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Happy Chinese New Year everyone!

GB for Fr87 will start on Feb. 18th 0:00 a.m. PST  ;D

And here are the detailed pricing:

KIT OPTIONS:

  • Full Kit with Half Plate (WK or WKL Aluminum case, PCB, Aluminum Half Plate, Aluminum Weight, plastic feet and screws)  -  $368 Shipping included, DHL
  • Full Kit with Full Plate (WK or WKL Aluminum case, PCB, Aluminum Full Plate, Aluminum Weight, plastic feet and screws)  -  $368 Shipping included, DHL
  • Upgrade to Gold PVD Brass Plate  -  + $30
  • Upgrade to Gold PVD Brass Weight  -  + $25
  • Upgrade to American Black Walnut Weight  -  + $35
  • Colors for case: Speed Silver, Cool Gray, Dark Black, Tactical Blue
  • Colors for Aluminum Plate: Silver, Gray, Black
  • Colors for Aluminum Weight: Gray, Black

EXTRAS:

  • Extra Aluminum Half or Full Plate  -  $20
  • Extra Gold PVD Brass Half or Full Plate  -  $65
  • Extra Aluminum Weight  -  $20
  • Extra Gold PVD Brass Weight  -  $55
  • Extra American Black Walnut Weight  -  $65
  • Extra PCB  -  $70

Case Colors and WK/WKL:
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Aluminum Plate Colors and PVD Brass:
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Current plan for the PCB is a Matte Black PCB, what do you guys think?




Feb12 2018 Update

Elemento and us has worked out a GB date. The GB should begin on Feb 18th, which is roughly a week after this update.

Elemento received the quote from the factory, and we will be announcing the pricing on Feb 16 as requested by them ;). As always, the price will have shipping included and still be in the 300-400 range without upgrades.

Here's a little more details for the board:

There will be a serial number for each board sold, so we will be opening the GB at an exact time of the day. TIME TBD.

For the following days, I will be keep updating this post:

  • you will see the WKL case
  • you will have a animated preview of the side RGB strip

and I will answer all questions at my best.

Here's some render showcasing the colors:

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Feb8 2018 -2 update
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NEW RENDERS!

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Deep Blue case w/ light and dark plates
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Plates with your favorite PVD Brass
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Bottom design
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Please tell me what you guys think :thumb:


Feb8 2018 Update

We are looking for a possible GB during the CNY :)

Major updates from ELEMENTO! Here are some more details:


The FR87 kit will come with:
  • Top Housing (6 series Aluminum, WKL version with blockers and WK version without blockers)
  • Plate (Aluminum, half-plate, ISO support, switch top removal, and PVD brass plate and full plate CONFIRMED)
  • PCB (ISO support, WKL and WK layout support, USB-C, Bluetooth)
  • Bottom Housing (6 series Aluminum)
  • Weight (Aluminum, Brass, and American Black Walnut)
  • Light Effects ( 2 RGB light strips, per key SMD RGB LEDs)
  • Colors (Speed Silver, Dark Black, Deep Gray, Tactical Blue) for the cases and the Alu plate
  • 4 DIP setting (Ctrl / Caps swapping, locking WIN key, WIN / Alt swapping for MAC, Disabling light effects)

more renders coming in soon! ;)



Initial Post
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We are proud to announce our first collab, FR87, with ELEMENTO, a Californian design studio of a group of talented enthusiasts.

zFrontier will be running the IC and the future GB for FR87 by Elemento’s request.

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FR87 is Elemento’s debut in the custom mechanical keyboard community. FR87 will feature a half-plate and Bluetooth design.




Jan 23, 2018

Concept

Elegant and modern, FR87 is designed to be the centerpiece of your desk. Enabled by either USB-C or Bluetooth connection, FR87 is perfect for any typing scenarios. This beauty also utilizes a half-plate design which is only implemented in a few premium custom keyboards for a unique typing experience. Two RGB LED ambient light strips are placed on the sides of the keyboard which will not only highlight the cutting edges of the bottom case but also work as indication lights.

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closeup↓
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Design

FR87 features multiple cutting edges and beveled designs to provide a modern and sleek aesthetic.

