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[IC] GMK Carbon
« on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 13:44:59 »
How about GMK Carbon?

I mean if you appreciate the colors but not the SA Profile, we can do this. Due to the custom Colors it will get approx MOQ of 400 sets but i think as Carbon its doable.
For the first time i just want your opinion and interesst. If its high enough i'll make the sketches and we'll do this.

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Re: GMK Carbon
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 13:45:11 »
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Re: GMK Carbon
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 13:45:41 »
GMK is Cherry profile, correct? I may be interested.

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Re: GMK Carbon
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 13:46:12 »
GMK is Cherry profile, correct? I may be interested.
Yes cherry profile.

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Re: GMK Carbon
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 13:50:48 »
Let's see some mockups.  I've seen Carbon in person, but I can't remember exactly which legends, bases, etc are orange, grey, black, etc.  I'm sure others wouldn't mind not having to search around to see what we're expressing interest in.  ;)

Also what layouts/keys would be offered?

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Re: GMK Carbon
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 13:50:50 »
GMK is Cherry profile, correct? I may be interested.
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Re: GMK Carbon
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 13:51:26 »
GMK is Cherry profile, correct? I may be interested.
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Re: GMK Carbon
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 13:51:29 »
Let's see some mockups.  I've seen Carbon in person, but I can't remember exactly which legends, bases, etc are orange, grey, black, etc.  I'm sure others wouldn't mind not having to search around to see what we're expressing interest in.  ;)

Also what layouts/keys would be offered?

It's basically Skidata with orange alphas.

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Re: GMK Carbon
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 13:53:30 »
Let's see some mockups.  I've seen Carbon in person, but I can't remember exactly which legends, bases, etc are orange, grey, black, etc.  I'm sure others wouldn't mind not having to search around to see what we're expressing interest in.  ;)

Also what layouts/keys would be offered?

It's basically Skidata with orange alphas.

The degree of Skidata-ness is basically what I'm hoping to quantify here.  ^-^

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Re: GMK Carbon
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 14:00:55 »
Let's see some mockups.  I've seen Carbon in person, but I can't remember exactly which legends, bases, etc are orange, grey, black, etc.  I'm sure others wouldn't mind not having to search around to see what we're expressing interest in.  ;)

Also what layouts/keys would be offered?

I plan nothing crazy like i did with Carbon SA. Just standard GMK set (100%) and separate adapters (WKL etc). Just the same like skidata+. However the colors will be Carbon one off-white, darkish and vibrant orange. And ofcourse gray modifiers (like GMK CC Color). Basically the off-white and orange will be custom most probably.
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Re: GMK Carbon
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 14:01:20 »
Let's see some mockups.  I've seen Carbon in person, but I can't remember exactly which legends, bases, etc are orange, grey, black, etc.  I'm sure others wouldn't mind not having to search around to see what we're expressing interest in.  ;)

Also what layouts/keys would be offered?

It's basically Skidata with orange alphas.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 14:04:41 »
I would in for one

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 14:10:56 »
Loved the original, but hate the SA

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 14:13:36 »
Somebody knows the closest Font to Cherry one? I mean i'll find it but if someone knows i would appreciate the info :)

Nevermind found it already: Helvetica Rounded bold
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 14:20:10 »
I'm interested!

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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 14:24:49 »
Somebody knows the closest Font to Cherry one? I mean i'll find it but if someone knows i would appreciate the info :)

Nevermind found it already: Helvetica Rounded bold
According to Deskthority's wiki, Helvetica Rounded is the closest one to the Bubbly Sans which is used for the purpose.
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 14:36:32 »
good idea !

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 15:52:35 »
i would buy one !

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 15:52:56 »
Just wondering, is this all that different from Skidata and the Monkey set combined? I'm all for more GMK sets, but just wondering if you have taken a look at those two. The only major difference I can point out is that the Monkey set is quite a bit more pale white than beige.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 15:55:02 »
It may look good enough; but, I cannot make my mind until I see it, at least on a mockup.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 15:56:27 »
Added to the GMK Database.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 16:18:22 »
Updated first post with 60% mockup.

I'll post 100% tommorow its just late here in Germany and i need to work tommorow.
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 16:21:24 »
I'm a little conflictted on how it's going to look. On the one hand, I love the colors of Carbon. On the other hand, I feel that the center legends and SA profile made Carbon SA what it is. Would definitely have to see renders before I make a decision here.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 16:23:12 »
Personally for me, I will never again join a GMK GB with custom colors.  It is unfortunate, but such a huge risk after the TA fiasco.  I'm sure I will miss out on a great GB one day, but until I see a custom set produced successfully from GMK I won't be joining any.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 16:29:54 »
Added to the GMK Database.

Thank you!  :) But i think its to early. I just need to figure out the demand.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 16:50:35 »
Personally for me, I will never again join a GMK GB with custom colors.  It is unfortunate, but such a huge risk after the TA fiasco.  I'm sure I will miss out on a great GB one day, but until I see a custom set produced successfully from GMK I won't be joining any.

