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Offline wongie

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #100 on: Wed, 19 February 2020, 07:37:31 »
Looks much better without the top blocker. Would look better without the arrow blocker too but can't have everything.

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« Reply #101 on: Wed, 19 February 2020, 11:10:09 »
This is a rad concept!  If the price isn't outrageous (like the Evolv is going to be), I'd be in for this.  I'm down with thick bezels.  And in particular the no-blocker orange render looks fantastic!

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #102 on: Wed, 19 February 2020, 12:09:31 »
I like the magnet concept ! I'm in if there's a key on top right corner (I don't like that unused space)
BTW, no issue with magnets for those who wear mechanical watches ?

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« Reply #103 on: Wed, 19 February 2020, 13:57:46 »
Definitely interested in this!

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« Reply #104 on: Wed, 19 February 2020, 22:51:59 »
Looks awesome Jae & Flex! Now make it a 40 thank you

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #105 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 14:29:36 »
It looks like the magnets are only housed along the outer rim on the pcb assembly. Is this true?

What's the target plate displacement during normal typing?

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #106 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:12:45 »
Could i ask what the expected front height is please?


It comes in just under 18mm (17.89 to be exact)  :thumb:

Thanks a mill for the response.
Looking forward to the GB and hope I manage to snatch one.

PS: If the orange colour is made. Can I vote for it to be called Datsun Orange please  :)


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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #107 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 15:15:01 »
Could i ask what the expected front height is please?


It comes in just under 18mm (17.89 to be exact)  :thumb:

Thanks a mill for the response.
Looking forward to the GB and hope I manage to snatch one.

PS: If the orange colour is made. Can I vote for it to be called Datsun Orange please  :)

Which sun? lololol jk. The renders kinda look like the Maserati orange to me, but I like the idea of Datsun Orange better

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #108 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 18:29:54 »
Could i ask what the expected front height is please?


It comes in just under 18mm (17.89 to be exact)  :thumb:

Thanks a mill for the response.
Looking forward to the GB and hope I manage to snatch one.

PS: If the orange colour is made. Can I vote for it to be called Datsun Orange please  :)

Which sun? lololol jk. The renders kinda look like the Maserati orange to me, but I like the idea of Datsun Orange better

He mentions to name it that because I have a Datsun Fairlady in a very close colour :D

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #109 on: Thu, 20 February 2020, 19:08:17 »
Love this!! Canít wait to see how the protos go :0

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #110 on: Sat, 22 February 2020, 02:25:11 »
Excited to see where this goes.

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« Reply #111 on: Sat, 22 February 2020, 02:37:01 »
Looks amazing, any estimate on pricing?


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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #112 on: Sat, 22 February 2020, 09:57:34 »
Looks amazing, any estimate on pricing?


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Not yet. Flex and I want to validate the prototypes first and then go from there.


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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #113 on: Sun, 23 February 2020, 04:05:42 »
It'll be interesting to see how much give this has during normal typing.

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« Reply #114 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 12:07:21 »
This is the proper chonky boi we need!

Any chance you can update the discord link for updates?

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« Reply #115 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 13:33:25 »
This is the proper chonky boi we need!

Any chance you can update the discord link for updates?


Here is the updated link!!


https://discord.gg/qm944aC


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« Reply #116 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 13:36:25 »
This is the proper chonky boi we need!

Any chance you can update the discord link for updates?


Here is the updated link!!


https://discord.gg/qm944aC


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it may have actually been the discord servers being down. they were throwing some errors right around the time i tried to look at it, according to their status page

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #117 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 08:16:38 »
Interested, depending on price. I can't imagine maglev is cheap... ;)

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #118 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 20:13:25 »
This is extremely interesting! The only thing I really don't like is the missing key in the top right corner.
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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #119 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 20:17:48 »
This is extremely interesting! The only thing I really don't like is the missing key in the top right corner.


As addressed later in the thread we are experimenting with multiple top cases so there will be other options as well.

Still aiming to receive the prototypes this month




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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #120 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 20:22:02 »
Yay, awesome!

Also, thinking about it a tad more, I'm concerned about the feeling being just like a top mount if the magnets are too powerful... Do you plan to propose different force of magnets? And how will you avoid the rattle between the plate and the housing if the plate has to move a little?
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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #121 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 20:29:16 »
Yay, awesome!

Also, thinking about it a tad more, I'm concerned about the feeling being just like a top mount if the magnets are too powerful... Do you plan to propose different force of magnets? And how will you avoid the rattle between the plate and the housing if the plate has to move a little?

There is a gasket above the plate. There has been a lot of math done on the magnets/ load/ repulsion / typing forces to come up with what we believe is a good range. The prototypes will enable us to test those ranges and confirm what we have interpreted from the math


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« Reply #122 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 20:37:49 »
This is extremely interesting! The only thing I really don't like is the missing key in the top right corner.


As addressed later in the thread we are experimenting with multiple top cases so there will be other options as well.

Still aiming to receive the prototypes this month

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That looks fantastic

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« Reply #123 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 01:06:05 »
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This back case design reminds me of those Lumina LE's that we never got. :D
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« Reply #124 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 01:34:43 »
definitely going to be watching this one closely O.O
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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #125 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 03:32:53 »
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This back case design reminds me of those Lumina LE's that we never got. :D


Ugh - the memories.... Iíd kinda forgotten about just how many I was owed...


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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #126 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 03:59:29 »
I'd like to suggest a rotary dial on the top right, instead of the blocker, or another button.

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« Reply #127 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 04:06:31 »
Ugh - the memories.... Iíd kinda forgotten about just how many I was owed...


