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Offline tominabox1

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[GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« on: Mon, 30 March 2020, 10:05:53 »
KAT
Space Cadet
formerly Smol Cadet
A 40s Discord Community Project
by tominabox1 and Alas
Live NOW! Shipping in Fall 2020

Vendor Info
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Matching cables available at https://spacecables.net/


Details
The keyset will be in the KAT profile by Keyreative. KAT keycaps are PBT plastic, sculpted for comfort and, feature sharp, reverse dyesub legends.  The KAT Space Cadet colors will be color matched to an original Space Cadet keyboard.

The original concept of this set was to create a 40s only kit that would serve our weird-ass idea of a usable keyboard, but we quickly saw the opportunity to bring the amazing Space Cadet concept to a wider audience. Our kits are inspired by the KAT sets that have come before it, emphasizing a wide gamut of coverage, something Keyreative's KAT profile provides at an affordable price. We hope that you find exactly what you need in our kitting and can put together the best coverage you've ever had in a keyset in the lowest possible cost. 
Space Cadet for Everyone.
The Kits
More
Gray Alphas

Blue Alphas

Mono Legends

40s Mods

Ortho Mods

60%+ Mods

Spacebars

Novelties

Accents NEW

Black Mods

Numpad

Colemak, Mod DH/DHm

Dvorak

Ergo Blanks

Ergo Legends

UK ISO

French ISO

North ISO

South ISO

Hyper7
Matching cables will be available from Spacecables.net during the buy!
KITPRICE (USD)
Gray Alphas$29
Blue Alphas$29
Mono Legends$29
40s Mods$44
Ortho Mods$26
60s+ Mods$59
Spacebars$32
Novelties$30
Accents$23
Black Mods$38
Numpad$19
Colemak$35
Dvorak$29
Ergo Blanks$36
Ergo Legends$49
UK ISO$12
French ISO$25
North ISO $31
South ISO $29
Hyper7$98
Renders by Manzel





Stay tuned here for the latest info!

What can I do to help?
Wear your "KAT Space Cadet" tag on your discord servers and spread the good news!
« Last Edit: Sun, 10 May 2020, 06:42:03 by tominabox1 »

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 30 March 2020, 10:29:07 »
Were extending to May 9 to cover the Hyper7 Group Buy at mechboards.co.uk! https://groupbuys.mechboards.co.uk/shop/hyper-7-keyboard-r3/

Current Status 6 May (Thanks dvorcol!)




20 April: We've updated the kit renders and made some changes to the Ergo kit based on feedback received. Also updated the legend cases on the North ISO kit.
« Last Edit: Wed, 06 May 2020, 17:17:42 by tominabox1 »

Offline MikeTheTiger

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 31 March 2020, 14:11:30 »
Yes!!

Offline heliar_mk

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 31 March 2020, 20:00:14 »
No fonnd the GB page in zfrontier :-[

Offline Evilocity

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 31 March 2020, 20:01:50 »
I don't see the sale page on any website.

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 31 March 2020, 20:11:45 »
We're not live in the Western Hemisphere yet! Only Zfrontier Chinese site is up at this time

Offline UggNot

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 31 March 2020, 20:26:46 »
Excited for this. Im likely in but would be for sure in if there was a back tick/tilde key for the upper left corner of the ergo set.

Edit:correcting autocorrect

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 31 March 2020, 21:00:59 »
Polishing my credit card... :thumb:

Offline KingOfMemes

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 31 March 2020, 21:33:55 »
Full Colevrak alphas is a no brainer day 1 purchase

Offline sevenseacat

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #9 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 01:36:20 »
Full Colevrak alphas is a no brainer day 1 purchase

Indeed

Offline harlekein

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #10 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 02:25:39 »
In for ortho, mono legends and Colemak legends. Just waiting for MK.eu to have them up.

Offline hkiri

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #11 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 03:42:59 »
Space Cadet is love, Space Cadet is life!
First KAT Set I'm going to purchase - I hope I won't hate the profile.

Offline D3LTA

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #12 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 07:37:09 »
In for full Colemak alphas! Also, where can I find the deskmats?

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #13 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 08:17:34 »
In for full Colemak alphas! Also, where can I find the deskmats?
Good question, looking into it

Excited for this. Im likely in but would be for sure in if there was a back tick/tilde key for the upper left corner of the ergo set.

Edit:correcting autocorrect

We're looking into issues with the ergo kit. Not sure how they got by us in the IC. Hope you can join us!

Offline Abec13

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 11:08:49 »
Any chance of making the roman numerals the column novelties?
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 11:15:32 »
Copped the 60's mods and the colemak set  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:

Offline fatmcgav

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 11:19:03 »
Any ideas when EU link will be live?

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 11:20:26 »
Any ideas when EU link will be live?

Not certain. Keep an eye on it!

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 12:20:13 »
Cables are live on Space Cables! Heard back on mykeyboard.eu, they'll be on later today. Thank you for your patience!

Offline nasp

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 12:39:02 »
Any chance of making the roman numerals the column novelties?


This was brought up during the IC and I don't remember the exact response other then it isn't happening. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 15:37:07 »
Where can we purchase the deskmat at?

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 15:38:11 »
Deskmats will be listed soon, just finalizing some details on those!

Offline hammerbrotha

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 16:40:19 »
Definitely in for this.

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 18:32:04 »
Mykeyboard.eu is currently adding kits to their order pages!

https://mykeyboard.eu/catalogue/category/group-buys/kat-space-cadet_277/


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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 01 April 2020, 19:26:31 »
Dailyclack and Mykeyboard.EU links both updated to direct links to the gb pages! Go get em fam!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 02 April 2020, 01:36:49 »
Wait, what? You mean it WASN'T an April Fool's joke!?!?!?! And you put it on my favorite NA vendor too. Welp! Looks like I'm outfitting two keyboards with this....

