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LZ plate fits
« on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 07:40:23 »
Just assembled my LZ-GH and I noticed that half of my plate was crooked... like the mounting points were way off, have anyone else had this issue with an LZ keyboard?

What do you guys think I should do?


New question does the lz-se plate fit a lz-gh case?
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 08:15:18 »

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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 10:20:29 »
The plate and the PCB line up under the function row?  Or are the switches just temp mounted in the plate?
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 10:34:35 »
The plate and the PCB line up under the function row?  Or are the switches just temp mounted in the plate?
I had to modify some of them to make it work but they still look crooked and some interfere with eachother... Sucks since I payed big$$ to get a working keyboard and the seller didn't inform me of these issues. Should I ask for a partial refund or what do you think I should do?
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 10:48:06 »
someone had a KMAC whose plate was crooked like that. It was replaced, IIRC.

0100010: if you look at it, you can see some of the alignment issues: specifically on F, V, etc.

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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 10:50:19 »
someone had a KMAC whose plate was crooked like that. It was replaced, IIRC.

0100010: if you look at it, you can see some of the alignment issues: specifically on F, V, etc.
problem is that I don't think LZ has these plates anymore

Edit: you can also see the allignment issue easily if you look at the 2 and 3
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 11:55:45 »
Wow that's awful looking. I can't believe this plate is so jacked up. Is it bent or is that just a poor cut? How does this even happen on a laser cut? Those things are accurate to 10 micrometers usually. Are you sure you have those switches seated in there good enough? I'd start with the switches then work my way up. I have some alignment issues on my filco TKL that I desolder and resoldered MX clears. It's causing clearance problems with the arrow keys. I'm sure it's my screwup because it wasn't like that before. I need to desolder and resolder them to see if I can fix it. There is some tolerance / play in the switches when they're mounted on the plate.
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 01 November 2014, 12:01:35 »

Wow that's awful looking. I can't believe this plate is so jacked up. Is it bent or is that just a poor cut? How does this even happen on a laser cut? Those things are accurate to 10 micrometers usually. Are you sure you have those switches seated in there good enough? I'd start with the switches then work my way up. I have some alignment issues on my filco TKL that I desolder and resoldered MX clears. It's causing clearance problems with the arrow keys. I'm sure it's my screwup because it wasn't like that before. I need to desolder and resolder them to see if I can fix it. There is some tolerance / play in the switches when they're mounted on the plate.
Yeah it's the cutting in the plate unfortunately, I noticed it in the beggining but I thought it was supposed to be that way:/ Looks like I need to contact lz about a new plate but I doubt he Will have a new one :/
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 10:42:15 »
Hmm does it classify as an ergonomical keyboard now?  :rolleyes:

Also trying to get in contact with both LZ and boost (seller)
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:06:28 »
That's really odd.

I think I've seen it happen a few times in Kustoms, not just the LZGH. It's probably something that happens in shipping.
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:08:14 »
That's really odd.

I think I've seen it happen a few times in Kustoms, not just the LZGH. It's probably something that happens in shipping.
No, something like this can't happen in shipping (if it's like that KMAC plate) I think it happens if someone bumps the laser halfway through.

Edit: It was halverson's KMAC. Check out the carnage:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38348.0

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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:15:09 »
Different issue than I thought then.

More tag that pic, it's disgusting.
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:24:29 »
Dunno if this captures the issue completely but the market switches are the one with dislocation, exactly the same as dorkvader is talking about, easier to notice if you zoom in!
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:25:20 »
Different issue than I thought then.

More tag that pic, it's disgusting.
I was gonna but halvy didn't so I ain't either!

Anyway, if it's a similar issue to that KMAC plate, then it'd cause the same issue and certainly isn't shipping damage.

If the LZGH used aluminium plates, I'd just get a better one made out of steel. I'm thinking about doing that with my skeldon.

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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:27:57 »
That's really odd.