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Tbh I think this case back looks much nicer too.
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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #128 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 04:47:14 »
Yay, awesome!

Also, thinking about it a tad more, I'm concerned about the feeling being just like a top mount if the magnets are too powerful... Do you plan to propose different force of magnets? And how will you avoid the rattle between the plate and the housing if the plate has to move a little?

There is a gasket above the plate. There has been a lot of math done on the magnets/ load/ repulsion / typing forces to come up with what we believe is a good range. The prototypes will enable us to test those ranges and confirm what we have interpreted from the math


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it's not the above the plate that concerns me, I read about the gasket, but rather on its sides
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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65%
« Reply #129 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 05:19:10 »
This looks super interesting!  would love to get in on this when the GB goes live

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65% - Prototypes in Production
« Reply #130 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 10:17:30 »
Yay, awesome!

Also, thinking about it a tad more, I'm concerned about the feeling being just like a top mount if the magnets are too powerful... Do you plan to propose different force of magnets? And how will you avoid the rattle between the plate and the housing if the plate has to move a little?

There is a gasket above the plate. There has been a lot of math done on the magnets/ load/ repulsion / typing forces to come up with what we believe is a good range. The prototypes will enable us to test those ranges and confirm what we have interpreted from the math


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it's not the above the plate that concerns me, I read about the gasket, but rather on its sides


Shouldnít be an issue with our implementation - but the proto will confirm that.

It wonít be a quiet board tho I donít think :)


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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65% - Prototypes in Production
« Reply #131 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 13:24:38 »
Very interesting concept for the plate.  Watching with interest.
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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65% - Prototypes in Production
« Reply #132 on: Thu, 19 March 2020, 05:13:35 »
Can I just send you my credit card information now? Lol. Iím definitely in for this. I was hoping to create something similar with a maglev mount not too long ago, but it only transpired in my drawings and ideas. Didnít have the time to devote to it, and didnít really know where to start.

Super excited to see the prototype, and really hope to get one of these for myself.


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« Reply #133 on: Thu, 19 March 2020, 06:33:49 »
Interested in it!

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65% - Prototypes in Production
« Reply #134 on: Sat, 28 March 2020, 13:20:35 »
Some more prototype images on my insta for anyone interested:


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Board should be here this coming week as itís currently sat in customs.


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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65% - Prototypes in Production
« Reply #135 on: Sat, 28 March 2020, 14:52:08 »
This looks amazing! Ill def try to snatch one if I don't miss the GB!! Good luck with the prototypes

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« Reply #136 on: Wed, 29 April 2020, 23:23:02 »
Any updates on this? We're you able to test the magnets and PCB?

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65% - Prototypes in Production
« Reply #137 on: Wed, 29 April 2020, 23:35:07 »
Iím interested in this board. Hope thereís more updates!

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65% - Prototypes in Production
« Reply #138 on: Thu, 30 April 2020, 03:18:33 »
Hey folks - small update.

Got the proto's in, and both Flex and I have used and had a play with them. We are both really excited about the way it works, but the prototypes did highlight some things with the design that we want to fix.

Right now we have a revised Proto being made to test the changes - after all, this is why we prototype! Once those are approved, Salvun will be machining the final pre-production model which is where you folks may see a Build stream or two :D

You can see some of the proto pictures here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-KX0jUn-3H/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-R52aEn-hj/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-XMp88nzuf/

As always, updates will be on my Discord: https://discord.gg/qm944aC     & Flex's discord:   https://discord.gg/KRAuQRc

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65% - Prototypes in Production
« Reply #139 on: Thu, 30 April 2020, 17:33:39 »
Hey folks - small update.

Got the proto's in, and both Flex and I have used and had a play with them. We are both really excited about the way it works, but the prototypes did highlight some things with the design that we want to fix.

Right now we have a revised Proto being made to test the changes - after all, this is why we prototype! Once those are approved, Salvun will be machining the final pre-production model which is where you folks may see a Build stream or two :D

You can see some of the proto pictures here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-KX0jUn-3H/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-R52aEn-hj/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-XMp88nzuf/

As always, updates will be on my Discord: https://discord.gg/qm944aC     & Flex's discord:   https://discord.gg/KRAuQRc

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Re: [IC] Lodestone - a Gasket and MagLev mount 65% - Prototypes in Production
« Reply #140 on: Thu, 30 April 2020, 19:37:33 »
Hey folks - small update.

Got the proto's in, and both Flex and I have used and had a play with them. We are both really excited about the way it works, but the prototypes did highlight some things with the design that we want to fix.

Right now we have a revised Proto being made to test the changes - after all, this is why we prototype! Once those are approved, Salvun will be machining the final pre-production model which is where you folks may see a Build stream or two :D

You can see some of the proto pictures here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-KX0jUn-3H/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-R52aEn-hj/
https://www.instagram.com/p/B-XMp88nzuf/

As always, updates will be on my Discord: https://discord.gg/qm944aC     & Flex's discord:   https://discord.gg/KRAuQRc

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Can't wait for pending updates. Renders look incredible.

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Any hotswap options?

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Looks super interesting to me

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Cannot wait to see/hear this. Really great work innovating guys. Really excited to see how the grows.

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Still waiting on the revised prototype atm folks. I did hear from the factory yesterday and they are hoping to ship this week


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Do you plan to have vendors in EU?

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Is there going to be any shielding that stops the field from extending outside the case? Whilst unlikely to be harmful to anything, it might be annoying to have random things like pen lids or paperclips stick to the casing. Overall probably just a quirk and not a big deal.
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Will there be any hot swap option?

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Do you plan to have vendors in EU?


For the first round at the very least Iíll be the only vendor. I am based in the EU.


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