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Mini USB
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Offline tex_live_utility

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #100 on: Wed, 17 April 2019, 23:57:10 »
Torn between Cerakote and raw white UHMW :-\

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #101 on: Thu, 18 April 2019, 22:54:25 »
Iím in. Looks great!

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #102 on: Fri, 19 April 2019, 08:32:09 »
Interested, especially in the cerakote option.  Looking forward to seeing some prototypes.

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #103 on: Fri, 19 April 2019, 11:34:41 »
That pcb looks dope, but iirc transparent/translucent pcbs are pretty expensive to make. Not worth the extra price imo. Would rather either a white or black pcb with visible copper traces

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #104 on: Fri, 19 April 2019, 15:02:51 »
Would love to have USB - C and no branding. It will look sexy in white.
I'm down for this.

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #105 on: Sat, 20 April 2019, 14:13:27 »
Cerakote guy is experimenting with a bunch of UHMW I sent him. Heís in NorCal too, so I can arrange for Cerakote pretty easily before the prototypes are in the hands of testers.
I plan on doing some gnarly stuff to one as well, just for my own purposes. Nothing nefarious...

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #106 on: Sun, 21 April 2019, 02:45:08 »
I'm interested in it,but why don't supply a metal option?I think it will be  welcomed :))

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #107 on: Sun, 21 April 2019, 03:40:15 »
I'm interested in it,but why don't supply a metal option?I think it will be  welcomed :))

If I offer a metal option, it will be because it offers something different than the original or different from what anyone else is already doing/has done.
For instance, a damascus steel case Alice, or a magnesium alloy Alice, or a titanium/carbon fiber Alice, or a vibranium & adamantium Alice.
I may still do all of those, if I can get the pricing down. If you know a way I can do it, please let me know.

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #108 on: Sun, 21 April 2019, 05:41:55 »
im down for a raw vibranium alice  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #109 on: Sun, 21 April 2019, 08:38:25 »
I'm interested in it,but why don't supply a metal option?I think it will be  welcomed :))

If I offer a metal option, it will be because it offers something different than the original or different from what anyone else is already doing/has done.
For instance, a damascus steel case Alice, or a magnesium alloy Alice, or a titanium/carbon fiber Alice, or a vibranium & adamantium Alice.
I may still do all of those, if I can get the pricing down. If you know a way I can do it, please let me know.

Varmillo did a magnesium case on the VA68MG. Iím pretty sure it was cast rather than CNCd and there was a YouTube video that showed how they did it.

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #110 on: Sun, 21 April 2019, 09:31:28 »
I'm interested in it,but why don't supply a metal option?I think it will be  welcomed :))

If I offer a metal option, it will be because it offers something different than the original or different from what anyone else is already doing/has done.
For instance, a damascus steel case Alice, or a magnesium alloy Alice, or a titanium/carbon fiber Alice, or a vibranium & adamantium Alice.
I may still do all of those, if I can get the pricing down. If you know a way I can do it, please let me know.

Varmillo did a magnesium case on the VA68MG. Iím pretty sure it was cast rather than CNCd and there was a YouTube video that showed how they did it.

Yeah I think I also remember them saying they would never do magnesium again bc the failure rate was astonishingly high
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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #111 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 04:57:23 »
I'm interested in it,but why don't supply a metal option?I think it will be  welcomed :))

If I offer a metal option, it will be because it offers something different than the original or different from what anyone else is already doing/has done.
For instance, a damascus steel case Alice, or a magnesium alloy Alice, or a titanium/carbon fiber Alice, or a vibranium & adamantium Alice.
I may still do all of those, if I can get the pricing down. If you know a way I can do it, please let me know.

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #112 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 14:51:54 »
I'm interested in it,but why don't supply a metal option?I think it will be  welcomed :))

If I offer a metal option, it will be because it offers something different than the original or different from what anyone else is already doing/has done.
For instance, a damascus steel case Alice, or a magnesium alloy Alice, or a titanium/carbon fiber Alice, or a vibranium & adamantium Alice.
I may still do all of those, if I can get the pricing down. If you know a way I can do it, please let me know.

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #113 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 15:41:00 »
I'm interested in it,but why don't supply a metal option?I think it will be  welcomed :))

If I offer a metal option, it will be because it offers something different than the original or different from what anyone else is already doing/has done.
For instance, a damascus steel case Alice, or a magnesium alloy Alice, or a titanium/carbon fiber Alice, or a vibranium & adamantium Alice.
I may still do all of those, if I can get the pricing down. If you know a way I can do it, please let me know.

