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[GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 02:33:22 »
GB Lyra Keyboard



GB is unlimited, MOQ is 50.
There will only ever be one run.
















More information about Lyra:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=104550.0


Design Features

• 7075 aluminum CNC-machined enclosure
• Weight ~ 810 g (28.6 oz)
• Size 338,5 × 104 × 27 mm (13.3 × 4 × 1.1 inch)
• Universal design, accommodates Alpha and Beta PCBs
• 6° typing angle
• Cerakote
• Alpha or Beta hot-swap PCB (USB Type C connector)
• One RGB LED
• Fully programmable (supports QMK)
• Controller parts, diodes, resistors and hot-swap soket are pre-soldered
• 1.5 mm Black POM plate (only PCB-mounted stabilizer)
• 6.25U off-center spacebar
• M2 screws
• Recessed depression on bottom of case for rubber bumpers (rubber bumpers will be included)


Layout

Alpha 58/62 MX Hot-swap PCB








Beta 58/62 MX Hot-swap PCB








Cerakote color options



• Cobalt H-112
• Blue Titanium H-185
• Polar Blue H-326
• Pink Champagne H-311
• Bright Purple H-217
• Robin’s Egg Blue H-175
• Corvette Yellow H-144


Pricing and shipping

Price (inclusive of PayPal fee):
$260 for case + PCB and black POM plate (Alpha or Beta) + fasteners
$65 for extra PCB and plate (Alpha or Beta) + fasteners

Shipping (inclusive of PayPal fee):
$37 worldwide with track (from Ukraine)

GB Starts: March 1, 2020
GB Ends: March 22, 2020

Est. shipping: July 2020. Disclaimer: shipping date subject to change.
Pre-orders are not refundable.

Order form:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1URXpD1XRUMwnJEDWFc2hf7YRDB2KPsCmof1_UC2QrjY/edit

Current numbers: 72 (21 March)
« Last Edit: Sat, 21 March 2020, 11:48:05 by alexbarb »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #1 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 11:05:21 »
approved
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Offline Serious salamander

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #2 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 11:25:27 »
In for a left handed numpad, cobalt version. So excited.

Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #3 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 11:31:56 »
glwb  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #4 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 12:05:10 »
gl :thumb:

Offline bakuretsu

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #5 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 18:19:05 »
I submitted the form, but I haven't received an email confirmation yet so I don't know if it worked. Has anyone else who submitted a form received an email confirmation yet?

Offline Serious salamander

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #6 on: Sun, 01 March 2020, 18:48:07 »
I submitted the form, but I haven't received an email confirmation yet so I don't know if it worked. Has anyone else who submitted a form received an email confirmation yet?

I haven't received a confirmation either for what it's worth.

Offline alexbarb

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 05:47:36 »
I submitted the form, but I haven't received an email confirmation yet so I don't know if it worked. Has anyone else who submitted a form received an email confirmation yet?

Everything is good. The invoices will be sent a little later. I answer mail if there are any questions

Offline Jaltr

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 06:11:05 »
Thank you for making this unlimited. Will be purchasing when I got things figured out!

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Offline bakuretsu

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 12:24:33 »
It would probably be a good idea to make posts on the MechanicalKeyboards, MechMarket, and MechGroupBuys subreddits for some extra visibility. I haven't seen any for this GB there yet.

Offline lluvia

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 19:34:25 »
Hi, sorry if this is a silly question -- If I get an extra PCB, that means I can switch between Alpha and Beta layouts?

Offline alexbarb

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 02 March 2020, 22:09:01 »
Hi, sorry if this is a silly question -- If I get an extra PCB, that means I can switch between Alpha and Beta layouts?

Yes, this can be done by replacing the PCB.

Offline kmfmppl

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 03:01:44 »
Nice. I like the layout options. Will the case be made in the Ukraine in its entirety? CNC, cerakoting etc?

Offline alexbarb

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 04:13:18 »
Nice. I like the layout options. Will the case be made in the Ukraine in its entirety? CNC, cerakoting etc?

Yes. The body will be completely made there. POM plate is most likely in Italy.

Offline d00deitsnik

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 14:14:31 »
If I wanted to make a change to my order, would PMing you on discord be the easiest?

