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Offline BirgusLatro

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Hey GeekHack!
I am proud to present to you my retro-inspired steel mechanical keyboard with a handle.

It's called the Saturn-60

The Group Buy is moving to production! Check the thread below for updates
https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109090.0

The base kit price is $200.  GB will run for 30 days, unless 500 units are sold earlier. A kit comes with all parts you need to build a Saturn-60 except for switches, stabilizers, and keycaps.
If you are on a budget, feel free to just order plates + PCBs since those could be used outside of the case for a minimalist 60% build.
Color options are pictured below.  Two-toned orders are ok, and you can upgrade the finish of your plate, handle and badges.

Plate options: Plain Aluminum, Black Anodized Alum, Yellow Zinc Plated Steel, Stainless Steel.
Handle Options: Plain Aluminum, Black Anodized Alum, Stainless Steel, Brass
Stainless or Brass Badges
*Default Kit comes with: brushed aluminum Purist plate + clear anodized alum handle + Stainless badges + Titan60.
Saturn-60 is a Bottom-Mounted Keyboard with gasket isolation, and has a floating foam frame that dampens the upper plate and chassis vibrations.

--Vendors--
North + South America:
Ace Keyboard Co.

Europe + ROW
CandyKeys

Oceania:
Daily Clack


Discord: https://discord.com/invite/355EFD3





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Renders by Milan D. (DevilZmods)
Badge designs by u/JaffaScript


Typing Test:
https://clips.twitch.tv/HelplessMushyBananaVoHiYo


Here are some more pictures:
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Render



Raw steel prototype (fit & finish will improve with the next round prototype build)




Painted steel prototype


Backside (some screws omitted)


Painted Ortholinear Prototype

Plate (a gasket isolates the plate from the case)


Image gallery: https://imgur.com/gallery/F6eQa4m

Q&A:

What are the physical specs?
   Footprint: 13.5 x 8 x 2.75 inches / 343 x 203 x 70 mm (with handle folded down)
   Weight: ~ 4.4 lb / 2 kg assembled with a stainless plate and aluminum handle
   Typing angle: 7
   Front height: 0.8-1.0 / 20-25mm depending on use of feet

What colors will be offered?
- #4 Brushed Stainless Steel https://fractory.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Stainless-Steel-Brushed.jpg
- Beige Texture www.cardinalpaint.com/assets/colors/T241-BG137.jpg [RAL1013]
- Black Texture http://www.cardinalpaint.com/assets/colors/C241-BK01.jpg
- White Texture http://www.cardinalpaint.com/assets/colors/C031-WH120.jpg
- Mint Green https://images.nicindustries.com/prismatic/products/3377/green-bean-psb-2759-dt2018111222241454-thumbnail.jpg

Layouts?
The Saturn-60 should be able to support the most popular 60% layouts using different plates:
ANSI/ISO, 5x15 Ortholinear, 5x14 Boardwalk
Here are the Layouts:
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PCB?
A custom PCB was designed that can fit any standard 60% case.  Its name is Titan60.  We are working on the QMK and VIA support now.
It has a Type C connector and supports the layouts shown above.  Here are renderings and proto pics:

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Who is the manufacturer?
A sheet metal fabrication shop in Southern California that does millions of parts per year.  We have met with them and we have confidence in being able to produce this keyboard.  Their stated lead time is around 6-8 weeks.  Note: the pictured prototypes were not made by them, but a machinist friend. New protos have been received as of 9/2/2020 and look very close to ready for production.

How many units will be made?
The MOQ is 100 but the GB will be unlimited.  This round will be limited to 500 units. Extras may or may not be available. 

Cost?
Target cost is between $125-175 $200 for a base kit. Extra parts are available, extra kits may or may not be. Our philosophy was to make this simple, affordable and customizable (a Raspberry Pi 4 fits inside)

Can I make suggestions?
Yes of course, and we appreciate all criticism.  PM me if you have a suggestion or want to collaborate!

Handles?
You will be able to choose from Clear or Black anodized aluminum, Stainless Steel, or Brass.
Otherwise, there will be an option without a handle and the holes to mount them with.

GB Plan:

Vendors:
AceKeyboard.co -- North + South America
CandyKeys.com -- Europe + Asia
DailyClack.com -- Australia + NZ
Date for GB is Friday 16.10.2020
I plan to send an email to those that have already "reserved" one using the IC form or the sign up list and allow them to checkout before the GB opens for FCFS.
Email will be sent to confirm the list within a week.



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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 12:48:28 »
WHAT IN THE HOLLY F

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 12:48:42 »
Holy...

Imagine putting rails on this big boi and having him in a drawer or a server rack!

Nice design!

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 13:07:20 »
Holy...

Imagine putting rails on this big boi and having him in a drawer or a server rack!

Nice design!

Thank you!  We were going for those mainframe vibes.  If I were any good at rendering I'd do a bunch of different colors and keycap sets.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 17:12:13 »
I dig it.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 18:16:12 »
Hey GeekHack!
Several months ago my friend infected me...

I think is looks really cool! How is the typing feel and sound on the prototype? :)

The painted versions are nice! It would be cool with an old school logo, like the one you had on an image in the google form!

WHAT IN THE HOLLY F

Haha
« Last Edit: Mon, 25 May 2020, 18:23:29 by econeuler »

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 19:58:55 »
Hey GeekHack!
Several months ago my friend infected me...

