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[Update Mar 20 '19]
Hi,
We found we got some error paypal setting last week.
Some of orders can not go through.
This groupbuy will extend a week to late Mar :)
[End of Mar 20 '19]

Hey, everyone! I'm Shiang Yu from Doyu Studio.
This is group buy for Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit R2.

The Chiwi60  was conceived by the mechanical keyboard community member gok from New Zealand who named the keyboard after a colloquial term that was short for Chinese Kiwi.

The board is designed to have medium sized bezels with a 30 degree chamfer on the top face to provide visual interest to the most visible face of the keyboard.
30 degrees has been specifically chosen so that the top and side bezels still have presence from natural viewing angles despite the faces tapering away and also makes the keyboard appear shorter and sleeker.

The design aims to provide the keyboard with a seamless aesthetic and underglow that is integrated rather than just an afterthought.

A unique features of the keyboard are the optional dual 3u spacebar layout which allows for splitspace with convex spacebars rather than what you would usually have with the 2.25/1.25/2.75 split.




Pics



Pic from geeks!


See more images with larger size here!
PVD/DLC
Anodized
Some more
R1 products


Major changes in R2 :
  • Stainless steel instead of brass for DLC/PVD kitsDO60s PCB
  • Major parts made in Taiwan
  • Removed unpopular layout to reduce cutouts
  • Removed universal USB port option
  • Change to screw-in stabilizers
  • upgrade to DO60s PCB (Kit compatible with DO60)



Links :
Buying page : Check here
Interest Check Thread : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=92790.100
Group buy thread of round 1 : https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=93969.0


Kit include :
  • Body
  • Mount plate
  • Bottom plate
  • Name plate
  • Screws
  • Round rubber feet
  • Manual cards
  • PCB
  • Glove(DLC body kit only)



Features/Specs/Design :

  • Non-floating
  • 7 deg angled
  • Aluminum Body /  stainless steel Body
  • Brass plate and name plate
  • PVD gold brass with mirrored polishing.
  • PC bottom plate with sandblast
  • 1.5mm thickness mount plate



Surface finishing:

  • Black DLC with mirror polished stainless steel.
  • Sandblasted raw stainless steel
  • Sandblast & ED aluminum for white
  • Sandblast & Anodized


*Why not powercoating for white one?

1. ED offer a thinner and controllable coating layer
2. ED is much more even than powercoating
3. Lesser human work, stable quality, powercoating rely on worker skill more


Add-ons and Upgrades :
  • Wedged shape bottom piece
  • Flat DLC/PVD bottom
  • Extra PCB and plate
  • Screw-in stablizers by Cherry
  • Other combination? contact us!
Wedged shape bottom design


Time frame & to do :
Collecting orders till : Mar 18 '19 Extend to late Mar
Est. deliver : Sep, '19
For more details please Find out on Trello



* stabilizer pack contains :
  • plastic part for up to 6 caps (Genuine Cherry parts)
  • 4*2u wires, 2*3u wires, 1*6.25u wire, 1*7u wire


Things you might want to know / FAQs :
  • Will XXX PCB fit this kit? :
    Quick answer : NO.
    Details : we made USB port fit with only 0.5mm tolerance for the cutout.
    That means no other PCB will fit the design unless they made their PCB based on out design.
    Which means the only 1 fit I know is PCB for Chiwi60 made by Maarten.
  • Shipping cost :
    put item into cart and you can check it before payment made.
    If it not shows up, contact us with following info, so we can check shipping table db and spot issue:
    1. Destination country
    2. Address include will be appreciate
    3. Order details include quantity.
  • Weight for kit(switches and cap included, cable not included)
    Aluminum : around 1.2 kg
    Stainless : around 1.8 kg
    DLC bottom : around 0.8~1 kg
    * weight might vary due to different layout or parts using
  • Will bottom and plate fit R1 ki?
    Yes, but we didn't list it.
    If you want one of them, please contact us include one of the following info, we'll check what layout you have :
    1. directly tell us your layout include pics (sorry, we found there's people confused with layout name)
    2. Order number
    3. Order mail (not paypal id if you use 2 mail address)
    4. Other info, ie. paypal transaction id, paypal user id, name of billing or shipping. (Other info might hard to find correct info or take longer time)
  • Will we run away with your money?
    Maybe A_A
« Last Edit: Wed, 20 March 2019, 21:53:43 by sennin32 »

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Re: [GB] Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit - a 60% kit
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 24 February 2019, 02:11:23 »
update : 2019 Feb :
Update imgur gallery for R1 products.
Add sandblasted raw stainless steel bottom into upgrade option.
« Last Edit: Mon, 25 February 2019, 21:13:35 by sennin32 »

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Re: [GB] Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit - a 60% kit
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 24 February 2019, 11:02:29 »
Approved, Gl w GB!