Offline bakuretsu

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 15:03:48 »
I'm debating getting a Taro set to go with the yellow version of this. Haven't bought a GMK set yet, but I think that color palette would look really good with a yellow case. Opinions?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #16 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 17:20:19 »
I'm debating getting a Taro set to go with the yellow version of this. Haven't bought a GMK set yet, but I think that color palette would look really good with a yellow case. Opinions?
I think it'll look v nice imo, but all up to you in the end.

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Offline bakuretsu

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #17 on: Tue, 03 March 2020, 21:29:20 »
Would it be possible to add renders of the all the available color options? I think that might help people who are on the fence decide if they want to buy.
Also, it might be a good idea to show keycaps with legends instead of blank ones to eliminate confusion about the layout.

Online krikun98

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 04 March 2020, 15:09:18 »
The purple looks sweet, a bummer that green's been cancelled. I'm in, best of luck!

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #19 on: Sat, 07 March 2020, 12:39:54 »
Very interested in this but mainly in the pcb and plate.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 09:59:34 »
Isn't this a clone of TKC's Candybar?

Offline alexbarb

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 10:26:45 »
Isn't this a clone of TKC's Candybar?

There are big differences. Another idea. But CandyBar inspired me

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 10:33:59 »
Isn't this a clone of TKC's Candybar?

This is a variant of the layout similar to CandyBar. but with a different approach. And with a new design solution

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 10:56:37 »
I'm surprised. It's common to ask permission before running a clone or "inspired by" design like this - see all the Alice clones. Permission was sought and granted.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:03:32 »
I'm surprised. It's common to ask permission before running a clone or "inspired by" design like this - see all the Alice clones. Permission was sought and granted.

Have you closely watched the differences?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #25 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:09:51 »
Frankly IDGAF. It was a novel design, and you've duplicated 90%+ of it. It's not like you did another riff on a TKL.

I wonder what the reaction would be if TKC announced Infinikey Hyperfuse tomorrow...?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:11:34 »
I'm surprised. It's common to ask permission before running a clone or "inspired by" design like this - see all the Alice clones. Permission was sought and granted.

What hahaahah)) a clone of what??

Offline Serious salamander

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:17:32 »
Frankly IDGAF. It was a novel design, and you've duplicated 90%+ of it. It's not like you did another riff on a TKL.

I wonder what the reaction would be if TKC announced Infinikey Hyperfuse tomorrow...?

There’s only so many possible layouts. If people had to ask permission for every keyboard with a similar layout, it would basically be every single new keyboard. Frankly I don’t see any issues, the candy bar GB is over and even if not, you don’t have a patent on a layout. He already said he was inspired by the candybar and gave credit there, I don’t see any issue.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #28 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:32:47 »
It's an active product. The GB is still fulfilling. Extras haven't even gone up for sale yet.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #29 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:44:01 »
It's an active product. The GB is still fulfilling. Extras haven't even gone up for sale yet.
What are you trying to say?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #30 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:45:22 »
Previous poster implied that it was ok to clone Candybar since the GB is over.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #31 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:48:43 »
It is not a clone. Even if it seems to you very much

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #32 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:52:06 »
Previous poster implied that it was ok to clone Candybar since the GB is over.

Fact of the matter is there's only so many ways to design a rectangular keyboard. The layouts are the same yes, but there are many new keyboards with the same layouts but other changes.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #33 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 11:57:35 »
That is the point. There is no copying here. There is another option in the same format. I see no problems) a lot of things can be discussed in what I did

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #34 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:10:39 »
Previous poster implied that it was ok to clone Candybar since the GB is over.

I don’t have anything TKC they are cool guys) but as I understand it, you are cooperating with them ... and if it’s really true, I would like to find out from whom they asked for permission or buy a patent... on OG 1800 cherry ... on m0116 ... on SSK ... these are 1 in 1 copied keyboards ..... BUT I know personally and for a long time this is a person and Lyra I saw a long time ago as a project..... just calm down)
« Last Edit: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:16:55 by SantiGo »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #35 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:16:41 »
I'm surprised. It's common to ask permission before running a clone or "inspired by" design like this - see all the Alice clones. Permission was sought and granted.

So because a 40% with a numpad exists, it's not ok to design another one? No one has to get permission from the designer of the first 40%, 60%, 65%, 1800, etc. in order to design a new one of those.