I think is looks really cool! How is the typing feel and sound on the prototype? :)

The painted versions are nice! It would be cool with an old school logo, like the one you had on an image in the google form!

WHAT IN THE HOLLY F

Haha

Thanks for the feedback!  I am working on a logo / badge design for it, but I am an engineer not a graphic designer so my skills are a bit rough :P
The typing feel is very nice, and the sound is a bit different than what I am used to because this is my first time using "Silent" switches.  Next prototype build I will be using regular type switches.
« Last Edit: Mon, 25 May 2020, 20:11:47 by BirgusLatro »

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 20:42:25 »
With the right top/layout, this would be amazing to put some vintage Russian keys on. I'm very interested in this.
F Keys belong on the left.

Offline BirgusLatro

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 21:25:06 »
With the right top/layout, this would be amazing to put some vintage Russian keys on. I'm very interested in this.

Thank you!   ;D  Working on a render to show that this keyboard could have a two-tone colorway thanks to the two piece construction. 

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 21:26:30 »
Do you have more pics of the internals? Curious how the top and bottom case come together

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 21:42:42 »
Woah, probably in if it's some high grade SUS being used :cool:


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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 21:45:25 »
Do you have more pics of the internals? Curious how the top and bottom case come together

243488-0
243490-1
243492-2

Basically there are little hooks on the top half of the case that latch into the slots in the bottom half and work like a hinge.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 21:47:49 »
WHAT IN THE HOLLY F

 :eek: I'll take that as a compliment  :p

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 25 May 2020, 22:02:37 »
Woah, probably in if it's some high grade SUS being used :cool:

Thank you!  It's guaranteed to be 100% FAF (Ferrous as F***)
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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #14 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 10:29:11 »
Do you have more pics of the internals? Curious how the top and bottom case come together

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Basically there are little hooks on the top half of the case that latch into the slots in the bottom half and work like a hinge.

Very cool. Thanks. How does it mount on the inside?

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #15 on: Wed, 27 May 2020, 10:30:05 »
Do you have more pics of the internals? Curious how the top and bottom case come together

(Attachment Link)
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(Attachment Link)

Basically there are little hooks on the top half of the case that latch into the slots in the bottom half and work like a hinge.

Very cool. Thanks. How does it mount on the inside?

Disregard. I forgot about the photos up top.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 11 June 2020, 23:40:48 »
Just updated the initial post! Please have a look.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #17 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 00:05:48 »
Just updated the initial post! Please have a look.

Im in!  Also posted on your discord under the name Reiko. :)

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #18 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 09:36:33 »
My apologies to everyone who joined Discord - I accidentally set the invite to "auto kick upon leaving if a role isn't given"   :'(  I have fixed it and here is a proper invite link: https://discord.com/invite/355EFD3

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #19 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 09:43:59 »
HHKB please

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« Reply #20 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 09:52:52 »
HHKB please
Thank you for saying please!  I'm not opposed to it -  I am willing to do other R5 options depending on interest.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #21 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 09:54:14 »
Are you planning for a EU vendor?

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« Reply #22 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 10:05:17 »
Are you planning for a EU vendor?

Thanks for your question!  I'd love to have an EU vendor, but right now I don't have one!  If you or someone you know can help, just PM me.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #23 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 15:31:21 »
This is wild, looks good

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #24 on: Fri, 12 June 2020, 16:11:58 »
This is wild, looks good

Thank you Malvix!  I'm working on a slogan like: Saturn-60: "It will thock your world"

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #25 on: Sat, 13 June 2020, 16:22:54 »
This board looks kind of strange but I love it, the price just makes it that much more appealing. I feel like maybe a  pastel pink or pastel purple colour way could look really good with this!

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« Reply #26 on: Sat, 13 June 2020, 20:26:25 »
This board looks kind of strange but I love it, the price just makes it that much more appealing. I feel like maybe a  pastel pink or pastel purple colour way could look really good with this!
Thanks for your compliment! I will keep everyone posted about colors as the project develops.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #27 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 03:24:17 »
Goodness this design is jaw droppingly awesome. Thank you for the ortholinear support! Are you open to adding Boardwalk support too?

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« Reply #28 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 11:34:36 »
Goodness this design is jaw droppingly awesome. Thank you for the ortholinear support! Are you open to adding Boardwalk support too?
Thank you so much!!! I think it's one of those products that people either love or hate at first sight.  I am so open to supporting Boardwalk in fact that I've already created a plate for it, and have talked briefly with the Boardwalk people about getting a handful of PCBs to be able to support this GB.

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« Reply #29 on: Sun, 14 June 2020, 13:33:54 »
Goodness this design is jaw droppingly awesome. Thank you for the ortholinear support! Are you open to adding Boardwalk support too?
Thank you so much!!! I think it's one of those products that people either love or hate at first sight.  I am so open to supporting Boardwalk in fact that I've already created a plate for it, and have talked briefly with the Boardwalk people about getting a handful of PCBs to be able to support this GB.
That's really exciting! Later I saw the Boardwalk plate option in the IC survey. :)

That KAT RTTY set in the first render looks interesting. Not sure if I've seen an IC for it on here. Boardwalk support for that would be cool as heck too.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 06 July 2020, 18:35:02 »
So I just ordered the GMK Nuclear Data keycaps from dixie, which was my first group buy. Could anyone quickly explain to me what all these lead times mean? At this point could I expect to be able to order and get this keyboard in the next year? Sorry, this is all new to me, but I am very excited about my real big boy build and this would make the data caps very well.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 06 July 2020, 19:42:54 »
So I just ordered the GMK Nuclear Data keycaps from dixie, which was my first group buy. Could anyone quickly explain to me what all these lead times mean? At this point could I expect to be able to order and get this keyboard in the next year? Sorry, this is all new to me, but I am very excited about my real big boy build and this would make the data caps very well.

