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Offline SoraNoTenshi

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #250 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 07:58:03 »
If more information about a EU Vendor are there... i might reconsider my max price / kit...
45$ more shouldn't destroy my finances... :D

yeah you pay 500 for a keeb and then worry for 45 :D pls

11% before taxes is nothing to scoff at.
Here it is even like 20%
~400e * 0.2 = ~80e so yes it does pay up a bit. also that the shipping costs will be higher from the us.



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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #251 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 08:02:34 »

Here it is even like 20%
~400e * 0.2 = ~80e so yes it does pay up a bit. also that the shipping costs will be higher from the us.

25% of full price (shipping included) + 27$ fee here. Seems to vary a ton across europe

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #252 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 08:16:15 »
25% of full price (shipping included) + 27$ fee here. Seems to vary a ton across europe
Same here. I believe it's all of EU countries (same customs, same import taxes).
On the FE we are talking about almost $250 in taxes added on top, and that's not counting the shipping (the import taxes also apply to shipping costs, yes...)

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #253 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 08:37:57 »
Indeed. 450$ pricetag pre shipping would be more easily swallowed if it had e-white at the minimum

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Re: IRON165 by Smith + Rune
« Reply #254 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 09:20:56 »
Extremely exciting project, beautifully designed and hopefully all that excitement and desire remains once the estimated price is announced (unlike a couple other similar designs).


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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #255 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 09:34:05 »
"Extremely exciting project, beautifully designed and hopefully all that excitement and desire remains once the estimated price is announced (unlike a couple other similar designs)."

Bye.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #256 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 17:52:29 »
i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #257 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 17:57:36 »
i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn

you're alive?

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #258 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 18:00:00 »
i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn

you're alive?

i broke my jaw in june and i've been employed full time

also **** like this gets me righteously salty
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #259 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 18:34:13 »
i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #260 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 19:00:17 »
Bye.

I'm sorry I upset you in the Black Lotus thread.

i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn

Not sure about your benevolent use of "we" there but this hobby is like Fortnite skins and other microtransactions praying on addictive personalities so uh

Never?

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #261 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 19:05:30 »
not be able for FE but will try with SE,  :p  :p

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #262 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 19:08:20 »
i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn
Ah didn't work for Kepler, let me try this in the iron thread.

FE is $885, not the standard edition.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #263 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 19:16:33 »
i quit

$885 from a new vendor

when will we learn

These guys might be new, but due to their professional jobs they are not lacking skill or expertise when it comes to engineering

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« Reply #264 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 20:35:43 »
i retract my previous statement

lbaron got in touch with me on discord unprompted and broke down the price with me and cleared up the beef i normally have with insane boards like this

he was very straightforward with me about why the FE costs as much as it does, and that which price points they're trying to hit

unlike some other GBs from new designers at this price point, nobody is trying to hide any info, or treating anything like a trade secret

it was a very straightforward, honest conversation, and it was super refreshing

he also mentioned that there is a good chunk of money saved up and set aside in case things go wrong

these guys are genuinely passionate about this project and even i'm excited about it

consider this project puddsy approved
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #265 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 21:55:07 »
Thanks for the vote of confidence, everyone. We are very passionate about this project and doing our best to make sure this is a success.

If anyone has questions, we're pretty much an open book. Feel free to reach out here or on Discord and ask either of us anything.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #266 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 22:06:17 »
Can't wait for the final decision on colors.
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #267 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 22:08:52 »
Can't wait for the final decision on colors.

We should have a form up next week polling for preferred colors :)

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #268 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 22:38:11 »
Would love an FE but in 60% layout. Maybe someday!  ;)
GLWS, definitely an interesting board you got here.

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[IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #269 on: Mon, 05 August 2019, 23:28:30 »
i retract my previous statement

lbaron got in touch with me on discord unprompted and broke down the price with me and cleared up the beef i normally have with insane boards like this

he was very straightforward with me about why the FE costs as much as it does, and that which price points they're trying to hit

unlike some other GBs from new designers at this price point, nobody is trying to hide any info, or treating anything like a trade secret

it was a very straightforward, honest conversation, and it was super refreshing

he also mentioned that there is a good chunk of money saved up and set aside in case things go wrong

these guys are genuinely passionate about this project and even i'm excited about it

consider this project puddsy approved
That’s... good for you, but for the rest of us, yeah not exactly helpful.
It’s not the FE but the “more affordable” SE that annoyed me.
Even leaving the pink elephant that is Polaris (also a gasket kit BTW) aside, comparing this to the other spec-equivalent kits, I still don’t see why it warrants the $450 price point.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #270 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 03:57:16 »
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #271 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 06:18:56 »
I really wanted to get in on the FE edition but I have to agree that import taxes and shipping would push it over $1200.  It is getting just too pricey.  I may need to rethink this one.
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #272 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:39:19 »
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other people so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did to avoid complaints like mine.
« Last Edit: Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:49:22 by nguyenhimself »

