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[IC] KAT MUJI
« on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 08:31:24 »
Inspired by the simple design principles of contemporary Japanese design and its namesake, the ubiquitous lifestyle brand, KAT MUJI seeks not to elicit feelings of strong desire. Rather, it seeks to evoke in the user a sense of quiet satisfaction when he sits down at his desk and looks down at his keyboard.


Hey all, been planning to run a keycaps GB for a while now but in GMK as the colorways I intended to run with were rather saturated but without really committing as I found the market oversaturated with GMK sets. Till I dabbled around with this colorway, tried KAT and found the profile both immensely satisfying to type on and particularly well suited to bringing out the best in this colorway. So, without further ado, allow me to present this IC for




Inspiration
I played with these colors some time ago whilst designing my personal logo with the red and black providing a rather nice contrast to the rice paper texture I laid the logo over. So the idea sorta stuck but it was not till much later when I was refining and simplifying the colors that I discovered the similarities to the MUJI branding. And that's pretty much how I arrived at the name.

Color codes
MUJI Beige White: #FAF7EB
MUJI Red: #7F0019

Kits
This is the initial plan for the kits. However, since Keyreative's definition of MOQ is rather different from GMK's/SP's, I will be splitting the Ergo/Ortho/40s kit into 3 separate ones and fleshing them out even further a la KAT WoB.



Artisan Collabs
TBA

Deskmat
TBA

Pricing
TBA

To-Do
1.Get a hold of the guys at ZF!
2.Flesh out Ergo, Ortho, 40s kits
3.Match colors to Pantone/RAL
4.Get proper renders done
5.Design accompanying deskmat
6.Reach out to vendors and/or artisan makers
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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 08:34:52 »
Need renders

Otherwise, looks good. Could always do with some katakana alphas :p Although I would prefer standard Icon Mods instead of Modern

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 08:35:42 »
Hi sirs ne keypora collab avail
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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 08:37:45 »
I dig it :)

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« Reply #4 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 08:47:20 »
nice

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 08:51:08 »
A few observations:

- Latin alphas (1): why are there two Katakana keys?
- Latin alphas (2): there is a mod-colored R4 `~ key but not a mod-colored R3 \| key.
- Modifiers: there should be an R1 End key here (there is an R2 End key already).
- Space bars: no split space bars?
- ISO kit (1): I don't see the point of the R1/R2 HUDE keys and the second and third Shift keys in this kit. Shouldn't they be in the modifiers kit? (hmmm... R1 End IS here)
- ISO kit (2): support for English (UK) over ISO is complete, but perhaps an accented R4 key should be there.
- ISO kit (3): support for English (USA) over ANSISO and ISO is almost complete: an R2 \| should be there.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 09:05:29 »
Looks clean, interested. Just wondering if there's any possibility of adding 1u 0 the numpad kit?

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« Reply #7 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 09:11:27 »
Colevrak?
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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 09:22:53 »
Colevrak?

Oops, forgot about that. I'll just add that in the next revision.

Looks clean, interested. Just wondering if there's any possibility of adding 1u 0 the numpad kit?

Oh dear, my bad. Think I deleted the wrong layer when I was updating it. This should be the correct one.


Need renders

Otherwise, looks good. Could always do with some katakana alphas :p Although I would prefer standard Icon Mods instead of Modern

Well renders are on the way, but the guy I have chosen to work with is unfortunately backed up till Dec so they are coming, preferably I will have the kits finalized by then as well. As for the mods, they aren't exactly the Modern icon mods. Rather they have been redesigned to be in line with the theme, uniformly comprised of hard straight lines.


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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 09:30:34 »
A few observations:

- Latin alphas (1): why are there two Katakana keys?
- Latin alphas (2): there is a mod-colored R4 `~ key but not a mod-colored R3 \| key.
- Modifiers: there should be an R1 End key here (there is an R2 End key already).
- Space bars: no split space bars?
- ISO kit (1): I don't see the point of the R1/R2 HUDE keys and the second and third Shift keys in this kit. Shouldn't they be in the modifiers kit? (hmmm... R1 End IS here)
- ISO kit (2): support for English (UK) over ISO is complete, but perhaps an accented R4 key should be there.
- ISO kit (3): support for English (USA) over ANSISO and ISO is almost complete: an R2 \| should be there.