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Re: [GB] Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit - a 60% kit
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 24 February 2019, 11:20:17 »
Which layout should I pick in order to include arrows?

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Re: [GB] Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit - a 60% kit
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 24 February 2019, 11:30:49 »
I have the R1 chiwi, and it surprisingly is one of my best sounding board even tho others have said it sounded hollow, just wishing i could get my hands on the 6u hhbk variant this round, but it looks like this option have been scrapped.

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Re: [GB] Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit - a 60% kit
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Re: [GB] Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit - a 60% kit
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 24 February 2019, 12:06:24 »
Which layout should I pick in order to include arrows?
HHKB has no arrow.
The rest has it.

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Re: [GB] Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit - a 60% kit
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 24 February 2019, 13:28:05 »
Can I do split space hhkb?

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Re: [GB] Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit - a 60% kit
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 24 February 2019, 15:01:33 »
Any pictures of the Tiffany ano? I think it may be the wrong pic on the site when you choose the option

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Re: [GB] Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit - a 60% kit
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 24 February 2019, 16:49:38 »
I have the R1 chiwi, and it surprisingly is one of my best sounding board even tho others have said it sounded hollow, just wishing i could get my hands on the 6u hhbk variant this round, but it looks like this option have been scrapped.
I built a tsangan layout chiwi and I understand what you mean about the spacebar being thocky but I think you would lose it if the spacebar is shifted to the left since the switch would be close to the mounting point and make the spacebar sound less consistent.
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Re: [GB] Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit - a 60% kit
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 24 February 2019, 22:25:20 »
What are the differences in the bottom upgrades?

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Re: [GB] Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit - a 60% kit
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 25 February 2019, 12:12:21 »
What are the differences in the bottom upgrades?
1. 7 deg bottom : For better dsound
2. brass bottom : for those who want full metal kbs



Any pictures of the Tiffany ano? I think it may be the wrong pic on the site when you choose the option

work now :)
gallery updated.

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Will this work with other USB-C 60% PCBs? Would you add a no PCB option?

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Will this work with other USB-C 60% PCBs? Would you add a no PCB option?
Both answer is no.

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If I opt for the DLC bottom as an upgrade, is there a way to get the regular pc bottom as well?

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If I opt for the DLC bottom as an upgrade, is there a way to get the regular pc bottom as well?
You can contact sennin for custom orders like that.
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Re: [GB] Doyu Studio - Chiwi60 kit - a 60% kit
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 28 February 2019, 16:02:18 »
What are the differences in the bottom upgrades?
1. 7 deg bottom : For better dsound
2. brass bottom : for those who want full metal kbs.

is brass bottom PVD/DLC option?

edit: I'd also be interested in PC bottom + upgraded option.
« Last Edit: Thu, 28 February 2019, 16:18:32 by Minterly »

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That Stainless Steel DLC Black option looks fantastic. I'd be all over this if it wasn't a 60%.

Any pictures of the 7 degree PC base vs the stock base?

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That Stainless Steel DLC Black option looks fantastic. I'd be all over this if it wasn't a 60%.

Any pictures of the 7 degree PC base vs the stock base?
Image added

What are the differences in the bottom upgrades?
1. 7 deg bottom : For better dsound
2. brass bottom : for those who want full metal kbs.

is brass bottom PVD/DLC option?

edit: I'd also be interested in PC bottom + upgraded option.
Hi,
there's 2 options of stainless bottom.
1 is raw with lower price, and the other one is DLC.