Offline gnhuy91

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 02 April 2020, 04:26:27 »
In for a set!
Suggestion: the R3 BackSpace kinda looks out of place because the legend is too long, would you consider changing to "BSpace" or just "BS" like other sets?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 02 April 2020, 07:23:05 »
In for a set!
Suggestion: the R3 BackSpace kinda looks out of place because the legend is too long, would you consider changing to "BSpace" or just "BS" like other sets?
personally voting for backspace or bksp - bspace or bs don't look good to me

Offline Mekberg

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 02 April 2020, 08:01:50 »
I'm certainly interested in this set, but I'm still figuring out what kind of profile I actually enjoy typing on. I've gone from OEM to DSA to Cherry, and Cherry has very clearly been the best so far. I type faster, more accurately, and it just feels and sounds great. DSA is... weird. I get more inaccuracy, but I enjoy the texture and feel a lot. I've also tried some SA on meetups, and for those short sessions I've very much enjoyed typing on SA. The question is how close KAT will be to DSA, as opposed to SA, in terms of how it feels to type on for longer periods.

Anyone who has used KAT for long periods and can give an overview of how it felt going from Cherry or SA profiles?

Offline eskimojo

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 02 April 2020, 09:20:45 »
I'm certainly interested in this set, but I'm still figuring out what kind of profile I actually enjoy typing on. I've gone from OEM to DSA to Cherry, and Cherry has very clearly been the best so far. I type faster, more accurately, and it just feels and sounds great. DSA is... weird. I get more inaccuracy, but I enjoy the texture and feel a lot. I've also tried some SA on meetups, and for those short sessions I've very much enjoyed typing on SA. The question is how close KAT will be to DSA, as opposed to SA, in terms of how it feels to type on for longer periods.

Anyone who has used KAT for long periods and can give an overview of how it felt going from Cherry or SA profiles?

KAT is like SA if it was OEM height, less sculpted, less scooped, and made of silky smooth thick PBT. So not much like SA  ;)

It's hard to compare to Cherry because Cherry is sculpted very differently, and KAT is spherical whereas Cherry is cylindrical. Cherry is also lower profile.



It's by far my favourite profile to type on, and the surface texture is something no other keycaps have topped for me. The sound is also excellent, owing to being 1.65mm(!) thick PBT.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 02 April 2020, 11:29:54 »
OH MY THIS IS AMAZING.

Hey where can we get the deskmat?

Also, WTF is a hyper7! That looks crazy!

http://xahlee.info/kbd/hyper_7_keyboard.html


Offline rockydbull

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #31 on: Fri, 03 April 2020, 07:28:17 »
Are all of the spacebars convex (like the small ones)?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #32 on: Fri, 03 April 2020, 08:27:46 »
Deskpad WHENNNN





Offline kokoon

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 04 April 2020, 01:01:35 »
For how long will this run?

Offline CantFixMyPC

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #34 on: Sat, 04 April 2020, 01:13:10 »
For how long will this run?

On the NA vendor says GROUP BUY ENDS 4/30/2020 @ 23:59 PST.
Here is the IC thread https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103480.0

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #35 on: Sat, 04 April 2020, 07:11:48 »
Hyper7 R3 IC thread (which uses this keycap set) - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105497.0

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 06 April 2020, 10:09:50 »
Hey does anyone know how to get an order refunded from MKUltra? I placed an order first but now I want to change up the sets.


Hyper7 R3 IC thread (which uses this keycap set) - https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105497.0

I really wish I hadn't seen this...

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #37 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 17:23:48 »


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Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #38 on: Tue, 07 April 2020, 17:24:57 »
Thanks dvorcol! Things coming right along super well only 1 week in. Keep em coming folks!

Offline hammerbrotha

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #39 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 00:10:08 »
Purchased, looking forward to this (patiently).

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #40 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 10:08:14 »
So to fit a 60% board you could do the grey alphas and mono mods? So its only $60 for a 60% then? Or how would I fill my board?
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #41 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 10:08:59 »
With the ergo kit this would look really good on a Kinesis Advantage too.
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #42 on: Thu, 09 April 2020, 10:10:49 »
So to fit a 60% board you could do the grey alphas and mono mods? So its only $60 for a 60% then? Or how would I fill my board?

You need a mod kit and an alpha kit so its $29 plus $59 for a 60%.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 10:58:10 »
Ordered.
I started with a Sinclair human flesh keyboard in 1980 and it has never stopped.

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Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 11:01:28 »
Just got updated numbers from mkultra and we're half way to MOQ! Lets keep the momentum going!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #45 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 12:34:27 »
I really like the look of this!

As someone whos only ever really used cherry profile, how are these to type on in comparison? Do they take some getting used to? Do they feel better/worse?

I know that abs can be more thocky but is the pbt on these still nice and thick?

Sorry for all the questions, thanks!

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #46 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 12:38:19 »
KAT is really a pleasure to type on, very thocky and resonant. A lot like SA but more chonk I guess. All profiles take some time to get used to, and it is more like SA than Cherry as the profile is spherical rather than planar like cherry. There's a lot of videos on Youtube that you can use to judge the sound profile though!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #47 on: Sun, 12 April 2020, 12:56:23 »
KAT is really a pleasure to type on, very thocky and resonant. A lot like SA but more chonk I guess. All profiles take some time to get used to, and it is more like SA than Cherry as the profile is spherical rather than planar like cherry. There's a lot of videos on Youtube that you can use to judge the sound profile though!

Really useful, thanks! Im very tempted to put this set together with the new Space65:CyberVoyager in black & gold but its tough without seeing them both in person!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 05:56:51 »
Hey guys, I made a few Grave Robber caps in KAT profile to compliment this release called 'Leaking Spacesuit', the raffle is live until tomorrow. Hope you like them!