Besides, the case design is different, the mounting points are different, the spacebar layout options are different, there's an indicator LED, the color options are different, it's Cerakoted instead of anodized, and even the aluminum alloy the case is made of is different.

It's ok to have options in the market. The layout the Candybar uses isn't patented, and this keyboard isn't a clone of that anyway.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #36 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:18:31 »
I'm surprised. It's common to ask permission before running a clone or "inspired by" design like this - see all the Alice clones. Permission was sought and granted.

So because a 40% with a numpad exists, it's not ok to design another one? No one has to get permission from the designer of the first 40%, 60%, 65%, 1800, etc. in order to design a new one of those.

Besides, the case design is different, the mounting points are different, the spacebar layout options are different, there's an indicator LED, the color options are different, it's Cerakoted instead of anodized, and even the aluminum alloy the case is made of is different.

It's ok to have options in the market. The layout the Candybar uses isn't patented, and this keyboard isn't a clone of that anyway.

A much more elegant version of what I was trying to say haha.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #37 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:29:58 »
I'm surprised. It's common to ask permission before running a clone or "inspired by" design like this - see all the Alice clones. Permission was sought and granted.

So because a 40% with a numpad exists, it's not ok to design another one? No one has to get permission from the designer of the first 40%, 60%, 65%, 1800, etc. in order to design a new one of those.

Besides, the case design is different, the mounting points are different, the spacebar layout options are different, there's an indicator LED, the color options are different, it's Cerakoted instead of anodized, and even the aluminum alloy the case is made of is different.

It's ok to have options in the market. The layout the Candybar uses isn't patented, and this keyboard isn't a clone of that anyway.

Even the layout is not a clone. It's right

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #38 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:41:54 »
Frankly IDGAF. It was a novel design, and you've duplicated 90%+ of it. It's not like you did another riff on a TKL.

I wonder what the reaction would be if TKC announced Infinikey Hyperfuse tomorrow...?
Bruh, did you even look at the IC? Don't come here with that attitude of "idgaf". Inspiration is inspiration. If TKC had a problem, wouldn't they have contacted when the IC was up? Not now, when the GB is running.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #39 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:45:29 »
Previous poster implied that it was ok to clone Candybar since the GB is over.

I don’t have anything TKC they are cool guys) but as I understand it, you are cooperating with them ... and if it’s really true, I would like to find out from whom they asked for permission or buy a patent... on OG 1800 cherry ... on m0116 ... on SSK ... these are 1 in 1 copied keyboards ..... BUT I know personally and for a long time this is a person and Lyra I saw a long time ago as a project..... just calm down)

Those boards date back to the 80s and TKC is based in the US. If they were patented, the patents expired after 20 years.

Funny how the goalposts moved from right to legal in short order. I never once said it was illegal for you to do what you are doing. Just that it's not right.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:46:57 »
Frankly IDGAF. It was a novel design, and you've duplicated 90%+ of it. It's not like you did another riff on a TKL.

I wonder what the reaction would be if TKC announced Infinikey Hyperfuse tomorrow...?
Bruh, did you even look at the IC? Don't come here with that attitude of "idgaf". Inspiration is inspiration. If TKC had a problem, wouldn't they have contacted when the IC was up? Not now, when the GB is running.

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Offline lluvia

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #41 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 12:55:34 »
Sorry for another noob question.
There is no layout that would allow me for a standard 2.25u Enter/Return key?

Offline Serious salamander

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #42 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:01:43 »
Frankly IDGAF. It was a novel design, and you've duplicated 90%+ of it. It's not like you did another riff on a TKL.

I wonder what the reaction would be if TKC announced Infinikey Hyperfuse tomorrow...?
Bruh, did you even look at the IC? Don't come here with that attitude of "idgaf". Inspiration is inspiration. If TKC had a problem, wouldn't they have contacted when the IC was up? Not now, when the GB is running.

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We became aware of it this morning.


I like your company and products, don't get me wrong, but I disagree with your notion that someone using the same layout as one of your group buys should ask your permission first. I have no way of checking, but I'm willing to bet you were not the first person/group to think of a 40% keyboard with a numpad.

