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IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Round 2
 




New year, new Iron165! Prototypes are done, group buy date is set! Weíve come prepared.

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After the success of the Iron180 group buy we were left with some big questions. What do we roll out at the beginning of the year? A new Iron in a different layout, or perhaps another new series of boards entirely, but we decided a revisit to our debut board made the most sense.

The Iron180 saw many little tweaks and improvements over the original Iron165, and weíre continuing that trend of optimization again for round 2.


Timeline, Vendors, and Quantities

Group Buy Start Time

The group buy will go live on February 27th, 2021 at 10 AM EST worldwide!

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Vendors, Pricing, and Quantities

We're very proud to announce we've partnered up with CannonKeys in the US, DeskHero in Canada, MyKeyboard in the EU, and ILUMKB in the AP/China market to handle sales once again.

If you are unsure which vendor covers the country you live in, please reach out to the vendors directly to confirm.


Vendor Links

CannonKeys - North/Central/South America Vendor (excluding Canada) - About CannonKeys Raffle Queue

500 boards, region locked, CannonKeys hybrid FCFS/raffle checkout. Limit 1 per household.

$424 USD


DeskHero - Canadian Vendor

150 boards, region locked for first ten minutes.

$566 CAD



MyKeyboard EU - European Vendor

300 boards, region locked, Koi raffle system


Click here for Koi Raffle System info
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The raffle will take place here:
https://www.koi-raffle.com/

To join the raffle you need to join the Koi Raffle System Discord. The following link should be the invite, otherwise google for it: https://discord.gg/yxqVMrw
After joining the discord you need to verify yourself in the registration channel (should be the only channel you can see) to verify just press the thumbs up reaction on the bot-post in that channel like over 9k others have. After doing so you will get the verified role (your name is blue and you can access the verified channel).

Next you head to the website (koi-raffle.com) and log in with your discord account.
If you followed the steps above and are verified on the server it should work and your discord username, hash and email will be displayed at the top of the website.
To change the email you will have to change your discord email and re-log into the website.

Once the raffle starts it will be displayed on the koi-raffle website and allow you to join. The raffle will not be visible to you if you are not verified on the server!
If you win an invoice will be sent to the displayed email.

The raffle will remain open for 12 hours.



Ä424 w/VAT included


iLumkb - AP Vendor

500 boards, region locked, FCFS

$566 SGD



Iron165 Changes for Round 2

  • Deeper gasket pockets, allowing the same poron gaskets, but with less overall compression, making the case easier to assemble
  • 0.25mm top case height increase, to better hide keycaps that arenít as deep as GMK, while still maintaining the same overall switch height
  • Better, beefier, longer screws
  • Removal of cable channel
  • Revised PCB with VIA compatibility **NOT HOTSWAP**
  • Further optimized consistency aluminum plate
  • All aluminum construction
  • Many other minor tweaks to optimize machining


Iron165 Features

  • 7 Degree Typing Angle
  • Full Gasket Isolation Mount
  • Bottom Accent Plate w/exposed rune logo
  • Low-Profile Front Height (less than 17.25mm)
  • Seamless Case Design
  • QMK/VIA compatible PCB, designed in collaboration with Gondolindrim
  • Unified C3 USB-C daughterboard (centered on case)
  • Optimized plate for consistency on every key press (see analysis below)


Iron165 Colors

Each board comes with a black anodized aluminum base and contrasting aluminum accent plate and aluminum badge. Please refer to the renders for a visual depiction.

