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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 26 January 2018, 02:45:51 »
Love what I see! I'm likely in, depending on price and how prototypes look like.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 26 January 2018, 03:24:21 »
Price range? Hot swap switches / holtite supported pcb?

FR87 will not have holtite support due to the current design
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 26 January 2018, 03:34:08 »
Definetely interested if the price is reasonable

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 26 January 2018, 06:08:09 »
I guess the only real questions left are price and material. Is the board going to be 100% aluminum, will there be a brass weight, and what about the plate material? The way I read the description makes me want to assume that you guys are planning on pricing this as around the average custom tkl range, but if so I would like some more details about the construction. Its early in the IC, so I know not everything is probably finished design wise either, but would love to see some further details about it in the near future.

Many things are still under discussion and yet to be finished.

The plate will be aluminum. And Elemento is now finalizing the bottom design, and of course there will be a weight or an accent.

More details coming soon!
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 26 January 2018, 06:57:35 »
SWEET ! ! !

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 26 January 2018, 07:24:28 »
Updated with new renders! Hope you guys enjoy.
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth Coming soon…
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 26 January 2018, 07:27:11 »
TKL + Bluetooth + Zfrontier = looking good if the price is right.

SWEET ! ! !

Beautiful renders.  Well done.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 26 January 2018, 18:49:45 »
Looks pretty cool, iso and wkl support is definitely needed for it  ;D

Edit: and just saw that it is, perfect. I'm getting very tempted on this one :)
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 26 January 2018, 19:15:56 »
Any estimates on battery life? How easy will it be to replace the batteries/repair the keyboard? I'm very interested in a wireless keyboard but don't want to have to unscrew things to replace the battery or engage in pairing.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #59 on: Sat, 27 January 2018, 15:06:12 »
Any estimates on battery life? How easy will it be to replace the batteries/repair the keyboard? I'm very interested in a wireless keyboard but don't want to have to unscrew things to replace the battery or engage in pairing.

Speaking of battery life, I may have missed it but is there some form of a battery indicator? I remember that was one of the issues with the Anne Pro.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 29 January 2018, 18:32:41 »
Option to have full switch plate? Maybe it is an issue with BT antenna to have a full plate.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 03:33:20 »
Looks like this is getting some interest. Here's a link to a board where the FR87 is heavily inspired from as you can tell. It also has multiple prototypes made, not just renders :thumb: :thumb:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93747.0;topicseen

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 06:56:54 »
Is this in collaboration with thesiscamper? Cause this looks exactly like his kira boards.

Looks like this is getting some interest. Here's a link to a board where the FR87 is heavily inspired from as you can tell. It also has multiple prototypes made, not just renders :thumb: :thumb:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93747.0;topicseen


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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 08:48:22 »
Looks like this is getting some interest. Here's a link to a board where the FR87 is heavily inspired from as you can tell. It also has multiple prototypes made, not just renders :thumb: :thumb:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93747.0;topicseen

I'm not really seeing it. I mean are we talking about the angled bottom that looks somewhat similar between both boards? Hardly looks like heavy inspiration to me.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 09:13:58 »
I'm not sure if I'm interested yet, but I'll follow the thread for updates. Very neat design.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #65 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 09:33:19 »
Is this in collaboration with thesiscamper? Cause this looks exactly like his kira boards.

Looks like this is getting some interest. Here's a link to a board where the FR87 is heavily inspired from as you can tell. It also has multiple prototypes made, not just renders :thumb: :thumb:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93747.0;topicseen

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It is similar, and I care. But I'm not big enough that a significant number of people will care, like how some guys nitpick about similar colors in keysets, or pedantic bull**** like a compact 1800 vs an 1800 moniker. Why don't you post that meme where you actually belong, for points?


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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 10:21:06 »
It is similar, and I care. But I'm not big enough that a significant number of people will care, like how some guys nitpick about similar colors in keysets, or pedantic bull**** like a compact 1800 vs an 1800 moniker. Why don't you post that meme where you actually belong, for points?

I was arguing about the Chinese Carbon copy on Reddit yesterday in favour of Tombery and his original design being protected; as you said, it seems to be something they care very little for over there because I mostly got downvoted which is something I never expected at all.

That said, I really don't see the similarities between this board and your designs as being super blatant - maybe I'm not looking at the right angle but it seems fairly distinctive, aside from the angled bottom portion in its side profile I think it looks pretty much completely different. Better safe than sorry, however, and if it does bother you and if it's something you and ZF can figure out then I think that'd be for the best.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #67 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 10:28:39 »
It is similar, and I care. But I'm not big enough that a significant number of people will care, like how some guys nitpick about similar colors in keysets, or pedantic bull**** like a compact 1800 vs an 1800 moniker. Why don't you post that meme where you actually belong, for points?

