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Re: F122
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 00:16:43 »
Definitely a find, not too great of a price though.

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Re: F122
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 07:54:26 »
They are shooting for the moon on that buy-it-now price.  Maybe if it was Teensified and clean up.

Oh, and I'm getting a shipping quote of $12.84 from Long Island to Indianapolis for a Model F.  That might be accurate for about 1988.
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Re: F122
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 08:57:44 »
Update.  The seller must visit here.  Price just dropped to $229.99 BIN, and $129.99 starting price.  Bid away, folks!
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Re: F122
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 08:59:23 »
Update.  The seller must visit here.  Price just dropped to $229.99 BIN, and $129.99 starting price.  Bid away, folks!

Still quite high. I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.
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Re: F122
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:03:46 »
Update.  The seller must visit here.  Price just dropped to $229.99 BIN, and $129.99 starting price.  Bid away, folks!

Still quite high. I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.


The BIN is high, but I think the bidding will get some bites.  These things have been going for over $150 lately.
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Re: F122
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:08:37 »

I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.


A user looking for an IBM Model F that he can take out of the box and plug into his computer only has 1 option: the AT.

It is also an efficient, compact, SSK-similar size and shape.
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Re: F122
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:09:53 »

I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.


A user looking for an IBM Model F that he can take out of the box and plug into his computer only has 1 option: the AT.

It is also an efficient, compact, SSK-similar size and shape.


That's why I liked my AT. A couple of adapter and it's up and running. At to that, it's a lot smaller than the F122, not quite SSK, but not an air craft carrier like the 122 is
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Re: F122
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:16:21 »
If the seller of this F-122 would put the BIN around the price the last one he sold went for, I'm sure he could sell it fast. But not at the current price.
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Re: F122
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:36:47 »

I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.


A user looking for an IBM Model F that he can take out of the box and plug into his computer only has 1 option: the AT.

It is also an efficient, compact, SSK-similar size and shape.


That's why I liked my AT. A couple of adapter and it's up and running. At to that, it's a lot smaller than the F122, not quite SSK, but not an air craft carrier like the 122 is

But that's the joy of the F122.  It's like having a battle station at your command.  A retired World War II battle station that requires some tinkering and elbow grease to work, with your key presses supported by the three layers of steel.  It's the perfect fit for those of us that churn our own butter and raise own sheep for clothing.
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Re: F122
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 09:40:37 »

I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.


A user looking for an IBM Model F that he can take out of the box and plug into his computer only has 1 option: the AT.

It is also an efficient, compact, SSK-similar size and shape.


That's why I liked my AT. A couple of adapter and it's up and running. At to that, it's a lot smaller than the F122, not quite SSK, but not an air craft carrier like the 122 is

But that's the joy of the F122.  It's like having a battle station at your command.  A retired World War II battle station that requires some tinkering and elbow grease to work, with your key presses supported by the three layers of steel.  It's the perfect fit for those of us that churn our own butter and raise own sheep for clothing.

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I can barely stand my SSK in terms of size on my desk.... I need more space!!
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Re: F122
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 10:54:02 »
actually I have found my regular M122 quite good enough (and it's much cheaper). For those on a budget, just ignore the F propaganda and buy one of these cheapo M terminals for like $25 shipped. Keyboard is already plenty solid and heavy.
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Re: F122
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 10:55:44 »
That shipping to the UK :'( If I could get an F122 for $200 shipped I'd probably go for it.
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Re: F122
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 12:31:01 »
actually I have found my regular M122 quite good enough (and it's much cheaper). For those on a budget, just ignore the F propaganda and buy one of these cheapo M terminals for like $25 shipped. Keyboard is already plenty solid and heavy.

Model F's IMO feel better.
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Re: F122
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 12:59:41 »
actually I have found my regular M122 quite good enough (and it's much cheaper). For those on a budget, just ignore the F propaganda and buy one of these cheapo M terminals for like $25 shipped. Keyboard is already plenty solid and heavy.

Model F's IMO feel better.

Completely agree.  Tried to explain that to some people on OCN, then I remembered it's OCN.  That and the fact that one of the people involved loved Alienware and their Blackwidow keyboard.

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Re: F122
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 13:42:22 »
actually I have found my regular M122 quite good enough (and it's much cheaper). For those on a budget, just ignore the F propaganda and buy one of these cheapo M terminals for like $25 shipped. Keyboard is already plenty solid and heavy.

Model F's IMO feel better.

Of course they do. I own some myself. One working XT that I really love. But after months, I still haven't gotten off my ass to fix my F122, and I have a couple others without spacebar, which tells you a lot about how important it is to me to fix my Fs.

M122 already feels good enough to keep using it. It's heaven compared with any scissors switch or chiclet or even alps. So for people who can't afford to pay more, M122 is a serviceable substitute.

I don't believe in the Razer hate propaganda also. Granted, Razer isn't that great. But for someone on a budget faced with a secondhand Filco at $120 shipped, and a secondhand Razer at $50 shipped, I'd say just go with the Razer. The extra $70 difference could mean a week's rent or groceries for some students or in-between job geeks.

