blanks sound good! I can deal with miss-lettered alphas, but needing to use whatever spare caps to fill in the mods would drive me crazy.

[Toxic-i-]

Can i also order a Midnight set? How i can order?

[LechnerDE]

Can i also order a Midnight set? How i can order?

Sure you can, but the Group Buy isn't live yet.

It will be announced in this thread, so keep checking it

[jamaicanpi]

Possible error/inconsistency: In the DSC set of modifiers, "Backspace" is one word, everywhere else is is two words, including the SA modifiers.

All-in-all, it's a pretty set and I look forward to it. First set of keycaps!

[CPTBadAss]

Midnight SA

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You have two days to spot errors and send suggestions!

I haven't followed all the pages in this thread so please forgive me if it's been stated. Are the enter and escape legends supposed to be different colors? And I think I prefer "Insert" to "Ins".

And I've been waiting for this SA set for a while. Thank you for running it matt3o!

[Toxic-i-]

Nice Set Matt3o!!!
Can you make the " Moon Cap" in the same colour like the "Enter cap"
The "Yellow and the Black" is a good Mix

PS:  The "Cursor Caps" are not Black Yellow? On the first page they are yellow.

btw "Nuclear GB"  ? what do you mean? The Toxic Group buy from BunnyLake?

[jdcarpe]

Let me just say that I love the slant kit. That's how you do sets right, brother.

[jamaicanpi]

It looks like the you're plan for the SA profile changed.

We're not going R3-R1-R2-R3-R3-R3?


Instead you're planning to offer two kits to let people choose between R3-R1-R2-R3-R4-R3  &  R3 for all



I like the option, but my only problem is with the implementation. The current plan means that if someone wants the variable rows, they have to also purchase the variable kit with the base kit with all of the same rows. That's a pretty expensive and wasteful proposition. Are we doing this to ensure that at least one kit gets sufficient orders?

[jdcarpe]

It looks like the you're plan for the SA profile changed.

We're not going R3-R1-R2-R3-R3-R3?

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Instead you're planning to offer two kits to let people choose between R3-R1-R2-R3-R4-R3  &  R3 for all

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I like the option, but my only problem is with the implementation. The current plan means that if someone wants the variable rows, they have to also purchase the variable kit with the base kit with all of the same rows. That's a pretty expensive and wasteful proposition. Are we doing this to ensure that at least one kit gets sufficient orders?

Just get base kit and slant kit. That way everyone can be happy with the profile choices.

[Matt3o]

Can i also order a Midnight set? How i can order?

I'll push everything to Melissa next Monday, so presumably this should start really soon.

Possible error/inconsistency: In the DSC set of modifiers, "Backspace" is one word, everywhere else is is two words, including the SA modifiers.

All-in-all, it's a pretty set and I look forward to it. First set of keycaps!

It's a Cherry replica font, that's exactly how it should read.

I haven't followed all the pages in this thread so please forgive me if it's been stated. Are the enter and escape legends supposed to be different colors?

Yes, they are

I like the option, but my only problem is with the implementation. The current plan means that if someone wants the variable rows, they have to also purchase the variable kit with the base kit with all of the same rows. That's a pretty expensive and wasteful proposition. Are we doing this to ensure that at least one kit gets sufficient orders?

Nobody supported my proposal so I went we the most requested feature (all ROW3) + one kit with other options. It's not very expensive actually, most of the keys are 1u, but of course you get a lot of spares. If you have ideas just let me know.

[Matt3o]

PS: the options as of now are: 1) all r3, 2) r3-r1-r2-r3-r3-r3 3) r3-r1-r2-r3-r4-r3

[pasph]

Without international kits 3) for me

[Matt3o]

take basekit and slant and you are done.

[Heliosphere]

I really like the way you made the SA kit with a slant kit, Matt3o, very clever! However, I now want both DCS and SA kits... I'm scared this might run me several hundred dollars! 

[Hofy]

No midnight gamer kit for SA? 

[Matt3o]

No midnight gamer kit for SA? 

oh, of course!

[jdcarpe]

Boring Joe's addition of Esc and Enter?

[Matt3o]

Boring Joe's addition of Esc and Enter?

sorry? you mean blue instead of yellow?

also would you be willing to part from the row4 in the slant kit to make it cheaper?

[jdcarpe]

Boring Joe's addition of Esc and Enter?

sorry? you mean blue instead of yellow?

also would you be willing to part from the row4 in the slant kit to make it cheaper?

Yes, blue legends for a more boring look

And I was looking forward to a set with actual Row 4 keys on the bottom alphas.

[archer]

A 00 key that would go along with the numpad kit(s) would be pretty sweet.

[Matt3o]

UPDATES!

Midnight DCS



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