For a Group Buy, the estimated leadtimes are usually stated in the product page. 
The Saturn-60 Group Buy is not-yet open, but I hope to be able to take orders in August.  After that, the keyboards will be produced and sent out.  The approximate lead time between conclusion of GB orders and product delivery is about 8 weeks.
For GMK Nuclear Data it lists the estimated shipping time to be Q2 2021.   Their leadtime is much longer because GMK has a big backlog of custom keycap sets to produce

Hope this was helpful.

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« Reply #32 on: Mon, 06 July 2020, 20:19:31 »
Extremely helpful! Cant wait to purchase my first kit!

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 09 July 2020, 20:40:26 »
Oh yeah, I gotta get me one of these for sure.  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #34 on: Fri, 10 July 2020, 14:21:00 »
Whoa, so this is the keeb im gonna match with KAM Wraith!  :eek:

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 10 July 2020, 19:45:19 »
How do you plan on making the raspberry pi ports accessible from outside the case?
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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 10 July 2020, 20:43:27 »
How do you plan on making the raspberry pi ports accessible from outside the case?
  There's a USB 3.0 panel cable that goes into the case - if someone wanted to have an HDMI output, etc, they would have to drill a hole on the back wall or notch the bottom edge for cables to escape

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 10 July 2020, 22:55:05 »
Wow this is incredible! I think I'm leaning towards the beige with SA Godspeed (solar alphas with apollo mods and some novs).

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« Reply #38 on: Sat, 11 July 2020, 00:39:15 »
very interested -- this has garnered a lot of interest from my friends (and i think i've talked about it 3 separate times on my stream), i'm just worried about whether or not you have a vendor

the logistics of running a group buy are often greatly overestimated by first time runners, but this is one of the coolest projects i've seen in a while and i'll probably go in for one regardless

also my vote goes to army/forest green for the "wildcard" color, not enough dark color options
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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 11 July 2020, 02:42:02 »
Super unique and can't wait to see the final product! It looks so '70s chic in that beige cw. I'm in for one for sure! Now to decide what caps...

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #40 on: Sat, 11 July 2020, 10:10:10 »
I had already commented on your og reddit post, but this is awesome. Def into a beige boardwalk build.

Only two notes: Would you consider any options to include sound dampeners in the kit (for extra)?

This case design in pure steel would sound be a bit rough without any..

Also, would love a version of this with a thick rotary encoder on right corner opposite to the badge, would be pretty sick!

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #41 on: Sat, 11 July 2020, 10:12:18 »
I think I will take the brushed steel and paint it with Hammerite paint. 🤔

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #42 on: Sat, 11 July 2020, 16:07:12 »
I had already commented on your og reddit post, but this is awesome. Def into a beige boardwalk build.

Only two notes: Would you consider any options to include sound dampeners in the kit (for extra)?

This case design in pure steel would sound be a bit rough without any..

Also, would love a version of this with a thick rotary encoder on right corner opposite to the badge, would be pretty sick!

Thank you for the support!  I agree that plain steel would not be ideal acoustically.  To combat this I have 3 locations planned for sound dampening inside the case, and I am acquiring samples of various materials to try in each location on the protos.

1.    {Between the plate and the case where it mounts}
2.    {On the top case half pushing down on the plate} (foam will be on short sides of the case too)
3.    Between plate and PCB (a la MKUltra)

The badge is actually optional so people can decide where they want to put it (Stainless/Brass backed with 3M industrial adhesive).
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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #43 on: Wed, 15 July 2020, 03:14:31 »
This looks amazing

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #44 on: Wed, 15 July 2020, 03:54:19 »
In for one! This board looks great, and I could easily see myself using this in the office. Hoping everything goes smoothly.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #45 on: Wed, 15 July 2020, 17:00:29 »
I think I will take the brushed steel and paint it with Hammerite paint. 🤔

Super unique and can't wait to see the final product! It looks so '70s chic in that beige cw. I'm in for one for sure! Now to decide what caps...

Wow this is incredible! I think I'm leaning towards the beige with SA Godspeed (solar alphas with apollo mods and some novs).

This looks amazing

In for one! This board looks great, and I could easily see myself using this in the office. Hoping everything goes smoothly.

I dig it.

