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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Launching Monday at 12:00pm
« Reply #150 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 11:08:23 »
Hey guys, any place to get GB updates? Does anyone know something new about this gorgeous board?

I'll try and send out GB updates soon. Just kinda swamped with life at the moment. Order's been placed and I'm waiting from an update from mfg atm.
Thanks for the quick update! Deal with life first, then with keyboards! :) But just FYI, without wanting to stress you (!!):  Small updates like that are really appreciated from you, even if they don‘t contain a lot of information. This way, we know that things are moving!

What kind of ALPS are you guys planning on using? I have some SKCL greens, but not sure yet if I want to go with linears. I also got some Oranges on the way, pretty excited for those!

I'm definitely planning on going with linears. I've actually never touched an ALPS switch in my life, so I'm not entirely sure which switches to go with. SKCL greens seem like the obvious choice, but I'm curious if there are better options -- I enjoy a really smooth, very low-actuation force linear. I currently use Gat silent reds, which I enjoy pretty well, though I wouldn't mind an even lighter switch.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Launching Monday at 12:00pm
« Reply #151 on: Sat, 15 September 2018, 10:32:00 »
Man... I missed this, if anyone wants to off their spot, please let me know :((((((

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Launching Monday at 12:00pm
« Reply #152 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 14:21:48 »
Hey guys, any place to get GB updates? Does anyone know something new about this gorgeous board?

I'll try and send out GB updates soon. Just kinda swamped with life at the moment. Order's been placed and I'm waiting from an update from mfg atm.

Thanks for the quick update! As others said, small updates like this are very much appreciated!

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Launching Monday at 12:00pm
« Reply #153 on: Thu, 27 September 2018, 22:43:03 »
Bummed out I missed this. If anyone wants to swap or sell theirs hit me up!

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Launching Monday at 12:00pm
« Reply #154 on: Mon, 01 October 2018, 12:19:47 »
Any updates? Will this be getting a gb thread?

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Launching Monday at 12:00pm
« Reply #155 on: Mon, 01 October 2018, 17:18:31 »
Any updates? Will this be getting a gb thread?

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Well my GB thread never got approved so I'll throw updates here till it does. I'll ping a mod tonight.

I haven't had the chance to formally update yet, but they're in the CNC stage of things. Should be a little less than halfway done. A little delayed because of National Day.


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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Launching Monday at 12:00pm
« Reply #156 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 22:42:36 »
The factory for Lunar has started back up from the National Day break and are finishing up CNC. Parts will be heading to finishing shortly.


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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Launching Monday at 12:00pm
« Reply #157 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 23:41:53 »
The factory for Lunar has started back up from the National Day break and are finishing up CNC. Parts will be heading to finishing shortly.

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:thumb: :thumb: Looks like the machining is moving along splendidly.

How are the PCB side of things? And are we still looking at Q1/Q2 shipping ETA?

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Launching Monday at 12:00pm
« Reply #158 on: Sat, 06 October 2018, 20:32:31 »
The factory for Lunar has started back up from the National Day break and are finishing up CNC. Parts will be heading to finishing shortly.

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:thumb: :thumb: Looks like the machining is moving along splendidly.

How are the PCB side of things? And are we still looking at Q1/Q2 shipping ETA?

PCB side of things haven't been started yet but pcb manu is fast so its not as much of a worry.

And yes, we're still on target for the Q1/Q2 delivery date

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #159 on: Sun, 07 October 2018, 13:41:01 »
those cases look awesome! can't wait to have mine :p

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Launching Monday at 12:00pm
« Reply #160 on: Fri, 26 October 2018, 09:36:47 »
And yes, we're still on target for the Q1/Q2 delivery date

Hey! Any update about this? Thanks!

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Launching Monday at 12:00pm
« Reply #161 on: Fri, 26 October 2018, 10:57:07 »
And yes, we're still on target for the Q1/Q2 delivery date

Hey! Any update about this? Thanks!

He made an update post on Reddit yesterday, things are still on track.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #162 on: Fri, 26 October 2018, 11:06:46 »


And yes, we're still on target for the Q1/Q2 delivery date

Hey! Any update about this? Thanks!

He made an update post on Reddit yesterday, things are still on track.

It would be nice to get updated here. So much easier to keep track of things. Got a link to that update?

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #163 on: Fri, 26 October 2018, 12:28:00 »


And yes, we're still on target for the Q1/Q2 delivery date

Hey! Any update about this? Thanks!

He made an update post on Reddit yesterday, things are still on track.

