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Offline RaySasQuach

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[IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style「Almost in Group Buy hopefully」
« on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 04:29:43 »
Hello everybody, this probably came as a surprise.

Well, this interest check is probably way long overdue. I wanted to iron out new things like mouse mat art and more renders and whatnot before posting this, but with how difficult things has been financially and mentally for me and everyone else as of late. I figured at this rate that the group buy would never happen if I just waited on everything. But here it is, it exists and it will happen. This set originally ran at November 2018 and it barely made it the first time, and the colors will be the same as last time, but there will be a few changes to the kits. Note I do not have a definitive group buy date yet, but I'm thinking of somewhere after the whole quarantine ends involving the pandemic happening at the moment for sure.

Just a few things off the bat, yes the base kit has changed, but not too drastically I feel. The biggest change is the base kit is icon mods only and they are gonna use old icon mods. The kits are still subject to changes and additions, after all this is an interest check. I did originally plan to use Dixie Mods, but I kinda had a change of heart since I think for this particular set at least it fits better the more I thought about it and looked at it aaaaand the fact that MacSurfy did the renders in old icon mods.

Update April 28, 2020
Kono has been cooperating with me to try to settle the issue and try to get everything ironed out for this group buy. Kono has been taking steps to try to make up for the mistakes they made for me and the community. Kono will post an apology statement shortly.

Colors:
Pantone 656C
Pantone 5425C
GMK's TU4 (I'll update when I remember the actual Pantone they used)

I still don't exactly have many render images, but I do have the kits and a few of my photos of the set IRL.

All of the kits below (subject to minor changes):
Base Kit
This kit should cover all of the basic kits in question.


Hiragana Kit
This is an alphas kit with mono hiragana legends, comes with an extra こ for Alice and an extra 1.75u shift and tab for extra versatility. That extra こ was totally not forgotten and photoshopped in last minute, but it will be in the final kit.


Spacebar Kit
Just some good ol' extra spacebars for accents or split spacebars. Extra B for Alice Users.


Obscure Kits
For everything 40% mainly, but may cover other weird stuff.


Pics or renders:
MacSurfy's Renders


M0LLY


J-02



Iron165


910


Aanzee


HB60


Doppelgänger


Candybar

From the original run:
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Render of Alice by Janglad



Pics by me (yeah not the best photographer)



Beautiful pic by Otanishock

Amazing pic from Emir


Will update more pics when they come.

Planned Vendors:
NA: Kono
Asia: Ilumkb
AU: Daily Clack
EU: The Prototypist

Possible questions:
Collabs?
Nothing at the moment concrete, but maaaybe you might see some custom switch or cable. Again, nothing concrete. Mouse mat art when/if I find an artist that I find suitable for the job and when I can afford it.

Why no text+icon like in R1?
While I still think Shoko looks nice with text+icon, I think icon only fits the colorway and theme more and should be the default. If there is enough demand for it, it may make its way as a separate kit. Same could be said about any type of mod kits really, including Dixie mods, Micons, or even Apple mods, but the OG icon mods will stay default and I will stay firm about that one at least.

Can I suggest something?
NO YOU CAN'T. Yeah of course you can, everything is subject to change.

Sublegends?
Nope, I think they feel too busy with a keyset like this.

Katakana?
Maybe for a 3rd Style instead, I definitely don't want to offer too many kits.

Why 2nd Style?
It's just a reference to how beatmania IIDX, sister franchise of Pop'n Music, named their versions. I would've done how Pop'n Music done it, but GMK Shoko 2 sounds boring compared to GMK Shoko 2nd Style. So that's how it's gonna stay.

Why is it named Shoko?
Copypasta from R1 IC
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Why Shoko? Who in the world is Shoko?
Shoko Aoi is my Discord alias as well as a character in a Japanese rhythm game called "Pop'n Music" and she's my favorite girl, but the colors kinda strayed a bit away from the original concept sorta (honestly the original colors were really bad, soooooo yeah had to change it), but the colors are somewhat like her Pop'n Music Sunny Park's clothing colors, which I think looks nice (but she's my favorite so clear bias). Tho crazy me still wanted a bit of that teal in there, so the accents became teal since that's her hair color (I wish I had something for her green eyes though :().

I know it's disappointing that nothing has been completely ironed out yet, but I do want feedback from the community right now and I want to see this set happen again for sure.
P.S. If there are some glaring grammatical issues or if anything is missing, please let me know ASAP because I made this IC late at night.

Special thanks:
MacSurfy for the kit renders
Kono for making me realize there's interest in a R2
The community for the positive feedback in the colorway
Emir for making me rethink about what mods I use and make me stick to my guts
Janglad for the R1 renders
Rensuya and Jae for kit feedback
DJ Gokkun for getting me into this money pithole hobby... thanks...

