Author Topic: GH60 Keyboard Project  (Read 606676 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline IvanIvanovich

  • Mr. Silk Underwear
  • Posts: 8199
  • Location: USA
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #350 on: Fri, 12 October 2012, 14:31:40 »
Just buy Cheap G80 from ebay or someplace. Get switches and stabilzers in one go, depend on switch type wanted can be easy, if lucky you can take care of all your keycaps too.

Offline slueth

  • Posts: 577
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #351 on: Fri, 12 October 2012, 16:18:09 »
interested

Offline Broadmonkey

  • Posts: 176
  • Location: DK
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #352 on: Fri, 12 October 2012, 17:50:14 »
Interested, if the price is not too high and we get some distribution going on in EU.

Offline neeb

  • Posts: 124
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #353 on: Sat, 13 October 2012, 18:39:08 »
Where did jdcarpe go! He's the one that originally posted this idea (at least this thread, I'm not trying to say he was or wasn't the first person to think of it idk lol) and really got things rolling here.

It looks like there's another ~20 people that are interested in this and I think we could get a lot more if the first post was updated with the new information we have finalized.

The more momentum we have on this, the better it is I think. And I know more people involved brings the prices down for everyone as well :D

Offline MarkPharaoh

  • Posts: 139
  • Location: Seattle
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #354 on: Sat, 13 October 2012, 18:51:31 »
I want sexy keyboard!
Current: HHKB Pro 2, 87u 55g 10AE, FC600C, Model M 1391401

Offline tjcaustin

  • King Klaxon
  • * Maker
  • Posts: 3557
  • Location: Dallas-ish
  • King of All Klaxon Sciences and Cable Makery
    • Buy stuff
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #355 on: Sat, 13 October 2012, 19:02:52 »
I think we're still waiting on komar to finish the pcb options first.             

Offline jdcarpe

  • * Curator
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 8852
  • Location: Odessa, TX
  • Live long, and prosper.
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #356 on: Sat, 13 October 2012, 19:10:35 »
Okay, neeb, I updated the first post. :D

I think we will get at least 100 orders, if not more.
KMAC :: LZ-GH :: WASD CODE :: WASD v2 :: GH60 :: Alps64 :: JD45 :: IBM Model M :: IBM 4704 "Pingmaster"

http://jd40.info :: http://jd45.info


in memoriam

"When I was a kid, I used to take things apart and never put them back together."

Offline IvanIvanovich

  • Mr. Silk Underwear
  • Posts: 8199
  • Location: USA
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #357 on: Sat, 13 October 2012, 19:12:09 »
It needs to be moved into the groupbuy subforum too. Get this party started. I don't want to see it take months and months, I want a better 60% like nao!

Offline MMB

  • I no longer use this account. Please email me.
  • Posts: 1162
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #358 on: Sat, 13 October 2012, 19:15:18 »
It needs to be moved into the groupbuy subforum too. Get this party started. I don't want to see it take months and months, I want a better 60% like nao!

Yes.

Offline neeb

  • Posts: 124
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #359 on: Sat, 13 October 2012, 19:25:18 »
Okay, neeb, I updated the first post. :D

I think we will get at least 100 orders, if not more.

w00t! Awesome! Welcome back, man :D!

Offline alaricljs

  • I be WOT'ing all day...
  • ** Moderator Emeritus
  • Posts: 3715
  • Location: NE US
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #360 on: Sat, 13 October 2012, 23:20:39 »
When there is something to buy then start a new thread... pushing a 13 page discussion into GBs and converting it to a GB is just silly.
Filco w/ Imsto thick PBT
Ducky 1087XM PCB+Plate, w/ Matias "Quiet Click" spring-swapped w/ XM Greens

Offline MMB

  • I no longer use this account. Please email me.
  • Posts: 1162
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #361 on: Sat, 13 October 2012, 23:36:16 »
My body is ready. Let's do this.

Offline poopmat

  • Posts: 92
  • Location: Naples FL
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #362 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 00:13:21 »
might as well throw my hat in the ring
ill go for one
REΛLFORCE 103u, Ergodex DX1, IBM model M, Daskeyboard II, QFR brown,

Offline fl0w3n

  • Posts: 269
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #363 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 00:20:52 »

Offline huttala

  • Posts: 63
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #364 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 00:34:25 »
I'll take one as well.

Will it be possible to use a normal right shift instead of the shorter one? I want it as normal as possible so I can use it with normal key caps.

I'm still in for one either way.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II using Tapatalk.


Offline neeb

  • Posts: 124
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #365 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 00:36:32 »
I'll take one as well.

Will it be possible to use a normal right shift instead of the shorter one? I want it as normal as possible so I can use it with normal key caps.

I'm still in for one either way.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II using Tapatalk.