This keyboard has a mild incline.

The case will be made from CNC machined aluminum with an anodized finish.

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Bluetooth

FR87 will support both USB-C and Bluetooth connection. Wireless mode will be powered by AA(AAA) batteries.




New renders with a sneak peak of case colors!
Keycaps: GMK Ocean Dolch

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More coming soon… stay tuned.
« Last Edit: Sun, 18 February 2018, 00:11:55 by zFrontier »
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 09:21:37 »
Sign me up

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 09:22:45 »
Looks wonderful... I'm in

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 09:25:11 »
Sexy! Looking forward to seeing where this goes.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 09:51:36 »
This seems very nice.

Will you offer an ISO variant?

Will the half plate have switch cuts to allow the opening of switches without desoldering?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 10:25:19 »
No WKL?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 11:25:43 »
Yes, we need MORE bluetooth keyboards

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 11:35:31 »
I like what I see.
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« Reply #8 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 11:44:02 »
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 12:10:05 »
Gonna need more details on this one before i come to any conclusions.
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 12:36:23 »
TKL + Bluetooth + Zfrontier = looking good if the price is right.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 16:42:26 »
I'm loving that low profile from the side.

I know it would be a totally different product, but I'd love a full or 96 sized version of this. Count me in for one of those, and good luck with this one!

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 19:35:37 »
not bad
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 20:28:53 »
Seems interesting, going to have to see the rest of the case to decide. Bluetooth tkl does sound like it would tickle my whistle though.



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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 22 January 2018, 22:06:16 »
Is it only bluetooth or are there options for wired connections?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 00:37:59 »
Is this in collaboration with thesiscamper? Cause this looks exactly like his kira boards.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 03:22:45 »
Is it only bluetooth or are there options for wired connections?

supports both wired and wireless connection
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 03:30:01 »
Whats the point of having a half plate? Aesthetics? It makes more firm only the less used keys (spacebar apart).

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 08:33:01 »
Whats the point of having a half plate? Aesthetics? It makes more firm only the less used keys (spacebar apart).

I'd like to know about this too.
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 08:35:04 »
Can anyone explain what half plate means please?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 08:42:29 »
Can anyone explain what half plate means please?

If you look at the renders you can see that the plate only covers modifiers, not alphas - other customs have done this in the past and some people really like the way it feels, so much so that there have been small runs of half plates for already existing custom keyboards. I've never personally tried it so I can't provide insight as for how it differs from a full plate but yea.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 09:33:31 »
Benefit of 1/2 plate is having the the alphas with no plate AND top mounted, right? Both lead to a less harsh bottoming out, which is especially nice on linear switches. I think even better would be top mount with no plate at all, but this is a nice concept too.  Has anyone ever done a top mounted PCB?

I like that it is different in style.  I like that it is USB-C.  I like that it has bluetooth and wired connection.  I think it's going on my list.

My only complaint is the angle.  I wish it was 8deg instead of 6.
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 09:42:10 »
Looks really nice. Interested, depending on price.

For what it's worth... the back seems to be wasted space, imo. A neat underglow element here would be nice.
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« Reply #23 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 12:16:48 »
Awesome, very interested. Is there a winkeyless option in plan?
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 15:41:58 »
Awesome, very interested. Is there a winkeyless option in plan?

WKL is an option in plan
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 15:44:38 »
I'm sure they'll work it out, but I wonder how the board doesn't tip when you press the top outer keys like page up and escape
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« Reply #26 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 15:50:42 »
Can anyone explain what half plate means please?

Vigrith and reececonrad did a good job explaining ;) go check their reply. And, thank you Vigrith and reececonrad for explaining.

As for you previous questions:

ISO support is under discussion and Elemento’s working on a new plate that supports switch top removal.
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 15:54:22 »
I'm sure they'll work it out, but I wonder how the board doesn't tip when you press the top outer keys like page up and escape

We will have a heavy and sturdy bottom. Rest assured.