  • Midnight Teal
  • Graphite
  • Red


Addons and Extras (All prices in EUR include VAT)

  • Extra PCB w/daughterboard and JST cable - $60 USD / Ä60 EUR / $80 CAD / $79 SGD
  • Extra Aluminum Plate - $40 USD / Ä40 EUR / $53 CAD / $53 SGD
  • Forged Carbon Plate - $50 USD / Ä50 EUR / $67 CAD / $66 SGD
  • Stainless Steel (mirror polished) Weight and Badge Set - $175 USD / Ä175 EUR / $232 CAD / $235 SGD
  • Copper Weight and Badge Set - $100 USD / Ä100 EUR / $133 CAD / $135 SGD
  • Brass Weight and Badge Set - $90 USD / Ä90 EUR / $119 CAD / $120 SGD

Additional Information

- Badges and weights will only be sold as addon sets to simply order fulfillment across all vendors due to the increased quantities offered. We're planning to order many extra badges for the online store though for those original Iron165 owners who'd like a new and different badge.

- We are adding a small pocket to make it compatible with other JST 65% PCBs on the market. This should help ensure that even if we run out of stock on PCBs that a suitable replacement can be found in a pinch.


Supported Layouts

There will be three plate layout options, semi-fixed. All plates support split backspace and stepped caps. ISO plates may not be available from all vendors.

  • Tsangan (7u bottom row)
  • ANSI (6.25u bottom row)
  • ISO




What's In The Box

  • Iron165 Keyboard
  • Aluminum Plate
  • PCB, USB-C Daughterboard, and JST cable
  • Gaskets and all mounting hardware
  • Iron165 custom carrying case


Optimized Plate, the Process, and FEA analysis

More

Keyboard plate FEA analysis was needed to measure deflection and try to achieve a uniform plate deflection distribution across the keyboard. You can read more about our process and testing methodology in the original Iron165 IC.

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101470.0



FAQ


Wait! Whereís the Iron265!?!?!

While we did make a bunch of optimizations to the Iron165, we didnít feel it warranted a full version bump. The naming convention we follow is series name + version number + layout.

Okay, cool, itís a 165 and not a 265, but how will be tell them apart?

Visually this should be quite easy, especially because this one is not the SE (special edition) version, which means no giant through-hole weight, but an entirely differently designed bottom accent.

Gotcha, so this is just Iron165, not Iron165 SE, and kinda like the Iron180 with no designation after it?

Yep, you got it :)

So this doesnít have a crazy amount of brass like the SE, so will this be less expensive?

Thatís the hope! We donít have any pricing info yet, so we canít really talk about it as a new, affordable Iron, but thatís the goal.

SE, FE, no designation, Iím still a bit confused.

The goal is that long-term our naming system will scale as more boards get released. Currently a board with no designation is representative of the standard version of that board. Weíve reworked this a bit since our first release where we referred to the SE as the standard edition, which in hindsight didnít make much sense. Weíve since decided to repurpose SE to mean a special edition. In the case of the Iron165 SE, that meant a liberal use of brass throughout.

Why not just use the round number in the naming convention?

At first glance, this seems like a great solution until it isnít. What I mean by that is it might not mean much. Letís say we run the 165 in the future but nothing changes and no improvements were made, and then a year later we run it again with some improvements. It would become very confusing to track changes across multiple runs.

Sounds good! But where is the PC!?! Iíve seen pics! Iíve seen leaks!

The Iron165 PC will be released as an in-stock board later in the year and will be much more limited in number. More info on this board coming soon.

I have a question about something that isnít covered here!

Make sure to check out the original Iron165 IC here: https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=101470.0

Or shoot us an email, visit our instagram, or join our Discord. Links are at the top.


Interest Check Disclaimer

Keep in mind this is an interest check. Nothing, including options, pricing, etc, is final until the GB starts. This IC represents the most correct, up-to-date information we have regarding the Iron165 at this time. Some things may change.

We will be announcing any changes, if any, here first, and on Discord as well.


