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Reviews / Chicony KB-5981 review REDUX (SMK 2nd gen "Monterey")
« Last post by chyros on Sat, 16 December 2017, 06:57:39 »
Revisiting an old favourite, hope you enjoy the video :) .

Off Topic / Re: The last person to post in this thread wins!
« Last post by microsoft windows on Sat, 16 December 2017, 06:52:09 »

Interest Checks / Re: [IC] The DO60 PCB - update 2017 DEC 11
« Last post by apaskal on Sat, 16 December 2017, 06:38:27 »
Any chance to get minila similar 3u spacebar? 4u suitable as well :)
Ergonomics / Re: Evaluating keyboard layouts with word-based metrics
« Last post by stevep on Sat, 16 December 2017, 06:36:20 »
Thanks for taking a look at the angle mod and producing those extra results!

I realize this is a tricky topic because the horrible mess of 150 years of bad keyboard design. Yes, you are right in that "home block" moves over to cover the (qwerty) keys ZXC instead of XCV. Obviously this means hitting these physical keys with different fingers than the "traditional" method. The problem with this though, is it messes up things if you use a modern layout like Colemak, which has been designed to avoid same-finger bigrams. The solution is that the users of the "Angle Mod" move their left-hand bottom keys one space to the left, which means they're still typed with the same finger as before, but just using a more comfortable, near-symmetric technique. This results in the "home block" reverting back to containing XCV (for users of default Colemak/Qwerty), but using a comfortable technique - which scoring systems often fail to account for.

What I like about the "home block" concept, is it recognises that it's easier for the fingers to move up and down to the top/bottom rows, rather than the whole handing moving laterally to reach the centre-column (e.g. Qwerty G and H). This is why, in Colemak Mod-DH, you end up with D and H in your home block, at a cost of losing V and M. This is better since D/H are much more frequent. It would be interesting to see what results you get for that! I'm not convinced about including the ring finger top/bottom keys though, to me that's quite a weak finger.

Yes, the Angle Mod it is a bit of a kludge to deal with the poor design of ANSI/ISO, but actually, it does fix most of the problem with the stagger. The middle and bottom rows are basically fixed, and become comfortably symmetrically staggered. The hands naturally come at the keyboard obliquely, so what is ideal would be either symmetrically staggered board, or a split-matrix board where you could angle the two halves separately.

The main remaining annoyance that the angle mod can't solve is the offset to the top row, but at least this is only key and so bearable. If it is a pig with lipstick on, then it is a very attractive pig!  :eek:

Great Finds / Re: '05 Unicomp Classic 101 w/IBM-quality legends, $49.99 shipped
« Last post by E TwentyNine on Sat, 16 December 2017, 06:25:34 »
They didn't "get a request to make close to Lexmark", they literally bought the licensing and tooling from Lexmark twenty years ago.

Legend alignment is worse today, but that's just a question of the machinery wearing down or their quality control declining.

The font on the second one is a little weird though.  The single quote is usually straight, even on recent boards, but they do have ones curved on some boards.   Wonder if they're running different lines with some font variations.  It's all sloppier either way today, it's very apparent with their APL offering.
Keyboard Keycaps / Re: Are There Keycaps Like This?
« Last post by Coreda on Sat, 16 December 2017, 06:25:11 »
I feel like I've seen keycaps like those before (with the lip around the concave inner shape, possibly not with such a rounded radius) but don't seem to have saved it in my KB images directory. There are of course the vaguely similar but different Apple 'Cassie' prototype board and the one mentioned earlier though.
Making Stuff Together! / Re: Gaming keypad
« Last post by Coreda on Sat, 16 December 2017, 06:14:50 »
Looks like something that wouldn't be out of place in Half-Life 2 :thumb:

The multi-directional finger buttons remind me of the Datahand.
geekhack Media / Re: Keycap & Keyboard Photography
« Last post by Crushader on Sat, 16 December 2017, 06:07:06 »

geekhack Media / Re: Post your Nightcaps!
« Last post by Myan on Sat, 16 December 2017, 05:59:18 »

Making Stuff Together! / Re: Gaming keypad
« Last post by menuhin on Sat, 16 December 2017, 05:57:48 »

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