There are substantial differences in this keyboard and your own, I don't think every single new keyboard design should have to "ask" permission from other keyboard designers just for using the same layout.
« Last Edit: Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:06:02 by Serious salamander »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:09:15 »
Can we stop fighting and get proper renders for the different colors + keycap layouts instead? lol

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:11:09 »
Can we stop fighting and get proper renders for the different colors + keycap layouts instead? lol

I'd agree, also if OP is willing to share, I'd love to know if the MOQ is close to being met.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:25:05 »
Can we stop fighting and get proper renders for the different colors + keycap layouts instead? lol

I'd agree, also if OP is willing to share, I'd love to know if the MOQ is close to being met.

It can be seen

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 13:33:18 »
Sorry if this comes across as mean-spirited, but I thought this quote from Terry on the TKC "about us" page was funny in light of this thread:


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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 14:10:58 »
Sorry if this comes across as mean-spirited, but I thought this quote from Terry on the TKC "about us" page was funny in light of this thread:

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Not sure I see the humor. Cloning is the opposite of diversity.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #48 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 14:21:35 »
Have you bothered to read IC? Everything is detailed there. You try to attach my layout to the CandyBar. Share what happened. Good luck)
« Last Edit: Sun, 08 March 2020, 14:33:33 by alexbarb »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #49 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 14:34:11 »
I think it's best if we stick to the topic at hand, which is this group buy.

Obviously, TKC is allowed to believe that they should have been asked for permission, that is their right. However, it is irrelevant to this group buy and we should try to stay on topic. I believe some people had requested renders of the proposed colors if possible.

Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #50 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 17:13:48 »
Sorry if this comes across as mean-spirited, but I thought this quote from Terry on the TKC "about us" page was funny in light of this thread:

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Not sure I see the humor. Cloning is the opposite of diversity.

It's not a clone. The layout has optional additional vertical alpha row which is the key point of the design: it allows those unfortunate ones having more than 26 letters in their's native alphabet to get every letter on the first layer on a 40%sh layout. And this does matter: imagine having z or x on a second layer.

Lyra has different layout options, different case design, different mount, finish, plate material, you name it. It won't be possible to use Lyra parts (PCB and plate) with Candybar case and vise versa: they are not compatible as they are different boards, having similar, but not identical layouts. Heck, Lyra is even more pricey than Candybar during the GB.
I don't remeber anyone fighting over HHKB 7U layout and I really doubt anyone pays PFU for using HHKB name to promote their designs.

This is a small time amateur enthusiast GB, Candybar was run by a seasoned company: what, you are afraid of competition?
Patent this layout to prevent future hickups like this, but if you didn't yet -- just stop whining and keep going further.

« Last Edit: Sun, 08 March 2020, 18:20:58 by FearsomeCubedWarrior »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #51 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 18:11:19 »
Sorry if this comes across as mean-spirited, but I thought this quote from Terry on the TKC "about us" page was funny in light of this thread:

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Not sure I see the humor. Cloning is the opposite of diversity.

Why are you so bitter? This is a really bad look for you. You should be happy someone said they were inspired by your design. Why would they need permission from you to do design a different keyboard?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #52 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 19:32:05 »
Not to be one to call people out, but did either of you talk to:

PyrooL: https://github.com/PyrooL/smallpaw
BubaThePig: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/95qxa0/made_my_first_keeb/
The creator of the GNAP 4x4 + 4x4: http://www.40percent.club/2018/05/gnap-4x4-4x4.html?m=1
Hisfantor: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4zdnpk/an_idea_of_a_40_board_with_numpad/

Or anyone else who had this idea long before Candybar or Lyra?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #53 on: Sun, 08 March 2020, 21:38:57 »
While I love TKC, and they may feel justified in believing that someone should have checked with them, this is by no means a novel design. Also, as others have already pointed out, neither the layout nor the case are identical.

The idea of a 40% + numpad layout has been discussed in the past: https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/4zdnpk/an_idea_of_a_40_board_with_numpad/

And the general concept existed in various forms long before:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicalKeyboards/comments/6hxcy3/40numpad_before_it_was_cool/

I think it's time to move on.



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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #54 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 02:34:36 »
Sorry if this comes across as mean-spirited, but I thought this quote from Terry on the TKC "about us" page was funny in light of this thread:

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Not sure I see the humor. Cloning is the opposite of diversity.


