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Off Topic / Re: The 2025 Republican Wealth Bill is Much Worse Than 2017
« Last post by tp4tissue on Sun, 06 July 2025, 17:28:11 »
It's just something I couldn't knowingly do with the state of affairs in the world. especially now

This is something that breaks my heart anew every time I hear it, which has been for years and at a constantly increasing rate.

From my perspective, it is exactly the type of people who say that who would probably make the best parents - people who would raise thinking caring children who would endeavor to keep our world from destroying itself.


Only a very small percentage of humans are even intelligent, and they can only achieve a high-level of empathy GIVEN enormous energy surplus traded towards exposure to education, ontop of serendipitous connection to positive ecological training.

This is likely NOT in the cards for the future.  We're headed into gigafamines, peasantry, hoarding of salt, and a nu(lr wasteland from melted down fuel pools.

All of this is 100% locked in, because the energy economy is contracting rapidly.

People in America tends to think, when is the "collapse" going to happen "TO ME."  When it's already happened to many other countries, Much of Africa, Large swaths of India/ Middle east.

We're knee-deep in collapse.


Look at what the average human is exposed to through Capitalism,  make money, so you can buy skins, and the person with the most skins is considered the winner, of what, of having the most skins.

This is fundamentally the entirety of our culture, house-> bigger house (the skin), clothing-> more clothing (skins), food-> rare food (skins).


The vast majority of humans, perhaps, we can say they're intelligent, but they are certainly NOT WISE.  They are basic as hell, and follow a set of simple instincts.  Buy skins, attract mate, mate, die.

We were never designed to think in 100-1000 year terms.

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Off Topic / Re: The 2025 Republican Wealth Bill is Much Worse Than 2017
« Last post by fohat.digs on Sun, 06 July 2025, 17:23:33 »
It's just something I couldn't knowingly do with the state of affairs in the world. especially now

This is something that breaks my heart anew every time I hear it, which has been for years and at a constantly increasing rate.

From my perspective, it is exactly the type of people who say that who would probably make the best parents - people who would raise thinking caring children who would endeavor to keep our world from destroying itself.
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Off Topic / Re: The 2025 Republican Wealth Bill is Much Worse Than 2017
« Last post by Rob27shred on Sun, 06 July 2025, 16:22:11 »
for me to ever want to have kids & sentence my lineage to what may be

My kids are the greatest part of my life and I could hardly imagine them not existing. We (too) often talk about the state of the world and the future, yet they (unlike many members of younger generations) don't "blame" those of us who came before, ie the last few hundreds of generations of their ancestors - but most especially their parents - for the accumulating cataclysm of **** that is crashing down around us.

They accept that everyone has to play the cards that they are dealt, and that there is more beauty and awesomeness in the world than anyone can experience in a lifetime - so it is up to them to seek out beauty and inspiration rather than wallow in self-pity.

I have asked them, very specifically, "Do you think that we did the right thing in bringing you into the world?" and they were very enthusiastically glad to exist, even though they have certainly had their low places.

 
I went to school with a kid who's dad was the head coach of our HS football team.


It is quite amusing but sad for me to listen to the kerfuffle of Drumpf's war, absolute obsession of fury, against Harvard University (specifically), with hardly any of the news outlets providing the simple background.

Harvard turned Baron Trump down for admission - this is all just a ludicrous temper tantrum for revenge.

On your first point, I am very glad to hear you & your kids think of it that way. You're not wrong, just to me I feel like we might see the break of our current civilization in our lifetime let alone our children's. After having a pregnancy scare with an ex GF years ago I came to the conclusion kids are not something I want to actively pursue after having a very long think about things. If it were to happen I'd for sure love them & care for them the best I could, also I'm sure I'd be very happy & proud of having them in my life. It's just something I couldn't knowingly do with the state of affairs in the world. especially now compared to then. On your second point I agree 100% it's the anthropomorphic orange's way of revenge since they turned him down. I really don't think that thing has any boundaries & scares the living **** out of me. You can tell he's just itching to spark off some crazy war so he play with the shiny toys before he misses that opportunity. At least that's how I think he is thinking about the military. 
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Off Topic / Re: The 2025 Republican Wealth Bill is Much Worse Than 2017
« Last post by fohat.digs on Sun, 06 July 2025, 13:54:33 »
they know these kids applied to almost every big league school

entitled people screaming

How many other schools did Baron apply to?

My guess that both sides were all in on the Kabuki theater.