I think I've seen it happen a few times in Kustoms, not just the LZGH. It's probably something that happens in shipping.
No, something like this can't happen in shipping (if it's like that KMAC plate) I think it happens if someone bumps the laser halfway through.

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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:29:17 »
Different issue than I thought then.

More tag that pic, it's disgusting.
I was gonna but halvy didn't so I ain't either!

Anyway, if it's a similar issue to that KMAC plate, then it'd cause the same issue and certainly isn't shipping damage.

If the LZGH used aluminium plates, I'd just get a better one made out of steel. I'm thinking about doing that with my skeldon.

Speaking of making things, where are the pics of my Dolch!?

ahem.

I think the LZGH is an Alu plate. I'd have to check, but I think that's right.
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:30:24 »
Different issue than I thought then.

More tag that pic, it's disgusting.
I was gonna but halvy didn't so I ain't either!

Anyway, if it's a similar issue to that KMAC plate, then it'd cause the same issue and certainly isn't shipping damage.

If the LZGH used aluminium plates, I'd just get a better one made out of steel. I'm thinking about doing that with my skeldon.

Speaking of making things, where are the pics of my Dolch!?

ahem.

I think the LZGH is an Alu plate. I'd have to check, but I think that's right.
it is indeed alu
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 11:31:50 »

That's really odd.

I think I've seen it happen a few times in Kustoms, not just the LZGH. It's probably something that happens in shipping.
No, something like this can't happen in shipping (if it's like that KMAC plate) I think it happens if someone bumps the laser halfway through.

Edit: It was halverson's KMAC. Check out the carnage:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38348.0
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I still have that plate :)

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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 12:31:36 »
If anything see if LZ has the laser cutting file and you can cut your own. I don't know about you but I have some connections that easily cut it given the file.

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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 02 November 2014, 13:26:11 »
Yeah I still need to get in contact with either boost or LZ. Just have to wait!
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 16:08:47 »
That's really odd.

I think I've seen it happen a few times in Kustoms, not just the LZGH. It's probably something that happens in shipping.
No, something like this can't happen in shipping (if it's like that KMAC plate) I think it happens if someone bumps the laser halfway through.

Edit: It was halverson's KMAC. Check out the carnage:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38348.0
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Depending on the size of the machine bumping it could cause the issue but if it is a large machine (that can accept 4x8 sheets) you would have to bump it with a forklift. The bottom line is the material was moved while it was being machined.

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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 17:39:58 »
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 18:04:36 »
Just assembled my LZ-GH and I noticed that half of my plate was crooked... like the mounting points were way off, have anyone else had this issue with an LZ keyboard?

What do you guys think I should do?

I've modded 2 LZ-GH keyboards and have not encountered this--everything fit perfectly.
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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 03 November 2014, 18:19:33 »

That's really odd.

I think I've seen it happen a few times in Kustoms, not just the LZGH. It's probably something that happens in shipping.
No, something like this can't happen in shipping (if it's like that KMAC plate) I think it happens if someone bumps the laser halfway through.

Edit: It was halverson's KMAC. Check out the carnage:
http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=38348.0
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Wow  :-X

I still have that plate :)

Time for Gon's KMAC pcb and polycarb plate!

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Re: LZ-GH quality issues
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 03:11:27 »
Just assembled my LZ-GH and I noticed that half of my plate was crooked... like the mounting points were way off, have anyone else had this issue with an LZ keyboard?

What do you guys think I should do?

I've modded 2 LZ-GH keyboards and have not encountered this--everything fit perfectly.
The lasering is the issue afaik, still got no contact with LZ tho, thinking of modding the plate to a 356.2 style
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Re: LZ plate fits
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 03:58:57 »
update
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Re: LZ plate fits
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 07:57:20 »
That's some trick or treat **** right there. Halloween at its finest.   :eek:
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Re: LZ plate fits
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 04 November 2014, 07:59:52 »
I'm no expert but it definitely looks like it should line up!