 :(

What exactly do you think custom colors have to do with TA problems? Besides the light leaks I cannot think on anything else.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 17:08:28 »
Definitely interested  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 17:10:27 »
Personally for me, I will never again join a GMK GB with custom colors.  It is unfortunate, but such a huge risk after the TA fiasco.  I'm sure I will miss out on a great GB one day, but until I see a custom set produced successfully from GMK I won't be joining any.

 :(

What exactly do you think custom colors have to do with TA problems? Besides the light leaks I cannot think on anything else.

We saw "swirls" in some of the caps from TA.  I suspect that those are an artifact of how they achieve their custom colors (I think they are mixing white and blue/teal pellets, rather than using pre-colorized pellets, but I cannot confirm).

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 17:13:15 »
Personally for me, I will never again join a GMK GB with custom colors.  It is unfortunate, but such a huge risk after the TA fiasco.  I'm sure I will miss out on a great GB one day, but until I see a custom set produced successfully from GMK I won't be joining any.

 :(

What exactly do you think custom colors have to do with TA problems? Besides the light leaks I cannot think on anything else.

We saw "swirls" in some of the caps from TA.  I suspect that those are an artifact of how they achieve their custom colors (I think they are mixing white and blue/teal pellets, rather than using pre-colorized pellets, but I cannot confirm).

I might be alone on this one but I feel like if they don't get it right this time then they never will, it was obvious to me that they didn't do the proper testing last time and they should realize their mistake as a decent business.

I love this color scheme, but SA seems too tall for me. Cherry on the other hand - interested.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 17:25:10 »
Personally for me, I will never again join a GMK GB with custom colors.  It is unfortunate, but such a huge risk after the TA fiasco.  I'm sure I will miss out on a great GB one day, but until I see a custom set produced successfully from GMK I won't be joining any.

 :(

What exactly do you think custom colors have to do with TA problems? Besides the light leaks I cannot think on anything else.

We saw "swirls" in some of the caps from TA.  I suspect that those are an artifact of how they achieve their custom colors (I think they are mixing white and blue/teal pellets, rather than using pre-colorized pellets, but I cannot confirm).

I might be alone on this one but I feel like if they don't get it right this time then they never will, it was obvious to me that they didn't do the proper testing last time and they should realize their mistake as a decent business.

I love this color scheme, but SA seems too tall for me. Cherry on the other hand - interested.

If our specifications are not properly communicated to GMK through whatever channel is appropriate, or they are not made aware of customer needs (light-bleed is not a spec that they run to), you can't blame GMK.  The swirls are something that I believe should have been discussed or brought up, but they probably have tolerances for these things and if they were within spec then we only have "ourselves" (or the entity that placed the order) to blame. 

I'm not following why after making GMK aware of these needs you would still be unwilling to give them your business - if all of these things are plainly laid out and they don't meet our needs, it's no different from sending 104 'F' keys instead of a full set of keycaps (it's on them to fix it). 

I work in manufacturing, and there are plenty of times that the customer will ask for something, we tell them that their application is not what the product is designed for, they order it anyway, and they run into issues processing our materials - that's their fault.  Granted, this communication needs to occur, but my point is that you can't put everything on the manufacturer; you need to make sure that the manufacturer was running to the proper specs for the application, etc.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 17:40:58 »
Yes I might be interested on this one!

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 17:50:50 »
Personally for me, I will never again join a GMK GB with custom colors.  It is unfortunate, but such a huge risk after the TA fiasco.  I'm sure I will miss out on a great GB one day, but until I see a custom set produced successfully from GMK I won't be joining any.

 :(

What exactly do you think custom colors have to do with TA problems? Besides the light leaks I cannot think on anything else.

We saw "swirls" in some of the caps from TA.  I suspect that those are an artifact of how they achieve their custom colors (I think they are mixing white and blue/teal pellets, rather than using pre-colorized pellets, but I cannot confirm).

I might be alone on this one but I feel like if they don't get it right this time then they never will, it was obvious to me that they didn't do the proper testing last time and they should realize their mistake as a decent business.

I love this color scheme, but SA seems too tall for me. Cherry on the other hand - interested.

If our specifications are not properly communicated to GMK through whatever channel is appropriate, or they are not made aware of customer needs (light-bleed is not a spec that they run to), you can't blame GMK.  The swirls are something that I believe should have been discussed or brought up, but they probably have tolerances for these things and if they were within spec then we only have "ourselves" (or the entity that placed the order) to blame. 

I'm not following why after making GMK aware of these needs you would still be unwilling to give them your business - if all of these things are plainly laid out and they don't meet our needs, it's no different from sending 104 'F' keys instead of a full set of keycaps (it's on them to fix it). 

I work in manufacturing, and there are plenty of times that the customer will ask for something, we tell them that their application is not what the product is designed for, they order it anyway, and they run into issues processing our materials - that's their fault.  Granted, this communication needs to occur, but my point is that you can't put everything on the manufacturer; you need to make sure that the manufacturer was running to the proper specs for the application, etc.

