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Offline droideggs

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #150 on: Fri, 20 July 2018, 21:21:04 »
I had the Tai-Hao plate made and found one issue: the stab cutouts on the right shift are just a bit too far apart. I ended up having to cut my own stab wire from a spare space bar wire.

had same issue as well. in the meantime for those that want to use the tai hao design plate, don't. the right stab cutouts are too wide part from each other. i suppose the only way to fix this is to make your own stab wire which seems difficult to do.

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #151 on: Tue, 14 August 2018, 14:14:30 »
Anyone worked on plate for Acer stabs before ?






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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #152 on: Wed, 05 September 2018, 00:45:23 »
Anyone wanna make a layout for the Focus FK-5001? I'd just need a user with the board to measure out the dimensions for the BAE key, and someone to help me with custom geometry for the stabs. Let's get some more layouts on the sticky since alps are becoming more popular!

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #153 on: Mon, 24 September 2018, 09:37:33 »
Is the Tai-Hao plate compatible with the Alps64 PCB? I'd very much like to get into the 60% Alps business.

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #154 on: Mon, 24 September 2018, 18:23:35 »
Is the Tai-Hao plate compatible with the Alps64 PCB? I'd very much like to get into the 60% Alps business.

The pcb supports the layout, but note that some of people reported issue on right shift. They didn't give precise description enough to identify the issue so far unfortunately.
It seems to work with standard Alps stabs got from such AEK or DELL while I guess they used ones come form somehwere else.

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #155 on: Sat, 20 October 2018, 01:11:36 »
Does the Dell AT101 plate also support SGI granite caps? Thanks!

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #156 on: Mon, 05 November 2018, 05:02:46 »
HELLO dear FRIENDS,

I will build a 60% ALP board after summer and I am collecting part atm... so far I got

ALP YELLOW
PCB 60% https://imgur.com/a/uKABxgf
Keycaps I found is for ALPS but space key got cherry stab hole with ALP switch hole in the middle, see pic... https://imgur.com/a/tCodu7R

The problem I am having is I want a CAD file to plate that will support normal ANSI layout of alp style.
The space key seems like to be 6.25u and it is only the spacekey who got the mx stab style while the rest got alp style of stabs.

I am really bad witch coding and 3d modeling anyone who can help me? :)

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #157 on: Fri, 07 December 2018, 22:10:38 »
I had the Tai-Hao plate made and found one issue: the stab cutouts on the right shift are just a bit too far apart. I ended up having to cut my own stab wire from a spare space bar wire.

had same issue as well. in the meantime for those that want to use the tai hao design plate, don't. the right stab cutouts are too wide part from each other. i suppose the only way to fix this is to make your own stab wire which seems difficult to do.

Can someone help edit the Tai Hao plate
i think just shorten the distance of the right shift stab by 3mm, then all the problem should be solved.

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #158 on: Mon, 21 January 2019, 17:24:09 »
I have 3D printed several of the Tai-Hao plates and con confirm the right-shift problem, both with Matias and Dell AT101W right shift stab wires. Both clip holes appear to be too far away from the switch hole, not just one.

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #159 on: Thu, 07 March 2019, 03:40:02 »
https://www117.zippyshare.com/v/B7oPE7dD/file.html



Here is a layout I am using. 5140 Alphas, bottom row from a Focus FK-5001, and some odds and ends from an AT101W keyset. Posted the DXF if anyone wants it.

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #160 on: Mon, 18 March 2019, 07:54:09 »
Does anyone have files for HHKB plate with 7u spacebar and Alps style stabiliser?

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #161 on: Fri, 29 March 2019, 02:59:49 »
Hey guys, I have a little problem and it would be grat if you could help me out with it. So I kind of impulsively bought a set of dcs alpine winter and matias switches before putting my research in a plate and stabilizers. My question would now be if somebody knows how to make a ISO plate, that also has a HHKB layout and if there is such a thing(because I didn't find it anywhere) which stabilzers do I have to use with it? The alpine winter set is kind of strange because it has mx mounts for the stabilizers, could I just use Matias stabilizers and put mx inserts in it?

I don't think anyone has made an ISO plate for the Alps64 yet, so I don't know which stabilizers you would use. I guess we just need an ISO AEKII or AT102 plate to look at.

And yes, you can use Matias stabilizers with the MX inserts for Alpine Winter.

I did. For use with AT102W caps. Due to a variety of reasons I have not managed to complete the build, but tested the plate with switches and caps and they work fine. Swills tool will not generate correctly spaced holes for the ISO enter switch position, possibly due to non-standard stem spacing on the cap itself, so I modified the plate manually with the help of some calipers and access to the original AT102W plate for measurement.