Raffle form: closed, thanks for entering!

« Last Edit: Tue, 14 April 2020, 02:18:57 by gothcaps »

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 12:35:47 »
Is font thickness decided?  :rolleyes:

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #50 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 12:37:10 »
Is font thickness decided?  :rolleyes:

What do you mean? The font is part of the gaphics design we've completed, so yes?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #51 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 12:57:24 »
Joined for 8 kits !

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #52 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 13:21:35 »
Okay honestly I thought the fonts could be a little bit thicker? Comparing with SA.
This isn't a critisism. I was just wondering your thoughts.

Is font thickness decided?  :rolleyes:

What do you mean? The font is part of the gaphics design we've completed, so yes?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #53 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 13:34:12 »
We talked about a lot of this on Discord, but here's a summary of what alterations you should probably make to the Ergo kit before it goes to the factory:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105714.0

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #54 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 14:13:29 »
We talked about a lot of this on Discord, but here's a summary of what alterations you should probably make to the Ergo kit before it goes to the factory:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105714.0

I saw your post. I'll make it a point to discuss this with the team tonight and see if there's something we can do or not.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #55 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 14:18:56 »
We talked about a lot of this on Discord, but here's a summary of what alterations you should probably make to the Ergo kit before it goes to the factory:
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=105714.0

I saw your post. I'll make it a point to discuss this with the team tonight and see if there's something we can do or not.
Even just getting the thumb cluster 1u keys switched to R2 instead of R1 would be a huge improvement.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #56 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 14:29:23 »
In other news, we're over 30k units with 17 days to go

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #57 on: Mon, 13 April 2020, 16:34:59 »


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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #58 on: Wed, 15 April 2020, 21:20:47 »
Finally, a decent priced Hyper7 kit!!  Also the rest :D
I can make acrylic laser cut cases/plates PM for info

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #59 on: Thu, 16 April 2020, 07:35:53 »
Quick little update! The deskmats are almost available. They will be priced at $20 on mkultra's site and will ship separately from the keycaps.  We're working with the proxies to get them desk mats but do not know if they will have them at this time.

We've also got some good movement on kit numbers, dvorcol will have a new graph up soon!  Thank you all so much for the support thus far and I can't wait to see what the next 2 weeks bring!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #60 on: Thu, 16 April 2020, 15:17:40 »


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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #61 on: Thu, 16 April 2020, 16:14:45 »
Quick little update! The deskmats are almost available. They will be priced at $20 on mkultra's site and will ship separately from the keycaps.  We're working with the proxies to get them desk mats but do not know if they will have them at this time.

We've also got some good movement on kit numbers, dvorcol will have a new graph up soon!  Thank you all so much for the support thus far and I can't wait to see what the next 2 weeks bring!

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Was hyped to order them together with the keycaps at Mykeyboard  :'(

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #62 on: Thu, 16 April 2020, 16:16:45 »
Quick little update! The deskmats are almost available. They will be priced at $20 on mkultra's site and will ship separately from the keycaps.  We're working with the proxies to get them desk mats but do not know if they will have them at this time.

We've also got some good movement on kit numbers, dvorcol will have a new graph up soon!  Thank you all so much for the support thus far and I can't wait to see what the next 2 weeks bring!

FeelsBadMan
Was hyped to order them together with the keycaps at Mykeyboard  :'(

Do not despair! We're working on a cost effective way to get the proxies a some for sure. Hoping to have more details soon

Offline metheon

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #63 on: Thu, 16 April 2020, 23:13:34 »
Any update on the ergo kit? Waiting for this plus deskmats to order from mykeyboard. :)

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #64 on: Fri, 17 April 2020, 09:42:50 »
Any update on the ergo kit? Waiting for this plus deskmats to order from mykeyboard. :)

After discussion with the team, we have decided that we are not planning on making any changes to the ergo kit at this time.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 18 April 2020, 14:43:46 »
Any update on the ergo kit? Waiting for this plus deskmats to order from mykeyboard. :)

On second (and third thought) we have decided to update the kit as shown here:

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 18 April 2020, 17:15:39 »
On second (and third thought) we have decided to update the kit as shown here:

Wow what an amazing update - I hope this sets the standard going forward for kat kits. No R2 Enter though?

Sadly, based on your earlier statement, I ordered around it, instead equipping another board (in for colemak, ortho mods, novelties and numpad). Im afraid I cant justify picking up this revised ergo kit.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 18 April 2020, 17:24:12 »
Actually, was considering building something like this: https://imgur.com/gallery/FNgpjIr

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #68 on: Sat, 18 April 2020, 18:16:01 »
Any update on the ergo kit? Waiting for this plus deskmats to order from mykeyboard. :)

On second (and third thought) we have decided to update the kit as shown here:
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WOW. Thank you SO MUCH!! That's absolutely great. I'll be getting another kit :)

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #69 on: Sat, 18 April 2020, 20:39:20 »
Really great looking set! I'm pretty new to this whole custom keyboard stuff, but I'm looking forward to using these.

I did have one question though, why not set the single legends in the north/south kits to be the same size and in line with the regular alphas? I'm not sure if I'm making enough sense, so here's a few pics


original:

suggestion:
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #70 on: Sat, 18 April 2020, 21:03:06 »
Really great looking set! I'm pretty new to this whole custom keyboard stuff, but I'm looking forward to using these.