Yeah, you can use a normal right shift :D That may not be clear in the first post but it was asked and answered toward the end of this thread:

I'd love to put my name down for one, only thing holding me back is the proposed smaller right shift and it not being the normal 2.75 width..
The smaller right shift is just an option. The other option is normal 2.75 shift. It's you to decide by soldering the switch in the right place.

Offline jcrouse

  • Posts: 709
  • Location: Missouri, USA
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #366 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 00:52:59 »
I'm in

Offline fl0w3n

  • Posts: 269
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #367 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 00:54:48 »
Anyone have pictures of nice ISO 60% boards, if they exist?  Considering getting this in my first ISO layout...

Offline fl0w3n

  • Posts: 269
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #368 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 00:55:19 »
You can also add me to the front list, and if price is out of my budget then I'll back out.  Thanks

Offline MMB

  • I no longer use this account. Please email me.
  • Posts: 1162
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #369 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 00:59:18 »
Anyone have pictures of nice ISO 60% boards, if they exist?  Considering getting this in my first ISO layout...


Offline fl0w3n

  • Posts: 269
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #370 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 01:00:54 »
Don't think it would take long to shine those keys...

Offline fl0w3n

  • Posts: 269
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #371 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 01:01:56 »

Offline mistakemistake

  • Global Loveinator
  • Posts: 373
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #372 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 01:29:21 »
in for sure!

Offline damorgue

  • Posts: 1176
  • Location: Sweden
    • Personal portfolio
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #373 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 01:32:32 »
Anyone have pictures of nice ISO 60% boards, if they exist?  Considering getting this in my first ISO layout...

There are none. That is why this one is so great.

Offline neeb

  • Posts: 124
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #374 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 01:33:21 »
Anyone have pictures of nice ISO 60% boards, if they exist?  Considering getting this in my first ISO layout...

Looks like they don't exist (yet ;D)


There's a thread for that...It's called the KS Mini. :P

Doesn't exist in ISO. There is no small ISO board at all unfortunately, so these things are our only hope.


Ok, well as long as it is small and ISO, it will still be the first ever to be made.

I am in for one if that wasn't obvious by now.


... Like you said, it will be the very first (that I know of, anyway) 60% board with ISO layout.

Offline fl0w3n

  • Posts: 269
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #375 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 01:39:14 »
There are none. That is why this one is so great.

I'm in.

Offline huttala

  • Posts: 63
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #376 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 02:15:25 »
I'll take one as well.

Will it be possible to use a normal right shift instead of the shorter one? I want it as normal as possible so I can use it with normal key caps.

I'm still in for one either way.

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II using Tapatalk.



Yeah, you can use a normal right shift :D That may not be clear in the first post but it was asked and answered toward the end of this thread:

I'd love to put my name down for one, only thing holding me back is the proposed smaller right shift and it not being the normal 2.75 width..
The smaller right shift is just an option. The other option is normal 2.75 shift. It's you to decide by soldering the switch in the right place.

Normal right shift and iso, ehrmagherd I'm in!!

Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note II using Tapatalk.

Offline tjcaustin

  • King Klaxon
  • * Maker
  • Posts: 3557
  • Location: Dallas-ish
  • King of All Klaxon Sciences and Cable Makery
    • Buy stuff
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #377 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 08:15:59 »
Hmmm.  Could make a board with green switches/led, use CCnG caps, get a green cable and paint a case green/buy a green aluminum one?

In here, too.

Offline Acanthophis

  • Posts: 377
  • Location: Germany
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #378 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 08:32:17 »
Interested for a long time now, might as well state it here.

I just hope I will have money when the GB is coming up.
Also, if it saves shipping, I would propose a distributor in Europe for all the folks over there.

(now going to advertise this project in Germany :D )

Offline Halverson

  • Traitor Supreme
  • Posts: 6806
  • GIRLSHARK WIZBRO
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #379 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 08:34:19 »
Hmmm.  Could make a board with green switches/led, use CCnG caps, get a green cable and paint a case green/buy a green aluminum one?

In here, too.

Hmm sounds like my poker with ghetto greens, CCnG, green cable and green aluminum case. Only difference is no LEDs!

Offline tjcaustin

  • King Klaxon
  • * Maker
  • Posts: 3557
  • Location: Dallas-ish
  • King of All Klaxon Sciences and Cable Makery
    • Buy stuff
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #380 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 08:37:10 »
Interested for a long time now, might as well state it here.

I just hope I will have money when the GB is coming up.
Also, if it saves shipping, I would propose a distributor in Europe for all the folks over there.

(now going to advertise this project in Germany :D )
Thanks for reminding me to get in 7bit's switch buy!

Hmmm.  Could make a board with green switches/led, use CCnG caps, get a green cable and paint a case green/buy a green aluminum one?

In here, too.

Hmm sounds like my poker with ghetto greens, CCnG, green cable and green aluminum case. Only difference is no LEDs!