Heh, a whole post dedicated for your feedback, which is very much appreciated. I did lose track of the mods a few times while doing the kits up and I just knew I was missing something.

1. The keys missing in the ISO kits will be added in the next revision.
2. There is no mod-colored R3 | / \ because the only keys that are accented are the Enter and Esc keys, in keeping with the minimal aesthetic of the set.
3. Those 2 characters in the Latin Alphas are not Katakana keys. They are the novelties that I've chosen to include in the alphas.
4. The split spacebars will be moved into the spacebar kit in the next revision.

Once again, thanks for taking a fine-tooth comb and going through the kits! Your feedback has helped immensely in filling the gaps in the kits, particularly ones i hardly use.  ;D
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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 09:43:59 »
Colevrak?

Oops, forgot about that. I'll just add that in the next revision.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 09:45:01 »
Nice idea, nice colors, great profile--but my concern is the name. Are you going to actually call it "KAT MUJI" and use the logo like that? That seems like a legal grey area to me...

Maybe you could do something equally as creative as their name and play off of Mujirushi Ryōhin as well. KAT Quality, or KAT Brandless, or even KAT No Name if you get my drift.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 09:46:04 »
Do you think about trademark?
MUJI is sensitive about it.
https://www.muji.com/sg/blog/20190913_1446/

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 10:22:32 »
Do you think about trademark?
MUJI is sensitive about it.
https://www.muji.com/sg/blog/20190913_1446/
Nice idea, nice colors, great profile--but my concern is the name. Are you going to actually call it "KAT MUJI" and use the logo like that? That seems like a legal grey area to me...

Maybe you could do something equally as creative as their name and play off of Mujirushi Ryōhin as well. KAT Quality, or KAT Brandless, or even KAT No Name if you get my drift.
Thanks guys! After since consideration, I'll be changing the name to something a little less thorny. For now I'll leave it as so until I arrive at a new name.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 12:25:15 »
LOL I love muji, might have to get this.
 

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 12:56:28 »
LOL I love muji, might have to get this.
What is a muji? I'm just in it for the colorway
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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 12:59:57 »
What is a muji? I'm just in it for the colorway

It's a japanese lifestyle brand. They sell furniture, clothes, anything really. Trying to think of an American equivalent, but nothing really comes to the top of my head.

https://www.muji.com/us/

 

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 13:16:42 »
OMG I'm a huge fan of MUJI. Cherry profile might be cleaner imo but I'm keeping an eye on this set!
        

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 17:46:08 »
Muji is great and so are these colors. Hopefully you don't get sued :p

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« Reply #20 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 18:04:42 »
Muji, the company's name, actually stands for "brand-less goodies". They are known for their clean, brand-less designs with decent quality and affordable prices. I love their white chocolate covered freeze dried strawberries lol.

Hopefully all these will translate into the key set as well!

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 21:23:24 »
Looks dope, will keep an eye out on vendors / pricing!

Only comment would be on the numpad / "num lock" button - have you considered adding an alpha num as well? The icon looks cool and would be nice to have something standard as well.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 22:27:38 »
I don't quite understand the Control and ESC icons.
How did you arrive at that design?
Are they icons that exist already?

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 07 November 2019, 23:09:33 »
I don't quite understand the Control and ESC icons.
How did you arrive at that design?
Are they icons that exist already?
No, they are not though they are based on existing ones. I sought to only incorporate straight lines and triangles in the design for the icons whilst refraining from using other shapes. Additionally, I had to ensure that the design did not depart too far from the other icons.