Whoa, so this is the keeb im gonna match with KAM Wraith!  :eek:

Oh yeah, I gotta get me one of these for sure.  :thumb:

Thank you all for your comments showing support!!!

very interested -- this has garnered a lot of interest from my friends (and i think i've talked about it 3 separate times on my stream), i'm just worried about whether or not you have a vendor

the logistics of running a group buy are often greatly overestimated by first time runners, but this is one of the coolest projects i've seen in a while and i'll probably go in for one regardless

also my vote goes to army/forest green for the "wildcard" color, not enough dark color options

Thank you so much for the compliment Puddsy! Had no idea you had talked about it on stream that is awesome, +1 follow from me ... :)
I know the logistics are going to be difficult.  I have been talking to a few of the well-known vendors and they are interested but want to see the new prototypes first. 
I will see what they have to say before making a decision on how exactly to run the GB.  When I know more, I'll share with all.
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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #46 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 08:52:20 »
I'm excited for this. Would love to use a Boardwalk, but since they're not hotswap, there's always a risk that it could get bricked and require hours of desoldering before I recover that special bent steel plate inside. So maybe XD75 would be a safer bet, but not as nice IMO.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #47 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 08:58:17 »
Can split shift/fn be an option on the ANSI layout?

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #48 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 09:05:27 »
Woah! This is turning into one of the sexiest boards I have ever seen.
I surely hope you can manage a EU vendor. I am quite sure you would have a lot of sales here.

Also, if I want to include a PI, doesnot it need output holes in the back?

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #49 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 11:50:00 »
I'm excited for this. Would love to use a Boardwalk, but since they're not hotswap, there's always a risk that it could get bricked and require hours of desoldering before I recover that special bent steel plate inside. So maybe XD75 would be a safer bet, but not as nice IMO.

I am actually working on a product to make de-soldering MX switches easier, but no timeline or details ready to share as of now.

Can split shift/fn be an option on the ANSI layout?

Yes. Both L & R shifts will be able to split

Woah! This is turning into one of the sexiest boards I have ever seen.
I surely hope you can manage a EU vendor. I am quite sure you would have a lot of sales here.

Thank you!  Will definitely keep everyone in the loop.

Also, if I want to include a PI, doesnot it need output holes in the back?

A RasPi won't be "included" but just able to fit inside the case.  I might add some half circle cutouts on the bottom case for cables to pass through the back


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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #50 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 12:12:08 »
I think Mkultra.click is working on a hotswap boardwalk. Please keep boardwalk compatibility. I have mine millmaxed.

Will there be standoff holes on the bottom for mounting a rpi? Or just mounting tape to the bottom of the case?

It might be neat to have a square panel cut out, that we can break off, so that we can 3d print a little bracket for the rpi.
Something kinda like this https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1793758, but mounting it sideways and exposing the video, audio, and power.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #51 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 13:17:24 »
I think Mkultra.click is working on a hotswap boardwalk. Please keep boardwalk compatibility. I have mine millmaxed.

Will there be standoff holes on the bottom for mounting a rpi? Or just mounting tape to the bottom of the case?

It might be neat to have a square panel cut out, that we can break off, so that we can 3d print a little bracket for the rpi.
Something kinda like this https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1793758, but mounting it sideways and exposing the video, audio, and power.

The Serial Plate holes are the same pattern/dimension as the RasPi4 mounting holes.  <- This was going to be an Easter Egg but I think it makes more sense just to be candid about it.
You are right that knockout plates are probably the easiest way to allow it to be modular, but that would make the design a little too purpose-built and it doesn't look good.

For HDMI/Eth/etc. cables this is what I'm thinking:

Offline radam

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #52 on: Thu, 16 July 2020, 13:52:04 »
I think thats probably good if you wanna keep the back clean. I guess people can always try to cut into the case if they really want to diy extra port holes.

I might try to get an extra for this purpose if possible. I have a Blokas.io pisound and it would be really cool to have a little all in one pi audio workstation thing.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos Ordered]
« Reply #53 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 19:36:12 »
Dear lord, please let the Ogre Ergo kit for GMK Sixes reach MOQ, because I needs it for that Saturn 60 with the beige powder coat.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos ARRIVED]
« Reply #54 on: Thu, 30 July 2020, 22:18:55 »
Quick and dirty update regarding the prototypes I received yesterday:

Good news:
First of all I am typing this message on a Saturn-60 that I just built with Box Jades and a DZ60 [clone] PCB.
I wanted to see how loud and pingy a Saturn-60 would be without any dampening whatsoever, and I was surprised that actually it isn't that bad...reminds me of the way a Model M "sings" but you can call me biased. 
I have a handful of foam samples and the next builds will utilize foam and linear or tactile switches.
The plates turned out really well and I am happy with the strength and flexibility of those, despite being aluminium.
Here is a build gallery: https://imgur.com/a/hKkgkBK
The bad news:
The Manufacturer didn't make the top halves correctly but they agreed to remake them since it was their mistake.
What happened is they completely omitted the latching feature from the front part of the top halves, which you can see at the end of the gallery above (this is why the gaps on the side are so big still - the case is just floating due to this issue).
Also, the laser cutting process causes moderate cosmetic damage to the brushed stainless, so I might retract that finish option because QC will be way too hard.




Here is a CLICKY typing test:
https://i.imgur.com/eq6E0IP.mp4

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos ARRIVED]
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 00:06:09 »
This board looks great! If I had the carpenter skills, I'd make a permanent standing desk and have this keyboard able to pull out.
As for the handle, I'd use magnetic ones to initiate the slide and close when needed.


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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos ARRIVED]
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 11:49:21 »
This board looks great! If I had the carpenter skills, I'd make a permanent standing desk and have this keyboard able to pull out.
As for the handle, I'd use magnetic ones to initiate the slide and close when needed.

