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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #250 on: Thu, 15 August 2019, 17:46:50 »
Anymore updates?
Also, Cherry logo cap PLEASE!  :thumb:
I'll be updating the set once I get a list of key profile that epbt can make. One of the changes is including convex 2.25u and 2.75u spacebars.

I won't be adding cherry keys sorry.

Thanks for the update!

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #251 on: Thu, 15 August 2019, 23:02:53 »
When is GB projected to run?

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« Reply #252 on: Sat, 17 August 2019, 01:04:53 »
nvm f epbt
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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #253 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 14:34:14 »
When is GB projected to run?

Also interested in this. We got the samples but you said it was to light of a color blue? Does that mean we have to wait for the second sample before the GB starts or?  :-X
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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #254 on: Fri, 23 August 2019, 14:42:32 »
When is GB projected to run?

Also interested in this. We got the samples but you said it was to light of a color blue? Does that mean we have to wait for the second sample before the GB starts or?  :-X
That is correct. Better to wait now rather than to have delays during the GB (like Kuro/Shiro).

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #255 on: Sat, 24 August 2019, 04:55:20 »
When is GB projected to run?

Also interested in this. We got the samples but you said it was to light of a color blue? Does that mean we have to wait for the second sample before the GB starts or?  :-X
That is correct. Better to wait now rather than to have delays during the GB (like Kuro/Shiro).

When do you think the second sample will get to you?

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #256 on: Mon, 09 September 2019, 13:00:07 »
Any update on this?

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #257 on: Mon, 09 September 2019, 13:43:00 »
Any update on this?
EPBT are busy trying to finish Kuro/Shiro first so I'll need to wait till that has finished before I can get more samples.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #258 on: Mon, 09 September 2019, 15:32:22 »
Are these colors the same as 9009? I suppose they are as this is based on an OG Cherry set.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #259 on: Mon, 09 September 2019, 15:59:52 »
Are these colors the same as 9009? I suppose they are as this is based on an OG Cherry set.

Yup it's based on the classic Cherry beige color scheme.
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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #260 on: Tue, 10 September 2019, 05:15:58 »
Any update on this?
EPBT are busy trying to finish Kuro/Shiro first so I'll need to wait till that has finished before I can get more samples.

When is that expected to happen? (or is it more of a "when it's done!" thing?)

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« Reply #261 on: Wed, 11 September 2019, 08:52:10 »
Any update on this?
EPBT are busy trying to finish Kuro/Shiro first so I'll need to wait till that has finished before I can get more samples.

When is that expected to happen? (or is it more of a "when it's done!" thing?)

Kuri/Shiro is expected to finish production around Sept 20. See: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101576.msg2809057#msg2809057
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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #262 on: Wed, 11 September 2019, 09:23:34 »
Any update on this?
EPBT are busy trying to finish Kuro/Shiro first so I'll need to wait till that has finished before I can get more samples.

When is that expected to happen? (or is it more of a "when it's done!" thing?)

Kuri/Shiro is expected to finish production around Sept 20. See: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101576.msg2809057#msg2809057

Thanks. I look forwards to see this come to life.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #263 on: Thu, 12 September 2019, 04:07:47 »
Any ballpark estimate on the price of this thing?

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #264 on: Thu, 12 September 2019, 04:32:13 »
Excited for this. I hope it turns out great.
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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #265 on: Mon, 07 October 2019, 15:32:47 »
Still waiting for this to start! :P
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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #266 on: Thu, 10 October 2019, 13:04:01 »
Definitely interested, and will probably grab one spotwhen this GB go alive.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #267 on: Mon, 14 October 2019, 04:30:29 »
Any ballpark estimate on the price of this thing?

Probably similar to Kuro/Shiro.
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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #268 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 13:31:38 »
ne update avail?  ;D
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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #269 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 16:14:14 »
ne update avail?  ;D
I will be working on this again once Kuro/Shiro is shipped which it still hasn't :(

I've got it all planned out so it shouldn't take long before I update the kits. In the meantime, I've ordered some Pantone samples of various blues that I'm planning to send in for colour matching since the colour for the first prototypes were quite a bit off from what I had specified. In saying that, I'm also looking to go for a darker blue anyway.

