Kiibohd 10 - Bay Area Monthly Keyboard Meetup - 2014/12/06

[HaaTa]

Another month, another meetup
This time a bit closer to South Bay.

samwisekoi has offered to host at 724support.com 
Same place that Keycon West 2014 was hosted at this summer.

December 6th 2014 @ 1 PM

Address

724support.com
Stand Sure Systems
1077B Independence Ave
Mountain View, CA 94043

San Antonio is the closest Caltrain station.


jwaz has been asking me for probably a year now about doing a presentation on keyboard protocols (and reverse engineering) so I thought I'd make that the focus of this meetup.
I'll make a small presentation as well as some demos.

I have all the tools necessary, but if anyone has a more portable oscilloscope (mine is an old analog one) that would be amazing.
Some of the tools I'll need to do a proper demo

• Breadboard /w assortment of wires, connectors, and resistors
• Teensy 2/3 (I prefer to do all new code on ARM microcontrollers)
• Logic Analyzer (I'll be bringing a Salae Logic 8 )
• Variable power supply (in case the keyboard has a greater than 5V input voltage)
• Multimeter (with continuity)
• Soldering iron and basic soldering tools if things get interesting
• Oscilloscope for the early reverse engineering

I'll be using a computer with Arch Linux. USB HID debugging is *way* easier with Linux.
Windows has tools available, but setup is annoying.
Mac OSX is basically the worst as you have to buy expensive tools to debug properly (though you can get some things after installing some devtools from Apple).

Haven't decided which protocols I'll demo, but I'll take suggestions (if I have the keyboard, and I can get it working before the meetup).


Please RSVP if you plan to attend.


(GeekHack mod, please sticky this topic and un-sticky the old meetup thread)

[CPTBadAss]

Haata, can you please make that presentation available on YouTube or another video service? I'd love to see that.

[Firebolt1914]

Same here, I too would love to see taht

[sadbox]

I can prolly bring the oscope (rigol ds1102e).

[nuclearsandwich]

I'll be there!

[HoffmanMyster]

If you guys pay for my plane ticket I'll be there!   )

Seriously jealous of the monthly meetups you guys run out there.

[nuclearsandwich]

If you guys pay for my plane ticket I'll be there!   )

Seriously jealous of the monthly meetups you guys run out there.

The bay area nerd-per-capita is at times a blessing... and at times, a horrible, horrible curse.

[compgeke]

I can most likely come - my mom and brother can go check out the CHM.

I also have an oscilloscope I can bring - a Tek TDS684B. It has VGA out for projector or whatnot, I just have one probe so if you have more probes it would probably work better.
Multiple scopes is never a bad thing though.

[jwaz]

YES. So stoked this. I will (of course) be there!

and I'm sure we can snag some video of the presentation ala samwisekoi's studio gear or whoever brings a camera.

EDIT: Tools I can bring:

Fluke Multimeter
Teensy 2
Buspirate

[samwisekoi]

Haata, can you please make that presentation available on YouTube or another video service? I'd love to see that.

I plan to do what actually worked at KeyCon West.  Video the presentation(s) and then post them on YouTube.  None of this streaming stuff that was hard to do, got blocked by some yahoo, and didn't end up with us having archival footage.

So, I will set up a video camera in the conference room, record the presentation(s), and then put it or them up on YouTube.  I'll probably rope someone into doing a walk-around with a camera so we can also post a video showing everyone's collections.

See you all then!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

[CPTBadAss]

I plan to do what actually worked at KeyCon West.  Video the presentation(s) and then post them on YouTube.  None of this streaming stuff that was hard to do, got blocked by some yahoo, and didn't end up with us having archival footage.

So, I will set up a video camera in the conference room, record the presentation(s), and then put it or them up on YouTube.

Thanks Ron!!

I'll probably rope someone into doing a walk-around with a camera so we can also post a video showing everyone's collections.

I wish I could be there to do CPTBadCAM^TM .

