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Offline HoboInAShack

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Ducky Shine Zero or Ducky Shine 4?
« on: Fri, 15 May 2015, 05:12:19 »
Not exactly sure which one to choose, but should I go and save myself or few dollars with the Ducky Shine Zero ($149 AUD), or go with the more expensive Ducky Shine 4($199)?

P.S. Currently, about $1.29 AUD is equal to about $1 USD.

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Re: Ducky Shine Zero or Ducky Shine 4?
« Reply #1 on: Fri, 15 May 2015, 06:15:08 »
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Depends on what features you want.  Either should be a good keyboard, but Shine Zero has less lighting effects, only single colour LEDs, and non-detachable cable.

Shine 4 has many more lighting modes, multi-coloured LEDs and detachable cable (it has detachable cable, right?  Shine 1, 2 and 3 did).
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Offline HoboInAShack

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Re: Ducky Shine Zero or Ducky Shine 4?
« Reply #2 on: Fri, 15 May 2015, 06:32:39 »
It does have a detactable cable :).

Lighting doesn't matter the most to me, but it'll be nice to have. I'll see how much I can afford, then decide. At most, I want the Ducky Cities Space Bar Set, as flaunting my nationality on my keyboard sounds like fun.
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Re: Ducky Shine Zero or Ducky Shine 4?
« Reply #3 on: Fri, 15 May 2015, 08:32:34 »
I have a ducky zero with blacks (not sure if it is different from ducky shine zero).
I didn't know what was a ping before buying (and soon returning) that keyboard.
It drives you crazy.  :eek: :mad:
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Offline HoboInAShack

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Re: Ducky Shine Zero or Ducky Shine 4?
« Reply #4 on: Fri, 15 May 2015, 09:47:59 »
...whats a ping?....

I'm pretty sure the main difference between the ducky zero and the ducky shine zero is the backlighting.
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Re: Ducky Shine Zero or Ducky Shine 4?
« Reply #5 on: Fri, 15 May 2015, 09:55:17 »
Quote from: HoboInAShack on Fri, 15 May 2015, 09:47:59
...whats a ping?....

I'm pretty sure the main difference between the ducky zero and the ducky shine zero is the backlighting.

The ping is the vibration of the switch, that gets amplified by the plate, resunting in a ping, it really seems to make a... ping!


Ducky zero with blacks= very pingy
Cherry mx 3.0 with reds= no ping
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Offline HoboInAShack

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Re: Ducky Shine Zero or Ducky Shine 4?
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 01:29:03 »
So mainly the sound made by the keyboard itself, right?


It doesn't seem that bad to me though.
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Re: Ducky Shine Zero or Ducky Shine 4?
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 01:40:56 »
It is unbearable in reality.

Quote from: HoboInAShack on Sat, 16 May 2015, 01:29:03
So mainly the sound made by the keyboard itself, right?


It doesn't seem that bad to me though.
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Re: Ducky Shine Zero or Ducky Shine 4?
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 16 May 2015, 21:01:50 »
Quote from: HoboInAShack on Fri, 15 May 2015, 06:32:39
It does have a detactable cable :).

Lighting doesn't matter the most to me, but it'll be nice to have. I'll see how much I can afford, then decide. At most, I want the Ducky Cities Space Bar Set, as flaunting my nationality on my keyboard sounds like fun.

Sydney skyline though, not Melbourne :blank:
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NEC APC-H4100E | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED red | Ducky DK9008 Shine MX blue LED green | Link 900243-08 | CM QFR MX black | KeyCool 87 white MX reds | HHKB 2 Pro | Model M 02-Mar-1993 | Model M 29-Nov-1995 | CM Trigger (broken) | CM QFS MX green | Ducky DK9087 Shine 3 TKL Yellow Edition MX black | Lexmark SSK 21-Apr-1994 | IBM SSK 13-Oct-1987 | CODE TKL MX clear | Model M 122 01-Jun-1988

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Re: Ducky Shine Zero or Ducky Shine 4?
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 03:28:16 »
It's like a diapason

Quote from: HoboInAShack on Sat, 16 May 2015, 01:29:03
So mainly the sound made by the keyboard itself, right?


It doesn't seem that bad to me though.
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Offline HoboInAShack

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Re: Ducky Shine Zero or Ducky Shine 4?
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 04:02:31 »
Quote from: rowdy on Sat, 16 May 2015, 21:01:50

Sydney skyline though, not Melbourne :blank:

Regardless, there are very few things more Australian than the Sydeny Harbour Bridge and the Sydeny Opera House!
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Offline miroslav

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Re: Ducky Shine Zero or Ducky Shine 4?
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 17 May 2015, 11:17:44 »
I would say go with the Shine Zero unless you plan swap out your boards and care a lot about the dual leds. I have the Ducky Shine 4 69 Fire Edition myself and I don't use it all that often. I would prefer to save the 50 dollars because dual lighting + detachable cable just isn't worth it. With the Shine Zero you also have TKL whereas the Ducky Shine 4 will not have a TKL released (Heard from a head staff at Ducky). The Shine 4 has different case colors too if you decide to go for that option.
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