Author Topic: Kinda regretting lubing cherry mx reds FML (Read 7442 times)

Hellcatz · « **on:** Thu, 25 December 2014, 19:25:01 »

So first time lubing after spending so many hours un-soldering, lubing, and re-soldering my keyboard I find I don't find my keyboard attractive to type on anymore. Its feels sluggish and has a slow reflex Prob goofed and applied to much or might get a heavier spring. Thoughts on a fix? used https://ctrlalt.io/ thin lube

SpAmRaY · « **Reply #1 on:** Thu, 25 December 2014, 19:47:27 »

You only need a very small amount of lube.

Hellcatz · « **Reply #2 on:** Thu, 25 December 2014, 19:50:51 »

feels a lot like typing on membrane keys

dante · « **Reply #3 on:** Thu, 25 December 2014, 19:51:25 »

Can't wait to try some Gateron's - I hear they are very smooth out of the box.

Hellcatz · « **Reply #4 on:** Thu, 25 December 2014, 19:52:55 »

some wat?

hwood34 · « **Reply #5 on:** Thu, 25 December 2014, 19:54:30 »

Quote from: Hellcatz on Thu, 25 December 2014, 19:52:55

some wat?

They're a newer cherry mx clone

Hellcatz · « **Reply #6 on:** Thu, 25 December 2014, 20:25:55 »

buying them is prob out of the question then

dante · « **Reply #7 on:** Thu, 25 December 2014, 20:30:37 »

Quote from: Hellcatz on Thu, 25 December 2014, 20:25:55

buying them is prob out of the question then

There is a Gateron switch tester up on Mass Drop now. There was a hint dropped that if enough interest develops that switches may be offered for sale.

Hellcatz · « **Reply #8 on:** Thu, 25 December 2014, 20:32:46 »

pretty expensive for just testers but then again I did spend 350 for a gon keyboard that Im going to build

swill · « **Reply #9 on:** Thu, 25 December 2014, 20:56:11 »

Give it a week or two before you do anything. I had a similar problem with MX clears and a bit of usage helped a lot. I was lucky enough to have a plate where I could open the switches, so I did switch from 62g to 65g, but the still felt sluggish for a week or so. They got better with some wear though.

Hellcatz · « **Reply #10 on:** Thu, 25 December 2014, 21:03:31 »

I hate plate mounted keyboards!!! After yesterday I have new found hate for em

swill · « **Reply #11 on:** Thu, 25 December 2014, 21:23:13 »

Quote from: Hellcatz on Thu, 25 December 2014, 21:03:31

I hate plate mounted keyboards!!! After yesterday I have new found hate for em

Just get a plate you can open the switches on.

don't hate the plate, hate the boso company that gave you a ****ty one.

honoka · « **Reply #12 on:** Fri, 26 December 2014, 15:11:59 »

Getting a custom plate isn't that easy though. I wish I hade a bunch. Soldering fumes has made me stupid

OP! As suggested, give the lube some time. If it doesn't clear up and still feels sluggish after a while I then consider desoldering and fitting a heavier spring. Or buy new red switches. Worst case.

Hellcatz · « **Reply #13 on:** Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:31:13 »

Whats the purpose if the plate anyway? My guess is that it is used to protect the pcb from rubbish

Puddsy · « **Reply #14 on:** Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:35:55 »

Quote from: Hellcatz on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:31:13

Whats the purpose if the plate anyway? My guess is that it is used to protect the pcb from rubbish

Mount switches straight. It does a better job of it than the PCB mount holes.

Hellcatz · « **Reply #15 on:** Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:42:56 »

THATS IT? for that much hassle?

Photekq · « **Reply #16 on:** Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:47:15 »

Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:35:55

Quote from: Hellcatz on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:31:13
Whats the purpose if the plate anyway? My guess is that it is used to protect the pcb from rubbish

Mount switches straight. It does a better job of it than the PCB mount holes.

That's not what it's for. Plates don't mount the switches any straighter than PCB mount holes.

It makes the switches more stable, as it holds them rigidly in place. It stops any kind of flex you would have while the switches are just mounted on a PCB. It of course makes the board more heavy and 'solid feeling' too.

Puddsy · « **Reply #17 on:** Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:48:38 »

Quote from: Hellcatz on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:42:56

THATS IT? for that much hassle?

You're not exactly supposed to be opening these things. There's a reason it voids your warranty.

Quote from: Photekq on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:47:15

Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:35:55
Quote from: Hellcatz on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:31:13
Whats the purpose if the plate anyway? My guess is that it is used to protect the pcb from rubbish

Mount switches straight. It does a better job of it than the PCB mount holes.
That's not what it's for. Plates don't mount the switches any straighter than PCB mount holes.

It makes the switches more stable, as it holds them rigidly in place. It stops any kind of flex you would have while the switches are just mounted on a PCB. It of course makes the board more heavy and 'solid feeling' too.

Yeah that too I guess

I've never noticed a huge difference.

Hellcatz · « **Reply #18 on:** Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:51:08 »

warranty was meant to be voided!!!

Photekq · « **Reply #19 on:** Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:52:22 »

Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:48:38

Yeah that too I guess

I've never noticed a huge difference.

I'm surprised. I think there's a large difference in feel between plate and PCB mount boards. I could definitely distinguish between the two by feel alone.

It's not 'that too'. It's 'only that'. Really, switches mounted just on a PCB will mount perfectly straight, so long as the switches have the two extra plastic pins and so long as the holes are the correct size on the PCB [I have encountered one PCB where they were too big, and they could potentially be mounted a bit off-center].