I was arguing about the Chinese Carbon copy on Reddit yesterday in favour of Tombery and his original design being protected; as you said, it seems to be something they care very little for over there because I mostly got downvoted which is something I never expected at all.

That said, I really don't see the similarities between this board and your designs as being super blatant - maybe I'm not looking at the right angle but it seems fairly distinctive, aside from the angled bottom portion in its side profile I think it looks pretty much completely different. Better safe than sorry, however, and if it does bother you and if it's something you and ZF can figure out then I think that'd be for the best.
I said it's similar, not blatantly similar. And I didn't know about this board until it was linked to me, so saying nobody cares is really annoying.

I already talked to ZF days ago, he even said he can see my concern, and I said it's different "enough". I care but I chose to keep silent. Well, until I see people talk ****.

It's funny people choose to see what they see, choosing what they want to support and condemn as long as it's convenient and in line with their interests.


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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 10:28:59 »
Looks like this is getting some interest. Here's a link to a board where the FR87 is heavily inspired from as you can tell. It also has multiple prototypes made, not just renders :thumb: :thumb:

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93747.0;topicseen

I'm not really seeing it. I mean are we talking about the angled bottom that looks somewhat similar between both boards? Hardly looks like heavy inspiration to me.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 10:50:20 »
I said it's similar, not blatantly similar. And I didn't know about this board until it was linked to me, so saying nobody cares is really annoying.

I already talked to ZF days ago, he even said he can see my concern, and I said it's different "enough". I care but I chose to keep silent. Well, until I see people talk ****.

It's funny people choose to see what they see, choosing what they want to support and condemn as long as it's convenient and in line with their interests.

Yea I'm aware, I wasn't trying to imply you said it was blatant. I agree, saying nobody cares is pretty silly indeed; even if you're not associated with either of the designs yourself (like the guy posting isn't) saying stuff like that is hardly warranted or funny.

I think your approach is for the better, from an outside stand point as said I definitely feel like it's different enough so that no one's upset that there's toes being stepped on. Commendable that you didn't pursue the affair publicly.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #70 on: Tue, 30 January 2018, 11:54:33 »
It is similar, and I care. But I'm not big enough that a significant number of people will care, like how some guys nitpick about similar colors in keysets, or pedantic bull**** like a compact 1800 vs an 1800 moniker. Why don't you post that meme where you actually belong, for points?

Don't get your panties in a bunch about a joke meme and some keyboard that "maybe possibly" the bottom looks like your design. It seems you're also upset about me pointing out a keyboard posted on the place "where I belong" was a compact 1800 and not an 1800, or was it the engraving comment that did it?

Sorry for upsetting you Mr. thesiscamper, try not to take things so personally when strangers on the internet have comments or opinions and have a nice day.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan26
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 04 February 2018, 09:12:12 »
i'm In

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #72 on: Wed, 07 February 2018, 21:58:24 »
Feb8 2018

We are looking for a possible GB during the CNY :)

Major updates from ELEMENTO! Here are some more details:


The FR87 kit will come with:
  • Top Housing (6 series Aluminum, WKL version with blockers and WK version without blockers)
  • Plate (Aluminum, half-plate, ISO support, switch top removal, and Elemento is planning a PVD brass plate and a full plate if possible)
  • PCB (ISO support, WKL and WK layout support, USB-C, Bluetooth)
  • Bottom Housing (6 series Aluminum)
  • Weight (Aluminum, Brass, and American Black Walnut)
  • Light Effects ( 2 RGB light strips, per key SMD RGB LEDs)
  • Colors (Speed Silver, Dark Black, Deep Gray, Tactical Blue) for the cases and the Alu plate
  • 4 DIP setting (Ctrl / Caps swapping, locking WIN key, WIN / Alt swapping for MAC, Disabling light effects)

more renders coming in soon! ;)
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 07 February 2018, 22:05:26 »
Feb8 2018

We are looking for a possible GB during the CNY :)

Major updates from ELEMENTO! Here are some more details:


The FR87 kit will come with:
  • Top Housing (6 series Aluminum, WKL version with blockers and WK version without blockers)
  • Plate (Aluminum, half-plate, ISO support, switch top removal, and Elemento is planning a PVD brass plate and a full plate if possible)
  • PCB (ISO support, WKL and WK layout support, USB-C, Bluetooth)
  • Bottom Housing (6 series Aluminum)
  • Weight (Aluminum, Brass, and American Black Walnut)
  • Light Effects ( 2 RGB light strips, per key SMD RGB LEDs)
  • Colors (Speed Silver, Dark Black, Deep Gray, Tactical Blue) for the cases and the Alu plate
  • 4 DIP setting (Ctrl / Caps swapping, locking WIN key, WIN / Alt swapping for MAC, Disabling light effects)

more renders coming in soon! ;)