Thank you!  I think that would be really cool... looking forward to see how everyone uses their boards eventually !   :thumb:

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos ARRIVED]
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 13:49:22 »
Oh my, that handle lol

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos ARRIVED]
« Reply #58 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 00:48:43 »
"Cost?
Target cost is between $125-175 per kit."

I'm so in! This is one of those keebs where SA Keycaps would sit perfectly! Hoping for WKL layout :)

When is GB?

Edit: Filled up IC Form
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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos ARRIVED]
« Reply #59 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 15:23:29 »
"Cost?
Target cost is between $125-175 per kit."

I'm so in! This is one of those keebs where SA Keycaps would sit perfectly! Hoping for WKL layout :)

When is GB?

Edit: Filled up IC Form

Nice!!!   GB hopefully this month BUT is potentially needing to get bumped back because the prototypes had some issues. I also need to get those and the other fine details of the design sorted out.  I'm trying to fix the problems before starting GB instead of taking everyone's money and then working out the kinks.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos ARRIVED]
« Reply #60 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 23:29:25 »
"Cost?
Target cost is between $125-175 per kit."

I'm so in! This is one of those keebs where SA Keycaps would sit perfectly! Hoping for WKL layout :)

When is GB?

Edit: Filled up IC Form

No rush. Will be waiting patiently  :D

Nice!!!   GB hopefully this month BUT is potentially needing to get bumped back because the prototypes had some issues. I also need to get those and the other fine details of the design sorted out.  I'm trying to fix the problems before starting GB instead of taking everyone's money and then working out the kinks.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos ARRIVED]
« Reply #61 on: Tue, 04 August 2020, 11:08:05 »
i'm super into this and definitely onboard for the GB whenever it's ready!

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos ARRIVED]
« Reply #62 on: Tue, 04 August 2020, 11:21:03 »
This reminds me of a very specific system keyboard from the early 1980's but I can't remember what it was called.  Even the logo is the same style.
I started typing on a Sinclair ZX Spectrum 'human flesh' keyboard in 1980 and I never stopped.

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Offline StanleyLelnats

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos ARRIVED]
« Reply #63 on: Tue, 04 August 2020, 18:11:26 »
Love this design. Would love to be able to fit a solenoid in there.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos ARRIVED]
« Reply #64 on: Tue, 04 August 2020, 22:18:37 »
LOVE this thing! I may get a RasPi4 and learn how to use it because of this board. Great price point and excellent design!

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Protos ARRIVED]
« Reply #65 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 15:20:07 »
i'm super into this and definitely onboard for the GB whenever it's ready!

Excellent!  I still don't have a firm date for the GB yet, but the issue with the protos is causing it to be pushed back nonetheless.

Love this design. Would love to be able to fit a solenoid in there.

I have had a couple of people ask about solenoid support.  Still undecided on whether the PCB will support or not.  But either way I think that the solenoid seems like more of a liability to add to the PCB than a benefit.


LOVE this thing! I may get a RasPi4 and learn how to use it because of this board. Great price point and excellent design!

Thank you so much!  The more refined this board gets, the harder it is to stay on target for cost, but I am trying to only do things that I feel are "worth it", like badges and sound dampening.

This reminds me of a very specific system keyboard from the early 1980's but I can't remember what it was called.  Even the logo is the same style.


The logo style was inspired by UNIVAC, which is much older than the 80s so maybe not be what you are thinking of... but I am curious to see so let me know if you remember it

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 22 August 2020, 19:17:24 »
Happy Saturnday GeekHack!  I have a few updates to share with you:

Next week:
  • Another round of protos are coming. These are production-intent. If the form and function both look good, I'll set a GB date in September with vendors.
  • I expect to receive the remaining quotes needed to be able to set the Retail Prices.
  • The custom PCB protos will be done and shipped to me for arrival the week after (estimate). More info below
About the Titan60 PCB:


Layouts supported using 2 different plates: "Purist" and "Utilitarian".


Q. Why make this custom PCB if it is just a normal 60% layout? 
A. First, because I linked up with an excellent PCB designer and we can provide it in the GB for cheaper than an off-the shelf one. Second, I want to support RGB side-glow for the vents on the sides of the case. Third, because it looks cool.
Q. Can I still use my own 60% PCB?
A. Yes. DZ60, AN-C, Zeal-60 and many other "Pok3r" PCBs should work.  But the USB interlink cable included will only be Type C.
Q. What about ortho users?
A. I still plan to offer Boardwalk PCBs (and plates) during the GB.


Custom Foam and Gaskets

The thicker one installs above the plate, the thinner one goes below.


Updates from behind the scenes:
After I received the last round of protos, I was unhappy with the quality of the stainless laserwork and with my design for the front latch mechanism.
I spent the past weeks redesigning it to be more easily manufactured, and more user friendly.  The issue was that the hinge would cause significant scraping during assembly/disassembly. So I changed the front to have a flange with clinch nuts. This means the Top Case assembles directly from above, and should no longer significantly rub. 
Pics to illustrate the new front edge design:


(Bottom Gasket not shown)

Huge props to u/JaffaScript for designing both Saturn badges, PCB graphics, and currently working on the company logo.
Huge props to u/wild_sitcom_episode/ for the PCB design.
« Last Edit: Sat, 22 August 2020, 19:22:15 by BirgusLatro »

Offline eribabu

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #67 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 17:56:46 »
Beautiful. I always felt steel cut cases were under-explored.
I have an ortho set of Godspeed MT3 Apollo caps - hard to say whether the white or beige would be a better match. Either way I can't wait for this.