I know you are being partly facetious, but maybe stuff like UHMW bottom, alu top will be interesting for future GBs. Since the bottom is usually a big slab/wedge it might be the "best of both worlds" for sound without being subject to warping like a top piece might be.

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #114 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 16:45:11 »
I'm interested in it,but why don't supply a metal option?I think it will be  welcomed :))

If I offer a metal option, it will be because it offers something different than the original or different from what anyone else is already doing/has done.
For instance, a damascus steel case Alice, or a magnesium alloy Alice, or a titanium/carbon fiber Alice, or a vibranium & adamantium Alice.
I may still do all of those, if I can get the pricing down. If you know a way I can do it, please let me know.

I know you are being partly facetious, but maybe stuff like UHMW bottom, alu top will be interesting for future GBs. Since the bottom is usually a big slab/wedge it might be the "best of both worlds" for sound without being subject to warping like a top piece might be.

this would be cool

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #115 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 18:13:48 »
Cerakote guy is experimenting with a bunch of UHMW I sent him. Heís in NorCal too, so I can arrange for Cerakote pretty easily before the prototypes are in the hands of testers.
I plan on doing some gnarly stuff to one as well, just for my own purposes. Nothing nefarious...

Will it be Tyson that's working on the cerakoting? He's done quite a lot of work for the keyboard community regarding cerakoting.
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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #116 on: Mon, 22 April 2019, 21:39:05 »
Cerakote guy is experimenting with a bunch of UHMW I sent him. Heís in NorCal too, so I can arrange for Cerakote pretty easily before the prototypes are in the hands of testers.
I plan on doing some gnarly stuff to one as well, just for my own purposes. Nothing nefarious...

Will it be Tyson that's working on the cerakoting? He's done quite a lot of work for the keyboard community regarding cerakoting.

Tyson stopped. Tyson is also in TX not norcal.
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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #117 on: Tue, 23 April 2019, 14:40:57 »
I know you are being partly facetious, but maybe stuff like UHMW bottom, alu top will be interesting for future GBs. Since the bottom is usually a big slab/wedge it might be the "best of both worlds" for sound without being subject to warping like a top piece might be.
Youíre absolutely right. Only partly facetious. I have considers doing the aluminum top and Iím still considering it.
A Damascus billet in the size of a weight is actually not as crazy expensive as it would seem if you just go with a random pattern from the supplier/forge. And itís stainless so...

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #118 on: Tue, 23 April 2019, 20:38:39 »
I'm in.
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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #119 on: Tue, 23 April 2019, 20:48:12 »
Youíre absolutely right. Only partly facetious. I have considers doing the aluminum top and Iím still considering it.
A Damascus billet in the size of a weight is actually not as crazy expensive as it would seem if you just go with a random pattern from the supplier/forge. And itís stainless so...

A Damascus billet weight would be a great add on!

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #120 on: Wed, 24 April 2019, 17:50:02 »
Youíre absolutely right. Only partly facetious. I have considers doing the aluminum top and Iím still considering it.
A Damascus billet in the size of a weight is actually not as crazy expensive as it would seem if you just go with a random pattern from the supplier/forge. And itís stainless so...

A Damascus billet weight would be a great add on!

Would be nice to get some Mokuti versions as well

Offline SleepIsAllINeed

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #121 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 19:20:19 »
Hoping to see some pictures of the prototypes soon  :)

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #122 on: Sun, 28 April 2019, 20:09:58 »
oh ****, I like this idea
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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #123 on: Mon, 29 April 2019, 02:39:38 »
So stuff has slowed down.
I've got offers from manufacturers saying they can make the case, but I've asked for proof in the form of a 13" x 5" 6 degree wedge CNC'd from UHMW to prove it.
No ETA on prototypes att, but I am asking for a raw aluminum one to mix and match tops/bottoms to check fit, tolerances, sound, and overall sturdiness.
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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice
« Reply #124 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 12:27:17 »
KK. So here it as simple as possible--please reply with either a "1" or "2" from the following options:

1) Go with polycarbonate for now.

