Author Topic: [MechSupply] UKKeycaps Q-Series Skidata Keyset (Produced by Devlin) (Read 94773 times)

UKKeycaps · « **on:** Tue, 18 October 2016, 13:47:19 »

PURCHASE HERE

It's finally here after long months of organising, fine-tuning and negotiating!

Q-Series is a profile never reliably available to the community before. Produced for UKKeycaps/MechSupply by Devlin in the UK! Thick, high quality keycaps. This is not a group-buy you're gonna want to miss.

Read more on the product page by following the link above.

Fictiouz · « **Reply #1 on:** Tue, 18 October 2016, 13:49:04 »

Interesting stuff. Might have to pick up a set to test the profile out

mushman · « **Reply #2 on:** Tue, 18 October 2016, 14:20:45 »

First off, thank you very much for making this set available!

That being said, let's start off with some questions for a potential FAQ page.

Regarding the space bar:

How does the texture differ between Devlin and DSA?

Is the space bar ABS or PBT?

Did you consider Signature Plastics G20 series caps for the space bar and why or why not?
[ie: If someone loves G20 would its space bar be a good fit for the Devlin profile?]

What Signature Plastics color code are you using?

Num-Pad & Non-Standard

Did you consider a 1.25 Func or FN key? I only ask because almost every keyboard has one.

Otherwise congrats on keeping this down to two options!

simonyunhe · « **Reply #3 on:** Thu, 20 October 2016, 20:59:56 »

Bob · « **Reply #4 on:** Sun, 23 October 2016, 22:38:16 »

Ummm, I'm not really understanding why you re-posted that picture. Was there meant to be something more?

neverused · « **Reply #5 on:** Sun, 23 October 2016, 22:52:16 »

Quote from: Bob on Sun, 23 October 2016, 22:38:16

Ummm, I'm not really understanding why you re-posted that picture. Was there meant to be something more?

Maybe to show the underlying structure and thickness of the caps?

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simonyunhe · « **Reply #6 on:** Sun, 23 October 2016, 23:46:09 »

Quote from: neverused on Sun, 23 October 2016, 22:52:16

Quote from: Bob on Sun, 23 October 2016, 22:38:16
Ummm, I'm not really understanding why you re-posted that picture. Was there meant to be something more?
Maybe to show the underlying structure and thickness of the caps?

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Yes, exactly!

mushman · « **Reply #7 on:** Mon, 24 October 2016, 22:15:58 »

I would certainly appreciate answers to my questions!

Calcifar · « **Reply #8 on:** Wed, 26 October 2016, 07:04:30 »

How exactly do these differ from DSA Keycaps, are they flatter ?

simonyunhe · « **Reply #9 on:** Wed, 26 October 2016, 07:49:06 »

Quote from: Calcifar on Wed, 26 October 2016, 07:04:30

How exactly do these differ from DSA Keycaps, are they flatter ?

Based on what they said from the GB page, they use the DSA spacebar, i assume the hight should be similar. The difference i can tell is the finish of the surface and their keys are significant thicker.

GEIST · « **Reply #10 on:** Sat, 29 October 2016, 17:05:37 »

It seems the height is not exactly similar. Here you can find some detailed comparison

dyoungc · « **Reply #11 on:** Thu, 03 November 2016, 12:49:31 »

I know the Q-series is shorter and flatter than DSA caps.
How about K-series and SA? Aside from wall thickness, is there a difference b/w the two profiles?

Omnipotent · « **Reply #12 on:** Sat, 05 November 2016, 11:03:07 »

Quote from: GEIST on Sat, 29 October 2016, 17:05:37

It seems the height is not exactly similar. Here you can find some detailed comparison

There we go, thats the kind of keyboard science we're looking for.

They make those K-Series keys really thick. Definitely some short DSA-like keys. Those stems kinda scare me though. Last thing I want is broken stems. :/

Hypocaffeinic · « **Reply #13 on:** Sun, 13 November 2016, 23:31:03 »

Will there be any left over sets available in January? I was all set to join both this one & Rad Away but a big ass vet bill has nuked my spare funds.

afrokobe · « **Reply #14 on:** Sun, 25 December 2016, 19:09:21 »

What is the expected ship date for the US?

dante · « **Reply #15 on:** Sun, 08 January 2017, 21:21:36 »

Quote from: afrokobe on Sun, 25 December 2016, 19:09:21

What is the expected ship date for the US?

According to their website January 10th so Tuesday.

UKKeycaps can you give an update?

dante · « **Reply #16 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 07:57:28 »

Shipping today?