Nice features!  Looking forward to more photos in the future
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #74 on: Wed, 07 February 2018, 22:38:51 »
Feb8 2018

We are looking for a possible GB during the CNY :)

Major updates from ELEMENTO! Here are some more details:


The FR87 kit will come with:
  • Top Housing (6 series Aluminum, WKL version with blockers and WK version without blockers)
  • Plate (Aluminum, half-plate, ISO support, switch top removal, and Elemento is planning a PVD brass plate and a full plate if possible)
  • PCB (ISO support, WKL and WK layout support, USB-C, Bluetooth)
  • Bottom Housing (6 series Aluminum)
  • Weight (Aluminum, Brass, and American Black Walnut)
  • Light Effects ( 2 RGB light strips, per key SMD RGB LEDs)
  • Colors (Speed Silver, Dark Black, Deep Gray, Tactical Blue) for the cases and the Alu plate
  • 4 DIP setting (Ctrl / Caps swapping, locking WIN key, WIN / Alt swapping for MAC, Disabling light effects)

more renders coming in soon! ;)
No red color?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #75 on: Wed, 07 February 2018, 23:26:50 »
Feb8 2018

We are looking for a possible GB during the CNY :)

Major updates from ELEMENTO! Here are some more details:


The FR87 kit will come with:
  • Top Housing (6 series Aluminum, WKL version with blockers and WK version without blockers)
  • Plate (Aluminum, half-plate, ISO support, switch top removal, and Elemento is planning a PVD brass plate and a full plate if possible)
  • PCB (ISO support, WKL and WK layout support, USB-C, Bluetooth)
  • Bottom Housing (6 series Aluminum)
  • Weight (Aluminum, Brass, and American Black Walnut)
  • Light Effects ( 2 RGB light strips, per key SMD RGB LEDs)
  • Colors (Speed Silver, Dark Black, Deep Gray, Tactical Blue) for the cases and the Alu plate
  • 4 DIP setting (Ctrl / Caps swapping, locking WIN key, WIN / Alt swapping for MAC, Disabling light effects)

more renders coming in soon! ;)

A wooden weight? Haven't seen that before. I'm getting more and more excited about this, but that depends on the answer to my next question. Do we have any price points yet?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #76 on: Wed, 07 February 2018, 23:28:04 »
Feb8 2018

We are looking for a possible GB during the CNY :)

Major updates from ELEMENTO! Here are some more details:


The FR87 kit will come with:
  • Top Housing (6 series Aluminum, WKL version with blockers and WK version without blockers)
  • Plate (Aluminum, half-plate, ISO support, switch top removal, and Elemento is planning a PVD brass plate and a full plate if possible)
  • PCB (ISO support, WKL and WK layout support, USB-C, Bluetooth)
  • Bottom Housing (6 series Aluminum)
  • Weight (Aluminum, Brass, and American Black Walnut)
  • Light Effects ( 2 RGB light strips, per key SMD RGB LEDs)
  • Colors (Speed Silver, Dark Black, Deep Gray, Tactical Blue) for the cases and the Alu plate
  • 4 DIP setting (Ctrl / Caps swapping, locking WIN key, WIN / Alt swapping for MAC, Disabling light effects)

more renders coming in soon! ;)
No red color?

No red  :(
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #77 on: Wed, 07 February 2018, 23:35:39 »
Price

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 00:18:44 »
Price

i believe the price will be in the 300-400 range
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #79 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 00:37:20 »
switch top removal = hot swap for switches?

price range isn't bad considering all the perks in this, bluetooth, half plate (if that's a bonus) etc

also, i can't decide if WKL or WK is the way to go...any pros/cons to help me decide?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #80 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 00:54:15 »
switch top removal = hot swap for switches?

price range isn't bad considering all the perks in this, bluetooth, half plate (if that's a bonus) etc

also, i can't decide if WKL or WK is the way to go...any pros/cons to help me decide?

switch top removal is not hot swap. It means that you can remove the top housings of the switches right of the plate without the need of desoldering them.

It makes it easier to modify your switches
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #81 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 01:11:48 »
switch top removal = hot swap for switches?

price range isn't bad considering all the perks in this, bluetooth, half plate (if that's a bonus) etc

also, i can't decide if WKL or WK is the way to go...any pros/cons to help me decide?

switch top removal is not hot swap. It means that you can remove the top housings of the switches right of the plate without the need of desoldering them.

It makes it easier to modify your switches

gotcha, like lubing and etc

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #82 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 01:19:15 »
switch top removal = hot swap for switches?

price range isn't bad considering all the perks in this, bluetooth, half plate (if that's a bonus) etc

also, i can't decide if WKL or WK is the way to go...any pros/cons to help me decide?

switch top removal is not hot swap. It means that you can remove the top housings of the switches right of the plate without the need of desoldering them.

