Most highly regarded MX keyboard?

[SpAmRaY]

You can get MX boards with HHKB  layout

[kfmfe04]

You can get MX boards with HHKB  layout

I'd be very interested in this, if someone has cranked out an MX board close to Filco quality, but with a HHKB layout (I still prefer topre, but I need some MX boards to hold all these extra keycaps  ) ).  Any suggestions?

[demik]

kmac happy

GH60

[tuxsavvy]

a kmac is like a kit to build a classic horse pulled carriage..

The whole concept of the horse drawn cart itself is obsolete and slow as balls..  BUT it's pretty and reminds people of simpler times.

The Egdx on the other hand is like a modern gasoline car..  It's better in everyway.. you may or may not find it aesthetically pleasing, since to most people, it's not what they're used to seeing with respect to the rectangle in front of their computers.

Make no mistake... extended use of classic keyboards inevitably leads to Repetitive stress disorder...

There is no question that this is what's going to happen if you lead a computer-oriented lifestyle..

If you had to dig trenches with a shovel,  vs a tractor...   That is the difference...

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tp, your title should be "Ergodox Enforcer"

You're definitely not alone there - I have said something similar before. Also that is ignoring the fact that there's dime-a-dozen more ergonomic keyboards floating out there on the market, plenty more fancy varied shapes and sizes to choose from. When talking about ergonomics, there's plenty of ways to skin a cat - to say ErgoDox is superior to all of the ergonomical keyboard designs out there is really a bold (yet naïve) statement.

Anyway OP, I think your question is too open. For HHKB equivalent in Cherry MX realm (whilst retaining 60% factor) you have KMAC. For μTron keyboard equivalent, you have the likes of Cherry G80-5000 for instance, and so on and so forth.

The reason I ask this and started this thread is because of my concern that one day the HHKB will no longer be available. This scares me as I'm learning this layout and then I'll have to go back to a standard layout.

There will be clones comes the day when there is a need to. Also I think it is mainly the left Control key that gets swapped. There's honestly a fair few 60% boards which look somewhat a little similar to HHKB (minus the left control key being in the same position).

Also, I guess it wouldn't hurt to swap around with other keyboards as well. That is pretty much what I am doing, swapping around with other keyboard so that I can then paint a mental image of the keyboard in my head along with the keys and what not.

[Oobly]

Perhaps this:


Or the iOne Scorpius M10 or an older Razer Blackwidow.... Oh wait, you said "regarded", not "retarded"... Oh well.

[rowdy]

Or thinking about it a different way, if by most highly regarded you would consider one that is most recommended, I have probably seen CM QFR recommended more than almost any other keyboard around here.

[Oobly]

Or thinking about it a different way, if by most highly regarded you would consider one that is most recommended, I have probably seen CM QFR recommended more than almost any other keyboard around here.

Nah, that would be most often recommended. Most highly regarded is the one considered to be best overall, QFR is just considered best value.

I hadn't thought about the Korean customs, just "normal" commercial boards. A custom is very nice, but hard to pin down one design that gives the best idea of how MX feels. Some custom sellers offer completed boards, but it costs more. Personally I think a Filco comes close to the customs if you simply replace the case with a metal one. A big advantage of customs, though, is a plate that allows you open the switches without desoldering them.

[rowdy]

Or thinking about it a different way, if by most highly regarded you would consider one that is most recommended, I have probably seen CM QFR recommended more than almost any other keyboard around here.

Nah, that would be most often recommended. Most highly regarded is the one considered to be best overall, QFR is just considered best value.

I hadn't thought about the Korean customs, just "normal" commercial boards. A custom is very nice, but hard to pin down one design that gives the best idea of how MX feels. Some custom sellers offer completed boards, but it costs more. Personally I think a Filco comes close to the customs if you simply replace the case with a metal one. A big advantage of customs, though, is a plate that allows you open the switches without desoldering them.

I was thinking that the keyboard you regarded the highest is the one you are most likely to recommend to a friend.

A Korean custom, or HHKB-S might be your favourite, but they are not often the first keyboard recommended to a newbie due to cost.

[terran5992]

Filco or a korean custom

[epzy]

Perhaps this:

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Or the iOne Scorpius M10 or an older Razer Blackwidow.... Oh wait, you said "regarded", not "retarded"... Oh well.