LOL I sure hope this TerryMatthews clown isn't affiliated with TKC, because this is not a good look.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 04:47:34 »
oh my god, how can you be so tone deaf, the dude made a keyboard because candybar doesn't support his own language well (not enough alphas) and had to ask permission? Even though he "copied" only the general idea and credited the candybar as inspiration? literally anything else was made from scratch, unbelievable

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 05:13:42 »
oh my god, how can you be so tone deaf, the dude made a keyboard because candybar doesn't support his own language well (not enough alphas) and had to ask permission? Even though he "copied" only the general idea and credited the candybar as inspiration? literally anything else was made from scratch, unbelievable

Candybar also has an additional vertical row for numpad mods.

Edit: Looks like I hadn't even considered some of the possible layouts, heh.
« Last Edit: Mon, 09 March 2020, 05:29:12 by E-ant »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:14:58 »
Looks like someone is insecure in their own product.
"Extras haven't even gone up yet", they're more concerned that your board is better and more attractive and therefore will impact sales, than he is upset that "you didn't ask for permission". :)

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #58 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:49:37 »
Looks like someone is insecure in their own product.
"Extras haven't even gone up yet", they're more concerned that your board is better and more attractive and therefore will impact sales, than he is upset that "you didn't ask for permission". :)

If he is indeed representative of TKC, this ridiculous stance of believing they "own" the 40%+num pad layout and others should ask permission from them to use the layout has affected my interest in their extras and their other products far more than anything else.

Edit:
MOQ looks like it has been reached, I'm super excited for this board.
« Last Edit: Mon, 09 March 2020, 06:56:09 by Serious salamander »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 09:28:47 »
this is like nestle accusing hershey of making a candybar that's like theirs

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:17:51 »
this is like nestle accusing hershey of making a candybar that's like theirs

I suggested overlaying any of my layouts and finding a match ) Did not receive a response
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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #61 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 10:37:06 »
Looks like you all are evil cloners of a project from 2013:eek:  (a project which was itself inspired by another project - hmm, I'm noticing a pattern here...)

It started out as a crazy idea in IRC to build a 40% keyboard with a tenkey. However though the information in this thread ( http://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=40567.0 ) I decided to attempt to build said keyboard. I would like to give a shoutout to CPTBadAss for helping me with this project so far and Flip for naming it. Also metalliqaz for inspiring me with his awesome Epsilon case design.  I thought I would share my progress here.
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Planned layout
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Plate just cut on CNC mill
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Switches and standoffs installed
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Keycaps on
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Lots of soldering to do!
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Backplate and feet attached
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Teensy attached to backplate

Left to do:
-Wire up the matrix/ solder switches
-Program the Teensy

Terry, I suggest focusing your efforts on something more fruitful than calling people out for things that your own company has done.  As you're seeing here, that's a surefire way to direct the sleuthing power of the internet right back in your face, which rarely ends favorably.  ;)  Take the kudos and praise from your fans and put that energy into making something even better (which yet more people will take inspiration from :-* ). 

Now all of you get off my lawn and get back to talking about this GB!

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #62 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 11:18:12 »
Looks like you all are evil cloners of a project from 2013:eek:  (a project which was itself inspired by another project - hmm, I'm noticing a pattern here...)

Yes, all ideas are on the surface) I am exclusively for the world and for everyone to choose what is interesting to him. There was a desire to implement ideas that I did not see in other projects

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #63 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 12:46:09 »
If i manage to get some funds by the end I'll try to join, to many good buys this month! Good luck! i've been lurking over this design for a while :)


Mod Edit: Removed portion of comment which only perpetuates off-topic discussion.
« Last Edit: Mon, 09 March 2020, 14:51:28 by HoffmanMyster »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #64 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 15:02:25 »
Hi Alexbarb

I've registered for this GB last week but haven't received any email confirmation yet.
Is this normal/when are we supposed to receive email?

I don't want to re-register as it might give you wrong total order amount.... Thanks

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #65 on: Mon, 09 March 2020, 22:24:52 »
Hi Alexbarb

I've registered for this GB last week but haven't received any email confirmation yet.
Is this normal/when are we supposed to receive email?

