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Offline perihelion86

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #150 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 08:34:45 »
Are deskmats available anywhere other than mkultra?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #151 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 08:48:54 »
Desk pads are no longer available for the GB but there will be extras!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #152 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 13:37:36 »
Desk pads are no longer available for the GB but there will be extras!

Have you seen the post in Kat refined about massive issues with Kat production? Any thoughts on that for this set?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #153 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 16:44:26 »
Desk pads are no longer available for the GB but there will be extras!

Have you seen the post in Kat refined about massive issues with Kat production? Any thoughts on that for this set?

Massive is a bit of an exaggeration - yes, there appear to be some issues, as there are bound to be with a very new profile. Remember Space Cadet is not set to ship until December and that is a lot of time for keyreative to assess, and implement changes to their production. We will see many additional sets shipped before ours so we can continue to monitor the quality situation. You can be confident that Alas, MKUltra and I will strive to deliver the best quality product we (and keyreative) can.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #154 on: Sat, 06 June 2020, 20:56:50 »
Desk pads are no longer available for the GB but there will be extras!

Have you seen the post in Kat refined about massive issues with Kat production? Any thoughts on that for this set?

Massive is a bit of an exaggeration - yes, there appear to be some issues, as there are bound to be with a very new profile. Remember Space Cadet is not set to ship until December and that is a lot of time for keyreative to assess, and implement changes to their production. We will see many additional sets shipped before ours so we can continue to monitor the quality situation. You can be confident that Alas, MKUltra and I will strive to deliver the best quality product we (and keyreative) can.

Great to hear! I fully expect there to always be growing pains (like MT3 went through) so I won't hold it crazy standards like I would gmk (especially because the pricing here makes it much easier to understand). Fingers crossed on my Atlantis kits which will run before the cadet.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #155 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 01:07:54 »
These look amazing, kinda wish I got in on the GB. They look especially nice paired with spacecables

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #156 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 04:09:29 »
I couldn't find this anywhere--what is the colour code for the yellow accents?  I need to coordinate!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #157 on: Sun, 07 June 2020, 05:51:41 »
I couldn't find this anywhere--what is the colour code for the yellow accents?  I need to coordinate!

In the IC thread we had a poll for colors and we voted to be colormatched with the SA Symbiosis kit and not with the original Space Cadet keyboard, so I guess also the yellow accent kit is colormatched with the Symbiosis. In that case, this is the legend from the r2.


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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #158 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 17:47:12 »
Awesome, thanks!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #159 on: Mon, 29 June 2020, 02:28:29 »

In the IC thread we had a poll for colors and we voted to be colormatched with the SA Symbiosis kit and not with the original Space Cadet keyboard, so I guess also the yellow accent kit is colormatched with the Symbiosis. In that case, this is the legend from the r2.

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wait, what? "to be colormatched with the SA Symbiosis kit and not with the original Space Cadet keyboard" ??
but this GB thread started with the saying "The KAT Space Cadet colors will be color matched to an original Space Cadet keyboard", right under Details. 
 
« Last Edit: Mon, 29 June 2020, 02:37:51 by lz2019 »

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #160 on: Tue, 30 June 2020, 02:03:52 »

In the IC thread we had a poll for colors and we voted to be colormatched with the SA Symbiosis kit and not with the original Space Cadet keyboard, so I guess also the yellow accent kit is colormatched with the Symbiosis. In that case, this is the legend from the r2.

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wait, what? "to be colormatched with the SA Symbiosis kit and not with the original Space Cadet keyboard" ??
but this GB thread started with the saying "The KAT Space Cadet colors will be color matched to an original Space Cadet keyboard", right under Details. 
 

https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103480.msg2845390#msg2845390
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=103480.msg2845596#msg2845596

I don't think he ever acquired the OG board, but I'd say that we can trust SA Symbiosis matched (or at least REALLY close) the color, so I wouldn't worry at all. Just my 2 cents

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #161 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 17:40:21 »
I have a Hyper 7 R2 and completely missed out on this GB! Any chance of extras on the H7 kit? I hesitate to say I'll pay anything, but I'll kinda pay anything. :)
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #162 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 17:43:45 »
I have a Hyper 7 R2 and completely missed out on this GB! Any chance of extras on the H7 kit? I hesitate to say I'll pay anything, but I'll kinda pay anything. :)

There will be extras!

We just heard that they are working on producing a set of samples for us so keep your eyes peeled for those soon!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #163 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 17:45:10 »
That's awesome news, thanks!!
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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #164 on: Thu, 20 August 2020, 05:20:29 »
Any news regarding the GB status will be sent here? First GB for me, not entirely sure how it works around here. (:

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #165 on: Thu, 20 August 2020, 07:04:29 »
Any news regarding the GB status will be sent here? First GB for me, not entirely sure how it works around here. (:

Welcome to the world of GB's. Here's how it works: You join, then you look at all the other sets produced by the same manufacter and see them being delayed, so you let go of any expectations or timelines. Then you hear it starts shipping, but your proxy is the last to ship, so you are waiting an additional couple of weeks or months.