If this happens, my pure(blue switches/leds) will get CCnB and I'll keep the blue aluminum case/blue cable I have.

Offline komar007

  • Posts: 712
  • Location: Poland
    • komar's blog
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #381 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 09:02:22 »


Also, if it saves shipping, I would propose a distributor in Europe for all the folks over there.
(now going to advertise this project in Germany )


It looks like I will take care of the distribution, so Europe is not a problem.
America either, shipping is rather cheap, if you don't want tracking.


Sorry for the delays again, I had some stuff to do.
I don't want to promise another term of making the prototype. I'll try as soon as I can.
GH60 rev. B w/ ali's case|Cherry G80-3000 HFU/05|IBM Model M (51G8572)
Check out the GH60 project! | How to make a keyboard

Offline rindorbrot

  • Posts: 226
  • Location: Germany
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #382 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 11:36:42 »
I guess i am interested, too :D
I was dreaming of an ISO Poker just this morning...

Offline MMB

  • I no longer use this account. Please email me.
  • Posts: 1162
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #383 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 11:49:06 »
I guess i am interested, too :D
I was dreaming of an ISO Poker just this morning...

I am sure it wouldn't take much to modify a poker PCB to and ISO. I guess you would need to be able to program the ROM, or add a teensy controller, though. Actually yeah, it would be a lot of work :P

Offline ter_

  • Posts: 3
  • Location: Thailand
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #384 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 15:32:59 »
I'm in.

Offline The_Beast

  • * Maker
  • Posts: 3964
  • Location: Wisconsin
  • I like wood ಠ_๏
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #385 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 17:42:08 »


Also, if it saves shipping, I would propose a distributor in Europe for all the folks over there.
(now going to advertise this project in Germany )


It looks like I will take care of the distribution, so Europe is not a problem.
America either, shipping is rather cheap, if you don't want tracking.


Sorry for the delays again, I had some stuff to do.
I don't want to promise another term of making the prototype. I'll try as soon as I can.

I could do US distributing since I'll be handling the plates (as far as I know).
Vendor Status: Sadly, not taking any orders/pre-orders at this time

Vendor Quick Links: | Vendor Forum | Hardwood Wrist Rests | Hardwood 60% Cases | Customer Gallery | Giveaway |

Offline Acanthophis

  • Posts: 377
  • Location: Germany
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #386 on: Sun, 14 October 2012, 17:49:11 »
I am sure it wouldn't take much to modify a poker PCB to and ISO. I guess you would need to be able to program the ROM, or add a teensy controller, though. Actually yeah, it would be a lot of work :p
Installing a new controller and reprogramming it is the easiest part.
I read an ANSI to ISO Mod for a PCB mounted at DT/KBD.
You have to drill for the extra switch, and I assure you, this is one hell of a job. I wouldn't attempt it, not even in my dreams.
And I also think this Phantom Mini will be cheaper, too :D

Offline komar007

  • Posts: 712
  • Location: Poland
    • komar's blog
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #387 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 01:35:37 »
I could do US distributing since I'll be handling the plates (as far as I know).

Great, if this saves saves shipping, why not.
GH60 rev. B w/ ali's case|Cherry G80-3000 HFU/05|IBM Model M (51G8572)
Check out the GH60 project! | How to make a keyboard

Offline JonDBurnett

  • Posts: 53
  • Location: Palm Springs, California
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #388 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 02:22:37 »
quick question, and im sorry in advance if this has been asked and answered before, but i would really like to save myself an hour of reading.

Will the PCB  come with the teensy installed? and as far as i am aware, the plate mount we are going to use DOES allow for switch swapping WITHOUT desoldering, right?
Filco MJ2 TKL | HHKB Type-S w/ MX Sliders

Offline WhiteFireDragon

  • Posts: 2276
    • youtube
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #389 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 05:45:11 »
You'll probably have to solder the daughterboard that has the controller on it, just like the custom phantom. Yes, the plate will allow you to change the spring and stems without desoldering the whole switch.

Offline komar007

  • Posts: 712
  • Location: Poland
    • komar's blog
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #390 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 05:53:14 »
quick question, and im sorry in advance if this has been asked and answered before, but i would really like to save myself an hour of reading.

Will the PCB  come with the teensy installed? and as far as i am aware, the plate mount we are going to use DOES allow for switch swapping WITHOUT desoldering, right?


The PCB has an integrated teensy-compatible controller.
As for the plates, they're not designed yet as far as I know.
GH60 rev. B w/ ali's case|Cherry G80-3000 HFU/05|IBM Model M (51G8572)
Check out the GH60 project! | How to make a keyboard

Offline WhiteFireDragon

  • Posts: 2276
    • youtube
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #391 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 05:56:33 »
Ah so no daughterboard and the SMD soldering will be done at the factory? Plates aren't designed yet, but it should have the same design as phantom. A normal stock plate design for a custom KB would just be foolish.