I don't want to re-register as it might give you wrong total order amount.... Thanks

Hi! I reply to the mail if you have left a question. Until March 22, everyone will receive an invoice, or an approximate date when I send it

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #66 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 02:23:01 »
Hi Alexbarb

I've registered for this GB last week but haven't received any email confirmation yet.
Is this normal/when are we supposed to receive email?

I don't want to re-register as it might give you wrong total order amount.... Thanks

Hi! I reply to the mail if you have left a question. Until March 22, everyone will receive an invoice, or an approximate date when I send it

Okay then. I just want to make sure my order is recorded, so it would be good/reassuring to have the email confirmation ie saying order received, invoice will be send after 22nd March or something like that....

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #67 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 09:18:26 »
I'm actually quite interested in this. Are there any renders of the multiple color choices for this board? Only ones I've seen so far are the all black renders.

Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #68 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 10:13:06 »
I'm actually quite interested in this. Are there any renders of the multiple color choices for this board? Only ones I've seen so far are the all black renders.

There are no renders at all. These are pictures of prototype.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #69 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 14:38:15 »
Hi Alexbarb

I've registered for this GB last week but haven't received any email confirmation yet.
Is this normal/when are we supposed to receive email?

I don't want to re-register as it might give you wrong total order amount.... Thanks

Hi! I reply to the mail if you have left a question. Until March 22, everyone will receive an invoice, or an approximate date when I send it

Alexbarb,

Confirmation emails are standard practice for online purchases. I understand that you will respond to people's questions by email, but multiple people have already been confused by the lack of a confirmation email.

To make sure everyone who submits an order form is confident that their order was received, I think you should make sure they receive a confirmation email soon after submitting their form. If we don't know that our order went through until receiving an invoice after the GB period ends, some of us will be worried.

I'm sure confirmation emails are built in to Google Forms anyway, so you shouldn't have to do any extra work aside from enabling the feature.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #70 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 15:10:57 »
I'm actually quite interested in this. Are there any renders of the multiple color choices for this board? Only ones I've seen so far are the all black renders.

If you google the colourway you can see the exact colours of each colours as they are standard cerakote colours. The yellow one really pops.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #71 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 20:50:20 »
Hi Alexbarb

I've registered for this GB last week but haven't received any email confirmation yet.
Is this normal/when are we supposed to receive email?

I don't want to re-register as it might give you wrong total order amount.... Thanks

Hi! I reply to the mail if you have left a question. Until March 22, everyone will receive an invoice, or an approximate date when I send it

Alexbarb,

Confirmation emails are standard practice for online purchases. I understand that you will respond to people's questions by email, but multiple people have already been confused by the lack of a confirmation email.

To make sure everyone who submits an order form is confident that their order was received, I think you should make sure they receive a confirmation email soon after submitting their form. If we don't know that our order went through until receiving an invoice after the GB period ends, some of us will be worried.

I'm sure confirmation emails are built in to Google Forms anyway, so you shouldn't have to do any extra work aside from enabling the feature.

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« Last Edit: Tue, 10 March 2020, 21:00:50 by alexbarb »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #72 on: Tue, 10 March 2020, 21:55:09 »
I suppose only those ordering from this point onwards will receive the confirmation email, not prior one?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #73 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 03:59:06 »
I suppose only those ordering from this point onwards will receive the confirmation email, not prior one?

Yes, to everyone who filled out until this day, I personally will write this week

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #74 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 06:07:08 »
I suppose only those ordering from this point onwards will receive the confirmation email, not prior one?

Yes, to everyone who filled out until this day, I personally will write this week

Sounds good man. Will prevent people trying to order again too, Thinking it didn't go through


Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #76 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 07:31:14 »
It seems that the issue with Cerakote is that it's appearance due to structure largely depends on light and application method.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #77 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 07:53:00 »
It seems that the issue with Cerakote is that it's appearance due to structure largely depends on light and application method.
I looked up the samples on each colouring based on these links:

Cobalt H112:
https://www.cerakote.com/project-gallery?htids=Cobalt%20H-112

Blue Titanium H-185:
https://www.cerakote.com/project-gallery?htids=Blue%20Titanium%20H-185

Polar Blue H-326:
https://www.cerakote.com/project-gallery?htids=POLAR%20BLUE%20H-326