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[IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #270 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 17:24:39 »
Is it too late to ask for Icon Mods please?? :(


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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #271 on: Mon, 25 November 2019, 19:15:03 »
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.

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« Reply #272 on: Mon, 25 November 2019, 21:30:16 »
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #273 on: Mon, 25 November 2019, 21:48:52 »
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.
I'm glad we're on the same page lol.
You thinking blue or white for it if it's made available?

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #274 on: Mon, 25 November 2019, 22:46:12 »
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.
I'm glad we're on the same page lol.
You thinking blue or white for it if it's made available?
Alpha coloured rather than accent. I don't want to bloat the kits too much and I think the quality of the white is better than the blue dyesubbed keys.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #275 on: Mon, 25 November 2019, 22:59:19 »
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.
I'm glad we're on the same page lol.
You thinking blue or white for it if it's made available?
Alpha coloured rather than accent. I don't want to bloat the kits too much and I think the quality of the white is better than the blue dyesubbed keys.
Sounds good, compatibility is really all I was looking for. Really looking forward to this groupbuy :)

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #276 on: Tue, 26 November 2019, 01:05:45 »
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.

Oh, these are great news! Still rooting for this keyset. :)
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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #277 on: Tue, 26 November 2019, 01:55:27 »
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.
I'm glad we're on the same page lol.
You thinking blue or white for it if it's made available?
Alpha coloured rather than accent. I don't want to bloat the kits too much and I think the quality of the white is better than the blue dyesubbed keys.

Good call. Excited for the GB!


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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #278 on: Tue, 26 November 2019, 10:41:30 »
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.

Big IF that it will happen, but supposedly Simple JA Enjoypbt will have convex spacebars in 2.25u and 2.75u. If Enjoypbt can do convex now please try to get yours in convex as well.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #279 on: Tue, 26 November 2019, 13:06:41 »
Were you planning to have a spacebar compatibility kit available too?
I have no clue where I'm gonna get a 2.75u/2.25u pair to match this set that doesn't say shift on it.
I wasn't planning to originally but I'm a fan of the Alice layout so I think I will.

Big IF that it will happen, but supposedly Simple JA Enjoypbt will have convex spacebars in 2.25u and 2.75u. If Enjoypbt can do convex now please try to get yours in convex as well.
Kuro/Shiro and extended2048 had seperate barred and scooped homing keys that they seem to have gotten stingy with, but hopefully they make all these improvements available to every set.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #280 on: Sun, 08 December 2019, 04:00:35 »
Any updates on this since Kuro Shiro has started shipping?

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #281 on: Sun, 08 December 2019, 04:07:40 »
Any updates on this since Kuro Shiro has started shipping?
I've started updating the kits and my Pantone samples have arrived and I should be able to submit the revised design to epbt by the end of next week.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #282 on: Sun, 15 December 2019, 13:50:47 »
I've updated the kit to add an "Ergo" kit that should provide compatibility for Alice layouts but should also satisfy split spacebar users.
The next round of samples have been ordered and I'll be trying out Pantone 2955C for the blue which is quite a bit darker.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
« Reply #283 on: Sun, 15 December 2019, 14:46:04 »
I've updated the kit to add an "Ergo" kit that should provide compatibility for Alice layouts but should also satisfy split spacebar users.
The next round of samples have been ordered and I'll be trying out Pantone 2955C for the blue which is quite a bit darker.

Looks good. You should throw accent split space bars in that Alice kit.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
« Reply #284 on: Sun, 15 December 2019, 20:14:10 »
I've updated the kit to add an "Ergo" kit that should provide compatibility for Alice layouts but should also satisfy split spacebar users.
The next round of samples have been ordered and I'll be trying out Pantone 2955C for the blue which is quite a bit darker.

Looks good. You should throw accent split space bars in that Alice kit.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
« Reply #285 on: Sun, 15 December 2019, 21:28:52 »
Any chance of getting the blue Esc and Enter into the accent kit?