I did have one question though, why not set the single legends in the north/south kits to be the same size and in line with the regular alphas? I'm not sure if I'm making enough sense, so here's a few pics


original: (Attachment Link)

suggestion: (Attachment Link)

Thanks for the edit, we just went through revising all of the graphics. I'll double check this one and I'll be updating the OP graphics here eventually

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 19 April 2020, 16:55:23 »


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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #72 on: Mon, 20 April 2020, 06:26:29 »
Looks great,
One show stopper for me, I use an Icelandic layout and in the "North ISO" kit the "" and "" caps have lower letter glyphs, they should be "" and "" instead.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #73 on: Mon, 20 April 2020, 06:50:01 »
Same things for french layout, the accentued letters are minus for exemple on 2, 7, 9, 0, % keys on a french keyboard

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #74 on: Mon, 20 April 2020, 08:11:20 »
Looks great,
One show stopper for me, I use an Icelandic layout and in the "North ISO" kit the "" and "" caps have lower letter glyphs, they should be "" and "" instead.

We've updated the kit for this change, please check OP!

Same things for french layout, the accentued letters are minus for exemple on 2, 7, 9, 0, % keys on a french keyboard

We're going to keep them as-is for aesthetics, sorry.

On second (and third thought) we have decided to update the kit as shown here:

Wow what an amazing update - I hope this sets the standard going forward for kat kits. No R2 Enter though?

Sadly, based on your earlier statement, I ordered around it, instead equipping another board (in for colemak, ortho mods, novelties and numpad). Im afraid I cant justify picking up this revised ergo kit.

We maed a few little changes to the Ergo Legends as well, removing the extra r2 page up/down keys. The profile changes to the thumb cluster were also flowed to the blanks. Thanks for your feedback.

We're coming along on the MOQ. My latest info was just shy of 39k with 10 days to go!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #75 on: Mon, 20 April 2020, 15:13:57 »
All proxies updated.



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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #77 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 10:42:21 »
Will the deskmats available on other vendors like ZF?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #78 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 15:01:33 »
Yea, still waiting for the deskmats to go live on Mykeyboard before placing my order.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #79 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 17:09:05 »
Yea, still waiting for the deskmats to go live on Mykeyboard before placing my order.

Will the deskmats available on other vendors like ZF?

Proxies have the info for the mats so I suspect they will have them up soon!

We're well over MOQ guys!  Also the Hyper7 r3 group buy is open so please head over and check that out. The KAT Space Cadet set is the only set compatible with this new run!!!
https://groupbuys.mechboards.co.uk/shop/hyper-7-keyboard-r3/



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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #80 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 17:26:29 »
Really great looking set! I'm pretty new to this whole custom keyboard stuff, but I'm looking forward to using these.

I did have one question though, why not set the single legends in the north/south kits to be the same size and in line with the regular alphas? I'm not sure if I'm making enough sense, so here's a few pics


original: (Attachment Link)

suggestion: (Attachment Link)

Thanks for the edit, we just went through revising all of the graphics. I'll double check this one and I'll be updating the OP graphics here eventually

Any updates on this? Will the alphas without sublegends on the North/South kits be changed to the same size and position as the other alphas with sublegends?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #81 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 17:34:57 »
Yea, still waiting for the deskmats to go live on Mykeyboard before placing my order.

Will the deskmats available on other vendors like ZF?

Proxies have the info for the mats so I suspect they will have them up soon!

We're well over MOQ guys!  Also the Hyper7 r3 group buy is open so please head over and check that out. The KAT Space Cadet set is the only set compatible with this new run!!!
https://groupbuys.mechboards.co.uk/shop/hyper-7-keyboard-r3/

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i have joined for hyper7 kit haha. was previously always reluctant to join KAT/keyreative group buys because lack of shipped products, but this seems like a high potential meme that i simply could not pass up

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #82 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 17:44:50 »
Really great looking set! I'm pretty new to this whole custom keyboard stuff, but I'm looking forward to using these.

I did have one question though, why not set the single legends in the north/south kits to be the same size and in line with the regular alphas? I'm not sure if I'm making enough sense, so here's a few pics


original: (Attachment Link)



suggestion: (Attachment Link)

Thanks for the edit, we just went through revising all of the graphics. I'll double check this one and I'll be updating the OP graphics here eventually

Any updates on this? Will the alphas without sublegends on the North/South kits be changed to the same size and position as the other alphas with sublegends?

We discussed this and will be keeping the legends as originally designed.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #83 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 18:56:13 »
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #84 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 19:05:05 »
I'm interested in this set but not quite sure with the real life hue of the blue.... Could anyone point me to sample picture or colour code of the blue used for this set please?
Thanks

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #85 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 19:06:49 »
I'm interested in this set but not quite sure with the real life hue of the blue.... Could anyone point me to sample picture or colour code of the blue used for this set please?
Thanks

It will be color matched to the existing SP Symbiosis 2.0 keyset

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #86 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 19:29:13 »
Why is the R5 Del key not in the 60%+ mods? That is the only reason why I'm not buying this. It would have covered 75% if it was in that kit.  :(

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #87 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 20:37:32 »
Hyper 7 R3 Group Buy is live (which uses the Hyper7 Keycap Set) - https://groupbuys.mechboards.co.uk/shop/hyper-7-keyboard-r3/

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #88 on: Sat, 25 April 2020, 21:08:20 »
Why is the R5 Del key not in the 60%+ mods? That is the only reason why I'm not buying this. It would have covered 75% if it was in that kit.  :(

Its in the numpad kit. Decisions have to be made with kitting when broken out of a giant kit (like say gmk does). You could always buy the numpad kit take the key you want and flip the rest.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #89 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 00:09:28 »
Why is the R5 Del key not in the 60%+ mods? That is the only reason why I'm not buying this. It would have covered 75% if it was in that kit.  :(

Its in the numpad kit. Decisions have to be made with kitting when broken out of a giant kit (like say gmk does). You could always buy the numpad kit take the key you want and flip the rest.

