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Offline snurrebassen

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #100 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 04:19:03 »
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.
As a split spacebar user, is this the most common layout? I'd rather not end up having a PCB full of holes, but I do want to include split spacebar users, but hopefully try to only stick to one version of it, hopefully the one most commonly used/requested. I could swap them around in that case.

I get that users of split spacebar layouts already are pretty particular about their setup and tend to have small variations to tailor their exact style of typing, so it's hard to find a good balance between including a variety of layouts but at the same time maintaining the integrity of the original board. Hopefully I won't alienate too many possible buyers!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #101 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 11:57:20 »
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.
As a split spacebar user, is this the most common layout? I'd rather not end up having a PCB full of holes, but I do want to include split spacebar users, but hopefully try to only stick to one version of it, hopefully the one most commonly used/requested. I could swap them around in that case.

I get that users of split spacebar layouts already are pretty particular about their setup and tend to have small variations to tailor their exact style of typing, so it's hard to find a good balance between including a variety of layouts but at the same time maintaining the integrity of the original board. Hopefully I won't alienate too many possible buyers!
I would also prefer 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75

Offline 1corazon

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #102 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 20:45:12 »
Just a question,

Can we have the USB connection to the far left of the back case and not in the middle ?

Is this possible ?  Would love to see the USB connection to back but left hand side.

Kind regards

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #103 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 20:55:58 »
Just a question,

Can we have the USB connection to the far left of the back case and not in the middle ?

Is this possible ?  Would love to see the USB connection to back but left hand side.

Kind regards

Why? Out of curiosity? Is this because it would work better for your setup or because youd like the board to be cheaper by placing the connector on the main pcb rather than a daughter board?

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #104 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 21:01:27 »
Hi,

It more for aesthetic reasons,  i feel more comfortable with the USB on the left hand side and not in the middle.

If it makes for the board to be cheaper thats even better but i don't mind if the additional cost goes to the maker of the board.


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #105 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 00:11:00 »
This board is clean af! What price range are you aiming for?



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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #106 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 01:38:10 »
Hi,

It more for aesthetic reasons,  i feel more comfortable with the USB on the left hand side and not in the middle.

If it makes for the board to be cheaper thats even better but i don't mind if the additional cost goes to the maker of the board.

The main reason for doing a daughterboard is to make the USB port tighter and more tailored to the case. Having an on board USB port is cheaper and simpler in production, but limited in terms of fitting the case! Personally I really like the look of the cable being centered but it would definitely be interesting to try having a slightly off centered port, like the good old IBMs  :-\

Thanks for bringing it up!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #107 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 01:39:20 »
This board is clean af! What price range are you aiming for?

$300-400 is what I'm hoping for! Currently quoting it from one factory, but will check out another one to compare!


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #108 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 04:09:52 »
This board is clean af! What price range are you aiming for?

$300-400 is what I'm hoping for! Currently quoting it from one factory, but will check out another one to compare!

$300-350 would be perfect. We'll see  :thumb:
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #109 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 10:16:09 »
Is there any chance you could add the capability to use 2.25 - 1.25 - 2.75 split space, as well as the current 2.75 - 1.25 - 2.25 split? I prefer having the larger key on the right as I basically only use my right thumb to hit space.
As a split spacebar user, is this the most common layout? I'd rather not end up having a PCB full of holes, but I do want to include split spacebar users, but hopefully try to only stick to one version of it, hopefully the one most commonly used/requested. I could swap them around in that case.

I get that users of split spacebar layouts already are pretty particular about their setup and tend to have small variations to tailor their exact style of typing, so it's hard to find a good balance between including a variety of layouts but at the same time maintaining the integrity of the original board. Hopefully I won't alienate too many possible buyers!