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What are the differences in the bottom upgrades?]
1. 7 deg bottom : For better dsound
2. brass bottom : for those who want full metal kbs.

is brass bottom PVD/DLC option?

edit: I'd also be interested in PC bottom + upgraded option.
Hi,
there's 2 options of stainless bottom.
1 is raw with lower price, and the other one is DLC.
sweet. any way to add extra bottom? kinda want the PC & DLC

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Hi

can I use holties with the DO60 pcb?

thanks
Chiwi60 round 2






Rama M60-A / Hako True

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How can I modify my order please?

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Chiwi60 round 2






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If I cannot join this round, when will be the next round?
I really need the HHKB 6u layout - there are only 1 or 2 keyboard kit that support this true HHKB layout for now.
Wishlist: 1) hotswap gasket mount; 2) nice Alps blank caps; 3) Hipro Iris with adjustable tenting; 4) CNC POM case
More
Wishful-list: 1) All POM; 2) We order from keyboard-layout-editor.com; 3) Usable Trackpoint MK
IBM M13 black
IBM SpaceSaver II
IBM KPD8923 Trackpoint
Choc mini Gateron black
PLUM 84 'Topre-clone' 55g Korean dome
HHKB Pro 2 HasuBT
[It's not I don't like ISO, but I need the HHKB backspace... only ~90WPM, in love with Emacs, and Lisp]

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How can I modify my order please?

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msg me or mail sy_yang@doyustudio.com

Hi

can I use holties with the DO60 pcb?

thanks

some pads is cut by others, might not stable enough.
Otherwise, it should work nice.
new pcb will not solve this problem(PADs are cut and not complete), although we reduced layout, it still a lot.


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Hi, guys!
We found we got some error paypal setting during last week.
Some of orders can not go through.
This groupbuy will extend a week to late Mar :)

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How can I see if my order is O.K.?
Chiwi60 round 2






Rama M60-A / Hako True

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Will the 6u HHKB top support the 2x3u Split layout?

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Will the 6u HHKB top support the 2x3u Split layout?

7u is supported. So no 6u I quess
Chiwi60 round 2






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Will the 6u HHKB top support the 2x3u Split layout?

7u is supported. So no 6u I quess

No 6u HHKB top???

I don't need to care about this GB anymore - and 7u top HHKB are also everywhere
Wishlist: 1) hotswap gasket mount; 2) nice Alps blank caps; 3) Hipro Iris with adjustable tenting; 4) CNC POM case
More
Wishful-list: 1) All POM; 2) We order from keyboard-layout-editor.com; 3) Usable Trackpoint MK
IBM M13 black
IBM SpaceSaver II
IBM KPD8923 Trackpoint
Choc mini Gateron black
PLUM 84 'Topre-clone' 55g Korean dome
HHKB Pro 2 HasuBT
[It's not I don't like ISO, but I need the HHKB backspace... only ~90WPM, in love with Emacs, and Lisp]

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Does the Doyu split also support ISO layout?

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I am really in into the sandblasted steel DLC version
it will be a really special board
Chiwi60 round 2






Rama M60-A / Hako True

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Is the RGB visible with the PVD/DLC bottom upgrade? Any pictures with that?

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Will the 6u HHKB top support the 2x3u Split layout?

7u is supported. So no 6u I quess

No 6u HHKB top???

I don't need to care about this GB anymore - and 7u top HHKB are also everywhere

The 6u top is right there on the store page. I think he just means you can't use the 2x3u spacebars with the 6u top.

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Has there been any updates to the plate since R1?  Not sure how big of an issue it was but apparently there was a bit of play when inserting the switch. Also will there be better QC on the plate finish? Most videos and photos Iíve seen have heeps of scratches.

Can anyone with an R1 confirm if these were real issues or just minor?

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QC should be good now. They produce this in Taiwan with companies nearer to Doyu Studio, so it is easier and faster for QC.
I talked to Gok some days earlier, he said the plates will be changed to eliminate the problems.

Has there been any updates to the plate since R1?  Not sure how big of an issue it was but apparently there was a bit of play when inserting the switch. Also will there be better QC on the plate finish? Most videos and photos Iíve seen have heeps of scratches.

Can anyone with an R1 confirm if these were real issues or just minor?
Chiwi60 round 2






Rama M60-A / Hako True

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QC should be good now. They produce this in Taiwan with companies nearer to Doyu Studio, so it is easier and faster for QC.
I talked to Gok some days earlier, he said the plates will be changed to eliminate the problems.

