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[GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« on: Tue, 11 September 2018, 22:03:28 »
Product link: https://shop.hineybush.com/product/h87a-gb

IC Link: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=96501.0

Please read my group buy terms: http://shop.hineybush.com/faq



GROUP BUY OPENS: September 12, 2018 @ Noon EST (actually now hehe)

GROUP BUY CLOSES: October 5, 2018 @ Midnight EST


Estimated manufacturing time: 4 weeks

Estimated shipping date: ~ November 10, 2018

MOQ: 50 Units

Price: $45 each


There are no price breaks for this product.

The product price does not include PayPal fees (2.9% + $0.30), this fee is added to your shipping charge ($1.30 for US, $1.98 for international)



Ordering internationally?
Check out your respective location's shop to save money on shipping:

EU: https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/hineybush-h87a-pcb_727/

Note: The MyKeyboard.eu price includes 21% VAT, import shipping and PayPal fees.

Asia/Pacific: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScHZOyMA4GqTBfaFK7GFEsNvLFhnOcJueexsIU7qRm0s-RzgQ/viewform

Australia: https://dailyclack.com/collections/products/products/h87a-tkl-pcb



To check/estimate compatibility: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1fZ8FtTGDl222hXnomQJgKmwRnWvg2VuoJ-GeAafVTLc/edit?usp=sharing

Look at the "h87a" column.

You must use screw-in stabilizers on AT LEAST the spacebar and 2.75 right shift.

I CANNOT GUARANTEE THAT THIS PCB WILL FIT YOUR CASE, even if it is listed as "probable" by the spreadsheet linked above. If you have doubts, wait until someone else with your case tries this PCB.

Specs:


  • TKL PCB, programmable via QMK. - https://github.com/hinnebusch/qmk_firmware/tree/master/keyboards/h87a
  • MX plate/PCB mount only. NO ALPS SUPPORT ON THIS VERSION
  • "Skinny A87" form factor - same footprint as B87, but same USB placement and stab layout as A87.
  • Standard ANSI and WKL bottom rows, ISO enter, short right and left shifts, 2u backspace
  • Top-side Mini USB port
  • Bi-directional spacebar and right shift stabilizer mounting (north or south) - You must use screw-in stabilizers on AT LEAST these two positions
  • RGB underglow
  • One-color in-switch LED
  • Powered by Atmega32U4 MCU
  • No physical reset switch - just short two pins on the PCB (for case compatibility)
  • In-switch indicator lights - connected via jumpers
  • Pins to solder a daughter board on (Moon TKL, for example)
  • Fully soldered and pre-programmed with a basic TKL map out of the box
  • SPI pins
  • Breakaway USB port for cases that use USB daughterboards
  • Matte black solder mask w/ white text
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 11 September 2018, 22:06:16 »
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 10:42:19 »
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 10:44:25 »
Wew lad, hope u like assembling pcbs

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 10:48:09 »
Can I get a custom silkscreen on my waifu on there?

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 10:49:35 »
in it to win it

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 10:51:22 »
Wew lad, hope u like assembling pcbs

I don't but the factory does

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 10:54:00 »
Most anticipated GB I've seen in a while.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 11:17:01 »
nicely done sir.  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 21:49:54 »
What does an "extended USB port" mod entail for the KMAC rows in the spreadsheet?

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 13 September 2018, 21:53:31 »
What does an "extended USB port" mod entail for the KMAC rows in the spreadsheet?

I was told that the KMAC board(s) have a USB port that extends further out than a typical a.87 PCB. Someone may correct me if that's not true.

So far at 31 sold including 5 dedicated to an Australian vendor - more than halfway to MOQ. Very nice showing after only two days.
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #11 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 07:00:03 »
What does an "extended USB port" mod entail for the KMAC rows in the spreadsheet?

I was told that the KMAC board(s) have a USB port that extends further out than a typical a.87 PCB. Someone may correct me if that's not true.

So far at 31 sold including 5 dedicated to an Australian vendor - more than halfway to MOQ. Very nice showing after only two days.

Ah sure enoguh it looks like it, top is a Leeku 87 which I believe is a.87, bottom is a KMAC:



So the USB would be a little recessed into the case, not bad.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #12 on: Fri, 14 September 2018, 09:40:07 »
Thanks for the info, the pic helps a lot. Yeah I guess it'd be up to whether the case would allow you to plug into one if it's more recessed.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 20:10:46 »
Quote
No physical reset switch - just short two pins on the PCB (for case compatibility)

Sorry for the dumb question, but does this mean I have to take the PCB out of the case to reflash it, or is there some sort of hotkey I can set up in qmk to put it into flash mode?

Not really well versed in qmk.
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 16 September 2018, 20:45:18 »
Quote
No physical reset switch - just short two pins on the PCB (for case compatibility)

Sorry for the dumb question, but does this mean I have to take the PCB out of the case to reflash it, or is there some sort of hotkey I can set up in qmk to put it into flash mode?

Not really well versed in qmk.