But why? 1800 users would still need to buy the 60%+ mods anyway. I also notice almost, if not all KAT kits are kitted this way. Not sure why. Is this a KAT limitation?
I know it's too late and a decision was made. It just makes more sense to me to include it in the 60%+ mods set.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #90 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 00:14:19 »
Why is the R5 Del key not in the 60%+ mods? That is the only reason why I'm not buying this. It would have covered 75% if it was in that kit.  :(

Its in the numpad kit. Decisions have to be made with kitting when broken out of a giant kit (like say gmk does). You could always buy the numpad kit take the key you want and flip the rest.

But why? 1800 users would still need to buy the 60%+ mods anyway. I also notice almost, if not all KAT kits are kitted this way. Not sure why. Is this a KAT limitation?
I know it's too late and a decision was made. It just makes more sense to me to include it in the 60%+ mods set.
Logic being that R5 delete is mostly used in 1800 boards. So if you're buying it, then you'll mostly need a numpad.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #91 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 00:23:00 »
Why is the R5 Del key not in the 60%+ mods? That is the only reason why I'm not buying this. It would have covered 75% if it was in that kit.  :(

Its in the numpad kit. Decisions have to be made with kitting when broken out of a giant kit (like say gmk does). You could always buy the numpad kit take the key you want and flip the rest.

But why? 1800 users would still need to buy the 60%+ mods anyway. I also notice almost, if not all KAT kits are kitted this way. Not sure why. Is this a KAT limitation?
I know it's too late and a decision was made. It just makes more sense to me to include it in the 60%+ mods set.
Logic being that R5 delete is mostly used in 1800 boards. So if you're buying it, then you'll mostly need a numpad.

I guess 75% layouts are just not popular enough to be considered.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #92 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 04:51:52 »
I'm interested in this set but not quite sure with the real life hue of the blue.... Could anyone point me to sample picture or colour code of the blue used for this set please?
Thanks

It will be color matched to the existing SP Symbiosis 2.0 keyset

Thanks, had a look and they looked great!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #93 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 11:50:30 »
has been looking for a KAT set for a while, settled now, this will be my first KAT set  ;D
btw, who's the manufacture this round ??

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #94 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 12:00:00 »
has been looking for a KAT set for a while, settled now, this will be my first KAT set  ;D
btw, who's the manufacture this round ??

All KAT and KAM keysets are manufactured by Keyreative

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #95 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 12:03:06 »
has been looking for a KAT set for a while, settled now, this will be my first KAT set  ;D
btw, who's the manufacture this round ??

All KAT and KAM keysets are manufactured by Keyreative

Got it, thx.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #96 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 17:25:51 »
In the ISO FR kit, the <> and * keys should be blue as they take the spot of the left shift and the enter keys. It should also include a 2u backspace as it is mandatory for every ISO FR layout

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #97 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 21:32:52 »
In the ISO FR kit, the <> and * keys should be blue as they take the spot of the left shift and the enter keys. It should also include a 2u backspace as it is mandatory for every ISO FR layout

is a french backspace different from the standard backspace in the 60's mod kit?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #98 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 21:36:47 »
Why is the R5 Del key not in the 60%+ mods? That is the only reason why I'm not buying this. It would have covered 75% if it was in that kit.  :(

Its in the numpad kit. Decisions have to be made with kitting when broken out of a giant kit (like say gmk does). You could always buy the numpad kit take the key you want and flip the rest.

But why? 1800 users would still need to buy the 60%+ mods anyway. I also notice almost, if not all KAT kits are kitted this way. Not sure why. Is this a KAT limitation?
I know it's too late and a decision was made. It just makes more sense to me to include it in the 60%+ mods set.
Logic being that R5 delete is mostly used in 1800 boards. So if you're buying it, then you'll mostly need a numpad.

I guess 75% layouts are just not popular enough to be considered.

I think 75% boards are much more fluid in what can go in that column. 1800 boards pretty much have all the keys, where a 75 might not have the delete key. For example I have macros on that column of my 75 and delete on a layer of the backspace key.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #99 on: Sun, 26 April 2020, 22:05:03 »
In the ISO FR kit, the <> and * keys should be blue as they take the spot of the left shift and the enter keys. It should also include a 2u backspace as it is mandatory for every ISO FR layout

No. The <> and * keys are alphas and therefore are supposed to be alpha-colored, not mod-colored. The and keys do get a mod-colored version, as they occupy the spot used by the `~ key in the English (US) layout (which for well-established aesthetic considerations does get the dual keycap treatment).

The 2U backspace is part of the Mods kit (unless you want a keycap with the actual legend "effacer" or something to that effect).

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #100 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 04:45:16 »
<> and * keys from french kit should be blue like the mod keys because they occupy the spot of a mod key, if they are grey, the blue triangles formed by the mod keys wont be triangles anymore, with some grey keys in the middle, it would be ugly

the problem for the backspace key is that it has to be 2u in french layouts, even the most compact one, so you have to buy the 60 mods kits even for small builds

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #101 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 07:07:25 »
<> and * keys from french kit should be blue like the mod keys because they occupy the spot of a mod key, if they are grey, the blue triangles formed by the mod keys wont be triangles anymore, with some grey keys in the middle, it would be ugly
Exactly 0 ISO layouts have done this.

the problem for the backspace key is that it has to be 2u in french layouts, even the most compact one, so you have to buy the 60 mods kits even for small builds
Very confused about what about French makes it any different in backspace size to any other national layout - additionally, how many "small builds" provide support for the apparently compulsory 2u backspace?

Not to mention that it's not actually possible to add a 2u backspace to the kit, as the set is already in GB and thus quotes are final.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #102 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 11:41:53 »
If you keep those keys grey, a french build would look like this :



It totally f*cks up the blue diagonal pattern and looks awful. And they did it for the key which is a character key sitting in a mod spot too, so why not for the <> and the * which are also in mods spots ?