Pink Champagne H-311:
https://www.cerakote.com/project-gallery?htids=PINK%20CHAMPAGNE%20H-311

Bright Purple H-217:
https://www.cerakote.com/project-gallery?htids=Bright%20Purple%20H-217

Robin’s Egg Blue H-175:
https://www.cerakote.com/project-gallery?htids=Robin%27s%20Egg%20Blue%20H-175

Corvette Yellow H-144:
https://www.cerakote.com/project-gallery?htids=Corvette%20Yellow%20H-144



Please note that in the gallery they have amateur pictures. That's why they look so different. The truth is somewhere in the middle or on the product page

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #78 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 13:47:02 »
Hmm, now of course I would like to change the colour choice.... Is it better to arrange the change by email or make another order ignoring the first one?

Thanks!

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #79 on: Wed, 11 March 2020, 19:52:20 »
Write better on e-mail

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 13 March 2020, 20:31:37 »
What type of plate is POM plate? Not familiar with this

Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #81 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 00:13:54 »
What type of plate is POM plate? Not familiar with this
It's made of POM obviously. AFAIK, no separate plates have been made from this material, but entire keyboards, like Sirius were.
« Last Edit: Sat, 14 March 2020, 00:18:45 by FearsomeCubedWarrior »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #82 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 00:32:42 »
What type of plate is POM plate? Not familiar with this
It's made of POM obviously. AFAIK, no separate plates have been made from this material, but entire keyboards, like Sirius were.

Interesting choice for plate. I wonder how this would feel compared to the usual materials. Can't wait to have this.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #83 on: Sat, 14 March 2020, 14:31:34 »
Will there be standoffs between the PCB and the plate? To keep the PCB from flexing away from the plate when installing switches.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #84 on: Sun, 15 March 2020, 23:27:37 »
Will there be standoffs between the PCB and the plate? To keep the PCB from flexing away from the plate when installing switches.

Yes they will. I attached renderings of the PCB. It is made 10 places

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #85 on: Mon, 16 March 2020, 05:02:32 »
Just checking, I haven't got the confirmation email yet.... Should I reorder?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #86 on: Mon, 16 March 2020, 05:09:51 »
Just checking, I haven't got the confirmation email yet.... Should I reorder?

Do not worry. Invoice coming soon

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #87 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 07:42:19 »
Just checking, I haven't got the confirmation email yet.... Should I reorder?

Do not worry. Invoice coming soon

Paid my invoice. Looking forward to July!

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #88 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 10:54:51 »
Submitted form, just waiting for invoice  :cool:

Really excited about this board

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #89 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 16:40:46 »
Might be stupid question but on beta layout where it has arrows on bottom right corner, we can still use 6.25 space bar right?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #90 on: Wed, 18 March 2020, 20:05:04 »
Might be stupid question but on beta layout where it has arrows on bottom right corner, we can still use 6.25 space bar right?

Absolutely right

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #91 on: Thu, 19 March 2020, 18:10:21 »
How long do invoices usually take? Don't want to miss out!

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #92 on: Thu, 19 March 2020, 22:00:55 »
How long do invoices usually take? Don't want to miss out!

Until the end of GB you will receive an invoice or the date when it will be sent

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #93 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 15:13:02 »
Just got the new invoice through SantiGo. It's $15 more expensive than the original invoice due to PayPal fees that weren't present the first time. Why is that?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #94 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 20:39:57 »
Just got the new invoice through SantiGo. It's $15 more expensive than the original invoice due to PayPal fees that weren't present the first time. Why is that?

Check your invoices and ask if you see a mistake. We fix it.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #95 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 22:26:17 »
Just got the new invoice through SantiGo. It's $15 more expensive than the original invoice due to PayPal fees that weren't present the first time. Why is that?

Check your invoices and ask if you see a mistake. We fix it.

There was either a mistake with the original invoice, or there's a mistake with the current one.