Yes - the default keymap has Fn + R as the "soft reset" hotkey within QMK. The pins are incase you need to do a "hard reset", and take the place of a switch.

Currently at 37 PCBs ordered.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 18 September 2018, 09:50:21 »
54 ordered total so far - my second set of prototypes should be reaching their buyers this week, so I'll have a better idea of the compatibility soon.
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 20 September 2018, 10:21:54 »
57 ordered.

Updated compatibility - these are confirmed to work with h87a:

Duck Orion v1/v2, Duck Unicorn v1/v2/v3
Keycult No.1
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MIRA
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TGR Jane (and presumably Jane CE)
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"Fake Skog" from Taobao

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 24 September 2018, 15:38:53 »
Over 60 ordered atm.

Added a link to the AUS proxy in the OP.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 25 September 2018, 23:16:30 »
We're at about 65 ordered

I've updated the design to better fit boards with no clearance for the outdent where the spacebar stab goes. A "downside" of this is that you have to use screw-in stabilizers for those two spots. I've also updated the spacebar and right shift footprints to allow the user to use either stab orientation - north or south. Twitch VOD of the process:

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/314800315





Will update the OP/product listing tomorrow, it's late af

Thanks to Creamy for the help/guidance on the stab "pears"  ;D
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 27 September 2018, 10:00:04 »
Has there been a GUI or something released yet for QMK besides https://config.qmk.fm?

Spare me the QMK evangelism please; I want to grab a couple of these before this closes, but I don't want to deal with QMK..

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 27 September 2018, 10:15:12 »
Has there been a GUI or something released yet for QMK besides https://config.qmk.fm?

Spare me the QMK evangelism please; I want to grab a couple of these before this closes, but I don't want to deal with QMK..

Unfortunately, no, there isn't anything yet.

This is also one of my biggest gripes with QMK -- I eventually found myself with enough QMK boards to make learning how to do everything "manually" worth it, but in most people's cases (yourself included) it's really much too complex. That being said, I think something is being worked on, but you'd need to inquire with folks like MechMerlin or Jack Humbert himself.
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 27 September 2018, 10:44:24 »
Has there been a GUI or something released yet for QMK besides https://config.qmk.fm?

Spare me the QMK evangelism please; I want to grab a couple of these before this closes, but I don't want to deal with QMK..

Unfortunately, no, there isn't anything yet.

This is also one of my biggest gripes with QMK -- I eventually found myself with enough QMK boards to make learning how to do everything "manually" worth it, but in most people's cases (yourself included) it's really much too complex. That being said, I think something is being worked on, but you'd need to inquire with folks like MechMerlin or Jack Humbert himself.

Aside from cloning, installing, installing dependencies, updating, reading the documentation, figuring out the learning curve, figuring out how to change the keymap, figuring out how to flash firmware, "oh, an error", googling how to fix errors, reading thread after thread on how to fix something so you can move one little tiny step forward to the next error..

Nah, it's all relatively easy and worth it just to move a switch around.

Sounds like I may have to grab one just to get comfortable with QMK and all it's idiosyncrasies.
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 27 September 2018, 11:38:18 »
The QMK Configurator (linked) is pretty good, and h87a is on there. I need to work with mechmerlin to get more layouts for the board on. You pretty much click and drag the keys you want, where you want them.

The code itself is pretty clean as well, and is clean to compile and use as long as you're just replacing keys. If that's all you're trying to do you shouldn't run into issues.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 27 September 2018, 13:51:12 »
The QMK Configurator (linked) is pretty good, and h87a is on there. I need to work with mechmerlin to get more layouts for the board on. You pretty much click and drag the keys you want, where you want them.

The code itself is pretty clean as well, and is clean to compile and use as long as you're just replacing keys. If that's all you're trying to do you shouldn't run into issues.

Feel free to join my Discord at https://discord.gg/u3eFQNz for tech support if/when the time comes.

Will do. Thanks man!

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 01 October 2018, 12:55:22 »
Update

126 ordered at the moment, including proxies and stores that want to stock some post-buy.

5 days left to order, buy will close this Friday night (10/6) at approximately midnight EST.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 01 October 2018, 13:14:34 »
Do you think this will work theoretically with the Jane v2?

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 01 October 2018, 13:48:51 »
Do you think this will work theoretically with the Jane v2?

With the final version/revision of this PCB, yes it will - yuktsi is supplying me with the Jane V2 PCB outline so I can adjust the h87a so it'll fit.

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« Reply #27 on: Mon, 01 October 2018, 13:51:01 »
With the final version/revision of this PCB, yes it will - yuktsi is supplying me with the Jane V2 PCB outline so I can adjust the h87a so it'll fit.
Awesome! thanks

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« Reply #28 on: Tue, 02 October 2018, 13:30:26 »
Do you think this will work theoretically with the Jane v2?

With the final version/revision of this PCB, yes it will - yuktsi is supplying me with the Jane V2 PCB outline so I can adjust the h87a so it'll fit.

In that case, I just sent you an email about adding +1 to my existing order.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 03 October 2018, 08:31:23 »
Halfway through the edits for the next/final version.

