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Offline paulgali

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[IC] DCS 9009 (GB complete)
« on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:50:54 »
DCS 9009

GB complete

Cannonkeys target prices are as follows:

Base, 200MOQ, $120
Alps, 75MOQ, $115
Extensions, 100MOQ, $35
Row 5, 50MOQ, $22
Relegendable, 50MOQ, $25

Regional vendors will provide pricing closer to the GB dates due to current exchange rates jumping around.

The focus of this specific IC is on kitting. I'd like to get feedback on this now, so I can make several changes. I am waiting for SP to come back to me specifically with certain icon samples.


You know what 9009 is, and I wanted a basic, boring beige DCS set. I've been lazy since October, but now I want to push ahead. There's the inspiration. Red alert's color scheme, nor sleeper, were for me. This set uses Signature Plastics' classic WYSE fontface, making for once damn clean look :nut: wait this isn't discord...


WHY???
DCS does have much thinner plastic, and whilst this is (incorrectly) believed to be a detriment to quality caps, I have yet to find people who say they hate how it feels and sounds. Think of it as a more 'chirpy' cap, which simultaneously allows you to really feel the switch more. Simple physics, thin cap = less force dampening :D


Colors
Using stock SP colors, and compared to GMK



Expect a 5-10 USD Difference when vendors confirm pricing. My targets are relatively aggressive, considering MOQ breakdown

Base - $120 Target



Extensions (basic 40s and spaces) - $35 Target
Spacebars under 4.5u are always concave. Nothing I can do about that, so imagine blank shift keys just alpha colored.



Row 5 replacement kit - $25 Target
SP calls it R5. It makes more sense to call it R0 but eh, whatever.


For clarity, this is how R5 SP is profiled:



Relegendables (per row, 1-4) - $25 Target



Alps kit - $110 Target

A message direct from SP:

Alps doubleshot keys are cosmetically difficult to mold. The stem doesn’t have much plastic to hang onto when we mold a first shot under the key, so your customers should be aware that too much removal of the key from the switch could result in the switch breaking (we can’t offer replacements for these).





Deskmats
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If you want a themed mat, go ask Omnitype to make more. There are 1000s of deskmat designs, go use one of them.

Render samples

Render samples are just to give you an idea of how it looks. Colors have been matched as accurately as possible

Seen here on the Safa 5.88






Vendors & Pricing
All prices are my targets based on specific MOQs and feedback from certain vendors.
Group buy set to go live early September!!

US - Cannonkeys
EU - MyKeyboard.eu
UK - Prototypist
Oceania - Daily Clack
SEAS - Hex Keyboard
India - Rectangles.store
Canada - Apexkeyboards


For Gulf states, I recommend buying from Hex. I will accommodate shipping for the region specifically unless you choose to use SNS.


Updates
2021-04-14: Mod pipe added. Since everyone seems upset about this :D
2021-05-18: Received new quotes for updated kitting
2021-05-18: Colors confirmed
2021-08-01: Renders complete
2021-08-04: Vendors confirmed, GB dates speculated, waiting final confirmation


Credits

Fooblitzky - a massive shoutout to this guy for making things open source. I had trouble modelling things myself, without this renders would be 110% worse.

Janglad - for being a good lad
Renderman Bachoo - amazing job helping me visualize this
Tom - for the advice with ISO kitting
Uncle - your red accented Insert is coming :D


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Offline Pontus

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:51:20 »
Yes! Finally more DCS!
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Offline paulgali

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:52:34 »
You were too quick for me, my browser didn't refresh. Uh, reserved but 2nd comment i guess

16/6/2021: After so much back and forth with certain people, and really my own preferences, I'm moving this back to Text+icon. It also makes more sense as some parts of this IC are a direct reference to G80 9009 HAU.

18/7/2021: Having trouble with certain vendors - working to resolve. Good news, rendering is working again, so hopefully soon ill be able to give updates. Something Something Alps

02/8/2021: Final Renders complete, final quotes being received from SP. GB target date set to early September. - Will bump thread with confirmed prices.