It would be nice to get updated here. So much easier to keep track of things. Got a link to that update?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/9rfhh3/vendor_switchplate_peripherals_lunar_southpaw_65/
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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #164 on: Sat, 27 October 2018, 01:49:15 »


And yes, we're still on target for the Q1/Q2 delivery date

Hey! Any update about this? Thanks!

He made an update post on Reddit yesterday, things are still on track.

It would be nice to get updated here. So much easier to keep track of things. Got a link to that update?

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https://www.reddit.com/r/mechmarket/comments/9rfhh3/vendor_switchplate_peripherals_lunar_southpaw_65/

Wow, ahead of schedule. That's a first!
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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #165 on: Sat, 27 October 2018, 02:39:59 »
Have my blue alps & Japanese AEK Caps ready!  ;D

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Launching Monday at 12:00pm
« Reply #166 on: Sun, 28 October 2018, 09:26:28 »
And yes, we're still on target for the Q1/Q2 delivery date

Hey! Any update about this? Thanks!

He made an update post on Reddit yesterday, things are still on track.

Thanks! Usually check reddit daily but didn't see that post.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #167 on: Tue, 30 October 2018, 01:48:44 »


QC Finishing up. Should be here soon. Waiting on the PCB fab atm.

Packaging hasn't been sorted out yet. If I can't get custom cut foam and boxes sorted out in time, I'll be wrapping the hell out of these with thick foam sheets and then sending them out.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #168 on: Tue, 30 October 2018, 02:09:25 »
One of the Lunar fell into the pink tub

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #169 on: Tue, 30 October 2018, 02:10:35 »
One of the Lunar fell into the pink tub
Haha, true, didn‘t notice that! :) Colored would have been nice as well, but anyways, hyped about the update!

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #170 on: Tue, 30 October 2018, 07:33:37 »
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QC Finishing up. Should be here soon. Waiting on the PCB fab atm.

Packaging hasn't been sorted out yet. If I can't get custom cut foam and boxes sorted out in time, I'll be wrapping the hell out of these with thick foam sheets and then sending them out.

PINK Lunar?? OMG

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #171 on: Tue, 30 October 2018, 12:27:17 »
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QC Finishing up. Should be here soon. Waiting on the PCB fab atm.

Packaging hasn't been sorted out yet. If I can't get custom cut foam and boxes sorted out in time, I'll be wrapping the hell out of these with thick foam sheets and then sending them out.

nice

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #172 on: Wed, 07 November 2018, 13:43:29 »
Any news since the QC? Those gray are looking awesome, even better than the prototypes

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #173 on: Wed, 07 November 2018, 18:21:41 »
How many people would you say ordered the gray compared to the silver? Only saw one silver in that QC photo.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #174 on: Sat, 10 November 2018, 16:45:06 »
I have an unbuilt B-stock silver AEK64 (can include PCB & orange alps) I would like to trade for a lunar. pls pm me if you are interested.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #175 on: Sun, 11 November 2018, 06:26:41 »
Love alps. But hard to find keycaps.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #176 on: Sun, 11 November 2018, 06:35:35 »
AEK caps are super easy to find and the only onesnfitting here anyway.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #177 on: Sun, 11 November 2018, 10:01:31 »
Love alps. But hard to find keycaps.
You can easily find them on eBay and this buy already ended so you don't have to worry about finding caps.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #178 on: Tue, 13 November 2018, 23:27:49 »
Any updates?

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - manufacturing (again!)
« Reply #179 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 02:57:26 »
Gonna copy-paste this from my website update, but if you want a TL;DR...

Cases were not made to my standards. I dont trust the factory to 'fix' these as there's no perfect fix to the issue that I am seeing. Going to allocate current 50 units as b-stock and move to my other factory.


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All cases were completed last week and during QC, the factory found some issues with the anodization which have arisen as a result of the material. It's quite a mystery to us since the prototype came out flawless and according to the factory, the same material supplier and anodizing factory was used for both the prototype and production run. Nearly all units have uneven anodization around the sides as a band that goes around the entire case. Some units have minor streaking from acid etch. We are hesitant on having the factory fix these so we will be paying for these and offering them as B stock at heavily discounted prices. 

For the 50 original customers who are in the group buy, we will be manufacturing new cases for everyone. We have another factory which has been used to manufacture custom keyboards before and will organize another batch of cases to be produced. As the 7 series alloy has proven to be difficult to anodize, both by the factories that have been used before and by other makers who have used it in their products, we will switch to either a 6 series or 5 series alloy depending on price, quality and availability. 