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If you don’t mind sharing those measurements, I can modify the AT101W plate and make a pull request to emdude’s Github to add it to the collection.

Sorry I'm away on vacation until after CNY holidays, will put a reminder in for when I come back

That would be great, thank you.

I think this is the one

Just used the plate for my build. Worked quite right with a Dell AT102W black except for the right shift stabilizer size, which is a bit smaller.


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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #162 on: Sat, 20 April 2019, 13:05:59 »
Does anyone have a plate file for a AT101 plate with proper stabilizer cutouts & possibly no switch cutout between the ctrl & alt keys? I would be extremely grateful if someone does & could share it with me. I don't trust using KLE raw data since it either shifts the caps lock cutout either to far to the left with the stepped option or to far to the right with the normal caps spacing on swillkb & I'd assume also on ai03. I was gonna use the file provided at the beginning of this thread, but I seen that the r shift stabilizer cutouts are placed too wide & have no ideal how to fix that myself. :(

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #163 on: Thu, 25 April 2019, 16:28:20 »
Heyo fellow ALPS gents, looking to get an HHKB-esque style plate cut for an incoming Ortek MCK-101 set.

The layout was similar enough to the FAE IBM 5140 so I borrowed from that design, and then compared details of the full-sized right shift on the AT101, as well as spacing on the HHKB layout for outer 1u on the bottom row.

Can you guys take a look at the dxf and give some advice? This is a rough draft, as I'm not sure of the space stabilizers at this point. I have a set mounted to an HHKB style housing and plate right now, but I can't say for certain it's the original space bar. Unfortunately I didn't take part in that beauty, just got it on r/mm for a reasonable rate :) I don't have the heart to rip a compliant shift from another kit just to satisfy the core HHKB aesthetic so... it's a compromise for the sake of the Ortek set (and the community).

I'd like to commit it to the repo if the design pans out. These Ortek caps are pretty nice, with rgb mods, and often different pad-printed sub legends (JP and RU variants pop up from time to time).

EDIT: got some more info from another user who mounted similar keycaps. These caps use a quirky double costar stabilizer system for the BAE, and costar for the space. I'm still awaiting the donor board to confirm and adjust the design. Interestingly enough, the board he used was a completely different model yet layout and design were nearly identical, meaning there are likely many design clones out there.
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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #164 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 18:09:38 »
Hi guys, I tried making a plate for to Focus FK-2001 using a 6.5 AEK space bar. by mashing together a few other plate files. I have no idea what I'm doing, can someone take a look before I try to get a plate made. Much help appreciated.

I also want to try to make it with a 7u space bar, don't know if it works with alps64. I need to do some more research.
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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #165 on: Thu, 30 May 2019, 23:17:58 »
I can contribute slightly:

AT101 plate
Here's some AT101W info about the right shift location on stock plate, stock caps, and TH caps. If this doesn't clear up the mismatch I could do a mockup assembly later and see if it gets wonky on the stock plate.
https://imgur.com/L2cieWS
https://imgur.com/tQ7BmwG
https://imgur.com/wfnGnG9
Plate cutting is shelved because I either need to replace the XD60v3 or the partially stepped caps plate and I haven't decided yet. I have both caps keys from TH nice.

plate for Focus FK-2001
Here's a picture of my FK-2001 stock plate, the spacebar stabs look like ReDsNoTDeAd's above. Just to confirm your work.
https://imgur.com/dBVVZf0

Mind you, my measurements are with a plastic calipers so any fractional millimeters would not be accurate.

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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #166 on: Sat, 01 June 2019, 20:23:59 »
babyfeets, thank you for the pics.

I updated emdude's 'Dell AT101' file in the first post and fixed right shift stab cutouts to 37mm width.
Any AT101, AT101W keycap and stab is not available in hand and I can't confirm the fix myself. It would be appreciated if someone can test it.

emdude's right shift stab width is 40.5mm in AT101, AT101W and TAIHAO plates, all of them should be fixed as well probably.
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Re: Open Source 60% Alps Plates
« Reply #167 on: Sun, 16 June 2019, 05:29:31 »
babyfeets, thank you for the pics.

I updated emdude's 'Dell AT101' file in the first post and fixed right shift stab cutouts to 37mm width.
Any AT101, AT101W keycap and stab is not available in hand and I can't confirm the fix myself. It would be appreciated if someone can test it.

emdude's right shift stab width is 40.5mm in AT101, AT101W and TAIHAO plates, all of them should be fixed as well probably.

Came back here to confirm this. Gave up on the Ortek stuff after being swindled and cut TaiHao... now have a nice brass plate that doesn't work :rip:
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