Timeline:
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  • April 7, 2020: Initial IC
  • April 9th, 2020:
    Okay just a minor update on the group buy on Kono, I am legitimately just as confused as everyone is at the moment. No one even notified me that the group buy will happen at the time it did, and as far as I'm aware Kono didn't notify the other vendors either. I'm fairly upset that the group buy launched in the state it did, because I still feel like the kits aren't fully complete and one kit is completely missing from the group buy too. I've been told they'll allow the Hiragana kit in R3/3rd Style, but I'm really shocked that it wasn't even in the group buy right now, because it was something proposed very early on along with all of the other kits. I'm also aware that there are some R1 renders up there too, which while some are accurate, some with the text+icon mods currently aren't in the kits' current state which I do find to be very misleading if the kits offered on Kono are the ones currently offered.

    I've contacted Kono about this and I asked for a delay and that's currently still in the talks and I hope I can convince them to do so. I want to see this set be successful, since I love this set as much as the community does and I want to see a set and kits that everyone will be happy with. I know I wasn't the best at handling this and I will admit fault on some of this confusion, but I hope everyone here can stay patient with me for a bit longer.
« Last Edit: Wed, 29 April 2020, 00:02:40 by RaySasQuach »


Offline BapoDonu

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Re: GMK Shoko R2 IC
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 04:30:49 »
Damn hope this time,it sells good GL!

Offline DuellM

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 04:31:42 »
Dude, seriously? IC? You know we’ve been so waiting for this

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 04:35:51 »
Quote
That extra こ was totally not forgotten and photoshopped in last minute, but it will be in the final kit.

Had you not mentioned it, I wouldn't have realized that
top notch photoshop skillz  :D

will join definitely  :thumb:

edit:
I'd personally prefer eng+hiragana over mono hiragana
« Last Edit: Tue, 07 April 2020, 04:39:55 by senryo »

Offline Sycomore

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 04:36:27 »
No text + icons. F

Offline terrad

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 04:39:23 »
Please consider text+icon mods

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Offline Mcnos

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 04:52:44 »
Looks like the base is the same as the original, are we going to expect the same pricing as well?

- Disregard, didn't expect the new kits be on the IC page for Kono.

- Also, text + icon
« Last Edit: Tue, 07 April 2020, 08:14:02 by Mcnos »

Offline belgium_waffles

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 05:08:12 »
Ayyy finally. Can't wait  ;D

Offline piit79

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 05:09:04 »
Aww, this is so cute... Love the soft colours. Thought my GMK collection was complete, but alas, just one more GMK set

Any chance for a R1 backspace for Preonic support? I know, we're a very small minority... I usually use a novelty instead, but there are no novelties here. Not a deal breaker, can still use Numpad "-". Not ideal but passable.

Offline whalematrontron

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 05:13:56 »
why tf everyone doing icon mods  :(

Offline Agilr

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 05:16:41 »
Nice mate, glad to see it's finally being run once again

Offline kokugatsu

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 05:20:41 »
Would like to see dual EN JP legends

Offline pengoot02

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 06:57:35 »
ooooh yes

Offline dsw_408

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 07:18:54 »
Text + icon, pls


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Offline dallman5

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 07:24:23 »
Excited to see this to come back!

The only things I kind wish weren’t dropped from R1 were the F5-8 and Print-Scroll-Pause accents. And speaking of accents, you have an alpha colored escape but no accented one and that feels like a mix up?
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Offline Sunhwan Jeong

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 08:13:40 »
I NEED ESC / F5 F6 F7 F8 Accents  :confused:
They are gone:(

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 09:38:20 »
I've looked forward to this set getting a round 2. KEEN

Offline ggmoss

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 09:42:46 »
Please add accent colored Esc key in base kit.
And take my money.  :thumb:

Offline crispgm

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #18 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 09:54:20 »
Is this compatible with R1? so i could buy a Hiragana set to put them together

Offline belerian

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #19 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 09:59:44 »
I've been looking forward to R2 for such a long time. Definitely in!

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #20 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 10:06:53 »
Not gonna post the macsurfy board renders? :O They're already completed

Also here's my shoko:

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #21 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 10:12:55 »
isn't the og icon for capslock a handbag? why no handbag ?

Offline MacSurfy

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #22 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 10:37:32 »
Renders were done almost 5 months ago  :)

Hit me up on Discord

Offline Han

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #23 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 11:19:24 »
Is it possible to have an additional esc key in the base kit, in bright blue?