It makes it easier to modify your switches

gotcha, like lubing and etc

yup lubing, swapping stems etc
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #83 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 02:50:48 »
> Wireless mode will be powered by AA(AAA) batteries

Not that this is a bad thing, but this will mean that we'll have to replace the batteries instead of simply plugging the keyboard to a usb cable to recharge it?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #84 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 02:54:34 »
Confirmed that FR87 is getting a full plate! :thumb:
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #85 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 03:04:22 »
> Wireless mode will be powered by AA(AAA) batteries

Not that this is a bad thing, but this will mean that we'll have to replace the batteries instead of simply plugging the keyboard to a usb cable to recharge it?

Will be working with the factory to see if they will work out a recharging solution with AAA batteries ;) The main concern was shipping and handling a lithium battery would be difficult. But we do see rechargeable battery is a demand
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan23
« Reply #86 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 03:26:11 »
Price range?

Hopefully this will be in a 300-400 USD range
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #87 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 04:04:07 »
Confirmed that FR87 is getting a full plate! :thumb:
That's nice

Will there be a prototype or at least anod samples before the group buy starts?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #88 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 05:06:09 »
Confirmed that FR87 is getting a full plate! :thumb:
That's nice

Will there be a prototype or at least anod samples before the group buy starts?

Elemento does have a very early prototype, we will see if he's willing to reveal it ;)
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #89 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 07:11:50 »
Confirmed that FR87 is getting a full plate! :thumb:

now that we know this kit has full plate support, will the the pcb be hotswapable or support hotlites?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth All new renders! Feb8
« Reply #90 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 12:29:06 »
Some latest renders from elemento updated in OP, enjoy :thumb:
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth All new renders! Feb8
« Reply #91 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 13:26:06 »
Looks beautiful!

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[IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth All new renders! Feb8
« Reply #92 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 13:26:43 »
What are the advantages/differences between a half and full plate?

What is also the timeframe of production once GB ends?

I'm liking the walnut weight. It adds a classic elegant feeling to it like going inside an interior of a car with wood finishes.

I agree of being rechargable battery instead of using AA batteries.
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #93 on: Thu, 08 February 2018, 15:34:04 »
Feb8 2018

We are looking for a possible GB during the CNY :)

Major updates from ELEMENTO! Here are some more details:


The FR87 kit will come with:
  • 4 DIP setting (Ctrl / Caps swapping, locking WIN key, WIN / Alt swapping for MAC, Disabling light effects)

more renders coming in soon! ;)

Nice features!  Looking forward to more photos in the future

Does that mean it is not programmable?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth UPDATED Jan8
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 09 February 2018, 02:33:29 »
Feb8 2018

We are looking for a possible GB during the CNY :)

Major updates from ELEMENTO! Here are some more details:


The FR87 kit will come with:
  • 4 DIP setting (Ctrl / Caps swapping, locking WIN key, WIN / Alt swapping for MAC, Disabling light effects)

more renders coming in soon! ;)

Nice features!  Looking forward to more photos in the future

Does that mean it is not programmable?

Rest assure :) This board will be programmable, and Elemento has confirm to us that there will be a website program solution :) DIP will allow you adjust your key map on the go
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth All new renders! Feb8
« Reply #95 on: Fri, 09 February 2018, 07:42:34 »
I'm interested!  Renders look fantastic.

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth All new renders! Feb8
« Reply #96 on: Fri, 09 February 2018, 14:34:26 »
I am worried that with all metal case the BT will suffer with connection issues, specially with full plate. Have you guys done any testing?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth All new renders! Feb8
« Reply #97 on: Sat, 10 February 2018, 01:35:23 »
how would i make a choice between half or full plate?

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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth All new renders! Feb8
« Reply #98 on: Sat, 10 February 2018, 02:50:42 »
I am worried that with all metal case the BT will suffer with connection issues, specially with full plate. Have you guys done any testing?

Elemento ran a test based on a similar structure.  :)
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Re: [IC] ELEMENTO X zFrontier. FR87 Half-plate & Bluetooth All new renders! Feb8
« Reply #99 on: Sat, 10 February 2018, 08:59:12 »
I am worried that with all metal case the BT will suffer with connection issues, specially with full plate. Have you guys done any testing?

Elemento ran a test based on a similar structure.  :)
I’d be very interested to hear about the results of the test!

How much did the power consumption increase compared to a caseless design and by how much was the maximum range reduced?

I did some faraday cage calculations at some point and concluded that the tx&rx power consumption would be approximately doubled in a full plate metal case construction.