And because of the ISO enter key, the backspace has to sit on the top row, and on the french layout there is only 2 special characters keys after the 0 key, so you usually put a 2u backspace (where the | \ and the hand keys are on the picture above)
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #103 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 11:52:49 »
If you keep those keys grey, a french build would look like this :

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It totally f*cks up the blue diagonal pattern and looks awful. And they did it for the key which is a character key sitting in a mod spot too, so why not for the <> and the * which are also in mods spots ?

And because of the ISO enter key, the backspace has to sit on the top row, and on the french layout there is only 2 special characters keys after the 0 key, so you usually put a 2u backspace (where the | \ and the hand keys are on the picture above)


Thanks for the suggestion but we will not be changing the colors of the ISO kits in the manner you are suggesting. The row 5 2u backspace is the one included in the 60s+ kit already.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #104 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 13:15:02 »
If you keep those keys grey, a french build would look like this :

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It totally f*cks up the blue diagonal pattern and looks awful. And they did it for the key which is a character key sitting in a mod spot too, so why not for the <> and the * which are also in mods spots ?

And because of the ISO enter key, the backspace has to sit on the top row, and on the french layout there is only 2 special characters keys after the 0 key, so you usually put a 2u backspace (where the | \ and the hand keys are on the picture above)

That's how ISO keyboards are and have always been:

« Last Edit: Mon, 27 April 2020, 13:17:45 by Fredington »

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #105 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 14:17:16 »
If you keep those keys grey, a french build would look like this :

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It totally f*cks up the blue diagonal pattern and looks awful. And they did it for the key which is a character key sitting in a mod spot too, so why not for the <> and the * which are also in mods spots ?

And because of the ISO enter key, the backspace has to sit on the top row, and on the french layout there is only 2 special characters keys after the 0 key, so you usually put a 2u backspace (where the | \ and the hand keys are on the picture above)

That's how ISO keyboards are and have always been:

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Going all the way back to the IBM Model M

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #106 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 15:06:17 »
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #107 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 15:09:29 »
Folks if you have not yet, Go check out the deskpads/deskmats/giant mouse pads at mkultra.click!!

Just a few more days to get your orders in so don't hesitate! (Desk pads will be available for order through May)
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Convex caps?
« Reply #108 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 17:07:43 »
Which caps in which sets are convex? I'm looking for 1u and 1.5u convex thumb keys in particular. Thanks!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #109 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 17:09:18 »
The ortho mods have what you are looking for!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #110 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 17:12:06 »
I'm new to the custom keycaps scene but i'm an emacs junkie of many years and very much want to get in on this.

I have an Ergodox EZ that I bought premade from https://ergodox-ez.com/ .

Do i understand it correctly that I should order ONLY the "Ergo Legends" set? Or are more keys required? I've found it pretty challenging to figure out what combinations of which sets I'd need, and would love some guidance.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #111 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 17:13:34 »
I'm new to the custom keycaps scene but i'm an emacs junkie of many years and very much want to get in on this.

I have an Ergodox EZ that I bought premade from https://ergodox-ez.com/ .

Do i understand it correctly that I should order ONLY the "Ergo Legends" set? Or are more keys required? I've found it pretty challenging to figure out what combinations of which sets I'd need, and would love some guidance.

You need an alpha kit:Grey, blue, or mono legends, and the Ergo legend or Blank set

so one alpha set, and one mod set!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #112 on: Mon, 27 April 2020, 17:20:11 »
Perfect.  And when mkultra says "do not add other items to cart" it means that exactly those two sets should constitute my order and nothing else, right? (this is extremely helpful, thank you)

Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #113 on: Tue, 28 April 2020, 01:50:37 »
Will there be extras after GB fulfillment?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #114 on: Tue, 28 April 2020, 03:57:48 »
Will there be extras after GB fulfillment?

Most likely, but you will have to be very lucky to get your hands on them before they sell out and/or you will pay more than what you would be paying now. The GB is still live, so if you are interested, it's better to get in on it now.

If you change your mind later, I'm sure you can always sell your kits on /r/mm.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #115 on: Tue, 28 April 2020, 07:46:49 »
Perfect.  And when mkultra says "do not add other items to cart" it means that exactly those two sets should constitute my order and nothing else, right? (this is extremely helpful, thank you)

Correct

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #116 on: Tue, 28 April 2020, 08:04:03 »
Perfect.  And when mkultra says "do not add other items to cart" it means that exactly those two sets should constitute my order and nothing else, right? (this is extremely helpful, thank you)

Correct

excellent. i went a little wild, so maybe ill have some spares to put on the atreus i also preordered...

thanks for the help again!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #117 on: Tue, 28 April 2020, 18:13:28 »
Which caps in which sets are convex? I'm looking for 1u and 1.5u convex thumb keys in particular. Thanks!

The ortho mods have what you are looking for!

Which caps in that set are convex?  How about other sets such as spacebars?  I can't tell from the pictures and I can't find any info about it in this thread.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #118 on: Wed, 29 April 2020, 16:49:05 »
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #119 on: Wed, 29 April 2020, 20:14:57 »
Which caps in which sets are convex? I'm looking for 1u and 1.5u convex thumb keys in particular. Thanks!

The ortho mods have what you are looking for!

Which caps in that set are convex?  How about other sets such as spacebars?  I can't tell from the pictures and I can't find any info about it in this thread.

All of the gray space keys are convex Except for 1.75u.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #120 on: Thu, 30 April 2020, 05:51:22 »
Will all kits be made?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #122 on: Thu, 30 April 2020, 06:55:53 »
Wow, extended! I'll get then all the kits I want, not only those I need.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #123 on: Thu, 30 April 2020, 18:40:14 »
Will all kits be made?