09/8/2021: GB target September 6th -> October 3rd. Awaiting Upas updates  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:53:53 »
I love the deskmat, really brings out the blue from Gater Ron's hat
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:54:30 »
 :cool:
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:54:46 »
Perfection
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Offline Badmutha

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:57:07 »
Glad to see more DCS sets being made. Nice work on the kitting too
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Offline 10peaches

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #7 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:58:25 »
Alps please?


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Offline stimuz

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #8 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:58:50 »
 :thumb:
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Offline Bunn3y

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #9 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:59:42 »
Just go to GB already, let me buy this!!!

Seriously though, this is so nice. GLWIC  :D
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Offline paulgali

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #10 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:01:10 »
Quote from: 10peaches on Sun, 28 March 2021, 05:58:25
Alps please?


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Hiney and I had a nice conversation about this. We agreed I will run MX, in the future, he will run alps. No idea what he plans colorwise but ill happily share this stuff with him, should he want it. He has no timeline for it yet.
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Offline lovidore

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #11 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:01:49 »
beige by baul is the blay

edit: form filled btw
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Offline swomi

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #12 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:02:07 »
Finally a beige dcs set  :thumb:
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Offline Omarpixel9

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #13 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:04:29 »
Nippled F and J so good, excited for this  :thumb:
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Offline RA Can

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:05:35 »
It's been a while since I wanted to try DCS but I couldn't find sets that I like, this is perfect.
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:06:02 »
Nice Baul. Form filled.
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Offline huey

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:21:28 »
blessed
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:29:26 »
good job baul!
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:33:53 »
beige baybeeeeeeee
DCS is great, this is good too (wish it wasn't icon mods but whatever)
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:34:25 »
 :thumb: always want to try DCS, glwic
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Offline ephemeral25

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 06:54:41 »
Finally a nice and simple DCS kit. I am in.

Please consider R3 pipe for the only superior ISO layout with full left shift
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Offline of_sam

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 07:45:17 »
Wonderful IC Paul. Best of luck with everything. I am in.
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 07:47:08 »
i like beige keycap. mmmmmm
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 07:48:55 »
Great to see relegendables too, nice.
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Offline Jampot_298

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 08:30:46 »
Nice. Great work Paul, keep it up! :)
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:17:53 »
Please include mod colored 1.5u pipe :'(
Literally the one key missing for an imo perfect base kit.
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:49:14 »
great job paul :thumb:
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:53:46 »
Is this ABS or PBT? Guessing ABS since you referenced F13 being made but I wanted to double check.
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:55:06 »
Cool project, but I don't understand the legend choices for shift and caps. SP DCS does have an icon caps lock that looks normal, not like that strange hybrid one you posted (see DCS Rebel/OTD Red Alert). Same goes for shift, they have legends that are more boxy like the GMK icon mods. I'm personally not a big fan of the skinny arrows you currently have rendered, they really don't look coherent with the rest of the set. Photo credit goes to LightningXI.

Excited to see someone taking a stab at this colorway in a different profile tho, will be following closely! :thumb:

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 11:00:23 »
Love the font, the philosophy, the deskmats rock as well  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 12:18:09 »
Quote from: dallman5 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:55:06
Cool project, but I don't understand the legend choices for shift and caps. SP DCS does have an icon caps lock that looks normal, not like that strange hybrid one you posted (see DCS Rebel/OTD Red Alert). Same goes for shift, they have legends that are more boxy like the GMK icon mods. I'm personally not a big fan of the skinny arrows you currently have rendered, they really don't look coherent with the rest of the set. Photo credit goes to LightningXI.

Excited to see someone taking a stab at this colorway in a different profile tho, will be following closely! :thumb:

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Thanks for articulating it better than I could.

GLWIC Paul! With these changes in legends I would be very interested.
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 14:11:38 »
Quote from: dallman5 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:55:06
Cool project, but I don't understand the legend choices for shift and caps. SP DCS does have an icon caps lock that looks normal, not like that strange hybrid one you posted (see DCS Rebel/OTD Red Alert). Same goes for shift, they have legends that are more boxy like the GMK icon mods. I'm personally not a big fan of the skinny arrows you currently have rendered, they really don't look coherent with the rest of the set. Photo credit goes to LightningXI.

