Della 960 - TKL F13 WKL (30/7/2024- Prototype v4 picture Update)

[DELLA KEY]

About Della 960.
Sharing photos of Della 960 Prototype v4!

I have received the Della 960 Prototype v4.
The production period for the prototype v4 was approximately 7 months, and I was informed that mass production was not possible at the current factory due to processing difficulty.
Therefore, we plan to contact other manufacturing plants to proceed with production.
(Because the current factory is also a famous factory, the success of production at other factories is also uncertain. There is a possibility of mass production by sacrificing some parts, such as changing materials, but I have no intention of changing parts other than what I thought. As a result, mass production may not be possible in the end. It may be possible.)

Prototype v4 changes:
Added top logo + Changed structure to improve keystroke sound
Prototype v5 scheduled for change:
Structural change to improve the key sound (rather than a perfect key sound, I want to change it in the direction I want) + To check the quality of other factories

Prototype v5 structural design is in progress.
There is a possibility that the desired quality may not be achieved.
If sales are not made due to reasons of completeness or mass production, only the two Expo raffle winners, those who participated in the design, and my personal quantity will be produced, and the case and subsidiary materials will likely be discarded.

I will provide further notice after receiving prototype v5.

Thank you!


0. CONTENTS

1. 2024 SEOUL EXPO
2. Spec Details
3. Assembly Layout
4. Render
5. Photos
6. Information
7. History
8. Development Log


1. 2024 SEOUL EXPO

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2. Spec Details

- Layout : F13 TKL (WKL Only)
- Material
  - Top Piece & Mid Piece : 6063 Aluminum(Cream white E-coat)
  - Bottom Piece : Full copper (anti-corrosion coating and Ceramic Clear Coated)
- Plate Material : FR4
- Case Angle : 9°
- Front Height : 17.5mm
- Estimated Weight : 5.2Kg built
- PCB : Solder Only (H88nu North Facing)

(H88nu Layout)

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3. Assembly Layout

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4. Render

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5. Photos

Prototype v1(30/06/2023)

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Please consider that this is a rough prototype.
The second prototype will be built with additional mechanical design improvements.
I will upload additional build photos when the substrate arrives.[/color]

[01/07/2023]

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[14/07/2023]

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Prototype v2(25/11/2023)

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Prototype v3(25/01/2024)

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Prototype v4(18/06/2024)




















6. Information

- Price : about 1250 USD
- Selling Method : about 40 units
- Vender : Della
- Schedule : Expected March-April


7. History

History Website

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8. Development Log

Keyboard
- waiting for Prototype v1
- 30/06/2023 - Prototype v1 picture update
- waiting for Prototype v2
- 11/25/2023 - Prototype v2 picture update
- waiting for Prototype v3
About Prototype v3
  - Final color (electrophoresis beige)
  - This is the final detail improvement and color confirmation prototype. If there are no problems, this will probably be the final prototype.
Prototype v4 production decision due to prototype v3 quality issues
- waiting for Prototype v4
- 30/07/2024 - Prototype v4 picture update

- The production period for the prototype v4 was approximately 7 months, and I was informed that mass production was not possible at the current factory due to processing difficulty.
Therefore, we plan to contact other manufacturing plants to proceed with production.
(Because the current factory is also a famous factory, the success of production at other factories is also uncertain. There is a possibility of mass production by sacrificing some parts, such as changing materials, but I have no intention of changing parts other than what I thought. As a result, mass production may not be possible in the end.)

- waiting for Prototype v5

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Parts other than keyboard
- A keyboard Plate prototype v1 is in production.
- A keyboard Plate prototype v2 is in production.
- A keyboard Plate prototype v3 is in production.
- A keyboard Plate prototype v4 is in production.
- A keyboard Plate prototype v5 is in production.
- A keyboard Plate prototype v6 is in production.
- A keyboard Plate prototype v7 is in production.
- A keyboard Plate prototype v8 is in production.
- A keyboard Plate prototype v9 is in production.
- A Keyboard Plate prototype v10 production in progress.

- A keyboard case prototype v1 is in production.
- A keyboard case prototype v2 is in production.
- A keyboard case prototype v3 is in production.
- A keyboard case prototype v4 is in production.
- A Keyboard Case production in progress
- Keyboard case production completed.

- A Keyboard E-Plate production in progress.

- A Keyboard Bolt prototype v1 is in production.
- A Keyboard Bolt prototype v2 is in production.
- A Keyboard Bolt production completed.

- A Keyboard Bolt wrench prototype v1 is in production.
- A Keyboard Bolt wrench production completed.

- A Keyboard Bolt Case production in progress
- A Keyboard Bolt Case production completed.

- A Keyboard warranty card prototype v1 is in production.
- A Keyboard warranty card prototype v2 is in production.

- A Keyboard warranty card Case prototype v1 is in production.
- A Keyboard warranty card Case production completed.


- Website production in progress.


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[DirtyGingy]

Holy hell that price. I can see it being higher, but maybe I'm missing something.

[Mecxs]

I'm gonna need a stronger desk.