I'd love to try a second set of GMK custom colors, turns out I deleted my first sentence by accident. I had GMK TA for a while and they looked a tad blurry but otherwise great, but I feel like the majority of poeple may be off put by the fact that it has to be another custom color buy again. I certainly will hop on this train and hope for the best, but I cannot vouch for others.

Maybe blaming GMK is wrong, but no one else thinks that maybe they cannot do what the customers want all the time, and that there will be mistakes made due to the equipment they are using. I never really though of it from this point of view honestly.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 18:05:34 »
I'm not saying everyone should not support custom colors, I am just weary after the TA set. And yes I meant the color swirls. I agree with everything that has been said in response to my post, however no matter how great I think a set looks I'm not going to run the risk.

Sorry for slightly derailing the topic. I really hope GMK custom colors become doable and reliable.
               

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 18:12:51 »
Any estimation on price range?

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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 18:14:04 »
Any estimation on price range?

I've seen GMK go for about $125-150 per set once they hit MOQ. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

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« Reply #35 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 18:19:21 »
I'd be in if there was some sort of knowing if it's going to be another TA fiasco again. Pretty split right now on it though.

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[IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 18:20:37 »
I own the Carbon SA set and really like it.

I also own the GMK TA set and the problem of this set is the designer himself chose the color chip to reproduce the 'original TA' rather than the TA overtime. But what the community want is the 'faded' TA.
Since T0mb3ry already saw what Carbon SA in real life, I'm confident that he will choose the right color chip for GMK Carbon.
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 18:26:21 »
Cautiously interested in this one -- largely dependent on price and what the final kit is.

The novelties were what really made Carbon SA for me, and those novelties won't be possible with GMK. I think it will be difficult to make MOQ on the basis of the colour scheme alone. If there's some way to get novelties in GMK, it would almost certainly be insta-join for me.
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 18:38:02 »
I think this will look great. I'm very interested!

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« Reply #39 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 19:22:04 »
This is cool, this might have to wait a while. Skidata+ might have satisfied a lot of people thirst for orange.

I know this is different but the mods are dark with orange legends. This is cool though!

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 19:58:24 »
I would do symbol modifiers personally.

You dont see them that often anymore =(

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 20:00:14 »
It's an awesome colorway. I've got Carbon SA and love it! Might be interested in this as well.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 20:35:29 »
I like the carbon color way a lot. But I think a custom color will make this much harder. The MOQ and cost is higher.

I also think with GMK Skidata and Monkey coming up in the next few months we might have had our fill of orange keycaps.


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« Reply #43 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 20:35:42 »
Just wondering, is this all that different from Skidata and the Monkey set combined? I'm all for more GMK sets, but just wondering if you have taken a look at those two. The only major difference I can point out is that the Monkey set is quite a bit more pale white than beige.

agreed. skidata combined with monkey its just like carbon for sure, many ppl buy those 2 keyset and combine it. and yeah carbon its more appealing and more cheaper than have to buy 2 keyset. but if many people already buy skidata & monkey its will be difficult for carbon to reach 400 MOQ, i think its better to separate between the alphas and the modifier. so who already bought skidata only need the alphas and who already bought monkey only need the modifier. just IMO!

Cautiously interested in this one -- largely dependent on price and what the final kit is.

The novelties were what really made Carbon SA for me, and those novelties won't be possible with GMK. I think it will be difficult to make MOQ on the basis of the colour scheme alone. If there's some way to get novelties in GMK, it would almost certainly be insta-join for me.

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 21:55:20 »
I'd probably be in for one. I have found that GMK is pretty much my favorite cap manufacturer anyway. So that works out pretty well for me!

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 22:46:23 »
Yes, this would be seks.

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« Reply #46 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 23:33:20 »
will go for this gmk carbon

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 23:36:57 »
I'd get in on that

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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 15 February 2016, 23:58:06 »
Just wondering, is this all that different from Skidata and the Monkey set combined? I'm all for more GMK sets, but just wondering if you have taken a look at those two. The only major difference I can point out is that the Monkey set is quite a bit more pale white than beige.

agreed. skidata combined with monkey its just like carbon for sure, many ppl buy those 2 keyset and combine it. and yeah carbon its more appealing and more cheaper than have to buy 2 keyset. but if many people already buy skidata & monkey its will be difficult for carbon to reach 400 MOQ, i think its better to separate between the alphas and the modifier. so who already bought skidata only need the alphas and who already bought monkey only need the modifier. just IMO!

Monkey is slightly offwhite almost white. I was on the fence to join but i'll mix up my SKIDATA+ with Gateron ural.

However Carbon's ofwhite is like ivory or bone color and i want exactly this color. It' quite different. If you saw Carbon in Person you know what i am talking about  ;)

Cautiously interested in this one -- largely dependent on price and what the final kit is.

The novelties were what really made Carbon SA for me, and those novelties won't be possible with GMK. I think it will be difficult to make MOQ on the basis of the colour scheme alone. If there's some way to get novelties in GMK, it would almost certainly be insta-join for me.

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AFAIK GMK is offering custom legends or am i wrong?  :D
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Re: [IC] GMK Carbon
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 16 February 2016, 07:22:59 »
Ivory wins over white any day.