GEIST · « **Reply #17 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 10:25:14 »

I posted the same question tonight at deskthority, cause I've noticed UKKeycaps was online there, but since there isn't an answer nor any update since some while I really doubt it. Hopefully there will be some news soon.

need · « **Reply #18 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 10:37:08 »

"Life problems" got in the way as usual...? Don't group buyers see the responsibility in leaving even a short message?

dante · « **Reply #19 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 12:28:28 »

Per rededit:

Quote from: UKKeycaps

An email will go around today

UKKeycaps · « **Reply #20 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 13:43:01 »

An email will be sent around this evening to all customers!

dante · « **Reply #21 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 13:52:24 »

Quote from: UKKeycaps on Tue, 10 January 2017, 13:43:01

An email will be sent around this evening to all customers!

dante · « **Reply #22 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 18:58:50 »

Quote from: UKKeycaps

Skidata & Rad-Away Group-Buy Update
Thank you all for making the first Devlin keyset group-buys a success!

Before giving an update on the status of the group-buy I first would like to offer my apologies for the lack of communication over the last 3 weeks, The Christmas and New Year break was a turbulent time for the future of UKKeycaps and MechSupply and the business is now starting to recover.

Unfortunately, due to these internal pressures and external delays (Devlin & Signature Plastics) the estimated shipping date has been delayed by 6 weeks to the 21st of February. This shipping date is an estimate and is not guaranteed (such is the nature of group-buys!) and I offer my apologies for this delay.

Additionally Devlin has let me know of some issues during the manufacturer of the keycaps to the original design, unfortunately after the order was placed. The K-Series Rad-Away Planck keyset will NOT have homing bumps, according to Devlin this is due to a lack of tooling, simply meaning they do not have the mould to create these keys. The keyset will be supplied in full, however the F and J key will not have homing bumps.

Devlin have also informed me that they do not have the moulds for 2.25u and 2.75u keycaps in Q-Series, and instead these keycaps will be produced in QS-Series for the Skidata set. QS-Series is essentially Q-Series but with a slightly profiled bottom edge. Therefore this change will make only a slight visual change to the keyset and no functional change. An image of the two profiles is shown below - the QS key is on the left and in use the raised profiled edge is on the bottom of the keycap. Please note the Q-Series Skidata set WILL have homing bumps.

Taking into account these changes and the delay, if any customer would like a full refund you can reply to this email requesting so. You can also do so via the contact form on the website at anytime. Apologies again for any inconvinience.

dante · « **Reply #23 on:** Tue, 10 January 2017, 19:45:37 »

This keyset is turning into a profile sampler. ISO = four different profiles??

pdc · « **Reply #24 on:** Wed, 11 January 2017, 02:45:42 »

Risks of doing a thing for the first time, I guess. Part of the calculation I took in to account when joining the group buy.

I am still looking forward in seeing how this set turns out, quirks and all. :-)

Freed · « **Reply #25 on:** Wed, 11 January 2017, 03:00:12 »

http://i.imgur.com/290grmw.png
Estimated Shipping Date: ~~10th Jan 2017~~ 21st Feb 2017
http://www.mechsupply.co.uk/product/q-series-skidata-double-shot-keyset

need · « **Reply #26 on:** Wed, 11 January 2017, 07:23:14 »

Changing Q-Series to QS-Series profiles is "only a slight visual change" and "no functional change"?

[MechSupply] UKKeycaps Q-Series Skidata Keyset (Produced by Devlin)

...Are you sure about that?

dante · « **Reply #27 on:** Wed, 11 January 2017, 09:15:03 »

When I first read about Q profile I was super excited; so much so that I didn't care what color way they went with and was ready to buy multiple sets on day 1. And then it was revealed it would use a DSA space bar instead and that had me going back and forth. Just before the GB ended I purchased 1 set.

Now this happens... I mean 1st world problems right? But people shouldn't shell out over a hundred dollars on something they are not in love with.

HOWEVER to be more positive I do have a suggestion. Is it too late to add a "Minivan/40% rescue pack"? The non-standard kit could use a couple of blank enter keys amongst other things. I am NOT a Minivan/40% layout expert but maybe someone here is and can suggest additional keys.

I don't know how much of a logistical nightmare this would be and who will be footing the bill. If Devlin dropped the ball maybe they will add them and/or give a discount.

This would at least build a mini board using ALL Q series profile keycaps.

UKKeycaps what do you think?

dante · « **Reply #28 on:** Wed, 11 January 2017, 09:35:22 »

BTW I posted an SOS in the main forum looking for suggestions on theoretical keycaps to add for mini layouts.

dante · « **Reply #29 on:** Wed, 11 January 2017, 09:48:38 »

Does Devlin have Q series molds for a 1.75" shift key?

GEIST · « **Reply #30 on:** Wed, 11 January 2017, 11:33:44 »

A planck set or a Ergodox set would also be possible, BUT even if the planck or the Ergodox has some users, it's just a tiny minority. I guess it's even more worse with the minivan.

UKKeycaps · « **Reply #31 on:** Wed, 11 January 2017, 15:30:44 »

Quote from: need on Wed, 11 January 2017, 07:23:14

Changing Q-Series to QS-Series profiles is "only a slight visual change" and "no functional change"?

(Attachment Link)

...Are you sure about that?

That image was included in the email sent to all customers, so it's not like it's a secret.