[nostr]

I think this keyboard is special.

[twitchytheinsideman]

thicc. GLWIC

[aicyborg]

That side profile is immaculate. I'd love to buy one of these. Thanks for ISO support!

[ResponsibleSpender]

I'm a lurker, but I had to come out and say this is beautiful.

[The0rigina1]

Reverse keycult no3 giggle

[phinix]

$1000-1500? Are you nuts?

[Carcha]

Definitely following this closely. Very, very interesting board. Great job with the design, I hope it turns out just as gorgeous.

[keybay.tech]

really cool design!

[DELLA KEY]

Holy hell that price. I can see it being higher, but maybe I'm missing something.

thank you for your attention.

[DELLA KEY]

I'm gonna need a stronger desk.

thank you for your attention Mecxs. have a nice day.

[DELLA KEY]

I think this keyboard is special.

thanks nostr. This is the best keyboard I've ever thought of.

[DELLA KEY]

thicc. GLWIC

thank you I wish you success in your art work.

[DELLA KEY]

That side profile is immaculate. I'd love to buy one of these. Thanks for ISO support!

Thanks aicyborg. Have a good day.

[DELLA KEY]

I'm a lurker, but I had to come out and say this is beautiful.

thank you bless your day

[DELLA KEY]

Reverse keycult no3 giggle

thank you

[DELLA KEY]

$1000-1500? Are you nuts?

Yes.

[DELLA KEY]

Definitely following this closely. Very, very interesting board. Great job with the design, I hope it turns out just as gorgeous.

thank you. I've tested many other parts, but in the case of the keystroke sound, I plan to test it additionally through a reinforcement plate prototype.

[Rhienfo]

Interesting project (even though it's not for me, but not everything should be catered toward me XD)

1000 USD does seem steep, but considering the more complex design, the large amounts of copper and the low moq (Like 30moq) it seems like it's fine, but I'm not too well versed about machining and quoting so keep in mind of that.

GLWIC

[DELLA KEY]

Interesting project (even though it's not for me, but not everything should be catered toward me XD)

1000 USD does seem steep, but considering the more complex design, the large amounts of copper and the low moq (Like 30moq) it seems like it's fine, but I'm not too well versed about machining and quoting so keep in mind of that.

GLWIC

 Thank you Rhienfo.
I am focusing on the design elements that stimulate the mind and the direction I pursue.

 We are aware that the della 960 has an high price point unlike regular keyboards.
This is because I did what I wanted without compromising a single thing in terms of price.

This will be the most satisfying keyboard for me.

 thank you and Have a good day.

[sketch3v]

$1500

[tactilesbad]

yeah, no

[DELLA KEY]

$1500

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thank you for your attention sketch3v. have a nice day.

[DELLA KEY]

yeah, no

Thank you for your continued interest tactilesbad.
Have a nice day

[DELLA KEY]

(30/06/2023 - FIRST PROTOTYPE PICTURE UPDATE)

[aicyborg]

Honestly, if you end up somewhere near $1000 I'm in. If you end up around $1500 I'm probably out 'cos I can't afford that. Either way, that side is fantastic. I love your aesthetic. Really good stuff.

[DELLA KEY]

Honestly, if you end up somewhere near $1000 I'm in. If you end up around $1500 I'm probably out 'cos I can't afford that. Either way, that side is fantastic. I love your aesthetic. Really good stuff.

Yes, thank you for your interest in our work.
We are working hard in many ways to not give up on the direction we are pursuing.
Everything is fantastic and we are preparing step by step.
Blessings in your future as well.
Thank you aicyborg.

[DELLA KEY]

- 01/07/2023 Prototype Picture Update
- 14/07/2023 Prototype Picture Update
- Reflect build weight

[treeleaf64]

I do very much like the design, and I hope you can make MOQ : )

[adsfqwer]

Stunning.

I like that you have clear goals about sound/materials. Whoever buys this is experiencing your vision.

[Furki]

Board looks pretty nice but $1000-$1500 is pretty steep. I guess those are the respective price estimates for the MOQ of 30 and 50.
I dont even want to know what you paid for the protos ouch 

[DELLA KEY]

I do very much like the design, and I hope you can make MOQ : )

Thank you so much for your interest

Stunning.

I like that you have clear goals about sound/materials. Whoever buys this is experiencing your vision.

thank you. We are working more towards a clear direction rather than market sales. I hope the design and the sound I'm pursuing are conveyed well.

Board looks pretty nice but $1000-$1500 is pretty steep. I guess those are the respective price estimates for the MOQ of 30 and 50.
I dont even want to know what you paid for the protos ouch 

Thank you for your interest.
 Yes, we are thinking about selling after securing instock to control uncertain variables in the first sale.
(The actual defect rate for each fabrication has not been established, so if it is proceeded with GB, the keybaord quantity may be insufficient or excessive.)
 We are not a big company, so we can't prepare a lot of quantities with instock.

