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Offline x86ect

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Re: [IC] ATLAS 5x12 ortho (Update 5: PCB has arrived!)
« Reply #50 on: Wed, 26 February 2020, 17:16:53 »
What's the width from the pen rail to the edge?
Thanks, in advance.

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Re: [IC] ATLAS 5x12 ortho (Update 5: PCB has arrived!)
« Reply #51 on: Wed, 26 February 2020, 20:21:38 »
What's the width from the pen rail to the edge?
Thanks, in advance.

Do you mean from the pen rail to the back edge of the case as opposed to the left and the right sides? From the pen rail to the back of the case it's just a hair over 10.5mm. It's just enough to actually hold a pen. There's a picture a few posts back.

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« Reply #52 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 02:24:59 »
From the pen rail to the back of the case it's just a hair over 10.5mm.

That's the measurement I was looking for. Thank you.  :thumb:

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« Reply #53 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 17:08:20 »
Any idea when the GB will start?

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« Reply #54 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 18:53:32 »
Any idea when the GB will start?

Shooting for mid-to-late March at the earliest and April at the latest.

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« Reply #55 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 07:44:04 »
i registered on geekhack just to be able to buy this keyboard. any info on the pricing yet?

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« Reply #56 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 18:06:22 »
i registered on geekhack just to be able to buy this keyboard. any info on the pricing yet?

Probably should have pricing in a week or two. Estimate is between $300 and $400. We're trying to keep it low, but you're paying for brass bottom (entire bottom), brass plate, brass pen rail, PCB with RGB and hotswap plus daughterboard, 3 acrylic pieces, and also foam. Foam is a new addition that we just recently added. It will add a trivial amount to the cost but the difference in sound should be noteworthy.

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« Reply #57 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 21:49:56 »
Have been following this project for a minute, and it is enticing me quite a bit.

Any chance it will support 2 x 2u spacebars? It's how I like running my Preonic  :cool:

Thanks!

Offline walie

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« Reply #58 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 22:42:08 »
Have been following this project for a minute, and it is enticing me quite a bit.

Any chance it will support 2 x 2u spacebars? It's how I like running my Preonic  :cool:

Thanks!

re-read the OP

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« Reply #59 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 23:08:06 »
Have been following this project for a minute, and it is enticing me quite a bit.

Any chance it will support 2 x 2u spacebars? It's how I like running my Preonic  :cool:

Thanks!

re-read the OP

Can't believe I missed that altogether haha, much appreciated!

Offline piit79

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« Reply #60 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 23:52:38 »
... but you're paying for... PCB with RGB..., 3 acrylic pieces...

That's actually one aspect of the design I don't care about at all and won't use. For me, RGB doesn't belong in "serious" boards. But I realize that's just me, people seem to love colourful lights ;)

Can't wait nonetheless!

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« Reply #61 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 00:22:25 »
... but you're paying for... PCB with RGB..., 3 acrylic pieces...

That's actually one aspect of the design I don't care about at all and won't use. For me, RGB doesn't belong in "serious" boards. But I realize that's just me, people seem to love colourful lights ;)

Can't wait nonetheless!
I don't generally care for rgb either, but I find the minimalistic use of them on this case to be quite attractive.

Offline gex

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« Reply #62 on: Sat, 07 March 2020, 13:03:24 »
itíd be nice to have a set of anodized pen rails in different colors to be able to match the case with different keycaps, especially if itís magnetic.

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« Reply #63 on: Sat, 07 March 2020, 17:30:08 »
itíd be nice to have a set of anodized pen rails in different colors to be able to match the case with different keycaps, especially if itís magnetic.

It won't be magnetic - too expensive. It'll screw in from the bottom. As for different colors, I do like the idea, but we're a bit too far along at this point. It's also brass and not aluminum, not that we couldn't have it in aluminum, but another material will add more complexity to the manufacturer, which will likely add more to the cost of everything else.


In the end, I'd be more concerned with matching the caps to the color of the case than to the pen rail. Maybe if I design another case in the future with a pen rail, I'll make it aluminum instead of brass so that it can be anodized in different colors.


Thanks for your interest and sorry we couldn't satisfy this request for this GB. 

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« Reply #64 on: Sat, 07 March 2020, 20:45:38 »
I'm in!

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« Reply #65 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 03:51:01 »
I had a JJ40 case from KPrepublic back in the day, and found that it has a similar top-mount where the posts are towards the center. The left and right perimeter had an unusually high amount of flex compared to the center -- is it the same case here?

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« Reply #66 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 12:41:41 »
I had a JJ40 case from KPrepublic back in the day, and found that it has a similar top-mount where the posts are towards the center. The left and right perimeter had an unusually high amount of flex compared to the center -- is it the same case here?

I've also owned a JJ KPRepublic case - JJ50 to be exact. The difference is that the JJ uses an aluminum plate. Since the Atlas is using brass, which is much stiffer, there shouldn't be any worry about flex. Now for those that order a polycarbonate plate, of course there will be flex which is why someone would choose that material over brass. If you're still worried about flex, you can put some foam between the plate and the PCB. I'll provide the plate DXF file so you can have some made if you'd like.


I have thought about adding another plate mounting point the case, but for the reasons above I've decided against it. Once we get the new PCB we'll be able to do extensive testing just to make sure.


Thanks for your question and thanks for your interest. Cheers!

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Re: [IC] ATLAS 5x12 ortho (Update 5: PCB has arrived!)
« Reply #67 on: Tue, 17 March 2020, 21:18:32 »
Turns out I was wrong about ordering additional protos.