As with manufacturing, we will be running the new factory through the paces as with a brand new product being manufactured in a brand new factory. Although they have made other high end custom keyboard kits before, we will still be doing a handful of pre-production pieces for quality assurance and will be discussing expectations with them. We believe that this will take a significant amount of time, but we are still on track for the original Q1/Q2 2019 ship date as we were quite far ahead of schedule with the current (now b-stock) units.

Assembly has started for the PCBs and should wrap up shortly. They should arrive close to the end of this month and made available with b-stock cases. Extra A and B stock from the current factory will be available on a first come, first serve basis. If you would like a notification for these, please fill out the form below.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #180 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 03:14:28 »
Just one question: can a powder coat be applied over those defective cases to hide aesthetical deficiency?

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #181 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 03:19:17 »
Oof, 7075 life...  :blank:

In as the original 50, not sure if I should get another of the now B-Stocks...

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #182 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 03:21:56 »
Just one question: can a powder coat be applied over those defective cases to hide aesthetical deficiency?

Yes, it's only the anodizing that's affected. Machining is perfect on these.

If you want to do a powdercoat, keep in mind the thickness of the powdercoat. Masking the switch cutouts is mandatory. Masking the faces that are hidden when the case is together is reccomended depending on the thickness of the powdercoat.

Cerakoate on the other hand is very thin, though for that, masking the switch cutouts is still recommended.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #183 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 03:37:55 »
Oof, 7075 life...  :blank:

In as the original 50, not sure if I should get another of the now B-Stocks...

Yep. The proto had flawless anodization. Not sure what happened between then and now, but it wasn't in my control and was something that could only have been seen after anodization.

Nevertheless, everyone in the GB paid full price for these kits and I believe that everyone who has done that should receive a product that's representative of that.


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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #184 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 03:50:58 »
Signed up for some extras since I missed out on the original, are there any comparison photos between grey and silver?

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #185 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 04:02:44 »
Signed up for some extras since I missed out on the original, are there any comparison photos between grey and silver?

Not yet. I'll probably have one when they arrive.

For now, some pics of a case that is relatively ok.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #186 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 04:09:31 »
I am personally not interested in alu 6 as we paid for 7. Please make thr current a and b stock available to original buyers first andngive us better photos.


Fcfs is unfair imo.

We already bought switches, keycaps etc...

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #187 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 04:57:36 »
I am personally not interested in alu 6 as we paid for 7. Please make thr current a and b stock available to original buyers first andngive us better photos.


Fcfs is unfair imo.

We already bought switches, keycaps etc...

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I haven't had the chance to send out an email yet, but you'll have the option to either take one from the current run or one from the new run if you are part of the original GB. I can't gauarante that I will have any, if at all perfect ones in 7075 as the issue stems from the material that was used, but I'll try my best to make things work for everyone.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #188 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 09:44:13 »
I am personally not interested in alu 6 as we paid for 7. Please make thr current a and b stock available to original buyers first andngive us better photos.


Fcfs is unfair imo.

We already bought switches, keycaps etc...

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I haven't had the chance to send out an email yet, but you'll have the option to either take one from the current run or one from the new run if you are part of the original GB. I can't gauarante that I will have any, if at all perfect ones in 7075 as the issue stems from the material that was used, but I'll try my best to make things work for everyone.

Whelp this is unfortunate news. I personally am not married to the idea of 7075, but it was nice. Is there a chance that if we opt for the newer version that we receive a refund for the difference in material costs?

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - In Production
« Reply #189 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 10:35:56 »
Just one question: can a powder coat be applied over those defective cases to hide aesthetical deficiency?

Yes, it's only the anodizing that's affected. Machining is perfect on these.

If you want to do a powdercoat, keep in mind the thickness of the powdercoat. Masking the switch cutouts is mandatory. Masking the faces that are hidden when the case is together is reccomended depending on the thickness of the powdercoat.

Cerakoate on the other hand is very thin, though for that, masking the switch cutouts is still recommended.

I'd love to pick up a B-stock and have it cerakoted, but wouldn't masking off the switch cutouts be incredibly difficult?

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #190 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 12:54:43 »
Just a few moments ago I was talking to a guy who runs a private gun shop here in Croatia. I told him I'll have a piece of aluminium 7075 about 35 cm long with stains from a screwed up anodization proccess that I would like to cerakote, and I wanted to know what does he think will this work out (so far he was only doing guns in his cerkatoe oven).

He said, yeah, absolutely, just bring it here, no problems.

Now... when it comes to masking. Total thickness of one layer of cerakote can vary anywhere between 0.0125 mm - 0.0255 mm.

My conclusion is this is well within switch plate tolerances and I won't be doing any masking whatsoever because it would not have any real benefit, everything should be perfectly fine just just the way it is.