[samwisekoi]

I wish I could be there to do CPTBadCAM^TM .

Sorry, mate.  Who we need is Hoffman "the human tripod" Myster!  He was great!

[CPTBadAss]

Who we need is Hoffman "human tripod" Myster!  He was great!

We can't be friends anymore

[samwisekoi]

Who we need is Hoffman "the human tripod" Myster!  He was great!

We can't be friends anymore

Again, sorry.  You and I are in the first row, with the tall people behind us.  And still HoffmanMyster can video the table in front of us without difficulty.  It is some sort of innate skill he has.

(For those who haven't met him in person, HoffmanMyster is tall.  Very tall!)

[CPTBadAss]

And still HoffmanMyster can video the table in front of us without difficulty.  It is some sort of innate skill he has.

Ohhhh I see. Ok I retract my statement before then . Hoff's innate skill is magical.

[dorkvader]

Haven't decided which protocols I'll demo, but I'll take suggestions (if I have the keyboard, and I can get it working before the meetup).

since melvang and I now both have one, the sanyo MBC1000 would be awesome. I think I can get compatible jacks since the plug is based on a 0.1" pin pitch still widely available today.

Since this is a very useful skill for GH'ers in general, I would be very interested in seeing the video and slides when done. hopefully we can get up a group of people with lots of time to be able to convert more things.

If you guys pay for my plane ticket I'll be there!   )

Seriously jealous of the monthly meetups you guys run out there.

I want to start organizing regular meetups for the Boston area with Ming.

[nuclearsandwich]

Haven't decided which protocols I'll demo, but I'll take suggestions (if I have the keyboard, and I can get it working before the meetup).

since melvang and I now both have one, the sanyo MBC1000 would be awesome. I think I can get compatible jacks since the plug is based on a 0.1" pin pitch still widely available today.

Since this is a very useful skill for GH'ers in general, I would be very interested in seeing the video and slides when done. hopefully we can get up a group of people with lots of time to be able to convert more things.

If you guys pay for my plane ticket I'll be there!   )

Seriously jealous of the monthly meetups you guys run out there.

I want to start organizing regular meetups for the Boston area with Ming.

Wait what happened between Keycon and now that puts Ming in Boston? How long was I out?

[HoffmanMyster]

Wait what happened between Keycon and now that puts Ming in Boston? How long was I out?

He got a job in Boston and moved there to avoid the 2,591 mile commute. 

[Smasher816]

See you all in 31 days.

[travvy]

I'll be there

[obra]

I'll be there

[jwaz]

I'll be there

With the latest model keyboard.io?

[HaaTa]

FYI, 1 week away

[Smasher816]

November has flown by fast.

[samwisekoi]

One week from today!

FYI, I'll take a video of the things people bring to the meet-up, and then whatever presentation(s) happen in the conference room.  All of that will go up on YouTube on a channel TBD.

With any luck the JD45 prototype PCBs will arrive by then.  If so, I'll try to videotape a live build as well.  Also, if the hoped-for reverse-engineering session happens, I'll capture that as well.

See you all there!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

p.s.  New pinball game is there now:  Star Trek Pro (Stern, 2013)

[Sniping]

I'm going to show up again too

[codyeatworld]

I'll be there

Finally got my car back and feeling better!

Also really hoping the reverse engineering happens!

[Heliosphere]

I'll try to be there!

[Input Nirvana]

Niiiiice.
Keyboard meet up at Rons with out all the "flatlanders" that attended Keycon?
Cali-Boyz in the house!

[radio_killah]

I will hopefully be there. This one is much easier to get to since I work just up the road! Is finding parking easy around the building?

[Sniping]

I will hopefully be there. This one is much easier to get to since I work just up the road! Is finding parking easy around the building?

There's a pretty big parking lot up front and the meet is on a saturday so I think you'll be good.

[kprav33n]

I'm a newbie on this forum, and I'm planning to attend this one.

