What exactly is Dolch?

[macguy80]

Is it a brand/manufacturer, or the name of a particular style?

If the latter, do you guys have a favorite vendor? I'm looking for a good replacement set for my KUL ES-87, though I find the stock caps to be better than I expected.

Thanks!

[romevi]

It's a way of life.

[scubaste]

The term Dolch is commonly used as a reference to the colorway on the Dolch PAC keyboard. This colorway has been reproduced a handful of times in the recent past with slight variations.
 
more info on the origins:
http://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_G80-1813

[SpAmRaY]

I couldn't find it but I know there was a discussion over this exact topic recently. Maybe rowdy will be along sometime with a link.

[raymogi]

It's a way of life.

Amen to that.

[jamster]

I ordered Tai Hao (manufacturer) Dolch (colourway) keys about six months ago from Hendy. He's got a vendor subforum. I threw them onto my KUL then switched them to my Royal Kludge.

The top of the line option for the colourway seems to be GMK, which should still be available from Zeal. Massdrop also reruns GMK Dolch from Originative, but that seller seems have a bad history with GH (I'm too new to have been around back then) so I've never been tempted to try that route.

Dolch also seems to be the regular whipping boy for all the too-cool Geekhackers who cry "why do all the noobs like Dolch! Can they not see that <insert name of unicorn vomit colourway> is so much better?!?" 

[trenzafeeds]

Maybe rowdy will be along sometime with a link.

Lol because rowdy reads every thread on this forum. Pretty much accurate.

[rowdy]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74010.0

You people did this to me

[trenzafeeds]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74010.0

You people did this to me

Eyyy got my 1000 today and though of you. Mostly just because you have a ton of posts...

[rowdy]

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=74010.0

You people did this to me

Eyyy got my 1000 today and though of you. Mostly just because you have a ton of posts...

I still don't know how that happened ...

[DAVYtm]

Is it a brand/manufacturer, or the name of a particular style?

If the latter, do you guys have a favorite vendor? I'm looking for a good replacement set for my KUL ES-87, though I find the stock caps to be better than I expected.

Thanks!

Depends on what profile you like. I had DSA Dolch for a while from Signature Plastics, really liked that set. GMK Dolch is around too. One of my favorite colorways for keycaps.

[absyrd]

Dolch is played out.

Handarbeit = progression.

[trenzafeeds]

Dolch is played out.

Handarbeit = progression.

I would legitimately buy a handarbeit GMK set.

[ideus]

Still looking for a vintage OG Dolch set.

[trenzafeeds]

Still looking for a vintage OG Dolch set.

What kind of stuff would you trade?

[ideus]

Still looking for a vintage OG Dolch set.

What kind of stuff would you trade?

Monies? 

[trenzafeeds]

Still looking for a vintage OG Dolch set.

What kind of stuff would you trade?

Monies? 

Haha ok, I might be acquiring a set in the near future. I'll let you know if I decide to part with it.

[ideus]

Still looking for a vintage OG Dolch set.

What kind of stuff would you trade?

Monies? 

Haha ok, I might be acquiring a set in the near future. I'll let you know if I decide to part with it.

[trenzafeeds]

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Nevermind

[absyrd]

Still looking for a vintage OG Dolch set.

What kind of stuff would you trade?

Monies? 

Haha ok, I might be acquiring a set in the near future. I'll let you know if I decide to part with it.

No star for you. Conducting biz outside classifieds. Reported.

[trenzafeeds]

Still looking for a vintage OG Dolch set.

What kind of stuff would you trade?

Monies? 

Haha ok, I might be acquiring a set in the near future. I'll let you know if I decide to part with it.

No star for you. Conducting biz outside classifieds. Reported.

Maybe your report will make the mods finally notice me 

also holy **** you stalker stop following me

[ideus]

Kisses for everyone, don't get mad.


 

[absyrd]

Kisses for everyone, don't get mad.


 

Reported to HR for sexual advance.

[trenzafeeds]

Kisses for everyone, don't get mad.


 

[ideus]

Kisses for everyone, don't get mad.


 

Reported to HR for sexual advance.

Human rights police harassing me.


 

[Prelim]

once you go dolch, there's no turning back

[MaNiFeX]

It's a way of life.

Exactly.  See my gamer board.   

[zslane]

The Dolch colorway was the second colorway I ever fell in love with (after Space Cadet). I have two sets of Dolch DSA because Dolch is so awesome (and I only type on sphericals, so no OG or GMK for me, tyvm). The only thing that could possibly be better than Dolch DSA would be Dolch SA. I may need to get a GB going for that...