What a nice spaceship keyboard.  :cool:

[Grim Fandango]

Most highly regarded. So that is about having the reputation of being the best right? I have not tried enough of them to answer which is actually best, but if you comb through the forum and have to find some kind of consensus, then I think you would find that Filco is the brand often mentioned when people are talking about a quality MX board. That is not to say that other brands like Leopold and so on are thought of as bad, but it seems that at least in the minds of people Filco is the benchmark.

Of course, that does not mean that everyone would agree with it. While a non-issue for most, some people would rather get a board that does not have the infamous ping. Or a board with other stabilizers. Or a board which comes with PBT stock keycaps instead of Filcos crappy padprinted ABS ones, and so on. But, we are talking overall reputation here.

[neunelfer]

a kmac is like a kit to build a classic horse pulled carriage..

The whole concept of the horse drawn cart itself is obsolete and slow as balls..  BUT it's pretty and reminds people of simpler times.

The Egdx on the other hand is like a modern gasoline car..  It's better in everyway.. you may or may not find it aesthetically pleasing, since to most people, it's not what they're used to seeing with respect to the rectangle in front of their computers.

Make no mistake... extended use of classic keyboards inevitably leads to Repetitive stress disorder...

There is no question that this is what's going to happen if you lead a computer-oriented lifestyle..

If you had to dig trenches with a shovel,  vs a tractor...   That is the difference...

Show Image

tp, your title should be "Ergodox Enforcer"

You're definitely not alone there - I have said something similar before. Also that is ignoring the fact that there's dime-a-dozen more ergonomic keyboards floating out there on the market, plenty more fancy varied shapes and sizes to choose from. When talking about ergonomics, there's plenty of ways to skin a cat - to say ErgoDox is superior to all of the ergonomical keyboard designs out there is really a bold (yet naïve) statement.

Anyway OP, I think your question is too open. For HHKB equivalent in Cherry MX realm (whilst retaining 60% factor) you have KMAC. For μTron keyboard equivalent, you have the likes of Cherry G80-5000 for instance, and so on and so forth.

The reason I ask this and started this thread is because of my concern that one day the HHKB will no longer be available. This scares me as I'm learning this layout and then I'll have to go back to a standard layout.

There will be clones comes the day when there is a need to. Also I think it is mainly the left Control key that gets swapped. There's honestly a fair few 60% boards which look somewhat a little similar to HHKB (minus the left control key being in the same position).

Also, I guess it wouldn't hurt to swap around with other keyboards as well. That is pretty much what I am doing, swapping around with other keyboard so that I can then paint a mental image of the keyboard in my head along with the keys and what not.

Really, the layout of the HHKB isn't that different. A few lines in Autohotkey and you can basically replicate it.

[kskwerl]

Is there any way to swap the control with the shift on the HHKB?

[SpAmRaY]

Is there any way to swap the control with the shift on the HHKB?

If your on windows you could use keytweak, not sure why you'd want to swap them though

[neunelfer]

Is there any way to swap the control with the shift on the HHKB?

If your on windows you could use keytweak, not sure why you'd want to swap them though

Either that or autohotkey.

[kskwerl]

Is there any way to swap the control with the shift on the HHKB?

If your on windows you could use keytweak, not sure why you'd want to swap them though

Is there any way to swap the control with the shift on the HHKB?

If your on windows you could use keytweak, not sure why you'd want to swap them though

Either that or autohotkey.

Thanks guys, not sure if I'm gonna reprogram it like that or not or just give it more time

[Wildcard]

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[SpAmRaY]

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[neunelfer]

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wow...that almost makes me want to puke...

You might be sitting too close to your screen

[Krogenar]

Perhaps this:

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Or the iOne Scorpius M10 or an older Razer Blackwidow.... Oh wait, you said "regarded", not "retarded"... Oh well.

What a nice spaceship keyboard.  :cool:

****, the chevrons are locking!

[Novus]

Perhaps this:

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Or the iOne Scorpius M10 or an older Razer Blackwidow.... Oh wait, you said "regarded", not "retarded"... Oh well.

What a nice spaceship keyboard.  :cool:

****, the chevrons are locking!

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