Was on the fence for those concerns so thanks for the feedback!

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Will the 6u HHKB top support the 2x3u Split layout?

7u is supported. So no 6u I quess

No 6u HHKB top???

I don't need to care about this GB anymore - and 7u top HHKB are also everywhere

The 6u top is right there on the store page. I think he just means you can't use the 2x3u spacebars with the 6u top.
Pretty sure you can do 2x3u. I found this while I was doing my pre-buy research.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7wquzp/chiwi60_hhkb_body


https://imgur.com/FaBbFy1.jpg

Sennin posted the second imgur link and it shows 2x3u is supported.


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Will the 6u HHKB top support the 2x3u Split layout?

7u is supported. So no 6u I quess

No 6u HHKB top???

I don't need to care about this GB anymore - and 7u top HHKB are also everywhere

The 6u top is right there on the store page. I think he just means you can't use the 2x3u spacebars with the 6u top.
Pretty sure you can do 2x3u. I found this while I was doing my pre-buy research.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7wquzp/chiwi60_hhkb_body


https://imgur.com/FaBbFy1.jpg

Sennin posted the second imgur link and it shows 2x3u is supported.

Thanks.

Sennin, can you confirm that this layout is possible?



Edit: just talked to him on Discord, it's NOT possible. Look at the position of the switch cutouts -- the blocker would interfere with the switches.
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Does the Doyu split also support ISO layout?

Hi, No, sorry :(
It only support ANSI enter.

Will the 6u HHKB top support the 2x3u Split layout?
Hi,
PCB support it.
But we make 7u HHKB this time.
Since we've made 6u in R1. Give 7u a shot!

7u is supported. So no 6u I quess

No 6u HHKB top???

I don't need to care about this GB anymore - and 7u top HHKB are also everywhere

The 6u top is right there on the store page. I think he just means you can't use the 2x3u spacebars with the 6u top.

Is the RGB visible with the PVD/DLC bottom upgrade? Any pictures with that?
Hi,
RGB will be blocked if you chose a full metal bottom upgrade.


Will the 6u HHKB top support the 2x3u Split layout?

7u is supported. So no 6u I quess

No 6u HHKB top???

I don't need to care about this GB anymore - and 7u top HHKB are also everywhere
Sorry, we offer 7u this time.

Has there been any updates to the plate since R1?  Not sure how big of an issue it was but apparently there was a bit of play when inserting the switch. Also will there be better QC on the plate finish? Most videos and photos Iíve seen have heeps of scratches.

Can anyone with an R1 confirm if these were real issues or just minor?
It did has scratches on the plate during R1.
We modified some designs of plate.
Make it easier to do surface processing easier by reducing holes on.
Also, we find another manufacturer to make some brass parts samples.
Although the sample is not good because of too many times rework.
(grind too many times, inner side does not process properly in the beginning and it is hard to do it correctly again)
Surface treatment is pretty nice though except some impure spot.
Those lighter spot is easy to find with black DLC coating, that's why we use stainless steel to avoid it this time.
Plate is still brass. But gold is lighter, the spot with lighter color is not easy to find.
For scratches, new manufacturer is in Taiwan, we can compare and visit more companies which we've done and make decision.
Also we're able to monitor manufacturing and check for major steps before it finished.

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Will the 6u HHKB top support the 2x3u Split layout?

7u is supported. So no 6u I quess

No 6u HHKB top???

I don't need to care about this GB anymore - and 7u top HHKB are also everywhere

The 6u top is right there on the store page. I think he just means you can't use the 2x3u spacebars with the 6u top.
Pretty sure you can do 2x3u. I found this while I was doing my pre-buy research.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7wquzp/chiwi60_hhkb_body


https://imgur.com/FaBbFy1.jpg

Sennin posted the second imgur link and it shows 2x3u is supported.

Thanks.

Sennin, can you confirm that this layout is possible?

Show Image


Edit: just talked to him on Discord, it's NOT possible. Look at the position of the switch cutouts -- the blocker would interfere with the switches.

Will the 6u HHKB top support the 2x3u Split layout?

7u is supported. So no 6u I quess

No 6u HHKB top???