Offline paperassgasket

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 30 August 2020, 21:42:20 »
Don't know how this flew under my radar for so long. I am DEFINITELY in for this.

Offline ryukomatoi

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #69 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 00:56:39 »
This is perfect for my weed stash. I'm in.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #70 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 04:40:02 »
Im so conflicted about this.. I hate that I love it so much :|

Offline BirgusLatro

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #71 on: Mon, 31 August 2020, 11:52:58 »
Don't know how this flew under my radar for so long. I am DEFINITELY in for this.


Definitely not too late to get in!  GB dates and vendors will be announced soon.

This is perfect for my weed stash. I'm in.

I can neither condone nor condemn this type of activity

Im so conflicted about this.. I hate that I love it so much :|

I will soon send prototype(s) to streamer(s); perhaps some real steel will help change how you feel.

Offline paperassgasket

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #72 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 10:34:28 »
You know I am definitely in for this, but I just had an idea: old typewiters similar to this used to have these cover shells that you could snap on to protect it while you carried your typewriter around.
I'll bet something like that would be a really snazzy option for this. you could have it loop over and under the front and just have a strap to the back to hold it closed.

Probably not something everyone is interested in, but it would be a really cool option.


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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #73 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 12:06:39 »
At first I said lol

Then I saw the target price and said in

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #74 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 12:23:37 »
I glanced at this IC when it first went live but got no further than the renders before I clicked away assuming the kit would cost the earth. Taking a second look I think this thing would absolutely amazing if it comes in anywhere near the targeted price point. I love the white top/black bottom render, reminds me of a prop from 70's sci-fi.

Offline BirgusLatro

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #75 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 19:06:09 »
Beautiful. I always felt steel cut cases were under-explored.
I have an ortho set of Godspeed MT3 Apollo caps - hard to say whether the white or beige would be a better match. Either way I can't wait for this.

Thank you! Sorry I missed replying to your comment earlier.  Working with sheetmetal is very tricky because it is more like origami than carving material into a precise shape.  Each fold has an effect on the next.

You know I am definitely in for this, but I just had an idea: old typewiters similar to this used to have these cover shells that you could snap on to protect it while you carried your typewriter around.
I'll bet something like that would be a really snazzy option for this. you could have it loop over and under the front and just have a strap to the back to hold it closed.

Probably not something everyone is interested in, but it would be a really cool option



I do like this idea, probably will look into covers/cases for the Saturn down the road

At first I said lol

Then I saw the target price and said in

 ;D

I glanced at this IC when it first went live but got no further than the renders before I clicked away assuming the kit would cost the earth. Taking a second look I think this thing would absolutely amazing if it comes in anywhere near the targeted price point. I love the white top/black bottom render, reminds me of a prop from 70's sci-fi.

Thank you for coming back and giving it another look!  I am doing my best to provide as much value in this project as possible.

FYI all I have written these replies on a brand new Prototype.


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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #76 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 19:14:07 »
That new proto is looking really good!

Offline paperassgasket

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #77 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 19:42:26 »
That new proto is looking really good!

Agreed.


FYI all I have written these replies on a brand new Prototype.
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Yeah I'm gonna need a side profile shot there boss.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #78 on: Thu, 03 September 2020, 20:56:46 »
Finally not made in China :thumb:
I'm in

Offline sctang

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #79 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 00:14:34 »
Looking sweet! Not sure if I missed it but would boardwalk PCBs be part of a potential GB kit?
Keep up the great work!

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [new protos coming]
« Reply #80 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 16:38:10 »
That new proto is looking really good!
  Thank you!  Still not perfect but very close.  Issues with this round are as follows:
-The very high position of the switches in the assembly is because I built this unit with an older revision plate - the new revision plates are 3.5mm lower so the caps will be sit lower in the case. 

-The Mfg. used the wrong radii for some of the bends, so the fit (gaps) are very close but the case halves do not sit as flat as they should.
But, it is significantly better than the previous round.

-The interconnect cable is hard to plug into the PCB because it is very close to where it attaches to the back of the case.  Moving the USB connector to the opposite side of the case will solve this problem.

Finally not made in China :thumb:
I'm in
Yes, the Saturn-60 will meet the FTC requirements for Made in USA claims. 

Looking sweet! Not sure if I missed it but would boardwalk PCBs be part of a potential GB kit?
Keep up the great work!
I appreciate your support  :)



FYI all I have written these replies on a brand new Prototype.
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Yeah I'm gonna need a side profile shot there boss.
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Here you go:


Offline paperassgasket

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [build stream soon]
« Reply #81 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 16:45:18 »
ohhhhhhhhhhh god that looks so good!

Offline parablol

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [build stream soon]
« Reply #82 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 19:30:24 »
Loving the finish and shiny hardware on that prototype.

Offline SxM Designs

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [build stream soon]
« Reply #83 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 19:35:46 »
Is there a possibility of mixing colors for different halves?

Offline BirgusLatro

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [build stream soon]
« Reply #84 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 19:44:26 »
ohhhhhhhhhhh god that looks so good!

Thank you!  Glad you like it.

Loving the finish and shiny hardware on that prototype.
Thanks! I am really loving the quality of these handles. The handle and screws shown are stainless steel.