There are no individual kit MOQs for KAT & KAM group buys.  Instead, the MOQ is the total number of keycap units sold.  A standard alpha counts as 1u, a standard RETURN is 2.25u, a standard spacebar is 6.25u, etc.  KAT Space Cadet's MOQ is 54,000 units, and as of 29 April 72,200 units have been sold.  MOQ has been met, so all kits will be made.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #124 on: Fri, 01 May 2020, 01:23:44 »
All of the gray space keys are convex Except for 1.75u.

I'm sorry but I still don't understand.  Can you please state clearly exactly which caps in which sets are convex?  Thanks.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #125 on: Fri, 01 May 2020, 06:00:52 »
All of the gray space keys are convex Except for 1.75u.

I'm sorry but I still don't understand.  Can you please state clearly exactly which caps in which sets are convex?  Thanks.

All Space Bars Are Convex Except 1.75u

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #126 on: Fri, 01 May 2020, 08:29:42 »
All of the gray space keys are convex Except for 1.75u.

I'm sorry but I still don't understand.  Can you please state clearly exactly which caps in which sets are convex?  Thanks.

All Space Bars Are Convex Except 1.75u
For future reference, it's pretty common to mark convex keys with a "c".


It also doesn't help that the flatlays use concave tops.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #127 on: Fri, 01 May 2020, 16:59:50 »
MOQ has been met.  All kits will be made!



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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #128 on: Sat, 02 May 2020, 07:12:57 »
I have a question, not intended as criticism at all, how did the novelties and up almost the same price as alphas? Is it more expensive to dye somehow?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #129 on: Sat, 02 May 2020, 07:24:42 »
I have a question, not intended as criticism at all, how did the novelties and up almost the same price as alphas? Is it more expensive to dye somehow?
The alpha kit is 54 units (51*1u + 2*1.5u), and the novelties are 52.5 units (26*1u + 6*1.25u + 6*1.5u + 2*1.75u + 1*2u + 2*2.25u). This means that the kits will likely use a similar amount of plastic to make.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #130 on: Sat, 02 May 2020, 07:41:19 »
Makes sense, it looked smaller but I didn't bother to actually count the u's. Thanks!


And I'm in for weirdo alphas, ortho and novelties kit  :D

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #131 on: Sat, 02 May 2020, 09:03:09 »
Entered the group buy at the last moment with Grey Alphas, 60+ Mods and Yellow Accent!

First GB, is it the start of the slippery slope?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #132 on: Sat, 02 May 2020, 09:21:34 »
Entered the group buy at the last moment with Grey Alphas, 60+ Mods and Yellow Accent!

First GB, is it the start of the slippery slope?

 ;D For sure is! Thanks for joining in, I hope we can make it smooth as ever for you and everyone else.  Few more days to go guys!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #133 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 05:47:38 »
What's the discord server for this GB? I'm trying to find someone who might be willing to let go of two 1u keys from the yellow accent kit. I'm a discord newbie, excuse my ignorance.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #134 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 07:05:34 »

All of the gray space keys are convex Except for 1.75u.

Do you mean the spacebars kit? Wouldn't everything in that kit be convex, otherwise it would just be a blank not a spacebar? Also, do you mean the only convex caps in this set are in the spacebars kit? How about the ortho mods kit you mentioned earlier? Or do you mean all the grey blanks in every kit except 1.75u?

Can you please state clearly exactly which caps in which sets are convex?
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #135 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 08:04:05 »

All of the gray space keys are convex Except for 1.75u.

Do you mean the spacebars kit? Wouldn't everything in that kit be convex, otherwise it would just be a blank not a spacebar? Also, do you mean the only convex caps in this set are in the spacebars kit? How about the ortho mods kit you mentioned earlier? Or do you mean all the grey blanks in every kit except 1.75u?

Can you please state clearly exactly which caps in which sets are convex?

Every space bar in every kit is convex except 1.75u which they have no convex mold for. I'm sorry I don't know how to be any more clear.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #136 on: Mon, 04 May 2020, 09:32:46 »

All of the gray space keys are convex Except for 1.75u.

Do you mean the spacebars kit? Wouldn't everything in that kit be convex, otherwise it would just be a blank not a spacebar? Also, do you mean the only convex caps in this set are in the spacebars kit? How about the ortho mods kit you mentioned earlier? Or do you mean all the grey blanks in every kit except 1.75u?

Can you please state clearly exactly which caps in which sets are convex?

Every space bar in every kit is convex except 1.75u which they have no convex mold for. I'm sorry I don't know how to be any more clear.

you are being perfectly clear, and i'm thankful for your clarification. i am happy to see 1.5u and 1u convex in the ortho kit. cheers, can't wait to get this!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #137 on: Tue, 05 May 2020, 08:57:28 »
Hi everyone. This will be my first time to order a keycap in a group buy.

Would a set of gray alphas, 60s mods, and a numpad cover my 96 keyboard layout?
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #138 on: Tue, 05 May 2020, 09:25:59 »
Hi everyone. This will be my first time to order a keycap in a group buy.

Would a set of gray alphas, 60s mods, and a numpad cover my 96 keyboard layout?

As long as you went with a standard build on the 96, it should cover everything just fine.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020
« Reply #139 on: Tue, 05 May 2020, 19:04:03 »
Every space bar in every kit is convex except 1.75u which they have no convex mold for. I'm sorry I don't know how to be any more clear.

Thanks.  So that means, for convex caps up to 2u, they are:

40s Mods: Grey 1x2u.
Ortho Mods: Grey 2x2u, 2x1.5u, 2x1u. Blue 2x1u.
Spacebars: Grey 1x2u, 1x1.25, 2x1u. Blue 1x2u, 1x1.25, 2x1u.
Accents: Yellow 1x2u.
Ergo Blanks / Legends: Grey 2x2u. Blue 2x2u.

None of the printed blue r1 1u with legends in Ortho Mods are convex.