238049-0
238051-1

I've asked that the artwork on the back be about twice this size. These pics are straight from the factory.




Still waiting on the second round of proto PCBs though. Also still working on pricing, but it is coming. Stay tuned

Offline beekey

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« Reply #68 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 05:17:34 »
Turns out I was wrong about ordering additional protos.


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I've asked that the artwork on the back be about twice this size. These pics are straight from the factory.




Still waiting on the second round of proto PCBs though. Also still working on pricing, but it is coming. Stay tuned
Wow, nice. Great blue tone. :thumb:

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« Reply #69 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 05:58:11 »
This looks clean af

Offline piit79

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« Reply #70 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 06:21:56 »
I've asked that the artwork on the back be about twice this size.

Looks good to me... Then again, it's on the bottom, so I don't really care what the size the artwork is ;)

I'm more curious about the pricing - if it can be made under $400 that would be awesome. As I mentioned before I'd happily give up any acrylic inserts if it lowered the price - I won't use any underglow.

I understand it's probably too late for that. And many people probably like pretty lights :)
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« Reply #71 on: Wed, 25 March 2020, 15:08:54 »
Just another small update to notify you all of progress...or lack thereof.


The second prototype should arrive this week but we are still awaiting the second round of PCB protos. Those are still 2-3 weeks out unfortunately.


So as you can guess, I'd expect a GB to happen in late April or perhaps early May. We will do our best to try and keep everyone updated even if there isn't much news to report.


Next update should be about pricing.


Stay strong.  :thumb:

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« Reply #72 on: Wed, 25 March 2020, 16:53:08 »
Just another small update to notify you all of progress...or lack thereof.


The second prototype should arrive this week but we are still awaiting the second round of PCB protos. Those are still 2-3 weeks out unfortunately.


So as you can guess, I'd expect a GB to happen in late April or perhaps early May. We will do our best to try and keep everyone updated even if there isn't much news to report.


Next update should be about pricing.


Stay strong.  :thumb:
Very, very exciting to hear updates are here and coming!

Hope to snatch one up :)

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« Reply #73 on: Wed, 25 March 2020, 23:18:42 »
Thanks for keeping us updated!

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« Reply #74 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 08:30:36 »
I have been following for a bit and love the updates! Thank you so much for sharing as the process continues.

Iím wondering if itís possible to provide a very general idea on price and timing. Just trying to get my budget in order. I definitely donít want to miss this, but my keyboard budget has taken a beating lately with all these great GMK sets that have been rolling out.

Cheers!!

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« Reply #75 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 08:35:28 »


... my keyboard budget has taken a beating lately with all these great GMK set...
Cheers!!

I was expecting you to say "due to this COVID-19 mess", but no - you're honest with yourself

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« Reply #76 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 12:20:53 »
Hi the prototype looks nice. I have been following your IC since you put it up. I was very keen on joining. But I am sorry to say that I will not be joining your GB anymore specially with what has happened with the Wuhan Virus (Yeah I will use it irrespective what the official name is). If my understanding is correct, you will get the keyboard manufactured in China.

The CCP can't pretend that everything is normal and reopen their factories. I am terrified at the 21 day lockdown in India. I really hope we can pull through without a huge damage.

As far as my hobby is concerned I have already ordered many things before Jan 2020 and I am going to honour those commitments but not any new ones. I do hope the Chinese people can get the courage to say something against the ruthless CCP. I sincerely hope the top guy in China loses his job for putting the whole world at risk.
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« Reply #77 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 15:40:59 »
Hi the prototype looks nice. I have been following your IC since you put it up. I was very keen on joining. But I am sorry to say that I will not be joining your GB anymore specially with what has happened with the Wuhan Virus (Yeah I will use it irrespective what the official name is). If my understanding is correct, you will get the keyboard manufactured in China.

The CCP can't pretend that everything is normal and reopen their factories. I am terrified at the 21 day lockdown in India. I really hope we can pull through without a huge damage.

As far as my hobby is concerned I have already ordered many things before Jan 2020 and I am going to honour those commitments but not any new ones. I do hope the Chinese people can get the courage to say something against the ruthless CCP. I sincerely hope the top guy in China loses his job for putting the whole world at risk.


That's correct. Both board and PCB are being made in China. Unfortunately because of costs, it wouldn't be feasible to have both manufactured in the States. Price-wise, the cost would be astronomical compared to manufacturing in China.


Your concern is completely valid though and I respect it. It's great that Salvun, alongside MyKeyboard.EU is making a lot of boards now and I'd hope someone with the same resources and knowledge as him could do the same for people in the States.


I have been following for a bit and love the updates! Thank you so much for sharing as the process continues.

Iím wondering if itís possible to provide a very general idea on price and timing. Just trying to get my budget in order. I definitely donít want to miss this, but my keyboard budget has taken a beating lately with all these great GMK sets that have been rolling out.

Cheers!!


I've given a general timeline update in my last post. As for price, that is to come very soon. I'd expect it to be between $300 and $400. We're trying to keep the costs down as much as possible, but because of the type of materials used - lots of brass - and the quantity of components, we're likely not able to keep the price under $300. Just for transparency sake, and I don't need a pat on the back for this - nor am I asking for one, I've asked the vendor that the only compensation I receive is a couple of boards. In return, we'll use the difference to make the board just a little bit cheaper for all of you.

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« Reply #78 on: Sat, 28 March 2020, 09:39:55 »
Definitely in for this. Take your time! I'm just glad I didn't miss the opportunity to get in on the GB. I bought SA Sail, and saw this keyboard in the renders!
Cheers