1. Edited outline (about 1-2mm smaller in all directions) and larger corner radii to better fit some boards, including Jane V2
2. Extend USB port about 1.3mm outwards for a better fit in cases (was too sunken in on some with the protos)
3. Changed diode package for less parts (same matrix, so QMK should be the same) and less cost.
4. Rerouting a bunch of it bc I can make it a bit tidier now

At over 150 ordered atm with a few vendors jumping on board to stock the PCB.

Reminder that this GB will close this Friday, Oct. 5, at-or-later-than Midnight EST.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #30 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 02:12:45 »
Just received invoice for 2 PCBs via the Southeast Asia Proxy for 50USD each. Before paying the invoice just want to check if this is the proxy pricing? Thanks!

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« Reply #31 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 03:34:51 »
Just received invoice for 2 PCBs via the Southeast Asia Proxy for 50USD each. Before paying the invoice just want to check if this is the proxy pricing? Thanks!

yes that is south east asia proxy pricing.

45 usd for PCB
5 usd for shipping from us to indonesia - i have put this on our form.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 05:14:07 »
 :thumb: Thanks, thought I must have missed it somewhere.

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« Reply #33 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 08:24:44 »
Glad to see you've been busy hiney  :thumb:
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 09:53:53 »
Reminder that today is the last day to order the h87a at group buy pricing - Once the buy is closed I'll make it unavailable to buy until I order the PCBs, at that time I will start pre-order pricing ($50) for a limited number of the PCBs (probably half of the extras I'll be ordering).

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 10:02:22 »
I got quoted for $11 for conus shipping, is that normal?
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« Reply #36 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 10:02:46 »
error- double posted
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 11:01:28 »
I got quoted for $11 for conus shipping, is that normal?

Depends on how many you order - that should be normal for 2 PCBs. Note that's base shipping price (for one) + PP fee (described in the product listing) + additional price for second PCB packing/material/weight.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 12:49:54 »
Picked one up to pair with Jane v2  :thumb:
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« Reply #39 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 16:09:39 »
I got quoted for $11 for conus shipping, is that normal?

Depends on how many you order - that should be normal for 2 PCBs. Note that's base shipping price (for one) + PP fee (described in the product listing) + additional price for second PCB packing/material/weight.

Thanks! :thumb: picked up 2.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 05 October 2018, 19:47:50 »
I picked up two as well (one for a Keycult No 1 and one for a Kira 80). SO HYPED!

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #41 on: Sat, 06 October 2018, 12:47:22 »
GB is officially closed. Pre order will open in a few days for $50/pcb. A limited number will be available (20-25 I think).

Thank you everyone for supporting this project!


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« Reply #42 on: Sun, 07 October 2018, 06:19:14 »
GB is officially closed. Pre order will open in a few days for $50/pcb. A limited number will be available (20-25 I think).

Thank you everyone for supporting this project!


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Already regretting not getting one of these, will definitely be in for a pre-order.

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« Reply #43 on: Sun, 07 October 2018, 14:40:38 »
Im also regretting that I didnt get one of these. Ill be sure to try to get one of the preorder ones!

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« Reply #44 on: Sun, 07 October 2018, 19:13:02 »
Ah, totally missed this.
In for whatever extra PCBs that will be available later.  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 08 October 2018, 13:48:56 »
May be a weird question, but I forgot to ask before I ordered: are the PCB-mount pin holes Cherry spec? I'm not sure if anyone's been adjusting them to fit the thicker Gateron/Zealio pins, but I'm planning on using Cherry PCB-mount and want a tight fit.

Also, do you know how thick the PCB will be?
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« Reply #46 on: Mon, 08 October 2018, 14:34:56 »
Regret not getting in on this. My Leeku is acting up.  :'(
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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 08 October 2018, 15:11:19 »
Regret not getting in on this. My Leeku is acting up.  :'(
There will be extras

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 08 October 2018, 23:24:36 »
May be a weird question, but I forgot to ask before I ordered: are the PCB-mount pin holes Cherry spec? I'm not sure if anyone's been adjusting them to fit the thicker Gateron/Zealio pins, but I'm planning on using Cherry PCB-mount and want a tight fit.

Also, do you know how thick the PCB will be?

I've tested the holes with Zealios and they're snug but the switches can be removed fine. Cherry PCB mount is a slight bit looser, but still snug.

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Re: [GB] h87a: QMK-powered a87 PCB
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 09 October 2018, 09:09:14 »
May be a weird question, but I forgot to ask before I ordered: are the PCB-mount pin holes Cherry spec? I'm not sure if anyone's been adjusting them to fit the thicker Gateron/Zealio pins, but I'm planning on using Cherry PCB-mount and want a tight fit.

Also, do you know how thick the PCB will be?

I've tested the holes with Zealios and they're snug but the switches can be removed fine. Cherry PCB mount is a slight bit looser, but still snug.

Just FYI, the upcoming v2 switches from Zeal are supposed to have the slightly smaller Cherry-sized PCB mount pins.