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Offline Tyrosh22

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Why are HHKB boards so great?
« on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 09:47:29 »
Those boards are worshipped by quite a few people here. I was just wondering why you guys like those keyboards so much.  :D
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 09:57:05 »
Buy one and find out.  ^-^
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 09:58:13 »
Look at it!! Just look at it for god's sake!

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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 10:12:29 »
Quote from: derb2k2 on Tue, 03 February 2015, 09:58:13
Look at it!! Just look at it for god's sake!

I'm not (yet) a sucker for symmetry! :D
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 10:15:02 »
They're not.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 10:30:26 »
See: every other thread on HHKB
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 10:56:03 »
I was in awe of them until I actually tried Topre. Turned out to be not for me. Can very well be a breaking in period and getting used to the feel but I take my linear Cherry MX any day of the week. Topre truly feels like (and tbh is) high end rubber dome.

(And I stood in Akihabara holding one, agonizing over the decision then ended up not. The disappointment on how topre felt was too much.)
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 10:58:47 »
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 11:07:53 »
Peer pressure.  That's the way I see it.  If you try the HHKB and like it, you're all good.  If you don't, then you find yourself wondering why you bought one.  It seems extreme either way.  It's an expensive way to find out.  I think the best bet is to actually try one out and determine if you want one.
Not for me.  I don't think I would ever get used to a small layout keyboard myself.  I could see using it for a portable device, but that's about it.  For full time use, I'd rather have a keyboard I am used to using.  That's my opinion.  To each their own.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 13:09:26 »
Cult of Topre.


Also layout is amazing.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 13:40:16 »
I think it's everything about them to be honest, just the whole thing. I think they are without a doubt the best looking 60% boards on the market, wish I hadn't have sold mine now to be honest with you.


rip hhkb pro 2 2014 :(
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 13:50:20 »
I like my Lite and Lite 2. Now that I have used a Type Heaven for a while I'd consider a HHKB Pro, but man, that's a lot of money to pay for my Nth keyboard. If it was one of my only keyboards I wouldn't be as averse to paying it, but with a growing collection of good keyboards it's not high on my purchase list.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 13:53:25 »
I really want to try topre one day. But they are so expensive. :D
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:22:35 »
They're not... most overrated board ever. Owned one for 3 months and got rid of the piece of ****. Worth nowhere near the price they want for it, and not even plate mounted. PCB mounted MX keyboards get hate on, yet nobody says the same for HHKB due to the hype. If you want to try Topre, go for the Leopold 660C. Better layout, and plate mounted. Feels so much better.

HHKB layout sucks too, some people will claim it's "amazing" mainly due to the symmetry.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:27:10 »
Quote from: limitz on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:22:35
They're not... most overrated board ever. Owned one for 3 months and got rid of the piece of ****. Worth nowhere near the price they want for it, and not even plate mounted. If you want to try Topre, go for the Leopold 660C. Better layout, and plate mounted.

HHKB layout sucks too, some people will claim it's "amazing" mainly due to the symmetry.

or if he wants a "better" layout, he could just get himself an RF, not that half assed **** leopold came out with.

hell, even the HHKB Pro JP is a million times better than 660c.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:29:01 »
Quote from: demik on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:27:10
Quote from: limitz on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:22:35
They're not... most overrated board ever. Owned one for 3 months and got rid of the piece of ****. Worth nowhere near the price they want for it, and not even plate mounted. If you want to try Topre, go for the Leopold 660C. Better layout, and plate mounted.

HHKB layout sucks too, some people will claim it's "amazing" mainly due to the symmetry.

or if he wants a "better" layout, he could just get himself an RF, not that half assed **** leopold came out with.

hell, even the HHKB Pro JP is a million times better than 660c.

LOL no. That tiny ass spacebar sucks. The enter key is huge and ISO style. The tiny gaps on the bottom row is awful design.

If that wasn't bad enough, the backspace key is only 1u, and difficult to reach as it's positioned way too far away.

HHKB = Most overrated keyboard ever. Only buy if you feel like tossing away $250 on a crap PCB mount. Any other PCB mount for that price would immediately be **** on in this board, yet the HHKB gets a pass?
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:31:37 »
maybe you just have ***** hands?

hhkb pro jp is ridiculously easy to learn.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:33:30 »
Quote from: demik on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:31:37
maybe you just have ***** hands?

hhkb pro jp is ridiculously easy to learn.