Is there a possibility of mixing colors for different halves?

Yes 100%.  and you can order an extra case half or two if you want to change them to your mood.


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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [build stream soon]
« Reply #85 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 19:53:06 »
I'm a bit surprised that it's a low profile case. Is there a reason it's not high profile?

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Offline BirgusLatro

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [build stream soon]
« Reply #86 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 23:07:58 »
I'm a bit surprised that it's a low profile case. Is there a reason it's not high profile?

I assembled this build using an older revision of the plate.  The current ones are 3.5mm lower.  I will update with pictures after this weekend

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Offline gnho

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [build stream soon]
« Reply #87 on: Fri, 04 September 2020, 23:12:46 »

I assembled this build using an older revision of the plate.  The current ones are 3.5mm lower.  I will update with pictures after this weekend


Looking forward to seeing it. I just find the whole "floating" design doesn't appear "retro." Thanks!

Offline paperassgasket

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [build stream soon]
« Reply #88 on: Sat, 05 September 2020, 00:38:52 »
Yeah no offense to your original plate design but a higher profile on the case would be so much nicer.

Offline spikedsynapse

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [typing test inside]
« Reply #89 on: Wed, 09 September 2020, 21:15:15 »
Wow this is a sexxy board. I cannot wait to make this a part of my collection.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [typing test inside]
« Reply #90 on: Thu, 10 September 2020, 19:41:51 »
So dang hyped that this will be produced in the mint color. You've surely solidified my buy! Can't wait for the GB date announcement!

Offline Carpelos

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [typing test inside]
« Reply #91 on: Fri, 11 September 2020, 14:39:39 »
100% in. Got my attention with the handle and retro looks, but with the possibilities of the case...
EU proxy?

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [typing test inside]
« Reply #92 on: Mon, 14 September 2020, 13:06:16 »
This one is really cool, if the PCB gets QMK support I'm sold!
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Offline BirgusLatro

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [typing test inside]
« Reply #93 on: Mon, 14 September 2020, 13:28:30 »
So dang hyped that this will be produced in the mint color. You've surely solidified my buy! Can't wait for the GB date announcement!
Great to have your support, thank you for coming to post in the thread !

This one is really cool, if the PCB gets QMK support I'm sold!

We are actually working on the QMK (and VIA) firmware port right now. Will update when there is more news.

100% in. Got my attention with the handle and retro looks, but with the possibilities of the case...
EU proxy?


Thanks!  I am actively talking to two EU proxies to coordinate dates, price, etc.

Offline SxM Designs

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [typing test inside]
« Reply #94 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 05:21:30 »
I am sold if we have a EU proxy. I hope the price remains as it is :)

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [typing test inside]
« Reply #95 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 09:44:09 »
I am sold if we have a EU proxy. I hope the price remains as it is :)

Make sure you join the discord! They haven't updated GH yet, but GB is supposed to be October 16th! CandeyKeys is the EU vendor as well

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [typing test inside]
« Reply #96 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 10:01:07 »
I am sold if we have a EU proxy. I hope the price remains as it is :)

Make sure you join the discord! They haven't updated GH yet, but GB is supposed to be October 16th! CandeyKeys is the EU vendor as well

Oh too many discords to keep track of. Thanks for the info :) Looking forward to this .

Offline paperassgasket

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [typing test inside]
« Reply #97 on: Wed, 16 September 2020, 15:51:29 »
I just need that beige case and some poop-brown MT3 profile keycaps and I'll be set for life.

Offline paperassgasket

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [vendors and GB!]
« Reply #98 on: Thu, 17 September 2020, 10:32:21 »
Any updates on the badge? Will both be available? How will they mount? After seeing the prototypes I've realized that badge definitely completes the look.

Offline BirgusLatro

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [vendors and GB!]
« Reply #99 on: Thu, 17 September 2020, 12:11:17 »
Any updates on the badge? Will both be available? How will they mount? After seeing the prototypes I've realized that badge definitely completes the look.

Both badge finishes (stainless and brass) will be available for the GB.  The Saturn badge attaches with 3M LSE adhesive and the Serial Data plate attaches with included M3 hardware - both are installed by the customer.

Offline DanielUlbrich

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [vendors and GB!]
« Reply #100 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 14:11:16 »
Looks super sick!! Since you mentioned fitting a RPi in there, any thoughts about cooling, options to fit ports somewhere?

Offline Dissitesuxba11s

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [vendors and GB!]
« Reply #101 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 16:07:26 »
Super dope, definitely considering getting one for the price. Not sure if it has been asked but can you mix and match the colors like that one white render?

Offline Magnificent Bureaucrat

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [vendors and GB!]
« Reply #102 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 18:10:13 »
Pretty sure it has been confirmed on discord that you can get bases and tops in different colours.

Offline Dissitesuxba11s

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [vendors and GB!]
« Reply #103 on: Sat, 26 September 2020, 21:37:55 »
Yea I see it on the discord announcements now. Looks like two-tone is good :thumb:

Offline HiiragiAkira

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard
« Reply #104 on: Sun, 27 September 2020, 02:56:26 »
Holy...

Imagine putting rails on this big boi and having him in a drawer or a server rack!

Nice design!

this sounds so cool, how would you install it tho? Have the handle on the outside to tug or?