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #273 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:43:38 »
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

There's no way I can ever see this going wrong.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #274 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:49:04 »
That’s... good for you, but for the rest of us, yeah not exactly helpful.
It’s not the FE but the “more affordable” SE that annoyed me.
Even leaving the pink elephant that is Polaris (also a gasket kit BTW) aside, comparing this to the other spec-equivalent kits, I still don’t see why it warrants the $450 price point.

They're probably using a known good factory, which is always worth using over a new factory with no keyboard experience. Yes, it'll be more expensive, but absolutely worth it.

Polaris is probably priced @ 300 units, with a lower quality factory too. It's not really a fair comparison.

imo a better comparison would be to the Jane V2 CE, $550 @ 100 units. And looking at the size & quantity of the components, IRON165 is priced very fairly.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #275 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:52:07 »
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other people so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did to avoid complaints like mine.

To be fair, they don't have to do anything. If you've got some critical feedback on what they could've done differently, I'm sure that would be useful to hear. For quite a few people, they do understand why the board costs what it does and they are prepared to pay the price.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #276 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 08:52:14 »
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other people so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did to avoid complaints like mine.
Prototypes are still being produced. So they'll do a video when it comes out. The GB won't begin until that happens. So maybe, you could just.... wait?

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #277 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:08:00 »
i retract my previous statement

lbaron got in touch with me on discord unprompted and broke down the price with me and cleared up the beef i normally have with insane boards like this

he was very straightforward with me about why the FE costs as much as it does, and that which price points they're trying to hit

unlike some other GBs from new designers at this price point, nobody is trying to hide any info, or treating anything like a trade secret

it was a very straightforward, honest conversation, and it was super refreshing

he also mentioned that there is a good chunk of money saved up and set aside in case things go wrong

these guys are genuinely passionate about this project and even i'm excited about it

consider this project puddsy approved
That’s... good for you, but for the rest of us, yeah not exactly helpful.
It’s not the FE but the “more affordable” SE that annoyed me.
Even leaving the pink elephant that is Polaris (also a gasket kit BTW) aside, comparing this to the other spec-equivalent kits, I still don’t see why it warrants the $450 price point.

450 is a normal price tho

They're using the same factory that everyone else uses
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #278 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:18:15 »
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

No worries. I'm not a collector. I keep two or three keyboards. I sell one if I get a new one.

Seems like I hit a nerve though.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #279 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:44:55 »
Now I really want to hear what they've been saying in private, even though I don't have interest in buying this board nor do I think they can't put whatever price they want on it.

Good story helps to sell expensive product though, that's for damn sure.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #280 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 09:51:28 »
Do the people complaining about the price think this board won't sellout quickly?

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #281 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 10:58:34 »
Had a really good conversation with Ibaron yesterday on discord.  Everything makes sense to me now based on what he told me directly.

Hope this GB goes smoothly and I can’t wait to see other projects they come out with down the road.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #282 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:02:16 »
Do the people complaining about the price think this board won't sellout quickly?

Absolutely not. If anyone expects a board like this to not sell out instantly in this day and age regardless of every single other factor they're delusional.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #283 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 12:53:11 »
Had a great conversation through slack DMs with the makers. They sent nudes. I offered constructive criticism. We're all good now.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #284 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 13:47:23 »
Had a great conversation through slack DMs with the makers. They sent nudes. I offered constructive criticism. We're all good now.

+1

Also had a great conversation with them when I met them at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #285 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 13:57:07 »
Now I really want to hear what they've been saying in private, even though I don't have interest in buying this board nor do I think they can't put whatever price they want on it.

Good story helps to sell expensive product though, that's for damn sure.

Short version is that I asked what the point of all the exotic materials is, and lbaron told me basically "idk it's cool" instead of making up some bull**** about "the density properties of copper and stainless production" which wouldn't be dissimilar to what I've heard from others.
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #286 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:03:32 »
Had a great conversation through slack DMs with the makers. They sent nudes. I offered constructive criticism. We're all good now.