It's a pragmatic, value-conscious mentality that isn't fashionable, I know. But not everyone on this site is a top programmer making $200k a year. We've got Vietnamese and Filipino kids who probably make $500 a month or less.
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Re: F122
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 14:12:17 »
actually I have found my regular M122 quite good enough (and it's much cheaper). For those on a budget, just ignore the F propaganda and buy one of these cheapo M terminals for like $25 shipped. Keyboard is already plenty solid and heavy.

Completely agree.  Unless you insist on having an F buckling-spring-over-capacative-contact switch or the ultra-heavy metal backplate, the M122 is just as much of a visually imposing battleship as the F122.  And given that M122 keyboards are both plentiful on ebay and available for 1/6th the price (trending towards 1/10th the price) of the F122, the ONLY reason to buy an F122 is if you are a super F-purist, just gotta have one of everything, or desire one over the M122 purely because it's rarer.

To be honest, I'm not a *huge* fan of the Model F.  The ping of the springs buckling is both higher pitched and louder, the key effort is lower, and the downward stroke feels less tactile.  The only thing I like about it more than the M is that the tactile click feels exactly the same on the upstroke and the downstroke; the M's upstroke click is very "mushy".  This makes sense, if you think about it - on the M's downstroke, when the spring buckles, it clacks into the side of the barrel.  When it straightens on the upstroke, there's nothing for it to snap into.
 

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Re: F122
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 14:41:47 »
actually I have found my regular M122 quite good enough (and it's much cheaper). For those on a budget, just ignore the F propaganda and buy one of these cheapo M terminals for like $25 shipped. Keyboard is already plenty solid and heavy.

Model F's IMO feel better.

Of course they do. I own some myself. One working XT that I really love. But after months, I still haven't gotten off my ass to fix my F122, and I have a couple others without spacebar, which tells you a lot about how important it is to me to fix my Fs.

M122 already feels good enough to keep using it. It's heaven compared with any scissors switch or chiclet or even alps. So for people who can't afford to pay more, M122 is a serviceable substitute.

I don't believe in the Razer hate propaganda also. Granted, Razer isn't that great. But for someone on a budget faced with a secondhand Filco at $120 shipped, and a secondhand Razer at $50 shipped, I'd say just go with the Razer. The extra $70 difference could mean a week's rent or groceries for some students or in-between job geeks.

It's a pragmatic, value-conscious mentality that isn't fashionable, I know. But not everyone on this site is a top programmer making $200k a year. We've got Vietnamese and Filipino kids who probably make $500 a month or less.

I can take those Model Fs off your hands if you do not plan to fix them.  Just give them to me for free, and I'll pay for shipping.
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Re: F122
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 16:15:13 »


I can take those Model Fs off your hands if you do not plan to fix them.  Just give them to me for free, and I'll pay for shipping.
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How much do you think I spent on these? And you ask me to give them to you for free?

In any case FedExing 14kg of 3 model Fs (estimating 1kg packing material per keyboard) to the United States will be over $500. Even if I were so inclined to give them to you, I doubt you would be keen to pay for shipping.
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Re: F122
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 16:58:58 »
Unless you insist on having an F buckling-spring-over-capacative-contact switch or the ultra-heavy metal backplate, the M122 is just as much of a visually imposing battleship as the F122. 

the ONLY reason to buy an F122 is if you are a super F-purist

To be honest, I'm not a *huge* fan of the Model F.  The ping of the springs buckling is both higher pitched and louder, the key effort is lower, and the downward stroke feels less tactile.

Wow.

Nobody buys an F-122 because it is "visually imposing" they buy it because Fs feel 1000% better than Ms.

I would like nothing more than to have a Model F that looked exactly like a standard Model M, the only reason I bother with the F-122 is because it is the only way to get a near-ANSI experience. An M-122 is a parts donor, in my opinion.

I agree that the sound of the stock F is annoying, that is why all of mine have received the floss mod, padding, and sound exquisite.

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Re: F122
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:26:39 »
I would like nothing more than to have a Model F that looked exactly like a standard Model M, the only reason I bother with the F-122 is because it is the only way to get a near-ANSI experience.

Not the only way.   Modding an AT to near-ansi is pretty simple.
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Re: F122
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:39:45 »
I would like nothing more than to have a Model F that looked exactly like a standard Model M, the only reason I bother with the F-122 is because it is the only way to get a near-ANSI experience.

Not the only way.   Modding an AT to near-ansi is pretty simple.

Except that with the AT, you lose the nav cluster. If you use the cursor arrows AND the number pad, you're forever hitting Num Lock to swap between the two modes. :(
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Re: F122
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 17:44:48 »
Except that with the AT, you lose the nav cluster. If you use the cursor arrows AND the number pad, you're forever hitting Num Lock to swap between the two modes. :(

You what now?



The numpad is for accountants and sociopaths.