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/06/2019 SAMPLE PHOTOS ADDED)
« Reply #286 on: Sun, 26 January 2020, 17:58:38 »
Are these colors the same as 9009? I suppose they are as this is based on an OG Cherry set.

Yup it's based on the classic Cherry beige color scheme.

Thank you for the feedback.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
« Reply #287 on: Tue, 28 January 2020, 20:30:23 »
These will definitely be gracing my gskt-00. Oh yes, they will.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
« Reply #288 on: Wed, 29 January 2020, 19:14:30 »
Two remarks:
  • R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn (R2 and R1 in EPBT's notation) are missing. Could you add them to the base kit?
  • The háčky (diacritics) on ěščřý etc. in the number row are very oddly proportioned — they're way too large. I realize this this is how they were in the original set, but you should take this opportunity to improve on old Cherry legends, as you've done in the past.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
« Reply #289 on: Tue, 25 February 2020, 20:42:13 »
the GB for this set hasn't started right?
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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
« Reply #290 on: Tue, 25 February 2020, 22:47:54 »
Two remarks:
  • R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn (R2 and R1 in EPBT's notation) are missing. Could you add them to the base kit?
  • The háčky (diacritics) on ěščřý etc. in the number row are very oddly proportioned — they're way too large. I realize this this is how they were in the original set, but you should take this opportunity to improve on old Cherry legends, as you've done in the past.
I'll need to think about including the extra pg up and pg dn keys. They aren't that common and I'm trying to keep this set pretty trim. Regarding your second suggestion, I'd prefer to keep them roughly the size they currently are because it'd be more consistent with general symbol sizes but also, as you mentioned, it would be closer to the original.

the GB for this set hasn't started right?
Still waiting for the next round of samples.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
« Reply #291 on: Wed, 26 February 2020, 02:33:36 »
Is there any chance that you will have a nordic add-on as you have a german add-on or is that too niche?
Great work on this set, love the colorscheme!

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
« Reply #292 on: Wed, 26 February 2020, 06:46:29 »
Regarding your second suggestion, I'd prefer to keep them roughly the size they currently are because it'd be more consistent with general symbol sizes but also, as you mentioned, it would be closer to the original.

Keep in mind that in actual typefaces diacritics are never that big. You're willingly choosing to err on the side of Cherry's laziness / lack of expertise from 30 years ago. This is just one example; arguably, even worse offenders are Cherry's original Russian Cyrillic legends, the Greek word-final sigma legend, etc. It's a good thing that those legends aren't used in modern keysets anymore. They would look out of place on sets with modern quality expectations and level of attention to detail, and it would appear as if someone just hadn't put enough time and effort into doing the research on what those legends should look like. I know how much attention to detail you put into your sets, Gok, which is why I think that you should fix those legends.

If you'd like to keep the glyphs consistent with sizes of other symbols, then make the base characters larger and diacritics smaller. But imo, just reducing the diacritics' size would look great. Just make sure it's an actually typographically correct glyph in the end. As anyone who types Czech on a daily basis will be able to tell you, those characters should not look like they currently do in the renders.
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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
« Reply #293 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 03:11:06 »
Is it possible that this would be delivered around the same time that the 7V would be shipping?

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« Reply #294 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 17:47:28 »
Is it possible that this would be delivered around the same time that the 7V would be shipping?
Hard to say because these will have totally independant timelines.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
« Reply #295 on: Thu, 02 April 2020, 18:38:01 »
Hi there, what is the thickness of keycaps? Thanks.

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Re: [IC] Enjoypbt 3000SAT (16/12/2019 KIT UPDATE)
« Reply #296 on: Thu, 02 April 2020, 18:47:23 »
Hi there, what is the thickness of keycaps? Thanks.

ePBT is around 1.3/1.4mm.
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« Reply #297 on: Wed, 08 April 2020, 12:01:23 »
Looks nice!

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« Reply #298 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 16:57:16 »
hello yes thanks

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« Reply #299 on: Thu, 23 April 2020, 06:52:09 »
i need this, my favorite gmk set i've seen so far