[Surefoot]

Completely crazy. I'm in.
(edit) since we're talking more than $1000 per unit we're in bespoke luxury item territory - could we have plate files, or a dedicated ISO and ANSI plates at least I appreciate the standard PCB support (great future proofing), but your pursuit of perfect sound should also include the switch plate...

[Morbii]

I quite like this.  Not sure if it 'll be in the budget though

[doctorboy]

Thanks for sharing this project, it is one of the most interesting design-wise TKLs that have seen for a long time. Since the first day, I've been lurking and wondering how it would end up, the first prototypes. They are stunning!
It is very likely that I won't be able to buy one of the units due to its price, but I would love to try/see one someday.

I have some quick questions/suggestions from my side that you may find useful:
- Not sure which type of daughterboard you are planning to use, but would you consider using a Unified USB daughterboard? It is an open-source project and I believe it is aligned with the concept of using well-known electronics, as you are doing with the h88nu.
- Design-wise, I also would say that I would prefer to have the USB port located in a lower position. It will be safer and will be, at least to my eyes, more aesthetically pleasing.
- I've seen your answer about the aluminium middle piece, but would you consider the usage of other materials as optional?

Please continue to pursue your dream board and have some fun while doing it.
GLWIC!

[Jecxz]

I’m in

[juniper37559]

I think $1000~1500 is for one-off keyboard. I suppose any keyboard groupbuy above $1000 just didn't get a reasonable quote from the manu.

[DELLA KEY]

Completely crazy. I'm in.
(edit) since we're talking more than $1000 per unit we're in bespoke luxury item territory - could we have plate files, or a dedicated ISO and ANSI plates at least I appreciate the standard PCB support (great future proofing), but your pursuit of perfect sound should also include the switch plate...

hello. Thank you for your attention.
We will review this positively.

I quite like this.  Not sure if it 'll be in the budget though

Hello. When looking at a new endeavor, Don't necessarily have to buy it.
I feel very rewarding just for interest.
Thank you for your attention.

Thanks for sharing this project, it is one of the most interesting design-wise TKLs that have seen for a long time. Since the first day, I've been lurking and wondering how it would end up, the first prototypes. They are stunning!
It is very likely that I won't be able to buy one of the units due to its price, but I would love to try/see one someday.

I have some quick questions/suggestions from my side that you may find useful:
- Not sure which type of daughterboard you are planning to use, but would you consider using a Unified USB daughterboard? It is an open-source project and I believe it is aligned with the concept of using well-known electronics, as you are doing with the h88nu.
- Design-wise, I also would say that I would prefer to have the USB port located in a lower position. It will be safer and will be, at least to my eyes, more aesthetically pleasing.
- I've seen your answer about the aluminium middle piece, but would you consider the usage of other materials as optional?

Please continue to pursue your dream board and have some fun while doing it.
GLWIC!

Hello, thank you for the good discussion suggestion. These conversations are very helpful for progress.

1. Let's discuss positively.
2. We tried it, but we thought it was not perfect in terms of design.
3. We are not thinking about changing the material of the middle plate yet. This is our first try and we feel it's important to create what we think is best. You can try and review it later.

I’m in

hello. Thank you for your attention.

I think $1000~1500 is for one-off keyboard. I suppose any keyboard groupbuy above $1000 just didn't get a reasonable quote from the manu.

Yes, not all keyboards have the same purpose.
We do not know the exact risk or QC scope for the factory.

  Therefore, we plan to make all products and proceed with instock. (This method helps to eliminate all problem elements. This means small quantity. Limited budget)

  In addition, there were no compromises in favor of design, material and structure processing.
This keyboard is not a universally reasonable keyboard.

Hello. When looking at a new endeavor, Don't necessarily have to buy it.
I feel very rewarding just for interest.
Thank you for your attention.

[aicyborg]

Where do you plan to announce that the sale will commence? I'm interested.

[jesse_le]

Wow, looks so nice! Congrats DellaKey!

[spacegrey]

I hope this won't be a raffle since I really, really like the idea of this

[DELLA KEY]

Where do you plan to announce that the sale will commence? I'm interested.

I will deliver the news through GeekHack and my Discord & Instagram.

Wow, looks so nice! Congrats DellaKey!

Thanks for your interest! I wish you all the best in your work too jesse

I hope this won't be a raffle since I really, really like the idea of this

Yes, but it's probably hard to avoid.
Some say first-come, first-served is reasonable.
Some say Raffle is reasonable.
we are contemplating.

Thanks for your interest

[lkkedward]

Hope this would hit $8-900 finally

[DELLA KEY]

Hope this would hit $8-900 finally

The factory said it was difficult to process.
It may be difficult to get the price down to that price range.
I understand the complaints about the price of this keyboard being too high.

Thank you for your interest.

[ToFuMaNiA]

sheeshh that side profile

[masje]

love heavy bois

[DELLA KEY]

sheeshh that side profile

Sorry I didn't understand.

love heavy bois

thank you. I'm still working on prototype v2.
Manufacturing the keyboard at the factory is taking longer than expected.

[Carcha]

sheeshh that side profile

Sorry I didn't understand.

He is saying the side profile is very very nice.