I can't speak definitively, but I think it's generally a 50/50 split! I searched for "split spacebar GMK" on google images and didn't see a clear winner for either way.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #110 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 00:03:54 »
I hear a lot of people that say this layout is efficient compared to others, but I'm someone who likes the arrow keys separated from the rest of the board. I'm in for one of these for sure.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #111 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 02:56:40 »
I have very high hopes in this board, could be my second end game (after Novatouched Realforce).
It keeps TKL layout, when cutting the size of it to minimum without moving any of the clusters.
Then materials, height, angle. It all going in a very good direction. If it gets rgb leds and maybe even hotswap, it will be a perfection.
If it comes to name/badge - I wouldn't put it on top, I would go with back of it, or bottom.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #112 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 03:46:37 »
I have very high hopes in this board, could be my second end game (after Novatouched Realforce).
It keeps TKL layout, when cutting the size of it to minimum without moving any of the clusters.
Then materials, height, angle. It all going in a very good direction. If it gets rgb leds and maybe even hotswap, it will be a perfection.
If it comes to name/badge - I wouldn't put it on top, I would go with back of it, or bottom.

Thank you, I'm glad to hear this!
Hotswap ANSI and ISO will most likely be done. We're considering adding RGB, depending on demand. I think we will do a separate PCB form just to collect general data for the full production of the PCBs.

In terms of logo engraving on the top, I will try to make it an option, same as the weight :)  Some people seem to want a clean top and I totally understand that!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #113 on: Thu, 05 March 2020, 07:34:45 »
Hotswap ANSI and ISO will most likely be done. We're considering adding RGB, depending on demand. I think we will do a separate PCB form just to collect general data for the full production of the PCBs.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #114 on: Fri, 06 March 2020, 00:05:40 »
very interesting design. looking forward to seeing how it turns out!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #115 on: Fri, 06 March 2020, 03:19:59 »
Great design and thank you for ISO.  I would be in for this cute little board if it runs.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #116 on: Fri, 06 March 2020, 06:15:16 »
Hotswap ANSI and ISO will most likely be done. We're considering adding RGB, depending on demand. I think we will do a separate PCB form just to collect general data for the full production of the PCBs.
Great!  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #117 on: Sat, 07 March 2020, 00:38:06 »
Rgb is nice with hot swap.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #118 on: Sat, 07 March 2020, 13:31:23 »
OK, everybody likes, so.. let's do this now! :)
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #119 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 02:22:19 »
So finally, I feel I've landed on a final design and look. I've experimented with various logo designs on various places on the case and weight, and landed on having a clean looking front and a diagram logo of an eclipse on the weight, which have moved to the outside of the bottom, with screws on the inside, keeping the clean look.

The weight will be optional, if you prefer a clean outside.



The layouts available (additional to standard ANSI) are:

ISO


WKL


Tsangan


Split Spacebar


Split Backspace


If all goes well, I will be starting the prototyping this week. Stay tuned  :)


Offline Erigorin

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #120 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 02:40:45 »
It looks like there is a small difference between the models used for the renders, they keycaps are positioned differently per layout.

ISO a bit lower and to the right
WKL & Tsangan are the same
Split spacebar a lot lower
Split backspace a bit lower

But besides this, I really like the improved design! Love the new rubber feet strips!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #121 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 03:14:23 »
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #122 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:20:17 »
Looks great! Definitely like the new eclipse engraving on the weight, and the rubber feet strips. Can't wait :)

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #123 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:41:43 »
Tsangan is my choice:)

Can we have a side rendering? So we could see the whole profile.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #124 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:13:42 »
ISO to go please and a side order of SA Sail to pop on top.  Noice.
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #125 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 07:20:00 »
Some side renders  :)






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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #126 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:36:30 »
Looks awesome! Thanks for listening to my rant about using rubber strips!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #127 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:39:53 »
Day 1 buy for me! Those new renders look amazing


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #128 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 14:01:07 »
I like this keyboard.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #129 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 15:45:34 »
This is a layout that I could see myself using, especially with a split backspace. I would prefer an external weight over an internal one, though.

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« Reply #130 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 15:53:53 »
This is a layout that I could see myself using, especially with a split backspace. I would prefer an external weight over an internal one, though.
It is on the outside of the bottom. Post is a couple up.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #131 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 19:15:47 »
This is a layout that I could see myself using, especially with a split backspace. I would prefer an external weight over an internal one, though.
It is on the outside of the bottom. Post is a couple up.

Right, my bad for missing that. Good to hear, thanks!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #132 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 14:45:54 »
Any decisions made on colors?