[Heliosphere]

I'm a newbie on this forum, and I'm planning to attend this one.

It should be fun! I've been to several already and you get to see and try out all kinds of keyboards and meet some cool and brilliant people.

[radio_killah]

Looks like we will have a good amount of people there tomorrow. Pretty excited!

[nuclearsandwich]

It's looking like I'll have to work tomorrow afternoon so I'll be there but clacking not so quietly in the back.

[Smasher816]

It's a good thing it's at 1. I need to get some sleep tonight

[compgeke]

Hrm, there's a chance I might not be there now.

Despite multiple times of saying we're busy this weekend we just had to schedule Comcast to come tomorrow morning between 8 and 10.

[kprav33n]

I'm a newbie on this forum, and I'm planning to attend this one.

It should be fun! I've been to several already and you get to see and try out all kinds of keyboards and meet some cool and brilliant people.

That would definitely be fun! Looking forward for it.

[compgeke]

Random question:

Providing I can make it tomorrow does anyone have a full size MX Blue or Brown board they would be willing to trade for a slightly dusty Model F 122? Looking to get my mom one as a christmas present since the stupid rubbercrap keeps dying.

[radio_killah]

Random question:

Providing I can make it tomorrow does anyone have a full size MX Blue or Brown board they would be willing to trade for a slightly dusty Model F 122? Looking to get my mom one as a christmas present since the stupid rubbercrap keeps dying.

Might want to get a new one if its for your mom. Never know what happens to some mechs behind closed doors. 

[Sniping]

I have a last minute request as well: can someone bring in a blue alps keyboard for me? I want to compare it with the switches on my Dinokidz keyboard.

[Heliosphere]

I'll be bringing these keyboards unless someone has them covered: Model M, Model F PC-AT, Apple M0115 with orange Alps, Realforce 87U 45g EK, Realforce 87U 55g.

[samwisekoi]

Random question:

Providing I can make it tomorrow does anyone have a full size MX Blue or Brown board they would be willing to trade for a slightly dusty Model F 122? Looking to get my mom one as a christmas present since the stupid rubbercrap keeps dying.

Might want to get a new one if its for your mom. Never know what happens to some mechs behind closed doors. 

I would have been completely down with this trade.

Except my '85 F-122 arrived yesterday.   

You should bring yours asyhow!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

[nuclearsandwich]

All I am bringing is a Tex Yoda with Desko trackpoint doubleshots because I am biking to this adventure.

[jwaz]

Random question:

Providing I can make it tomorrow does anyone have a full size MX Blue or Brown board they would be willing to trade for a slightly dusty Model F 122? Looking to get my mom one as a christmas present since the stupid rubbercrap keeps dying.

Might want to get a new one if its for your mom. Never know what happens to some mechs behind closed doors. 

I would have been completely down with this trade.

Except my '85 F-122 arrived yesterday.   

You should bring yours asyhow!

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.

You should do the trade anyway and give me the extra 122 

[MOZ]

Can't wait to see the presentation by HaaTa.

[samwisekoi]

And the meeting has begun.  I've got video set up for HaaTa's demo and then presentation.  We may also possibly capture a build or two.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[Input Nirvana]

AAAHHHH!!!!!!! I'm on my WAYYYYYYY!!!!!

[samwisekoi]

90-minute talk by HaaTa captured.  That will be followed by a hands-on demo with live (er, undead?) ur-keyboards.

Both will get rendered and uploaded ASAP, but ASAP != instantly.

 - Ron | samwisekoi

[samwisekoi]

New GeekHack YouTube channel is set up.  (Well, basically set up.)

GeekHack TV
http://tinyurl.com/geekhacktv

Anyhow, the first part of HaaTa's presentation is there:

list=UUoZsPBPhhDBEiLKEDHiw_Kg

More as they render.

 - Ron | samwisekoi
Sig auto-typed by my GH36 LH keypad.