Hellcatz · « **Reply #20 on:** Fri, 26 December 2014, 19:04:17 »

I guess I will find out the difference when I finish building my keyboard

Puddsy · « **Reply #21 on:** Fri, 26 December 2014, 19:06:36 »

I've seen some odd alignment issues with PCB mount boards.

I dunno, I've had a lot of weird experiences with older boards.

berserkfan · « **Reply #22 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 00:08:20 »

Quote from: Hellcatz on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:51:08

warranty was meant to be voided!!!

You can't claim to be a real gher until you void the warranty on everything electronic you own (except for maybe the hard disk).

I'm certainly not a real gher, since I have not tried repairing my TV or handphone before.

Puddsy · « **Reply #23 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 00:52:55 »

Quote from: berserkfan on Sat, 27 December 2014, 00:08:20

Quote from: Hellcatz on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:51:08
warranty was meant to be voided!!!

You can't claim to be a real gher until you void the warranty on everything electronic you own (except for maybe the hard disk).

I'm certainly not a real gher, since I have not tried repairing my TV or handphone before.

Warranty on my mattress is void, can confirm.

berserkfan · « **Reply #24 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 02:05:54 »

Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 27 December 2014, 00:52:55

Quote from: berserkfan on Sat, 27 December 2014, 00:08:20
Quote from: Hellcatz on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:51:08
warranty was meant to be voided!!!

You can't claim to be a real gher until you void the warranty on everything electronic you own (except for maybe the hard disk).

I'm certainly not a real gher, since I have not tried repairing my TV or handphone before.

Warranty on my mattress is void, can confirm.

You took apart your mattress? For what?

Don't tell me you decided to put the springs in your Topre?

sorijealut · « **Reply #25 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 02:06:42 »

Lube up(?) those mattress springs!

I wonder the what's the force of actuation required on those!

rowdy · « **Reply #26 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 03:20:12 »

Quote from: TacticalStache on Sat, 27 December 2014, 00:52:55

Quote from: berserkfan on Sat, 27 December 2014, 00:08:20
Quote from: Hellcatz on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:51:08
warranty was meant to be voided!!!

You can't claim to be a real gher until you void the warranty on everything electronic you own (except for maybe the hard disk).

I'm certainly not a real gher, since I have not tried repairing my TV or handphone before.

Warranty on my mattress is void, can confirm.

You have an electronic mattress?

Hellcatz · « **Reply #27 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 12:19:38 »

Mattress keyboard?

Findecanor · « **Reply #28 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 12:43:02 »

If you've never woken up with a keyboard imprint on your face, you have never really slept.

Hellcatz · « **Reply #29 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 13:38:19 »

Does banging my head against one count?

rowdy · « **Reply #30 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 17:52:11 »

Does banging a keyboard against someone else's head count?

Hellcatz · « **Reply #31 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:14:16 »

Sure use my poker! It has some heft to it so it make a better imprint

sorijealut · « **Reply #32 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:24:16 »

Model Mattress

Hellcatz · « **Reply #33 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:27:58 »

Quote from: sorijealut on Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:24:16

Model Mattress

I get what your getting at but i prefer to have a real model as a mattress

sorijealut · « **Reply #34 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:33:51 »

Quote from: Hellcatz on Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:27:58

Quote from: sorijealut on Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:24:16
Model Mattress

I get what your getting at but i prefer to have a real model as a mattress

Can't argue with that one.

noisyturtle · « **Reply #35 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:37:59 »

You're crazy. Lubed reds are God Tier switches, dare I say better than Topre?!?

Hellcatz · « **Reply #36 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:40:57 »

As I said I might have screwed up

noisyturtle · « **Reply #37 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:43:51 »

Quote from: Hellcatz on Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:40:57

As I said I might have screwed up

Ohh, too much lube? Well you can clean it off with rubbing alcohol and q-tips, but again, it's extremely tedious. Switch work is usually tedious

That's when you hire someone else!

sorijealut · « **Reply #38 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:44:36 »

Dirty deeds ~

done dirt cheap!

Hellcatz · « **Reply #39 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:45:44 »

Born Asian Born Cheap

dorkvader · « **Reply #40 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 19:46:24 »

Quote from: TacticalStache on Fri, 26 December 2014, 18:48:38

Yeah that too I guess

I've never noticed a huge difference.

Less of a difference on eg a poker, but g80-8113 is floppy.

Some boards that done have a in switch LED or diode I think are bad PCB mount. Stabilizing the front of the switch with something is very important.

Quote from: noisyturtle on Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:43:51

Quote from: Hellcatz on Sat, 27 December 2014, 18:40:57
As I said I might have screwed up

Ohh, too much lube? Well you can clean it off with rubbing alcohol and q-tips, but again, it's extremely tedious. Switch work is usually tedious

That's when you hire someone else!

Isopropanol does noting to krytox. All about those q-tips though.

Hellcatz · « **Reply #41 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 19:55:36 »

def not looking forward to unsoldering all those led and switches

Joebroniee · « **Reply #42 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 20:06:34 »

Quote from: Hellcatz on Sat, 27 December 2014, 19:55:36

def not looking forward to unsoldering all those led and switches

DO IT! lol

Hellcatz · « **Reply #43 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 20:16:53 »

not now

Joebroniee · « **Reply #44 on:** Sat, 27 December 2014, 20:39:52 »

i know, just trying to motivate you in a way...peer pressure.

honoka · « **Reply #45 on:** Sun, 28 December 2014, 11:27:03 »

I agree with Joebroniee. DO IT NOW. More pressure, better results!

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Author Topic: Kinda regretting lubing cherry mx reds FML (Read 7442 times)