Drumph was in it exclusively for the bragging rights (although I think that Baron might have gone there just for the raw "prestige" of it).

My guess is that Harvard admissions might have wanted to "thumb its nose" at that repugnant buffoon.
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Off Topic / Re: The Actions of the Muskrat warrant its own dedicated thread.
« Last post by Leslieann on Sun, 06 July 2025, 13:23:03 »
How about his new endeavor in auto-flagellation with starting his own political party?

Since he is wildly popular, no doubt people will flock to join it.
Considering how fed up people are with the current two party system and the lies, I suspect he may do better than you think.

Honestly, I wish him the best because we need a 3rd party, but also his party will certainly rob more from one party than the other.
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Off Topic / Re: The 2025 Republican Wealth Bill is Much Worse Than 2017
« Last post by Leslieann on Sun, 06 July 2025, 13:21:12 »
Harvard turned Baron Trump down for admission - this is all just a ludicrous temper tantrum for revenge.

A lot of big schools turn down people who should easily get in (or have connections) and the reason is they know these kids applied to almost every big league school they could and they don't want to accept them only to have the kid flake on them and not show up, robbing someone else of a spot. That's why we have a lot of entitled people screaming "racism" and "DEI" because they feel they were more qualified and yet didn't.

How many other schools did Baron apply to? He can only attend one.
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Off Topic / Re: dey'gon'git'Drumph'dis'tine'o'no?
« Last post by tp4tissue on Sun, 06 July 2025, 12:22:58 »
The lining their pockets, is not the point.

America is trying to print $ without saying we're printing $.

That's what this entire new crypto push is. This is our only opportunity to stabilize the financial system. By inflating our way out of the insurmountable debt.

At best this gets us 10 years or so.  And then we will face the financial failure of a major $dollar debt country,  and then it all blows up.
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Off Topic / Re: The 2025 Republican Wealth Bill is Much Worse Than 2017
« Last post by tp4tissue on Sun, 06 July 2025, 12:15:57 »
This is what "Exxon Mobile" expects.

No bull****, we're screwed.   That entire top area is Imaginary, and they're already downplaying how dire it's going to be.

Everything you know will simply stop working.    There is no substitute for OIL.

Absent a miracle in something like Thorium reactors, critical components of which have NOT been invented, and has 0$$$ investment. ONLY CHINA is a serious player in even researching it. 

Enjoy the last 20 years of 700watt gaming PCs. 


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Off Topic / Re: The Actions of the Muskrat warrant its own dedicated thread.
« Last post by fohat.digs on Sun, 06 July 2025, 12:09:47 »
How about his new endeavor in auto-flagellation with starting his own political party?

Since he is wildly popular, no doubt people will flock to join it.

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Off Topic / Re: The 2025 Republican Wealth Bill is Much Worse Than 2017
« Last post by tp4tissue on Sun, 06 July 2025, 12:02:25 »
I have asked them, very specifically, "Do you think that we did the right thing in bringing you into the world?" and they were very enthusiastically glad to exist, even though they have certainly had their low places.

Of course, THEY'RE glad, this is the absolute BEST TIME to be alive, especially in America.

With very little actual labor,  we get to eat food, and heck go on vacation 2 weeks a year.  Oh you can splitter splatter on a keyboard and money just comes out?, whaaaaa....   Ask anyone in the last 10,000 years, how many people were able to not break a literal sweat and get "fed" by society.

There is no doubt this IS the best time to be alive. 

Tp4's point is, this time is very short.  And it's about to end CATASTROPHICALLY.


Below is world energy use, Peak oil is around 2018, we're past it.  The yellow line is the rough expectation.

The Graph Left bottom is your typical mining depletion graph, and the bottom right is the exponential increase in COST, you go from cheap easily mine-able material, to increasingly more and more difficult to amortize plays.

We've exhausted all of the easy to get oil, we're down to the last drop of economically feasible (EROI) of oil. This is also the case with MANY critical minerals.

That is to say, what's happening, is that, EVEN IF there is more stuff in the ground, it's NOT in a condition (low concentration) that it would be POSITIVE economically to GET IT.

For example, we used to be able to find giant Nuggets of Copper just like nuggets of GOLD,  NOW, we have to grind up entire mountains of copper ore, to get copper.

You would spend MORE ENERGY to get the difficult-Oil than that oil is worth.  The knock on effect of energy pricing across ALL markets is Armageddon relative to what a person might expect "Life To Be Like."


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