Dolch is "played out" only for young'uns who have no taste or appreciation for classic, timeless colorways. Handarbeit my arse.

[mashby]

More info on Dolch can be found here: http://keypuller.com/dolch/

[rowdy]

Dolch is played out.

Handarbeit = progression.

If every Dolch PAC had come with Handarbeit on it, the world would be a very different place.

[absyrd]

Dolch is played out.

Handarbeit = progression.

If every Dolch PAC had come with Handarbeit on it, the world would be a very different place.

Maybe everyone would be as colorful as you. 

[rowdy]

Dolch is played out.

Handarbeit = progression.

If every Dolch PAC had come with Handarbeit on it, the world would be a very different place.

Maybe everyone would be as colorful as you. 

I made a Rowdybeit once

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40937.msg1236000#msg1236000

[absyrd]

Nice. Rowdybeit =/= unicorn vomit.

[jamster]

Is there some kind of historical story behind this handarbeit thing? After Googling it all I can imagine is that perhaps it was the keyboard standard of the Lego company.

Or is it just random colours?

[rowdy]

Is there some kind of historical story behind this handarbeit thing? After Googling it all I can imagine is that perhaps it was the keyboard standard of the Lego company.

Or is it just random colours?

http://pinchocodia.tistory.com/17

[DanielT]

Dolch is my favourite keyboard from the classics. Perfect layout, perfect key feel, perfect look. It's one board I would never sell, I like it more than my IBM SSK.
Dolch is a classic that should never miss in a serious keyboard collection.

[jamster]

Is there some kind of historical story behind this handarbeit thing? After Googling it all I can imagine is that perhaps it was the keyboard standard of the Lego company.

Or is it just random colours?

http://pinchocodia.tistory.com/17

Thanks for that... "Handicraft Peacock?" from Google translate I get the impression that some guy in Korea threw a bunch of coloured caps onto a board, and it became some kind of meme...?

[trenzafeeds]

no
http://keypuller.com/handarbeit/

[DanielT]

Funny thing about Handarbeit, so rare and has crappy switches...

[MaNiFeX]

The only thing that could possibly be better than Dolch DSA would be Dolch SA. I may need to get a GB going for that...

I was thinking the same thing.  Sculpted Dolch!!!   

[jdcarpe]

Hack'd By Geeks is essentially sculpted SA Dolch with orange legends.

[xondat]

Hack'd By Geeks is essentially sculpted SA Dolch with orange legends.

Huh, never noticed that.

The only thing that could possibly be better than Dolch DSA would be Dolch SA. I may need to get a GB going for that...

I was thinking the same thing.  Sculpted Dolch!!!   

This needs to happen ASAP.

[sintklaas73]

overated stuff. OG PBT sets > ABS DS

[jonathanyu]

overated stuff. OG PBT sets > ABS DS

ABS > PBT

[romevi]

overated stuff. OG PBT sets > ABS DS

Wait. When people say "OG Cherry," are the older Cherry sets PBT? I always assumed they were ABS.

[sintklaas73]

you like it shiny right? 

IMHO both are great, but in the long term...ABS shines, Cherry DS / GMK stuff shines and PBT, specially BSP and OG PBT Cherry sets (great smooth feeling) will keep their texture much much longer than Cherry DS / GMK ABS sets.

[trenzafeeds]

Wait. When people say "OG Cherry," are the older Cherry sets PBT? I always assumed they were ABS.

There are both, the ABS doubleshot sets being relatively more common. There are also much less common PBT dyesub sets, which a lot of serious people would call the best-feeling keysets ever produced, but they go for insane prices (usually).

[sintklaas73]

overated stuff. OG PBT sets > ABS DS

Wait. When people say "OG Cherry," are the older Cherry sets PBT? I always assumed they were ABS.

You can consider both, PBT and ABS. I believe both type of keycaps were contemporaneous, even DS being older since you can find them from early 80's.
OG PBT sets are great, so are BSP sets (OG DYESUB replicas). BSP supplied Cherry for their MY keyboards according to their GM and still do for the ML switch type.

[rowdy]

overated stuff. OG PBT sets > ABS DS

ABS > PBT

[jonathanyu]

you like it shiny right? 

IMHO both are great, but in the long term...ABS shines, Cherry DS / GMK stuff shines and PBT, specially BSP and OG PBT Cherry sets (great smooth feeling) will keep their texture much much longer than Cherry DS / GMK ABS sets.

ABS that shines is the best