If anybody is having any experience with cerakoting and thinks my decision is wrong, please warn me before it's too late.  :D

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #191 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 15:41:39 »
If anybody is having any experience with cerakoting and thinks my decision is wrong, please warn me before it's too late.  :D

Just one question: can a powder coat be applied over those defective cases to hide aesthetical deficiency?

Lunar uses 0.1mm tolerances for lid-chassis fit, so Cerakote should be fine.
Powdercoat usually ranges in the 0.3mm thickness zone, so I'd advise against it.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #192 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 15:54:49 »
Lunar uses 0.1mm tolerances for lid-chassis fit, so Cerakote should be fine.
Powdercoat usually ranges in the 0.3mm thickness zone, so I'd advise against it.

What about switch holes?

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #193 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 16:25:03 »
What is the material difference between 6 series and 7 series aluminium? Does it affect heaviness, feel or durability?

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #194 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 16:59:22 »
did I miss a GB?

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #195 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 17:18:53 »
What is the material difference between 6 series and 7 series aluminium? Does it affect heaviness, feel or durability?
7 series emphasizes hardness/durability and is marginally more heavy. Sound will be higher pitched.

5 series is a softer alloy. Anodizes more easily and more evenly. Sound will be lower pitched.

6 series is a middle-of-the-road kinda option. Feel will change very little, if at all because of the 4mm plate between the material options. In terms of price, switching between each alloy shouldn't affect price very much if at all since I saw a difference of around 3 dollars per unit going from 6 to 7 series in the initial run of lunar.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #196 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 17:19:04 »
I'd definitely would like to make sure I get the 7075, it was the selling point for me.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #197 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 17:23:23 »
I am personally not interested in alu 6 as we paid for 7. Please make thr current a and b stock available to original buyers first andngive us better photos.


Fcfs is unfair imo.

We already bought switches, keycaps etc...

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I haven't had the chance to send out an email yet, but you'll have the option to either take one from the current run or one from the new run if you are part of the original GB. I can't gauarante that I will have any, if at all perfect ones in 7075 as the issue stems from the material that was used, but I'll try my best to make things work for everyone.

Whelp this is unfortunate news. I personally am not married to the idea of 7075, but it was nice. Is there a chance that if we opt for the newer version that we receive a refund for the difference in material costs?

If you opt for the newer option, I can try and see how much material costs differ. From the current run, the cost difference was minimal and it is a lot of work to refund and keep track of small refunds that are only a dollar or two.

I also don't have a quote from the new factory yet. I need to get that sorted out first before I put extras up and what not.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #198 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 17:27:13 »
What is the material difference between 6 series and 7 series aluminium? Does it affect heaviness, feel or durability?
7 series emphasizes hardness/durability and is marginally more heavy. Sound will be higher pitched.

5 series is a softer alloy. Anodizes more easily and more evenly. Sound will be lower pitched.

6 series is a middle-of-the-road kinda option. Feel will change very little, if at all because of the 4mm plate between the material options. In terms of price, switching between each alloy shouldn't affect price very much if at all since I saw a difference of around 3 dollars per unit going from 6 to 7 series in the initial run of lunar.

Okay, so basically I won't feel that much of a change from 7 series to 6 series if I am not that sensitive and/or know well about the aluminium. Yeah I don't want to do re-ano or cerakote(I don't even know how to or who to ask) so do what you have to do, just make sure the finished product is up to your original goals.

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Re: [IC] Lunar AEK 65% - Manufacturing (again!) - B-stock available soon
« Reply #199 on: Wed, 14 November 2018, 17:32:03 »
What is the material difference between 6 series and 7 series aluminium? Does it affect heaviness, feel or durability?
7 series emphasizes hardness/durability and is marginally more heavy. Sound will be higher pitched.

5 series is a softer alloy. Anodizes more easily and more evenly. Sound will be lower pitched.

6 series is a middle-of-the-road kinda option. Feel will change very little, if at all because of the 4mm plate between the material options. In terms of price, switching between each alloy shouldn't affect price very much if at all since I saw a difference of around 3 dollars per unit going from 6 to 7 series in the initial run of lunar.

Okay, so basically I won't feel that much of a change from 7 series to 6 series if I am not that sensitive and/or know well about the aluminium. Yeah I don't want to do re-ano or cerakote(I don't even know how to or who to ask) so do what you have to do, just make sure the finished product is up to your original goals.

Notable differences here are sound and durability. Sound WILL be different. Not drastically different, but notable. Durability will be reduced. The 7 series units are tough as nails, though I'm not sure why someone would be dropping these on a concrete floor on a regular basis.