Offline Sorachi.Ace

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #24 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 11:40:01 »
Yes please

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #25 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 11:57:24 »
any chance to add the alpha colored short bars to the 40s kit?

I don't need literally 8 large spacebars....
« Last Edit: Tue, 07 April 2020, 12:22:47 by tominabox1 »

Offline Vanishingpoints

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #26 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 12:15:25 »
I´m in!

...and if you add a Norde kit you can have some more of my money.

Offline flying1911

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 12:17:26 »
Can you run it, like, right now?
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Offline matthewdias

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #28 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 12:19:34 »
GMK's TU4 (I'll update when I remember the actual Pantone they used)

2975C per: https://matrixzj.github.io/docs/gmk-keycaps/Shoko/

Offline Oosha

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 12:21:45 »
Is there any chance you could include the text+icon tab in the Hiragana kit for R1 owners?

Either way though, I'm getting a kit  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 12:44:35 »
Glad to see Shoko is coming back :D Have some kit feedback:


Base Kit
This kit should cover all of the basic kits in question.
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Please consider adding R3 PgUp and R4 PgDn. With so many keys it would be a shame not to have those two.
You can probably drop the second 1u Ctrl and Alt. Or, you can drop the Ctrl but keep both 1u Alts and add a 1.5u Super to support Mac and HHKB layouts (1u Alt, 1.5u Super, 1.5u Function, 1u Alt).


Hiragana Kit
This is an alphas kit with mono hiragana legends, comes with an extra こ for Alice and an extra 1.75u shift and tab for extra versatility. That extra こ was totally not forgotten and photoshopped in last minute, but it will be in the final kit.
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How about changing the R4 む key to R4 ろ? The latter is completely missing from the kit at the moment, while the former is duplicated. ろ is the extra key that JIS layouts have on R4, so it makes sense to use it as the extra R4 ISO key.


Spacebar Kit
Just some good ol' extra spacebars for accents or split spacebars. Extra B for Alice Users.
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That's too many 6u spacebars, if you ask me. In fact, I think you'd be fine just offering one (white, centered stem) or two at most (either one white centered, one white off-centered; or one white centered, one blue centered).
« Last Edit: Thu, 09 April 2020, 04:25:35 by konstantin »
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Offline L8T

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #31 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 12:44:43 »
Could you add the accented Esc key to base kit? Other than that, im very excited for this!

Offline Abec13

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #32 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 14:13:19 »
Yes. Gimmie.

Also: Please swap the white Esc key for an accent in base.

Please consider: Changing the 1.5 R3 "function" key for an enter Icon for the Minivan. The 1.5 function key is really more for the Pearl Keyboard than anything. In this case I believe the Minivan trumps the Pearl in numbers.
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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #33 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 14:19:57 »
what size bars are in 40s?

optimal would be 2 1uC, 1 2uC, 1 2.25uC, 1 2.75uC

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #34 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 14:33:32 »
guess i'll pick up a hiragana kit to add to my R1 kits. a bit off topic but are you still considering running in a different profile like MG, KAT, or MT3?

Offline Tennstrong

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #35 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 16:11:34 »
Love- to chime in with others, I quite prefer text+icon for this set

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 16:19:37 »
like it

Offline AIRPOTTER

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 16:19:49 »
when will the gb be live

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 16:22:22 »
The doppelganger render though 😍

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #39 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 16:26:27 »
will you include that nice chat icon key in this release?

Offline SlurmsMacKenzie

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #40 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 17:34:57 »
Definitely in for this... Another vote for blue Esc in the base kit if possible. Thanks!

Offline Ultimatum

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #41 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 17:36:12 »
Need Esc accent in the base kit.
« Last Edit: Tue, 07 April 2020, 19:50:47 by Ultimatum »

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #42 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 18:10:25 »
Finally
Pog

Offline byoliven

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #43 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 19:36:26 »
Any chance to include accent short spacebar in 40% kit?


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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #44 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 20:22:37 »
All IN

Offline khaleeesi

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #45 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 20:34:38 »
Please add Esc accent in the base kit!!

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #46 on: Wed, 08 April 2020, 02:04:35 »
+1 for Accent Esc!

Offline Tekniqs

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #47 on: Wed, 08 April 2020, 03:57:50 »
def in. i had a chance to get r1 when Kono had their 'pre order' open. my bumass skipped =/ Won't make that mistake this time around.

Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #48 on: Wed, 08 April 2020, 04:28:58 »
In for base, spacebars and 40's. Good luck!

Offline Mings7

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Re: [IC] GMK Shoko 2nd Style
« Reply #49 on: Wed, 08 April 2020, 09:13:56 »
In! Plz add accent esc