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Re: NOW OPEN SOURCE!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2150 on: Tue, 19 June 2018, 09:39:18 »
In curly brackets right before the legend (which is in quotes), separated by a comma. If you could post your KLE, I could show you exactly how to do it.

Sweet thanks, here's my bottom row

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[{w:1.25},"Ctrl",{w:1.25},"Win",{w:1.25},"Alt",{a:7,w:6.25},"",{a:4,w:1.25},"Alt",{w:1.25},"Win",{w:1.25},"Menu",{w:1.25},"Ctrl"]
I want to not only flip the spacebar stabs, but also keep the default so in case I find a PCB that has the other orientation I can still keep using the same plate.
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Re: NOW OPEN SOURCE!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2151 on: Tue, 19 June 2018, 10:31:43 »
In curly brackets right before the legend (which is in quotes), separated by a comma. If you could post your KLE, I could show you exactly how to do it.

Sweet thanks, here's my bottom row

Code: [Select]
[{w:1.25},"Ctrl",{w:1.25},"Win",{w:1.25},"Alt",{a:7,w:6.25},"",{a:4,w:1.25},"Alt",{w:1.25},"Win",{w:1.25},"Menu",{w:1.25},"Ctrl"]
I want to not only flip the spacebar stabs, but also keep the default so in case I find a PCB that has the other orientation I can still keep using the same plate.

It is easy to flip the spacebar stabilizer with {a:7,w:6.25,_rs:180},"".  While it is possible to have two different stabilizer cutouts by superimposing two keys on top of each other (http://builder-docs.swillkb.com/pro-tips/#support-multiple-layouts), I definitely would not recommend it.  If you have more than one stabilizer configuration for a specific key, then neither stabilizer will click in correctly and is likely to move around.  I would strongly recommend that you only have one stabilizer configuration per key.

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Re: NOW OPEN SOURCE!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2152 on: Tue, 19 June 2018, 10:56:09 »
In curly brackets right before the legend (which is in quotes), separated by a comma. If you could post your KLE, I could show you exactly how to do it.

Sweet thanks, here's my bottom row

Code: [Select]
[{w:1.25},"Ctrl",{w:1.25},"Win",{w:1.25},"Alt",{a:7,w:6.25},"",{a:4,w:1.25},"Alt",{w:1.25},"Win",{w:1.25},"Menu",{w:1.25},"Ctrl"]
I want to not only flip the spacebar stabs, but also keep the default so in case I find a PCB that has the other orientation I can still keep using the same plate.

It is easy to flip the spacebar stabilizer with {a:7,w:6.25,_rs:180},"".  While it is possible to have two different stabilizer cutouts by superimposing two keys on top of each other (http://builder-docs.swillkb.com/pro-tips/#support-multiple-layouts), I definitely would not recommend it.  If you have more than one stabilizer configuration for a specific key, then neither stabilizer will click in correctly and is likely to move around.  I would strongly recommend that you only have one stabilizer configuration per key.

That is a very good point. Do you think I'd have issues even with screw in stabs?
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Re: NOW OPEN SOURCE!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2153 on: Tue, 19 June 2018, 10:58:05 »
In curly brackets right before the legend (which is in quotes), separated by a comma. If you could post your KLE, I could show you exactly how to do it.

Sweet thanks, here's my bottom row

Code: [Select]
[{w:1.25},"Ctrl",{w:1.25},"Win",{w:1.25},"Alt",{a:7,w:6.25},"",{a:4,w:1.25},"Alt",{w:1.25},"Win",{w:1.25},"Menu",{w:1.25},"Ctrl"]
I want to not only flip the spacebar stabs, but also keep the default so in case I find a PCB that has the other orientation I can still keep using the same plate.

It is easy to flip the spacebar stabilizer with {a:7,w:6.25,_rs:180},"".  While it is possible to have two different stabilizer cutouts by superimposing two keys on top of each other (http://builder-docs.swillkb.com/pro-tips/#support-multiple-layouts), I definitely would not recommend it.  If you have more than one stabilizer configuration for a specific key, then neither stabilizer will click in correctly and is likely to move around.  I would strongly recommend that you only have one stabilizer configuration per key.

That is a very good point. Do you think I'd have issues even with screw in stabs?

If you are using PCB mount stabilizers, you should be fine.  I was thinking specifically for plate mounted stabilizers.

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Re: NOW OPEN SOURCE!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2154 on: Thu, 21 June 2018, 10:12:20 »
Thank you very much!

Another question, when opened up in LibreCad and saved in the 2007 file format, the measurements are actually 94.92mm by 285.37 instead of 95.252 mm by 285.752 mm on the swillkb website. This is when creating a pok3r plate. What is the correct measurement?
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Re: NOW OPEN SOURCE!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2155 on: Thu, 21 June 2018, 12:23:22 »
Thank you very much!

Another question, when opened up in LibreCad and saved in the 2007 file format, the measurements are actually 94.92mm by 285.37 instead of 95.252 mm by 285.752 mm on the swillkb website. This is when creating a pok3r plate. What is the correct measurement?