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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #166 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 18:23:18 »
roughly 8 more sets to ship so we're looking at next year but It'll be worth the wait.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #167 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 18:24:29 »
roughly 8 more sets to ship so we're looking at next year but It'll be worth the wait.
From the fall to next year? That's a huge difference!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #168 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 18:29:10 »
Hey everyone sorry its been so quiet so far!!!


We finally heard from keyreative...

Essentially they needed a special base color for our set which was only just delivered so they are currently dye subbing for samples. Because of the delay, some other sets have jumped ahead of us in color matching stage so we're a bit behind. 

To be clear based on the timeline, we're about 3 weeks late for samples compared to Atlantis, which given the situation (covid) by itself is not terrible, then when you consider the extra time for the special color things kind of line up.

We'll try to stay in touch but things are moving along albeit a bit slower than we'd have hoped!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #169 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 19:23:37 »
Honestly, that is great news all things considered! Thanks for the update!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #170 on: Fri, 21 August 2020, 19:30:25 »
roughly 8 more sets to ship so we're looking at next year but It'll be worth the wait.
From the fall to next year? That's a huge difference!


Inaccurate timelines are all part of the fun.

I've had one GB arrive early. ever. Beautiful board. Massive brass weight. Didn't even keep it.

Maybe this will be a nice Lunar New Year gift to yourself.

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED
« Reply #171 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 11:24:15 »
Samples are on their way to MKUltra and then Alas and myself.  :eek:  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #172 on: Tue, 15 September 2020, 19:43:11 »
We've received our first round of samples



They are a fair bit off from our expectation and we've already sent feedback back to keyreative for another go at it. By themselves, the colors look really great IMO but we said we'd match Symbiosis so that's what we're doing!

We'll keep you posted when we hear back!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #173 on: Tue, 15 September 2020, 22:58:34 »
We've received our first round of samples
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They are a fair bit off from our expectation and we've already sent feedback back to keyreative for another go at it. By themselves, the colors look really great IMO but we said we'd match Symbiosis so that's what we're doing!

We'll keep you posted when we hear back!
Great news!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #174 on: Fri, 18 September 2020, 05:12:28 »
We've received our first round of samples
They are a fair bit off from our expectation and we've already sent feedback back to keyreative for another go at it. By themselves, the colors look really great IMO but we said we'd match Symbiosis so that's what we're doing!

We'll keep you posted when we hear back!

Just curious, what's off in your opinion?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #175 on: Fri, 18 September 2020, 08:57:46 »
We've received our first round of samples
They are a fair bit off from our expectation and we've already sent feedback back to keyreative for another go at it. By themselves, the colors look really great IMO but we said we'd match Symbiosis so that's what we're doing!

We'll keep you posted when we hear back!

Just curious, what's off in your opinion?

Look at the yellow keys.  The KAT keys are a bit desaturated and lean a bit orange.

The grey keys are a little darker than the source samples, and the grey seems a teensy bit bluer.

The blue keys seem to be well within margin of error, IMO.

Offline tominabox1

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #176 on: Fri, 18 September 2020, 08:59:41 »
We've received our first round of samples
They are a fair bit off from our expectation and we've already sent feedback back to keyreative for another go at it. By themselves, the colors look really great IMO but we said we'd match Symbiosis so that's what we're doing!

We'll keep you posted when we hear back!

Just curious, what's off in your opinion?

Nopun kind of summed it up well. The blue is a tad lighter but is pretty close indeed.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #177 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 14:03:54 »
so sad that I skipped this GB.
Hoping for extras...  :-X

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #178 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 14:49:53 »
Any update?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #179 on: Tue, 06 October 2020, 21:56:58 »
Any update?

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We've been reaching out to our contacts several times a week and not getting any information from Keyreative right now. They have our feedback from the colors so it is a waiting game to see when we will be fit into the queue. We all know we're dealing with an understandably busy manufacturer at this point. I'm not super pleased about the communication but things do seem to be moving behind the scenes. As you've seen with other sets in front of us, we're unlikely to meet a 2020 ship date sadly. I wish I had a more solid timeframe to point you to, but I do not. However, I can share my confidence that our patience will pay off when we get that color match we're looking for and the quality we expect. We have to be grateful for the sets before us in the queue burdening a lot of the load correcting Keyreative's process. I do expect that to really reduce the likelihood of quality issues with Space Cadet.

We'll do our best to keep you posted when we know anything.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #180 on: Wed, 07 October 2020, 00:31:00 »
Thank you for the response! I totally understand that uncertainty is part of the game. I would, however, appreciate some update periodically if it's bad news, as I am not closely following all the KAT sets.

Personally, I joined the GB partially because of the estimated quick turn around but I totally understand that issues occur with a new manufacturer. Is there a discord server where I can get updated more regularly?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #181 on: Thu, 08 October 2020, 01:04:13 »
With the current delays and issues with older KAT sets already in production, i'm gonna guess we ain't seeing this until at least Summer 2021.