BTW, thank you all for the love and input! More renders and details coming soon!
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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 16:53:04 »
From the render, it looks like the switches are going to be mounted with the LEDs on top?  R3 GMK keys will have some conflicts on bottoming out on the LEDs if LEDs are installed, correct?
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 17:06:48 »
Now this is interesting
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« Reply #30 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 17:17:56 »
From the render, it looks like the switches are going to be mounted with the LEDs on top?  R3 GMK keys will have some conflicts on bottoming out on the LEDs if LEDs are installed, correct?

I didn't notice before, but yes, that would be a problem.  Unfortunately I cannot buy a board with switches placed in this orientation because of reasons mentioned above.
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« Reply #31 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 20:58:17 »
I don't think north-facing LED is a good option. Is the PCB design too far along to get this changed?
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« Reply #32 on: Tue, 23 January 2018, 21:29:55 »
Really cool! But hopefully this doesn’t use North inswitch LEDs...

South facing inswitch LEDs please!

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« Reply #33 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 01:55:29 »
USB-C and Bluetooth in a nice form factor, and gorgeous to boot! I'm in.

I'd speculate the half-plate is a design concession to improve the bluetooth signal.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 02:29:47 »
From the render, it looks like the switches are going to be mounted with the LEDs on top?  R3 GMK keys will have some conflicts on bottoming out on the LEDs if LEDs are installed, correct?

I didn't notice before, but yes, that would be a problem.  Unfortunately I cannot buy a board with switches placed in this orientation because of reasons mentioned above.

We will be changing them to south facing leds.
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« Reply #35 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 02:39:59 »
can this be had with out Bluetooth? As its just a feature I never use and would add to the overall price.. also what sort of price tag are we looking at. Overall this thing looks amazing thought.

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« Reply #36 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 03:18:14 »
can this be had with out Bluetooth? As its just a feature I never use and would add to the overall price.. also what sort of price tag are we looking at. Overall this thing looks amazing thought.

maybe it will help with the resale price, if you ever decide to get rid of it?

gon bluetooth modules cost 50 usd. In an heavily optimized production, I wonder if it will cost more than 20 usd, including the battery.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #37 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 03:19:07 »
What's the price of this keyboard? Are we looking at 200 USD or 400 USD?

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« Reply #38 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 06:38:27 »
This looks awesome! Would love ISO support to be added!

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« Reply #39 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 07:06:40 »
This looks awesome! Would love ISO support to be added!

ISO would be possible
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« Reply #40 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 07:12:44 »
This looks awesome! Would love ISO support to be added!

ISO would be possible

Fantastic! I will be in as soon as it's available!

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« Reply #41 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 07:15:00 »
Beautiful renders.  Well done.

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« Reply #42 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 07:17:04 »
From the render, it looks like the switches are going to be mounted with the LEDs on top?  R3 GMK keys will have some conflicts on bottoming out on the LEDs if LEDs are installed, correct?

I didn't notice before, but yes, that would be a problem.  Unfortunately I cannot buy a board with switches placed in this orientation because of reasons mentioned above.

We will be changing them to south facing leds.

Great! 
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 08:26:24 »
Price range?
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« Reply #44 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 12:23:25 »
Price range? Hot swap switches / holtite supported pcb?

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« Reply #45 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 20:48:53 »
I guess the only real questions left are price and material. Is the board going to be 100% aluminum, will there be a brass weight, and what about the plate material? The way I read the description makes me want to assume that you guys are planning on pricing this as around the average custom tkl range, but if so I would like some more details about the construction. Its early in the IC, so I know not everything is probably finished design wise either, but would love to see some further details about it in the near future.



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« Reply #46 on: Wed, 24 January 2018, 22:48:37 »
H - I - J - K - Elemento - P

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 25 January 2018, 02:06:52 »
just found this thread...so is this going to be half plate only?


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« Reply #48 on: Thu, 25 January 2018, 02:09:31 »
Price range? Hot swap switches / holtite supported pcb?

what I can gain from the pictures and what some other's have said hotswap/holtite would be impossible with this board. As its half plate and wouldn't have anything to secure the switches in. Other then the holtite sockets them self's.

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« Reply #49 on: Thu, 25 January 2018, 08:21:36 »
Hot swap without a plate is a bad idea.
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