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #133 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 15:56:33 »
I was hoping against hope that if WKL was an option that HHKB-style blockers would make the cut too :( Oh well. Still looks really good.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #134 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 17:22:19 »
I was hoping against hope that if WKL was an option that HHKB-style blockers would make the cut too :( Oh well. Still looks really good.

Might be just me, but I think HHKB blockers would look weird on this kind of layout.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 17:30:40 »
looks ok. take a look at the duck blackbird.

I was hoping against hope that if WKL was an option that HHKB-style blockers would make the cut too :( Oh well. Still looks really good.

Might be just me, but I think HHKB blockers would look weird on this kind of layout.


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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #136 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 17:50:53 »
looks ok. take a look at the duck blackbird.

Yeah, it came to mind. I don't like it :D

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #137 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 18:04:37 »
:eyes:
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #138 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 19:07:55 »
Oh crap. Didn't realize HHKB might have been an option. I would have probably gone that route on this.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #139 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 23:28:24 »
I'm ok with it either way but wouldn't a strip going horizontally be better than vertically? It just seems like it would make a better typing feel knowing its level. I know that Rama is already doing that for his boards, but I don't think it should matter honestly. The difference it makes is probably negligible, but just thought I'd throw it out there.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #140 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 02:26:19 »
I am also curious about doing the strips in the other direction. Ive always seen them running the length of the board left to right rather than front to back. It looks like the screw holes in this design might get in the way of that though. I think having strips running front to back should still give better traction than round dots, and they will still be less likely to accidentally come off.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #141 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 05:38:53 »
I feel that the brass weight engraving reminds the underside of the Moon a tad too much :(
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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #142 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 09:11:27 »
I feel that the brass weight engraving reminds the underside of the Moon a tad too much :(

I get what you mean. There is apparently another board called Eclipse from a Korean site that someone else showed me, with the same sort of look of the logo:


https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=mechanicalkeyboard&no=466827

However, a diagram of moons and eclipses is widely used a lot because it looks pretty. It's not a specifically designed logo or includes any known trademarks and the design of this weight was done entirely inspired by pictures of eclipses, from scratch.

Hopefully the layouts available and the overall mounting design is what makes the keyboard unique, and not the name/ornaments on it!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #143 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 09:27:27 »
I feel that the brass weight engraving reminds the underside of the Moon a tad too much :(

I get what you mean. There is apparently another board called Eclipse from a Korean site that someone else showed me, with the same sort of look of the logo:

Show Image

https://gall.dcinside.com/mgallery/board/view/?id=mechanicalkeyboard&no=466827

However, a diagram of moons and eclipses is widely used a lot because it looks pretty. It's not a specifically designed logo or includes any known trademarks and the design of this weight was done entirely inspired by pictures of eclipses, from scratch.

Hopefully the layouts available and the overall mounting design is what makes the keyboard unique, and not the name/ornaments on it!
Plus yours honestly looks better than either of those imo. Lol.

That said, I'd still love to see some sun flare or moon cratering depending on which kind of eclipse it is.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #144 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 10:23:26 »
I'm definitely fine with the current iteration, this board looks good enough on its own (and has such an uncommon layout) that it doesn't need a highly visible logo or anything to stand out. I just want it in time for GMK Apollo  ;D

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #145 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 11:59:45 »
Nice, I like the design a lot.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #146 on: Thu, 12 March 2020, 21:10:13 »
Nice design! Can definitely see myself getting in on this depending on the timing of the GB, big fan of this layout.

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #147 on: Mon, 16 March 2020, 17:00:01 »
I NEED THIS !!!!!!!!!!!!!  PLEASE MAKE THIS !!!!!!TAKE ALL MY MONEY !!!!

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Re: [IC] Eclipse - a "TKL" 60% Keyboard
« Reply #148 on: Mon, 16 March 2020, 19:28:48 »
Any specific plans for the gasket material at this time? Poron seems like the hot material at the moment, but I'll admit I'm not a materials engineer and don't fully understand it.

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« Reply #149 on: Tue, 17 March 2020, 05:34:26 »
I like this.