Only comment would be on the numpad / "num lock" button - have you considered adding an alpha num as well? The icon looks cool and would be nice to have something standard as well.
Thanks, I overlooked that, I will add that in the next revision too.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 01:32:59 »
I don't quite understand the Control and ESC icons.
How did you arrive at that design?
Are they icons that exist already?
No, they are not though they are based on existing ones. I sought to only incorporate straight lines and triangles in the design for the icons whilst refraining from using other shapes. Additionally, I had to ensure that the design did not depart too far from the other icons.
For Control, why not use the usual ^ icon?
For ESC, there's the standardized ⎋ icon which would fit well with the rest of the icons. Wikipedia article.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #25 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 01:46:10 »
I don't quite understand the Control and ESC icons.
How did you arrive at that design?
Are they icons that exist already?
No, they are not though they are based on existing ones. I sought to only incorporate straight lines and triangles in the design for the icons whilst refraining from using other shapes. Additionally, I had to ensure that the design did not depart too far from the other icons.
For Control, why not use the usual ^ icon?
For ESC, there's the standardized ⎋ icon which would fit well with the rest of the icons. Wikipedia article.
Using the ^ icon would overlap with the up arrow key. Using the standard esc icon would deviate from the rest of the set in that no other icon uses a circle.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 07:28:43 »
Can you add a Japanese keyboard addon kit to this one?

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #27 on: Fri, 08 November 2019, 08:53:01 »
I don't quite understand the Control and ESC icons.
How did you arrive at that design?
Are they icons that exist already?
No, they are not though they are based on existing ones. I sought to only incorporate straight lines and triangles in the design for the icons whilst refraining from using other shapes. Additionally, I had to ensure that the design did not depart too far from the other icons.
For Control, why not use the usual ^ icon?
For ESC, there's the standardized ⎋ icon which would fit well with the rest of the icons. Wikipedia article.
Using the ^ icon would overlap with the up arrow key. Using the standard esc icon would deviate from the rest of the set in that no other icon uses a circle.

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Hmmm I can see your point.
Hope you'll find alternative icons for those 2 keys. While all the other icons are very easy to understand, the Control and ESC keys seem rather complicated to me.

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Re: [IC] KAT MUJI
« Reply #28 on: Sat, 09 November 2019, 00:43:06 »
Been waiting for a set like this for awhile. Any chance we can do white instead of beige just to avoid being so close Yugo? Also would fit better with the theme imo.

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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 10 November 2019, 10:39:50 »
Been waiting for a set like this for awhile. Any chance we can do white instead of beige just to avoid being so close Yugo? Also would fit better with the theme imo.
Thanks! Unfortunately I dropped by MUJI earlier today and found that the beige was a lot more yellow and way creamier than I thought it'd be. There might be a change of colors, but I'm still slightly on the fence about that.

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« Reply #30 on: Sun, 10 November 2019, 10:42:56 »
Can you add a Japanese keyboard addon kit to this one?
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As it stands, there's already quite a number of kits. I did think of adding japanese mod kit a la epbt kuro/shiro and simpleja, but I decided against it cos the some of the text was just too long and would end up going to 2 lines.

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« Reply #31 on: Sun, 10 November 2019, 10:44:33 »
Muji is great and so are these colors. Hopefully you don't get sued :p

Nice idea, nice colors, great profile--but my concern is the name. Are you going to actually call it "KAT MUJI" and use the logo like that? That seems like a legal grey area to me...

Maybe you could do something equally as creative as their name and play off of Mujirushi Ryōhin as well. KAT Quality, or KAT Brandless, or even KAT No Name if you get my drift.

Do you think about trademark?
MUJI is sensitive about it.
https://www.muji.com/sg/blog/20190913_1446/

Thanks guys! The name will be changed, and I'm currently contemplating a few alternatives. Stay tuned to this thread for updates!

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« Reply #32 on: Sun, 10 November 2019, 20:14:49 »
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« Reply #33 on: Mon, 11 November 2019, 05:04:12 »
Personally, I think cream/beige looks perfect, white wouldn't..
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