Devlin informed me of these changes after the order was placed, I am not too thrilled with it either, but people will over-play how much this will effect the aesthetics of the keyset.

I'll say again - if anyone you like a refund do not hesitate to contact via the webpage!

EDIT: In terms of the posts regarding other layouts, it is too late to consider for this group-buy. Future group-buys will support more layouts.

Moses Williams · « **Reply #32 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 17:24:44 »

Sorry I'm a noob. So this effects both shift keys and the enter key?

dante · « **Reply #33 on:** Mon, 16 January 2017, 17:41:52 »

Quote from: Moses Williams on Mon, 16 January 2017, 17:24:44

Sorry I'm a noob. So this effects both shift keys and the enter key?

It only effects the shift keys. The ISO enter is another profile; ANSI enter should still be Q.

Moses Williams · « **Reply #34 on:** Tue, 17 January 2017, 08:48:34 »

Quote from: dante on Mon, 16 January 2017, 17:41:52

Quote from: Moses Williams on Mon, 16 January 2017, 17:24:44
Sorry I'm a noob. So this effects both shift keys and the enter key?

It only effects the shift keys. The ISO enter is another profile; ANSI enter should still be Q.

Isn't the ANSI enter 2.25u?

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Return_key#ANSI

GEIST · « **Reply #35 on:** Tue, 17 January 2017, 11:02:56 »

You're right. In ANSI both shift keys and the enter key are affected, in ISO only the right shift key.

Moses Williams · « **Reply #36 on:** Thu, 19 January 2017, 11:21:14 »

This is hard. Basically I don't know if it is going to look and/or feel strange with those different profiles on those keys. Hard to find any pictures of those profiles side by side on a board as well.

UKKeycaps · « **Reply #37 on:** Thu, 19 January 2017, 17:21:05 »

Quote from: Moses Williams on Thu, 19 January 2017, 11:21:14

This is hard. Basically I don't know if it is going to look and/or feel strange with those different profiles on those keys. Hard to find any pictures of those profiles side by side on a board as well.

That's becasue this is the first keyset in this/these profile(s)

Moses Williams · « **Reply #38 on:** Sun, 22 January 2017, 14:22:45 »

Quote from: UKKeycaps on Thu, 19 January 2017, 17:21:05

Quote from: Moses Williams on Thu, 19 January 2017, 11:21:14
This is hard. Basically I don't know if it is going to look and/or feel strange with those different profiles on those keys. Hard to find any pictures of those profiles side by side on a board as well.

That's becasue this is the first keyset in this/these profile(s)

Surely this being the first keyset in this/these profiles doesn't preclude the existence of an image with them side by side on a keyboard, given that there are in existence images of them separately and an image of them back to back on a table.

wodan · « **Reply #39 on:** Thu, 16 February 2017, 02:28:31 »

How likely will these keycaps ship on 21st of Feb?

GEIST · « **Reply #40 on:** Thu, 16 February 2017, 11:18:06 »

I was about asking the same.

UKKeycaps · « **Reply #41 on:** Thu, 16 February 2017, 12:32:18 »

Further update with pictures (hopefully) will go out soon-ish

Burt Macklin · « **Reply #42 on:** Mon, 20 February 2017, 16:15:34 »

So, about that update ..

GEIST · « **Reply #43 on:** Tue, 21 February 2017, 14:37:05 »

...and about the estimated shipping date. Things can go wrong and I bet it's not your fault, BUT the lack of communication is a bit worrying. I personally start to think about requesting a refund and not cause I don't want to wait a few more days, but cause I starting to loose confidence about this group buy.

UKKeycaps · « **Reply #44 on:** Tue, 21 February 2017, 15:04:26 »

An email update will go around later tonight.

I will post the email update here once it's been sent.

EDIT: It will be tomorrow instead (22nd) as I don't have all the info I need currently

BillyBuerger · « **Reply #45 on:** Tue, 21 February 2017, 21:17:06 »

I hope it's good news. The fact your website was updated to say "late February" sounds promising as that's only one more week.

dante · « **Reply #46 on:** Wed, 22 February 2017, 09:21:12 »

Get ready for a 5th profile!

UKKeycaps · « **Reply #47 on:** Wed, 22 February 2017, 18:40:31 »

Not a 5th profile, but an as equally upsetting change to one of the keysets

You can read the email update here: http://us12.campaign-archive1.com/?u=7ec8feb8af5335d32906c9f46&id=dcbc8bb5de

I'm aware of lot of customers will want refunds due to this colour change, apologies to all who have been discouraged by the events of this group-buy.

rozakiin · « **Reply #48 on:** Wed, 22 February 2017, 19:08:50 »

Seem a dramatic color change for Devlin to go ahead with manufacture on, especially as they have produced that dark green before.

johntron25 · « **Reply #49 on:** Thu, 23 February 2017, 00:53:25 »

Glad i asked for a refund.

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Author Topic: [MechSupply] UKKeycaps Q-Series Skidata Keyset (Produced by Devlin) (Read 94773 times)