Offline jdcarpe

  • * Curator
  • Thread Starter
  • Posts: 8852
  • Location: Odessa, TX
  • Live long, and prosper.
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #392 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 06:51:27 »
Correct. I tried to explain as much in the updated OP, but maybe I wasn't clear enough. The PCB will be produced with the electronics, to include the ATmega32u4 controller chip and any diodes, already installed by the fabrication house. The only soldering required will be when you mount your own switches in the board.

Any plate design we choose will incorporate the cutouts on the sides for removal of the switch housing cover without desoldering from the PCB.

I think we will be selling PCB and plate as separate units, so you could purchase only one or the other, or different combinations of them.

We won't be selling switches, cases, stabilizers, LEDs, keycaps, or anything else. You will have to source those yourself, if you don't already have them.
KMAC :: LZ-GH :: WASD CODE :: WASD v2 :: GH60 :: Alps64 :: JD45 :: IBM Model M :: IBM 4704 "Pingmaster"

http://jd40.info :: http://jd45.info


in memoriam

"When I was a kid, I used to take things apart and never put them back together."

Offline ZcHuer

  • Posts: 94
  • Location: Beijing, China
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #393 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 07:07:26 »
Correct. I tried to explain as much in the updated OP, but maybe I wasn't clear enough. The PCB will be produced with the electronics, to include the ATmega32u4 controller chip and any diodes, already installed by the fabrication house. The only soldering required will be when you mount your own switches in the board.

Any plate design we choose will incorporate the cutouts on the sides for removal of the switch housing cover without desoldering from the PCB.

I think we will be selling PCB and plate as separate units, so you could purchase only one or the other, or different combinations of them.

We won't be selling switches, cases, stabilizers, LEDs, keycaps, or anything else. You will have to source those yourself, if you don't already have them.

Thanks ;D, Still trying my best to be in the interested list~~~
...

Offline Hzza

  • Posts: 377
  • Location: Windsor, UK
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #394 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 07:11:08 »
I'm not sure if this diagram is sitll relevant (or the one further down that page) but they both show PCB mounting pins for the switches so I want to double check; this is going to take both PCB and plate mounted switches/stabs, right?

Offline komar007

  • Posts: 712
  • Location: Poland
    • komar's blog
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #395 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 07:15:52 »
I'm not sure if this diagram is sitll relevant (or the one further down that page) but they both show PCB mounting pins for the switches so I want to double check; this is going to take both PCB and plate mounted switches/stabs, right?

Yes
Correct. I tried to explain as much in the updated OP, but maybe I wasn't clear enough. The PCB will be produced with the electronics, to include the ATmega32u4 controller chip and any diodes, already installed by the fabrication house. The only soldering required will be when you mount your own switches in the board.

Any plate design we choose will incorporate the cutouts on the sides for removal of the switch housing cover without desoldering from the PCB.

I think we will be selling PCB and plate as separate units, so you could purchase only one or the other, or different combinations of them.

We won't be selling switches, cases, stabilizers, LEDs, keycaps, or anything else. You will have to source those yourself, if you don't already have them.
Actually, maybe switches and stabilizers wouldn't be a bad idea. There maybe some who don't want to solder, and I can handle it. That will depend on how many people are interested in getting it presoldered with switches.
Also, stabilizers are hard to get, except from donor boards. Maybe a group buy would be a good idea (even a separate one).
GH60 rev. B w/ ali's case|Cherry G80-3000 HFU/05|IBM Model M (51G8572)
Check out the GH60 project! | How to make a keyboard

Offline Hzza

  • Posts: 377
  • Location: Windsor, UK
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #396 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 07:25:50 »
Thanks for confirming, might double my order in that case ;).

Switches can come from 7bits GB but plate mounted Cherry stabs are pretty hard to get hold of so a GB for those might be an idea. Costar stabs can be had from WASD and PCB mounted Cherry stabs can be had from any cheapy Cherry donar boards (I've probably amassed about 6 boards worth without even really trying) so I don't think those will be much of an issue.

Also if switches are the only things that need soldering I don't mind offering a UK based soldering service.

Offline damorgue

  • Posts: 1176
  • Location: Sweden
    • Personal portfolio
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #397 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 10:38:00 »
alaricljs just ran a GB for them, I believe he got them from mouser.

Offline Losedge

  • Posts: 1
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #398 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 11:26:38 »
I'm very interested, do add me to the interested list if possible ;D

Offline MMB

  • I no longer use this account. Please email me.
  • Posts: 1162
Re: [Final Prototyping] GH60 Keyboard
« Reply #399 on: Mon, 15 October 2012, 11:31:47 »
Why isn't this a GB yet?