If I want 2x1.5u and 4x1u, say for a crkbd, I could get the the Ortho Mods and have grey 2x1.5u, 2x1u and blue 2x1u, but if I want >4x1u I can't get that from one kit.




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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #140 on: Tue, 05 May 2020, 19:13:38 »
Just want to double check before the GB closes, to fill TKL such as Rama U-80 I just need to pick the base + alpha right?

Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #141 on: Tue, 05 May 2020, 19:30:13 »
Just want to double check before the GB closes, to fill TKL such as Rama U-80 I just need to pick the base + alpha right?

Yes.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9
« Reply #142 on: Wed, 06 May 2020, 17:15:53 »
MOQ has been met.  All kits will be made!



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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 EXTENDED to May 9 MOQ MET
« Reply #143 on: Sat, 09 May 2020, 11:56:42 »
Joined for 40s, classic grey alphas, accents, numpad and novelties on the last day. Now the wait begins.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #144 on: Sun, 10 May 2020, 06:47:54 »
And we're closed! Thank you for all the support! We'll keep you posted as things continue and get dvorcol the last numbers soon. 

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #145 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 09:18:06 »
Well boys I dun messed up. I got blue alphas and didnt realize that there is no blue spacebar in the mods kit. Would have needed to get the spacebar kit...

Thoughts on all blue with a grey spacebar?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #146 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 15:12:32 »
Well boys I dun messed up. I got blue alphas and didnt realize that there is no blue spacebar in the mods kit. Would have needed to get the spacebar kit...

Thoughts on all blue with a grey spacebar?

Oof, I did the same, I was looking for a total blue setup...

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #147 on: Thu, 28 May 2020, 20:31:26 »
Well boys I dun messed up. I got blue alphas and didnt realize that there is no blue spacebar in the mods kit. Would have needed to get the spacebar kit...

Thoughts on all blue with a grey spacebar?

Oof, I did the same, I was looking for a total blue setup...

I brought my big brain move to the 40s discord and they said there will be extras so fingers crossed!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #148 on: Mon, 01 June 2020, 02:15:40 »
Oh no I did the same as well, missing the blue spacebar :(

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #150 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 08:34:45 »
Are deskmats available anywhere other than mkultra?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #151 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 08:48:54 »
Desk pads are no longer available for the GB but there will be extras!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #152 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 13:37:36 »
Desk pads are no longer available for the GB but there will be extras!

Have you seen the post in Kat refined about massive issues with Kat production? Any thoughts on that for this set?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #153 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 16:44:26 »
Desk pads are no longer available for the GB but there will be extras!

Have you seen the post in Kat refined about massive issues with Kat production? Any thoughts on that for this set?

Massive is a bit of an exaggeration - yes, there appear to be some issues, as there are bound to be with a very new profile. Remember Space Cadet is not set to ship until December and that is a lot of time for keyreative to assess, and implement changes to their production. We will see many additional sets shipped before ours so we can continue to monitor the quality situation. You can be confident that Alas, MKUltra and I will strive to deliver the best quality product we (and keyreative) can.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #154 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 20:56:50 »
Desk pads are no longer available for the GB but there will be extras!

Have you seen the post in Kat refined about massive issues with Kat production? Any thoughts on that for this set?

Massive is a bit of an exaggeration - yes, there appear to be some issues, as there are bound to be with a very new profile. Remember Space Cadet is not set to ship until December and that is a lot of time for keyreative to assess, and implement changes to their production. We will see many additional sets shipped before ours so we can continue to monitor the quality situation. You can be confident that Alas, MKUltra and I will strive to deliver the best quality product we (and keyreative) can.

Great to hear! I fully expect there to always be growing pains (like MT3 went through) so I won't hold it crazy standards like I would gmk (especially because the pricing here makes it much easier to understand). Fingers crossed on my Atlantis kits which will run before the cadet.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #155 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 01:07:54 »
These look amazing, kinda wish I got in on the GB. They look especially nice paired with spacecables

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #156 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 04:09:29 »
I couldn't find this anywhere--what is the colour code for the yellow accents?  I need to coordinate!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #157 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 05:51:41 »
I couldn't find this anywhere--what is the colour code for the yellow accents?  I need to coordinate!

In the IC thread we had a poll for colors and we voted to be colormatched with the SA Symbiosis kit and not with the original Space Cadet keyboard, so I guess also the yellow accent kit is colormatched with the Symbiosis. In that case, this is the legend from the r2.


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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #158 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 17:47:12 »
Awesome, thanks!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #159 on: Mon, 29 June 2020, 02:28:29 »

In the IC thread we had a poll for colors and we voted to be colormatched with the SA Symbiosis kit and not with the original Space Cadet keyboard, so I guess also the yellow accent kit is colormatched with the Symbiosis. In that case, this is the legend from the r2.

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wait, what? "to be colormatched with the SA Symbiosis kit and not with the original Space Cadet keyboard" ??
but this GB thread started with the saying "The KAT Space Cadet colors will be color matched to an original Space Cadet keyboard", right under Details. 
 
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #160 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 02:03:52 »

In the IC thread we had a poll for colors and we voted to be colormatched with the SA Symbiosis kit and not with the original Space Cadet keyboard, so I guess also the yellow accent kit is colormatched with the Symbiosis. In that case, this is the legend from the r2.

Show Image


wait, what? "to be colormatched with the SA Symbiosis kit and not with the original Space Cadet keyboard" ??
but this GB thread started with the saying "The KAT Space Cadet colors will be color matched to an original Space Cadet keyboard", right under Details. 
 

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103480.msg2845390#msg2845390
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103480.msg2845596#msg2845596

I don't think he ever acquired the OG board, but I'd say that we can trust SA Symbiosis matched (or at least REALLY close) the color, so I wouldn't worry at all. Just my 2 cents