I would have to look into that one.  It could be that kerf is messing with my calculation on the site, but I would expect it to be consistent in terms of how the two numbers are different in both dimensions, so that doesn't seem like it would be the case.   

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Re: NOW OPEN SOURCE!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2156 on: Thu, 21 June 2018, 12:28:37 »
Thank you very much!

Another question, when opened up in LibreCad and saved in the 2007 file format, the measurements are actually 94.92mm by 285.37 instead of 95.252 mm by 285.752 mm on the swillkb website. This is when creating a pok3r plate. What is the correct measurement?

I would have to look into that one.  It could be that kerf is messing with my calculation on the site, but I would expect it to be consistent in terms of how the two numbers are different in both dimensions, so that doesn't seem like it would be the case.   

Are you use custom polygons at all?  Do any of them overlap the outer edge of the plate?  I am wondering if I am not updating the bounds correctly (how I calculate the width and height) after the final operations (ie: cut | add) on the custom polygons.  I will have to dig into this a bit.  Anything special you were doing?

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Re: NOW OPEN SOURCE!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2157 on: Thu, 21 June 2018, 12:52:31 »
As a test this is what I did, and I got the same results

1. Load 60% default on KLE
2. Copy and paste RAW into swillkb
3. Choose Pok3r
4. MX switch with cutouts and Cherry stabs ONLY
5. Change plate corner to 2 mm
6. Draw CAD and download .dxf
7. Open up dxf in latest LibreCad and save in DXF 2007 file format after verifying that units are in mm.
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Re: NOW OPEN SOURCE!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2158 on: Thu, 21 June 2018, 12:56:54 »
As a test this is what I did, and I got the same results

1. Load 60% default on KLE
2. Copy and paste RAW into swillkb
3. Choose Pok3r
4. MX switch with cutouts and Cherry stabs ONLY
5. Change plate corner to 2 mm
6. Draw CAD and download .dxf
7. Open up dxf in latest LibreCad and save in DXF 2007 file format after verifying that units are in mm.
Cool. I will give it a shot to see what I can come up with. Thanks for describing the steps to reproduce.

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Re: ORDER NOW!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2159 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 01:04:12 »
Hope you don't mind me asking but how did you find shipito? Read some pretty bad reviews for them but I am aware that with any big companies, there's going to be some bad reviews. Currently I've been using viabox - mainly because their shipping fees are so cheap. But it's always good to have other options.

Sorry I missed this, yeah Shipito was pretty good, no issues, tho I got 4 wheels via them, and one of the wheels was slightly bumped during shipping, I never got the issue solved, but I blame DHL, as I've opened a claim, but their claim process is designed to lock the customer in a loop of no result, I repeatedly tried but couldn't learn the result of the claim - so small unrelated information, if you ever get something damaged in shipping, you're doomed

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I've been looking for a new project, and I decided to make it a Swillkb+Lasergist one, it's going to be a modified 60%, can't decide whether to use a PCB or hand-wire it

I really like the new "Top Layer"ed design, on paper, any actual build photos using the design? Searched quickly but came up empty
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Re: NOW OPEN SOURCE!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2160 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 03:17:28 »

I've been looking for a new project, and I decided to make it a Swillkb+Lasergist one, it's going to be a modified 60%, can't decide whether to use a PCB or hand-wire it

I really like the new "Top Layer"ed design, on paper, any actual build photos using the design? Searched quickly but came up empty



Here’s one I built with top layers. They’re 1/8 inch steel plates and they come pretty close the the perfect height.

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Re: NOW OPEN SOURCE!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2161 on: Thu, 12 July 2018, 05:22:48 »
Wow, thanks for sharing, that's incredible, nice screw cutouts/inlets too

I was wondering how just 2 middle layers, 4.5mm counting the plate layer, could be enough to get all those components inside, now I see that it's intended to be used with standoffs

Probably if the middle layer sizes could be increased for Lasergist, it could work without the standoffs too

For me the ideal height is as close to the desk as possible - on the other hand - there seems to be a good collection of M3 standoffs in Aliexpress too

Edit: Wow, discovered this now: http://builder-docs.swillkb.com/features/#custom-polygons - We didn't have such features and documentation back in the day :)
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Re: NOW OPEN SOURCE!!! swill's plate building tool [builder.swillkb.com]
« Reply #2162 on: Wed, 18 July 2018, 03:00:30 »
Feedback

I was like, daaamn, how's lasergist so cheap, 5 plate pieces for $66, incredible

Turns out, when you get an on-site quote for lasergist manufacturing for a sandwich case, the default quantities for plates other than the switch layer are 0, I think they should be 1, $228 is more like it, I wouldn't want my custom to be that cheap (!) :)

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Edit: Is there a way to easily extend a Poker 60% plate's "Edge Paddings" - Currently that option is only for Sandwich cases, but I like to add 1-2mm of extra spaces to my Poker 60% plates so they fill the cases more evenly, back in the day, used to do this manually, but I just want to order a plate from Lasergist now

Edit 2: It seems possible from Javascript Console with: `oldf=submit_draw_form`+`function submit_draw_form(){ data['top-padding']=10; oldf(); }` - The default ~-0.1875 paddings can be overwritten
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