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Re: F122
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 18:46:46 »
Except that with the AT, you lose the nav cluster. If you use the cursor arrows AND the number pad, you're forever hitting Num Lock to swap between the two modes. :(

You what now?

The numpad is for accountants and sociopaths.

(And I'm still working on case options for this thing once I get around to it....)

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Re: F122
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 19:10:57 »
I (plan to) use one of my 50-key matrix model Fs as a numberpad AND function keys AND macros.

Also the AT mod requires drilling, etc.  A weekend project that is not exactly simple, like the spring swap of the F122 is. Even still: the hard part is replacing the mat.

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Re: F122
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 19:15:12 »

I've seen a lot of ATs going for around $130 and they looked like they were in decent shape/don't require a teensy.


A user looking for an IBM Model F that he can take out of the box and plug into his computer only has 1 option: the AT.

It is also an efficient, compact, SSK-similar size and shape.


That's why I liked my AT. A couple of adapter and it's up and running. At to that, it's a lot smaller than the F122, not quite SSK, but not an air craft carrier like the 122 is

But that's the joy of the F122.  It's like having a battle station at your command.  A retired World War II battle station that requires some tinkering and elbow grease to work, with your key presses supported by the three layers of steel.  It's the perfect fit for those of us that churn our own butter and raise own sheep for clothing.

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Re: F122
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 19:16:06 »
Except that with the AT, you lose the nav cluster. If you use the cursor arrows AND the number pad, you're forever hitting Num Lock to swap between the two modes. :(

You what now?

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The numpad is for accountants and sociopaths.

(And I'm still working on case options for this thing once I get around to it....)

Oh my God! This is epic. I've been looking for an excuse to get an AT... How hard was it to modify it?
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Re: F122
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 19:40:43 »
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Re: F122
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:16:49 »

The numpad is for accountants and sociopaths.


Contrary to popular belief amongst gamers, lots of regular people work with numbers * A LOT * in the real world.
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Re: F122
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 20:34:07 »

The numpad is for accountants and sociopaths.


Contrary to popular belief amongst gamers, lots of regular people work with numbers * A LOT * in the real world.

I *said* sociopaths, didn't I?

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Re: F122
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 21:18:11 »


I can take those Model Fs off your hands if you do not plan to fix them.  Just give them to me for free, and I'll pay for shipping.

How much do you think I spent on these? And you ask me to give them to you for free?

In any case FedExing 14kg of 3 model Fs (estimating 1kg packing material per keyboard) to the United States will be over $500. Even if I were so inclined to give them to you, I doubt you would be keen to pay for shipping.
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Re: F122
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 21:21:41 »

Oh my God! This is epic. I've been looking for an excuse to get an AT... How hard was it to modify it?

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Re: F122
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 04 March 2014, 23:01:21 »
I have 3 or 4 of this part #. 

Is there really any difference in the 122 key model F part numbers when they look the same? Literally the only difference I see in this one and the other F-122s I have is the part #.

I saw the last one from the same seller sold for over $150.00...  is that to be expected of all model F 122 keys in decent condition?

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Re: F122
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 04:07:38 »
The numpad is for playing Civilization.

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Re: F122
« Reply #35 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 06:37:01 »
I have 3 or 4 of this part #. 

Is there really any difference in the 122 key model F part numbers when they look the same? Literally the only difference I see in this one and the other F-122s I have is the part #.

I saw the last one from the same seller sold for over $150.00...  is that to be expected of all model F 122 keys in decent condition?

DavidB, the prices fluctuate. But Model F122s are generally worth a decent amount.
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Re: F122
« Reply #36 on: Wed, 05 March 2014, 07:33:36 »
Is there really any difference in the 122 key model F part numbers when they look the same? Literally the only difference I see in this one and the other F-122s I have is the part #.
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Re: F122
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 07 March 2014, 19:43:56 »
I have been looking all over the site and I can't find any good information on this:

What do you guys think of the keyboard that came with IBM's 3196 Terminal? From what I have gathered it is a Model f variant. My only hesitation is the fact I already have an aircraft carrier and am not sure if the smaller Model F will be worth my money.
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Re: F122
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 07 March 2014, 20:10:58 »
Not an F, it's an M.
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Re: F122
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 07 March 2014, 20:20:35 »
I have been looking all over the site and I can't find any good information on this:

What do you guys think of the keyboard that came with IBM's 3196 Terminal? From what I have gathered it is a Model f variant. My only hesitation is the fact I already have an aircraft carrier and am not sure if the smaller Model F will be worth my money.

Its a crappy terminal M

F's never came in standard layouts

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Re: F122
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 08 March 2014, 15:00:49 »
I have been looking all over the site and I can't find any good information on this:

What do you guys think of the keyboard that came with IBM's 3196 Terminal? From what I have gathered it is a Model f variant. My only hesitation is the fact I already have an aircraft carrier and am not sure if the smaller Model F will be worth my money.

Its a crappy terminal M

F's never came in standard layouts
Perfect! Thank you for the response.

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