See everyone next summer!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #182 on: Thu, 29 October 2020, 05:36:41 »
GMK Space Cadet R2 is estimated to ship in June 2021, so I hope we will get the KAT version before that at least :P

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #183 on: Sun, 08 November 2020, 20:36:41 »
We finally heard back from Alex at Zfrontier - keyreative is having difficulties matching the gray color after our initial responses to color matches. Alex has had them do several additional rounds of gray samples. We have not seen these samples so cannot confirm whether they are better or worse than what we saw in the first round. It sounds like Alex is happy with the  yellow and blue colors and they may be well matched now, but we also have not seen these yet. We have requested these samples so we can examine them ourselves while they continue to work on the gray.

We will not approve production until Alas and I have confirmed the color match in person

We have asked for production estimates explicitly but with the overall production delays on all KAT sets, as well as the matching issues, we don't have any way to predict when the set will ship at this point.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #184 on: Sun, 08 November 2020, 21:14:21 »
Dammit, I hope Keyreative gets their **** together! I’m waiting on many sets including this one from Keyreative!!!


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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #185 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 14:05:58 »
tiny micro sized not-really update: mkultra has samples en route for the deskpads. first vendor bounced apparently. We have requested the 4 rounds of gray samples Alex at zfrontier told us they have but we have not heard if they are sending them or not.

That's all we have right now. Sorry for not more info.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #186 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 16:21:55 »
can you clarify what you mean by ”first vendor bounced apparently”? much appreciated  :thumb:

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #187 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 16:48:08 »
can you clarify what you mean by ”first vendor bounced apparently”? much appreciated  :thumb:

Paid for and never delivered. Working with second manufacturer.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #188 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 05:48:50 »
I've missed every single Space Cadet keycap GB so far and I'm so sad. :c
Why didn't I get into the keyboard hobby sooner??

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #189 on: Wed, 09 December 2020, 10:18:52 »
I've missed every single Space Cadet keycap GB so far and I'm so sad. :c
Why didn't I get into the keyboard hobby sooner??

No worries. There will be extras of this set once the groupbuy ships :)

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #190 on: Mon, 21 December 2020, 16:09:11 »
Any updates?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #191 on: Mon, 21 December 2020, 20:13:46 »
Any updates?

I have received all the samples that Keyreative has done for us so far on Friday, I will be sending to Alas for her review and feedback soon. We're not matched yet.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #192 on: Mon, 21 December 2020, 20:53:15 »
Once we are matched, do we move to the back of the production line again or is our slot reserved?

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED - Color Matching
« Reply #193 on: Tue, 29 December 2020, 19:14:31 »
Spoke with mkultra, he's still waiting on samples for the desk mats - the first manufacturer ghosted, so still waiting.

Alas is finishing a move and I am waiting on sending the cap samples to her. I'm not sure where the current production queue puts us with the color matching where it is right now.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - April 2020 - CLOSED Color Matching
« Reply #194 on: Mon, 11 January 2021, 13:59:45 »
Alas has received the samples and concurred with my and MKUltra's assessments. Where we stand now (blue Q, Gray Q and 5.2, and yellow W are KAT samples against GMK Space Cadet and SA Symbiosis):

Blue is approved as-is. Very good match!
Yellow is very close, slightly more orange but its very subtle and partially due to texture differences IMO.
Gray is furthest off but Alas and I agree that the Gray on the Q here is pleasant and does not have the red cast that the other samples have. It is not a perfect match but it seems to be clear that a perfect match may be beyond Keyreative's capabilities. We Can still reject this match and request additional samples but as you know, we've already slipped past expected dates and the further we delay approval, the further we delay production. We are prepared to accept the color Q but definitely want to make sure you, the buyers, are willing to accept this as well.

As such, please fill out this straw poll so that we may know how you feel. We'll check back in a few days and move from there.

https://www.strawpoll.me/42427729

Thank you all for standing by patiently as Keyreative works through its growing pains. Rest assured, Alas and I are just as eager to get our sets as you are.

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet CLOSED Color Matching STRAW POLL
« Reply #195 on: Tue, 12 January 2021, 21:14:21 »
I.just voted. I know I'm just 1 person in the GB but the grey looks fine to me!  Hope we can move into production soon!

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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet CLOSED Color Matching STRAW POLL
« Reply #196 on: Mon, 18 January 2021, 10:12:27 »
The yeses have it - We're moving ahead with the current samples!



Keyreative has been notified of our decision and will proceed to production with the approved colors. I suspect with this information we'll soon have a better understanding of when we might start shipping to buyers but as of today, I don't have any more information to share on that topic.


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Re: [GB] KAT Space Cadet - Color Matching Complete - Awaiting Production
« Reply #197 on: Tue, 26 January 2021, 21:46:41 »
Very excited! Glad all that's left is to wait for Keyreative (even if it may be a long one).