I don't need to care about this GB anymore - and 7u top HHKB are also everywhere

The 6u top is right there on the store page. I think he just means you can't use the 2x3u spacebars with the 6u top.
Pretty sure you can do 2x3u. I found this while I was doing my pre-buy research.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7wquzp/chiwi60_hhkb_body


https://imgur.com/FaBbFy1.jpg

Sennin posted the second imgur link and it shows 2x3u is supported.



Hi,
Sorry, this layout is available in R1.
We offer 7u HHKB in R2.
Quantity is not enough, we can't make 2 at the same time.

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Will the 6u HHKB top support the 2x3u Split layout?

7u is supported. So no 6u I quess

No 6u HHKB top???

I don't need to care about this GB anymore - and 7u top HHKB are also everywhere

The 6u top is right there on the store page. I think he just means you can't use the 2x3u spacebars with the 6u top.
Pretty sure you can do 2x3u. I found this while I was doing my pre-buy research.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7wquzp/chiwi60_hhkb_body


https://imgur.com/FaBbFy1.jpg

Sennin posted the second imgur link and it shows 2x3u is supported.

Thanks.

Sennin, can you confirm that this layout is possible?

Show Image


Edit: just talked to him on Discord, it's NOT possible. Look at the position of the switch cutouts -- the blocker would interfere with the switches.

Will the 6u HHKB top support the 2x3u Split layout?

7u is supported. So no 6u I quess

No 6u HHKB top???

I don't need to care about this GB anymore - and 7u top HHKB are also everywhere

The 6u top is right there on the store page. I think he just means you can't use the 2x3u spacebars with the 6u top.
Pretty sure you can do 2x3u. I found this while I was doing my pre-buy research.

https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/7wquzp/chiwi60_hhkb_body


https://imgur.com/FaBbFy1.jpg

Sennin posted the second imgur link and it shows 2x3u is supported.



Hi,
Sorry, this layout is available in R1.
We offer 7u HHKB in R2.
Quantity is not enough, we can't make 2 at the same time.
So there is no option for 6u HHKB at all? This is an option on the buying page and I have already paid for it.

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Does the chiwi60 support usb c to usb c?

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Hi,
Sorry, this layout is available in R1.
We offer 7u HHKB in R2.
Quantity is not enough, we can't make 2 at the same time.
So there is no option for 6u HHKB at all? This is an option on the buying page and I have already paid for it.

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Can you clarify if you will be offering 6u HHKB top for R2? Thanks!

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Hi,
Sorry, this layout is available in R1.
We offer 7u HHKB in R2.
Quantity is not enough, we can't make 2 at the same time.
So there is no option for 6u HHKB at all? This is an option on the buying page and I have already paid for it.

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Can you clarify if you will be offering 6u HHKB top for R2? Thanks!
Might not be.
It has to be 10 pcs at least for each color...
If stainless orders are not enough.
We might make some origin HHKB layout and sell them later.
Won't make dessicion before May, unless there's 10 people want the same color for layout not that popular.
It's a little difficult, the only option might work should be white ED and stainless.
 But we will not order extra aluminum since the MoQ is not as hard to reach as stainless one.

Does the chiwi60 support usb c to usb c?
Yes, it does have issue during R1 sampling.
But we've fixed it before R1.
It won't have issue in R2.


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Did the black chiwi reach the moq?

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Did the black chiwi reach the moq?
Stainless?
Around 10 short @Q@

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Did the black chiwi reach the moq?
Stainless?
Around 10 short @Q@

Nah just the normal allu one

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Did the black chiwi reach the moq?
Stainless?
Around 10 short @Q@

Nah just the normal allu one

Not reach MoQ, but only few pcs short.
I'm asking if manufacturer are willing to make it.
White is okay, tiffany blue will cancel.

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Two days left from GB ends!
If you love this kit but not yet join it.
Check it now!

We'll make 15 kits of origin HHKB layout (with 6u space) with stainless steel.
Join group buy if you are interested in it :)

CHiwi60 : https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/projects/chiwi60
Buying page : https://shopkey.doyustudio.com/dy01b6

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Did the black chiwi reach the moq?
Stainless?
Around 10 short @Q@

Nah just the normal allu one

Not reach MoQ, but only few pcs short.
I'm asking if manufacturer are willing to make it.
White is okay, tiffany blue will cancel.

If the black one doesn't reach moq I down to change to the white if that's possible