+1

Also had a great conversation with them when I met them at a grocery store in Los Angeles yesterday. I told him how cool it was to meet him in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother him and ask him for photos or anything. He said, “Oh, like you’re doing now?” I was taken aback, and all I could say was “Huh?” but he kept cutting me off and going “huh? huh? huh?” and closing his hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard him chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw him trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in his hands without paying. The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like “Sir, you need to pay for those first.” At first he kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter. When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, he stopped her and told her to scan them each individually “to prevent any electrical infetterence,” and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, he kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.

You win :laughing-crying:

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #287 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:43:25 »
Short version is that I asked what the point of all the exotic materials is, and lbaron told me basically "idk it's cool" instead of making up some bull**** about "the density properties of copper and stainless production" which wouldn't be dissimilar to what I've heard from others.
exotic materials? that is alu and brass?

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #288 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:47:26 »
Short version is that I asked what the point of all the exotic materials is, and lbaron told me basically "idk it's cool" instead of making up some bull**** about "the density properties of copper and stainless production" which wouldn't be dissimilar to what I've heard from others.
exotic materials? that is alu and brass?
I'm pretty sure it's typhon organs

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #289 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:48:57 »
Short version is that I asked what the point of all the exotic materials is, and lbaron told me basically "idk it's cool" instead of making up some bull**** about "the density properties of copper and stainless production" which wouldn't be dissimilar to what I've heard from others.
exotic materials? that is alu and brass?
Stainless steel and copper.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #290 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 14:49:19 »
Short version is that I asked what the point of all the exotic materials is, and lbaron told me basically "idk it's cool" instead of making up some bull**** about "the density properties of copper and stainless production" which wouldn't be dissimilar to what I've heard from others.
exotic materials? that is alu and brass?
Copper and stainless steel. He's talking about the FE version.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #291 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 15:33:52 »
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other people so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did to avoid complaints like mine.

It's a bit narcissistic to believe that these guys are trying to prove anything to you, no?

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #292 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 15:54:23 »
wait so what is the expected price? and when is the gb going to start?

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #293 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 15:55:32 »
wait so what is the expected price? and when is the gb going to start?

SE - ~445
FE - 845

Late september/early october. More details in the first, second and third posts.

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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #294 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 19:24:07 »
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other people so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did to avoid complaints like mine.

It's a bit narcissistic to believe that these guys are trying to prove anything to you, no?

he's been trolling on here for years
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[IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #295 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 19:30:13 »
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other people so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did to avoid complaints like mine.

It's a bit narcissistic to believe that these guys are trying to prove anything to you, no?

he's been trolling on here for years
the actually he always complains what he thought too expensive for himself, despite this kb has normal price with the design ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, I'm in for SE, aren't you ?


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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #296 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 19:33:20 »
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other people so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did to avoid complaints like mine.

It's a bit narcissistic to believe that these guys are trying to prove anything to you, no?

he's been trolling on here for years
the actually he always complains what he thought too expensive for himself, despite this kb has normal price with the design ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, I'm in for SE, aren't you ?


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no, it costs an amount of money greater than zero therefore i cannot afford it
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #297 on: Tue, 06 August 2019, 19:36:01 »
Even if the price is justified doesn't mean you need to buy into it. You have to accept that you can't own every new keyboard. As the community is getting used to higher prices, even if it results in a more refined, durable and luxurious case, it doesn't mean everyone has to be able to afford that case.

You have to let go of the mindset that you have to own every case.

God do I hate this type of "putting your own words into other people's mouths under the disguise of sympathizing "now now child" talk". Stop trying to project your addictive self into other people.

If these guys wants to get compensation for their R&D & design, fine whatever, but at least be brave and transparent enough to post what they have privately sent to other people so everyone can understand their justifications.

Remember, they're a new vendor. They don't get to have the benefit of the doubt. As designers, surely they understand the import of telling a clear product story to an audience? Is it my fault that they failed to show me why their keyboard is worth its cost? Look at what Keycult did to avoid complaints like mine.

It's a bit narcissistic to believe that these guys are trying to prove anything to you, no?

he's been trolling on here for years
the actually he always complains what he thought too expensive for himself, despite this kb has normal price with the design ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, I'm in for SE, aren't you ?


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no, it costs an amount of money greater than zero therefore i cannot afford it
people buy what they want, :))), hope i can snap one when the GB open


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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #298 on: Fri, 09 August 2019, 20:15:42 »
Will there be an option to add foam (between PCB and plate) in the SE version?
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Re: [IC] IRON165 by Smith + Rune (Prices and Vendor Announcement)
« Reply #299 on: Sat, 10 August 2019, 01:10:25 »
Cant wait