Original one was $362 (keyboard plus extra PCB+plate plus shipping)

Current one is $378 (keyboard plus extra PCB+plate plus shipping plus 5% PayPal fee)

I don't really mind dealing with a PayPal fee, but I'm confused because there wasn't a fee before, and there is a fee now that the invoice is being sent from your business partner.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #96 on: Fri, 20 March 2020, 23:41:10 »
There were several invoices with such an error. We are correcting. Write in PM your email.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #97 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 02:27:02 »
My paypal also now has 5% added paypal fee - just want to check whether is this correct or it shouldn't be any fee? Thanks.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #98 on: Sat, 21 March 2020, 11:46:07 »
Just got the new invoice through SantiGo. It's $15 more expensive than the original invoice due to PayPal fees that weren't present the first time. Why is that?

Check your invoices and ask if you see a mistake. We fix it.

There was either a mistake with the original invoice, or there's a mistake with the current one.

Original one was $362 (keyboard plus extra PCB+plate plus shipping)

Current one is $378 (keyboard plus extra PCB+plate plus shipping plus 5% PayPal fee)

I don't really mind dealing with a PayPal fee, but I'm confused because there wasn't a fee before, and there is a fee now that the invoice is being sent from your business partner.

My paypal also now has 5% added paypal fee - just want to check whether is this correct or it shouldn't be any fee? Thanks.

Invoices fixed.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #99 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 06:34:55 »
Hmm, I ignorantly paid the paypal fee (5% - $14.75 USD).

I guess I've overpaid then? Any chance of getting that back?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #100 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 10:16:23 »
guys read carefully the post on GH ... It was originally mentioned about 5% fee ... Alex just didn’t know how to send invoice
« Last Edit: Sun, 22 March 2020, 10:18:08 by SantiGo »

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #101 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 10:16:54 »
Hmm, I ignorantly paid the paypal fee (5% - $14.75 USD).

I guess I've overpaid then? Any chance of getting that back?

This is not an overpayment. Alex wrote that it includes + 5% paypal .. but since he had experience with PayPal, he was not the first 20 to order ... and right now they have problems ... but everyone will pay + 5% fee playpla

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #102 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 14:58:40 »
Hmm, I ignorantly paid the paypal fee (5% - $14.75 USD).

I guess I've overpaid then? Any chance of getting that back?

This is not an overpayment. Alex wrote that it includes + 5% paypal .. but since he had experience with PayPal, he was not the first 20 to order ... and right now they have problems ... but everyone will pay + 5% fee playpla

Now I'm even more confused. I received an updated invoice from you that does not include the 5% PayPal fee, but now you're saying there's supposed to be a fee. Which is it?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #103 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 19:51:52 »
He simply included the fee already in the price of the goods .. but it should be done differently since the 5% commission is automatically calculated by the paypal itself... he gave me the price already from the financial institution and I included for some lots another 5% .. that's why it happened but we are correcting the invoices .. excuse me for misunderstanding :eek: :confused: :confused:

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #104 on: Sun, 22 March 2020, 23:08:14 »
Hmm, I ignorantly paid the paypal fee (5% - $14.75 USD).

I guess I've overpaid then? Any chance of getting that back?

This is not an overpayment. Alex wrote that it includes + 5% paypal .. but since he had experience with PayPal, he was not the first 20 to order ... and right now they have problems ... but everyone will pay + 5% fee playpla

Now I'm even more confused. I received an updated invoice from you that does not include the 5% PayPal fee, but now you're saying there's supposed to be a fee. Which is it?


Write in private messages with an email address. we will solve all problems

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #105 on: Mon, 23 March 2020, 02:39:57 »
Price (inclusive of PayPal fee):
$260 for case + PCB and black POM plate (Alpha or Beta) + fasteners
$65 for extra PCB and plate (Alpha or Beta) + fasteners

Shipping (inclusive of PayPal fee):
$37 worldwide with track (from Ukraine)

If you received or settled an invoice with a fee of a large amount, inform. This will be fixed.

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #106 on: Thu, 26 March 2020, 04:52:33 »
Is the final count 72?

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #107 on: Fri, 27 March 2020, 06:40:35 »
I really annoyed I missed this, is there a waiting list or similar I could join or if you had a spare in production? Thanks in advance

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Re: [GB] Lyra Keyboard (March 1 to 22, 2020)
« Reply #108 on: Fri, 27 March 2020, 21:35:30 »
Geez, I'm also bummed I missed this. The left-hand numpad is killer.

If there's no chance of getting in now, I'd also love to get on a waitlist for any extras! 😬