Offline darthcapn

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [vendors and GB!]
« Reply #105 on: Sun, 27 September 2020, 05:36:02 »
Dang it I missed to respond to this and hence I AM NOT ON THE LIST. But what a beautiful chonker is this lad! Wish I can get one.

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Offline BirgusLatro

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [vendors and GB!]
« Reply #106 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 18:49:24 »
Looks super sick!! Since you mentioned fitting a RPi in there, any thoughts about cooling, options to fit ports somewhere?

Thank you very much!  Sorry I am a little behind on the geekhack replies - for the RPi cooling I did not really make any special provisions, but I suppose it is possible to mount it to the case with some thermal paste.  For ports, I have created a breakoff tab on the bottom of the case that can be used to pass cables through.

Super dope, definitely considering getting one for the price. Not sure if it has been asked but can you mix and match the colors like that one white render?

Yes, as one person replied, two toned ordering will be perfectly acceptable.  Thank you for the compliment!


Offline ShovelScum

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [vendors and GB!]
« Reply #107 on: Fri, 16 October 2020, 01:36:42 »
Can't wait to see this hit GB status! Waiting for my turn.

Also, why is the Vendor website for the US still not up? Will it go live once the GB starts? I really want this, but don't want to order from overseas....
Like the name suggests, I am the ScumBag who rides a Shovel through this landfill.

Offline Capone1423

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [vendors and GB!]
« Reply #108 on: Fri, 16 October 2020, 08:12:02 »
I would like to order one on candy keys but its still password protected, any ideas or help?

Offline child

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [vendors and GB!]
« Reply #109 on: Fri, 16 October 2020, 08:34:44 »
Wait 4.5h from now for EarlyBird Sale to complete (if I get the timing right), then it should be unlocked

Offline BirgusLatro

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [GB Opens Today!]
« Reply #110 on: Fri, 16 October 2020, 09:08:16 »
Can't wait to see this hit GB status! Waiting for my turn.

Thank you!   ;D

Also, why is the Vendor website for the US still not up? Will it go live once the GB starts? I really want this, but don't want to order from overseas....
 

Wait 4.5h from now for EarlyBird Sale to complete (if I get the timing right), then it should be unlocked

Yep - the GB sites are going live at 6PM GMT+0  I am going to make a GB thread now.

I would like to order one on candy keys but its still password protected, any ideas or help?


Offline Gunt0x

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [GB Opens Today!]
« Reply #111 on: Fri, 16 October 2020, 14:49:18 »
Is it compatible with other PCB such as Insta60 or DZ60?

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #112 on: Sat, 17 October 2020, 07:32:55 »
HHKB please
Thank you for saying please!  I'm not opposed to it -  I am willing to do other R5 options depending on interest.

Looks like this didn't happen in the end?

Offline m3t4lm4n222

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [GB Opens Today!]
« Reply #113 on: Sat, 17 October 2020, 09:50:35 »
Does this case fit any standard 60% PCB, so, say, for example, I wanted to use an ANSI Layout Hotswap PCB?

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [GB Opens Today!]
« Reply #114 on: Sat, 17 October 2020, 11:14:57 »
Does this case fit any standard 60% PCB, so, say, for example, I wanted to use an ANSI Layout Hotswap PCB?

Is it compatible with other PCB such as Insta60 or DZ60?


Since the USB is a passthrough, it should be able to use any 60% PCB. Just pick the correct plate for your layout. The purist plate should work for most PCB's, but the utilitarian plate should be used if you're using a 2U left shift

Offline BirgusLatro

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [Update June 11]
« Reply #115 on: Sun, 18 October 2020, 21:48:03 »
HHKB please
Thank you for saying please!  I'm not opposed to it -  I am willing to do other R5 options depending on interest.

Looks like this didn't happen in the end?

Correct, there was not enough interest in HHKB unfortunately. 

Offline Selbor

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [GB Opens Today!]
« Reply #116 on: Sun, 18 October 2020, 22:00:36 »
I"m new to all this.  Are the switches swappable?  Or do I have to solder them?

Offline aadk5

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [GB Opens Today!]
« Reply #117 on: Sun, 18 October 2020, 22:13:30 »
I"m new to all this.  Are the switches swappable?  Or do I have to solder them?

If you buy the PCB from them, you'd have to solder. However, you should be able to use any hotswappable 60% PCB

Offline acaban

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [GB is OPEN]
« Reply #118 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 02:57:46 »
Utilitarian pcb supporting ISO enter but not left shift split?

Offline BirgusLatro

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [GB is OPEN]
« Reply #119 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 09:56:27 »
Utilitarian pcb supporting ISO enter but not left shift split?
Yes that is correct

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [GB is OPEN]
« Reply #120 on: Mon, 26 October 2020, 19:44:20 »
I dig it. Not sure that i would get, but its a unique build for sure. The more plain builds just don't excite me quite as much, but i get more detail-work would take away from the space-camp/ space-race tech vibe.

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Re: [IC] Saturn-60: High-Profile Steel Keyboard [GB ordering closed]
« Reply #121 on: Sun, 01 November 2020, 06:23:10 »
This name is fitting of the keyboard. A black cube is often worshipped as Saturn in Satanic circles. You know. The kind HRC frequenters while shes dining on fine newborn children. God bless her soul, such a nice woman, I have missed her dearly even if she thinks Im in this basket called the dependables. Oh yeah and MT3 Elven middd with like Serika would look dankica on this keirka