I found a manufacturer than can get close to Singa PC quality.
PCBs are locked down and ready to go.
Plates are quick and easy.
If we go this route, I start a PC Alice GB immediately and the projected price is much lower than UHMW.

*I'll use the funds from this GB to immediately purchase the necessary equipment to make a nitrogen infusion injection molding setup to manufacturer the UHMW cases myself or at least pay for the initial tooling and mold costs for a US-based factory to do it. Either way, I will be hands on with the production.

2) Wait it out.

This is what I've been doing so far. Hoping a manufacturer actually puts out a good product after I pay them for prototypes.
This option is likely only feasible for the next month or so, as I'm paying out of pocket for all this and holding on to the money of a couple early backers.
The current factory may actually produce something, but I haven't heard back in a couple weeks.
Three other offers have said their engineers can do it, but no one has shown proof with what I asked (13" x 5" x 6 degree CNC'd UHMW wedge).

Please reply 1 or 2

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #125 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 12:29:06 »
KK. So here it as simple as possible--please reply with either a "1" or "2" from the following options:

1) Go with polycarbonate for now.

I found a manufacturer than can get close to Singa PC quality.
PCBs are locked down and ready to go.
Plates are quick and easy.
If we go this route, I start a PC Alice GB immediately and the projected price is much lower than UHMW.

*I'll use the funds from this GB to immediately purchase the necessary equipment to make a nitrogen infusion injection molding setup to manufacturer the UHMW cases myself or at least pay for the initial tooling and mold costs for a US-based factory to do it. Either way, I will be hands on with the production.

2) Wait it out.

This is what I've been doing so far. Hoping a manufacturer actually puts out a good product after I pay them for prototypes.
This option is likely only feasible for the next month or so, as I'm paying out of pocket for all this and holding on to the money of a couple early backers.
The current factory may actually produce something, but I haven't heard back in a couple weeks.
Three other offers have said their engineers can do it, but no one has shown proof with what I asked (13" x 5" x 6 degree CNC'd UHMW wedge).

Please reply 1 or 2

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #126 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 12:29:07 »
2

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #127 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 12:29:55 »
1

If you are planning to use the funds from PC GB to buy equipment to do UHMW yourself, I say go for it. You can always do a UHMW GB later. There will be demand for both.

Additionally, it doesnt sound like the manufacturers you've spoken to have the level of confidence you do. I'd rather have you behind the helm for UHMW because of this.

If you do go with option 1, I assume you'd make the Irma yourself as well, correct?

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #128 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 12:30:48 »
2

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My vote is not 1.
« Reply #129 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 12:31:54 »
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« Reply #130 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 12:32:15 »
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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #131 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 12:33:14 »
1

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #132 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 12:42:18 »
Both, do a polycarb run now. Then when the time comes do a run with the other material.

Right now I would go with 1, because of the uncertainty of the material for me.

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #133 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 12:43:25 »
2


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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #134 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 12:43:52 »
1

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #135 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 12:53:00 »
2

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #136 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 13:09:19 »
Ah this is a hard choice....but I would like to choose "1"

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #137 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 13:11:46 »
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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #138 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 13:21:09 »
1

If you're really planning to use the money for the molding then it's by far the best option. Number 2 might end up nowhere.

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #139 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 13:22:58 »
1

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #140 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 13:23:29 »
2

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #141 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 13:28:26 »
1 if it helps to get to 2 quicker. But preferably 2.

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #142 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 13:34:59 »
Your initial idea is way cooler and it's what you want so you should probably run that down until you feel like it's just not realistic before going for 1. However, I was never personally much of a prospect buyer here - however if you go with option 1, I might be, because the price will actually be something that interests me.

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #143 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 13:37:09 »
1 polycarbonate is dope

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #144 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 13:42:21 »
1

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #145 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 14:02:50 »
1

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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #146 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 14:12:17 »
1

i'll probably have to pass if you run one soon cause i'm out of cash but i think this is the better option at the moment
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« Reply #147 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 14:13:46 »
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Re: [IC] Plastic Alice (CRITICAL UPDATE - Need Your Input)
« Reply #148 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 14:17:26 »
1.  I think you have some momentum going.  2 seems like a stall that could halt greater accomplishments
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« Reply #149 on: Sat, 04 May 2019, 14:20:06 »
1 unless 2 gets somewhere quickly. It also would ptobably be better in the longrun to just procure funds and equipment for the UHMW molding first.