Excited to see someone taking a stab at this colorway in a different profile tho, will be following closely! :thumb:

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This kind of feedback is exactly why I IC'd rather than spend time on legends that may or may not be sufficient for those true fans of DCS WYSE style caps. I'm waiting for SP to come back to me with physical samples before making changes. As for the shifts, this must be an error in the CAD on my part - duly noted, and thank you for pointing that out. CapsLock, I must have a very strange version. I'll see if I can get a super high res version of it and work some magic (rendering with WYSE sucked, any little helps!)... wait thats a tesco ad...
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 14:40:23 »
Quote from: jorj_mk on Sun, 28 March 2021, 12:18:09
Quote from: dallman5 on Sun, 28 March 2021, 10:55:06
Cool project, but I don't understand the legend choices for shift and caps. SP DCS does have an icon caps lock that looks normal, not like that strange hybrid one you posted (see DCS Rebel/OTD Red Alert). Same goes for shift, they have legends that are more boxy like the GMK icon mods. I'm personally not a big fan of the skinny arrows you currently have rendered, they really don't look coherent with the rest of the set. Photo credit goes to LightningXI.

Excited to see someone taking a stab at this colorway in a different profile tho, will be following closely! :thumb:

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Thanks for articulating it better than I could.

GLWIC Paul! With these changes in legends I would be very interested.

Check the last comment. This is actually feedback i wanted, sometimes I fkn love it when yall are like this <3
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 14:48:34 »
Quote from: paulgali on Sun, 28 March 2021, 14:40:23
Check the last comment. This is actually feedback i wanted, sometimes I fkn love it when yall are like this <3
If you end up going with those legends from the Rebel Red Alert/OTD Red Alert set please give credit to sixty from deskthority and Uranium from OTD. Those guys spent countless hours getting the right legend selection with SP.

Also, for full reference, that set came with two options for shift/tab legends. Seen here:



I'm personally a fan of the smaller, thicker shifts and the larger tab, demonstrated here:

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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 15:16:25 »
Who's Dixie?
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[IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 15:54:20 »
R0 in base. Thick shift. Not sure about that big tab. In for all kits. Also stepped Ctrl pls?
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 15:57:53 »
Wow! This looks really crisp!
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 16:03:09 »
Quote from: GarrettSucks on Sun, 28 March 2021, 15:16:25
Who's Dixie?

I'll still call you by discord name, it's old habbits. Updated to the new name :D
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 16:08:04 »
Quote from: finalarcadia on Sun, 28 March 2021, 15:54:20
R0 in base. Thick shift. Not sure about that big tab. In for all kits. Also stepped Ctrl pls?

A thick shift will come. The current tab is smaller than that on the ones found on OTD red alert. Again, once I get samples from SP, I can reconfirm and remodel where required.

Stepped control? Put it in the form so I can track, but I definitely, I'm down for that! Thank's for the support too! <3
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 16:16:04 »
I said this in the IC form but might as well say it here to see what others might think.

I would like for there to be a second numpad 5 barred variant for anyone who prefers barred over nipple. Just seems odd to me having bar and nip F + J but not 5.
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 28 March 2021, 16:16:57 »
Thank you for creating this you beautiful man.
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 29 March 2021, 14:05:10 »
looks simple and nice, glad you got perms from janglad;
glwic!
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #42 on: Wed, 31 March 2021, 00:29:07 »
Interested in getting my hands on a DCS set, and ya gotta love 9009! GLWIC! :thumb:
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 31 March 2021, 03:44:24 »
I'd better call baul.
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 31 March 2021, 04:47:28 »
SP needs some time to come back to me as I asked them for a lot of icon samples (I want to see the options I have before I make changes that I personally want). This won't be a rushed project.

Mod pipe will be added - yall are god damn thirsty for it!  :p
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 31 March 2021, 10:32:37 »
I love you for this baul
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 22 April 2021, 13:44:10 »
interest checked o.O
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 12:33:10 »
When do you release more renders, put one up on the Frog TKL!
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 19 May 2021, 12:52:20 »
Looks great. Good old beige!

That said, I'm really curious how much more expensive this would be if it were PBT. PBT DCS is a lot nicer to me than ABS DCS.
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Re: [IC] DCS 9009
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 26 May 2021, 14:46:33 »
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