Ha... 10 years of competitive piano and my hands are the issue now?

No, the tiny backspace key is awful design, as with small gaps on the bottom row.

If you want to try Topre: Realforce, Novatouch, and 660C. Forget the gimmicky, hyped, and overrated HHKB.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:34:18 »
except it's not pcb mount. it's case mounted.


competitive piano? proof, that **** sounds awesome. is it like break dancing but with pianos?

lol hyped and overrated and you bring up the novatouch. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:36:01 »
Quote from: demik on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:34:18
except it's not pcb mount. it's case mounted.


competitive piano? proof, that **** sounds awesome. is it like break dancing but with pianos?

Yea exactly. You break dance on the piano.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:36:42 »
Quote from: limitz on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:36:01
Quote from: demik on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:34:18
except it's not pcb mount. it's case mounted.


competitive piano? proof, that **** sounds awesome. is it like break dancing but with pianos?

Yea exactly. You break dance on the piano.

even better
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:44:19 »
Quote from: demik on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:34:18
except it's not pcb mount. it's case mounted.


competitive piano? proof, that **** sounds awesome. is it like break dancing but with pianos?

lol hyped and overrated and you bring up the novatouch. RIIIIIIIIIIIIIGHT.

Except a lot of people here love the Novatouch, and plenty of reviews on this board have found it very favorable to the Realforce, not even factoring in Cherry switch compatibility.

Just because you drank the kool-aid doesn't mean the Novatouch is a crap board. Build quality is much better than HHKB, which must be the only board over $200 to not even include a metal plate.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:46:29 »
people love the novacrap because they're in love with putting ****ty loud keycaps on keyboards
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:47:06 »
The Topre that can be expressed is not the eternal Topre; The HHKB that can be defined is not the unchanging HHKB.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:51:17 »
Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:47:06
The Topre that can be expressed is not the eternal Topre; The HHKB that can be defined is not the unchanging HHKB.

Whoa, that's like... deep man.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:03:59 »
I had a chance to try the HHKB recently and its a great board, it was a display piece so I dont have a full experience of it but it sure felt great to type on. From what Ive seen and read, people prefer the HHKB layout compared to the standard ones. Noticeably, the backspace and ctrl location on the board. Also the fn layer seems very intuitive, but as with any new board that may take time to get used to. The Realforce, HHKB, 660c all has its merits and all have a unique/different typing experience thats hard to express. When I was in the market for a topre board, I would have went with the HHKB if it wasnt so hard/pricey to get one here. Now Im thankful it was hard to get since Im in love with my 660c.

PS. I would stay away from Novatouch... seems like theres more people selling theirs than keeping it in the Korean community. (buying it as a donor board is a different story...)
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:09:47 »
Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:47:06
The Topre that can be expressed is not the eternal Topre; The HHKB that can be defined is not the unchanging HHKB.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:19:51 »
Quote from: Air tree on Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:09:47
Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:47:06
The Topre that can be expressed is not the eternal Topre; The HHKB that can be defined is not the unchanging HHKB.
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^^ Who is this guy? AND does he even have a HHKB??
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:30:52 »
WOW.
this thread
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:41:53 »
this thread is top kek
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:45:37 »
really, limitz? smh

the hhkb is great due to its layout, aesthetics and feel (imo)
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:07:01 »
When i first bought the HHKB i didn't think too much for it. I thought it was okay but overpriced. I still believe it is overpriced but i have grown to really love it. I have tried numerous other Topre keyboards and the HHKB is my favorite by far. I only wish it was wireless and had dedicated arrow keys. Then it would be perfect!!!
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:16:25 »
LEHHKBMASTERRACE

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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:18:18 »
Can someone post the layout for the HHKB?
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:31:20 »
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:33:17 »
Quote from: RavenII on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:31:20
This is why they're so phenomenal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization

As someone who borrowed one and  tested one out for a couple of weeks before actually buying one, I can tell you that it's not true.  I thought it was and for some people it might be, but it really is one of the nicest keyboards I have ever used.  I absolutely love mine. 