Renders




















Prototypes

Proof of concept, please refer to the renders for colors offered in this round


















Addon Weight and Badge Set Prototypes








Special Thanks

  • LBaron, the other half of Smith + Rune!
  • Mods, admins, and of course, the Inner Circle, best team ever!
  • The entire Smith + Rune community, a bright light in a sometimes very dark world
  • Everyone who has supported us this far. We couldn't have got to this point without you!
« Last Edit: Fri, 26 February 2021, 11:19:31 by voxkey »

Offline yoniwolf1202

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:01:48 »
Ayyy

Offline ThePanduuh

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:01:53 »
FirstSecond, heck yeah!
Edit after reading through: Looks like some great improvement over R1! The screws were already much beefier than most boards I've built, and the deeper gasket pocket for less compression sounds like a helpful assembly bit.
« Last Edit: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:06:12 by ThePanduuh »
Iron 165 SE | KBD8x MKII | Cypher

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:02:04 »
rr

Offline Draxion

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:02:14 »
Gib me

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:02:18 »
BIG NUT

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:02:23 »
Well these colors are dope... damn just got the iron180... now i gotta get this too? RIP wallet... in stock PC tho???? oh yeaaaaaa
« Last Edit: Thu, 04 February 2021, 20:27:05 by 7empest »

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« Reply #7 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:03:04 »
This is pog
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:03:12 »
Just need it! Glad there are more options but also really wish the original plum color can come back someday.

Offline Demagine

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:03:37 »
RNGesus please bless me this once

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:04:06 »
gib

Offline Ireojimayo

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:04:14 »
Super Excited for this, hope you consider Deskhero as a vendor again, like with Iron 180

Offline kuro0renji

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:04:18 »
Take my money!

Offline keebnewb

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:04:38 »
Red good  ;D

Offline Ihso

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:04:44 »
My body is ready

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« Reply #15 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:05:13 »
GOTTA STRIKE WHILE THE IRON IS HOT
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:05:31 »

jesus christ

also HYPE!!!!

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« Reply #17 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:06:29 »
Wooooo!

Offline misswaffle

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:06:43 »
Yes please

Offline SxM Designs

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:08:08 »
This time I need one for sure!

Offline IOVERCALLHISTIOCYTES

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:08:18 »
ready to take an L

Offline aaronlau

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« Reply #21 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:08:45 »
In. Will complete the "Holy Trinity" of my collection.

Offline dRnRcRr

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:09:16 »
Let's go round 2

Offline voxkey

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:09:40 »
Colors haven't been decided yet. These are just prototypes we had made to confirm the changes.

When we get closer to deciding on colors, we'll have them rendered and get anodizing samples.

Stay tuned! :)

Offline DeMechanica

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:10:04 »
Be still, my beating heart

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:10:14 »
I want. Give now.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:10:49 »
time to not win :)

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« Reply #27 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:11:00 »
Cool!
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:11:30 »
yes please

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« Reply #29 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:11:47 »
I've been waiting so long

Offline ligongduck

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« Reply #30 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:12:28 »
Here we go!

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:12:45 »
Yo

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:13:57 »
٩(◕‿◕)۶ yay
   

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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:15:03 »
Waiting...


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« Reply #34 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:17:23 »
can't wait to take the L on e-white or plum <3

Offline Zach

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:18:00 »
dope
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:21:15 »
Tfw it's not called 265

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« Reply #37 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:22:20 »
ResidentSleeper

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:23:01 »
I am viewing with a reasonable level of intent. I'm kidding. Prepping for the L

Offline ServedWithRice

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:24:56 »
Beyond Interested!! Been waiting for R2 for more than a year after missing the extras. Not a huge fan of the red, wouldn't mind  e-white.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:29:01 »
I shouldn't be looking for another board but.....

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:31:35 »
Putting past the potato quality images, surely there were enough effort to realise the boards aren't even centered in the photos right?

Seems like an oversight for something that people consider 'high-end'

Offline Vaiur

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:36:21 »
Must buy.

Offline baccaan

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:36:47 »
Here we go again. Still have PTSD from the 180 drop last year.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:38:09 »
Nice board, can't wait!

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:42:12 »
 :thumb:

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:50:23 »
In!

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:52:28 »
Hope you guys include deskhero for the group buy once again!

Offline reaLFX

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune, Back for Round 2!
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:55:55 »
hotswap option plz

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« Reply #49 on: Mon, 01 February 2021, 17:59:50 »