Don't get me wrong, I love Cherry and Alps and wish the HHKB was cheaper, but I still think it's one of the best mechanical keyboards on the market with regards to feel.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:34:14 »
Quote from: RavenII on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:31:20
This is why they're so phenomenal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization

but i got mine for free

anyway, people like them because they do.

same reason people like ergo clears, same reason people that fall for vintage blacks. it's what they like typing on. not every switch is for everyone, and nothing a person can say will make you believe it until you try it and find out for yourself.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:37:06 »
Quote from: demik on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:34:14
Quote from: RavenII on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:31:20
This is why they're so phenomenal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization

but i got mine for free

anyway, people like them because they do.

same reason people like ergo clears, same people that fall for vintage blacks. it's what they like typing on. not every switch is for everyone, and nothing a person can say will make you believe it until you try it and find out for yourself.

demik being rational and not trolling with the HHKB?  What a day! 

But, seriously, that's damn well said.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:40:44 »
think my hhkb trolling does more damage to the hhkb team image than helps it.

although, i wonder who has listened to my trolling, bought it and actually thought "he was right!"
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:41:07 »
Quote from: demik on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:34:14
Quote from: RavenII on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:31:20
This is why they're so phenomenal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization

but i got mine for free


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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:43:27 »
and here i thought i could just enjoy a keyboard without being evaluated with some sort of syndrome.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:43:52 »
Quote from: ValerieV on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:07:01
When i first bought the HHKB i didn't think too much for it. I thought it was okay but overpriced. I still believe it is overpriced but i have grown to really love it. I have tried numerous other Topre keyboards and the HHKB is my favorite by far. I only wish it was wireless and had dedicated arrow keys. Then it would be perfect!!!


You meant perfect as it worth its price?

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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:48:26 »
Quote from: SpAmRaY on Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:19:51
Quote from: Air tree on Tue, 03 February 2015, 21:09:47
Quote from: jdcarpe on Tue, 03 February 2015, 20:47:06
The Topre that can be expressed is not the eternal Topre; The HHKB that can be defined is not the unchanging HHKB.
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Quote from: Air tree on Tue, 03 February 2015, 18:49:31
Since my HHKB is actually ordered and on the way, I now have a justifiable reason to buy more Bro Caps. (Yes the procrastination is over)
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:53:58 »
Quote from: demik on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:43:27
and here i thought i could just enjoy a keyboard without being evaluated with some sort of syndrome.

You are an elitist, that's the definition.
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 03 February 2015, 23:40:39 »
Quote from: demik on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:34:14
Quote from: RavenII on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:31:20
This is why they're so phenomenal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization

but i got mine for free


You're welcome :P

Now someone buy me a HHKB so I can be a part of the master race! lol
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 04 February 2015, 00:07:08 »
Quote from: bueller on Tue, 03 February 2015, 23:40:39
Quote from: demik on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:34:14
Quote from: RavenII on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:31:20
This is why they're so phenomenal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization

but i got mine for free


You're welcome :P

Now someone buy me a HHKB so I can be a part of the master race! lol

I'm not a rich man, but I'd put $20 toward that goal.  Now we just need 11-13 more at $20, depending on shipping.
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Offline demik

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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 04 February 2015, 00:17:18 »
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Offline Polymer

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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 04 February 2015, 00:20:40 »
The whole Topre cost thing has been debunked awhile ago..and realistically, the cost of Topre keyboards are not much more than Cherry MX...

I'm sure some people will justify the prices they paid and there is no doubt, some bias there...But really, Topre is a great switch and the keyboards feel great..the people hating on them are ones that can't get over that there is a rubber dome in there...and some people just like other switches...
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Re: Why are HHKB boards so great?
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 04 February 2015, 00:35:33 »
Quote from: nubbinator on Wed, 04 February 2015, 00:07:08
Quote from: bueller on Tue, 03 February 2015, 23:40:39
Quote from: demik on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:34:14
Quote from: RavenII on Tue, 03 February 2015, 22:31:20
This is why they're so phenomenal...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post-purchase_rationalization

but i got mine for free


You're welcome :P

Now someone buy me a HHKB so I can be a part of the master race! lol

I'm not a rich man, but I'd put $20 toward that goal.  Now we just need 11-13 more at $20, depending on shipping.

Cheers nubbs and dembro but I don't think I could accept that, there are far more deserving people around here!
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Quote from: HoffmanMyster on Tue, 20 January 2015, 19:52:41
It's a good width!  If it's half-width it's too narrow, and full-width is too wide. 

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