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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #100 on: Wed, 04 November 2020, 12:03:20 »
very refined looking set @break, great work.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #101 on: Wed, 04 November 2020, 16:08:52 »
Included this input in IC but it would be nice to see a few common 40s keys make it into the base kit (R3 1.25 tab being the big one). Hope some other 40s users could give some input as well, but that one key would be a help in fitting some popular 40s layouts and wouldn't likely be cost prohibitive

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #102 on: Wed, 04 November 2020, 17:06:03 »
Is there going to be a international/northern layout addon?

Seems like a shame it's missing since the whole set is heavily influenced by Eero Saarinen, a Finnish American designer.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #103 on: Thu, 05 November 2020, 09:12:03 »
Is there going to be a international/northern layout addon?

Seems like a shame it's missing since the whole set is heavily influenced by Eero Saarinen, a Finnish American designer.

Nothing has changed here from my original answer in the Common Questions section:

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I would love to support NorDe users, but it’ll be challenging. Consider two of the biggest sets to date: GMK 9009 sold 1500 base kits and 55 NorDe kits, while GMK MoDo Light sold 3000 base kits and 100 NorDe kits. At a 3% attachment rate and a standard 250 MOQ, I would sell 7.5 kits.

That said, if you’re interested in NorDe, chime in on the IC Survey and I will definitely consider it.

Please respond to the IC survey if you'd like to see support!

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #104 on: Thu, 05 November 2020, 12:47:42 »
I checked in on this IC after a while, and was happy to find that you've added DH as a Canadian vendor. Thank you! I'm very excited. I'm thinking this is going to be the most perfect set for the Soya U80A.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #105 on: Thu, 05 November 2020, 15:57:38 »
+1
so excited to try this on u80 soya!

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #106 on: Thu, 12 November 2020, 09:18:17 »
Really like the look, but would love to see more renders on a dark board to get a better impression on how it looks

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #107 on: Tue, 17 November 2020, 02:21:06 »
Would it be possible to get a render of this with the Gentleman65?

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #108 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 09:26:22 »
I checked in on this IC after a while, and was happy to find that you've added DH as a Canadian vendor. Thank you! I'm very excited. I'm thinking this is going to be the most perfect set for the Soya U80A.

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so excited to try this on u80 soya!

I agree - I'd love to see more SOYA or e-beige options out there, and think Birch would pair perfectly with them.

Really like the look, but would love to see more renders on a dark board to get a better impression on how it looks

I hear you, you're not the first to request something like this. Stay tuned!

Would it be possible to get a render of this with the Gentleman65?

I don't think I will request a render on that board, but do you have a specific color you'd like to see it paired with? I could ask for a render on a similar color, to give you an idea.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #109 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 09:28:55 »
Mini-update for Birch:

Aluminum artisan design plans have changed, so I am working on updated designs. As a bonus, I will now include a reversed Eames chair (birch-on-blue) in the novelty kit.

Deskmats are nearly complete, and after that it's time for samples. I'm tweaking one render with the updated deskmat design, and will share that here when it's ready.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #110 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 11:46:31 »
Three colors I never thought would go well together. Well done  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #111 on: Tue, 01 December 2020, 21:58:27 »
Base Kit looks great.  Love the blue accent / woody mod combo.  Definitely on my radar for February.
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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #112 on: Wed, 02 December 2020, 00:53:34 »
Base Kit looks great.  Love the blue accent / woody mod combo.  Definitely on my radar for February.

Three colors I never thought would go well together. Well done  :thumb:

Thank you both!!

I don't think I've explicitly pointed this out, but one of the new renders shows a Dawn FE (by crykn of Finite Designs) in white. That Dawn is sitting atop the first confirmed deskmat design. :)


More deskmat and aluminum artisan news soon.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #113 on: Wed, 02 December 2020, 02:18:41 »
I love the mods ! Really sleek looking set. GLWIC !

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #114 on: Fri, 04 December 2020, 17:12:53 »
I love the mods ! Really sleek looking set. GLWIC !

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Thank you!!

I have some bad news for international users - after chatting with vendors, I can't get to a place where set feedback and current GMK MOQs justify offering an International Kit. This will be my first GB for a wholly-original keyset, and I prefer to make conservative kitting decisions. Put another way, I do not want to obligate others (or myself!) to buy out a kit for which there may not be sufficient demand.

If the set proves to be successful, and folks demand either a second round or a run in another profile, I would be ecstatic to offer NorDE-UK options. Additionally, the base kit does offer physical ISO support. But as it stands now, I will not offer this next February.

My sincere apologies to all of you.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #115 on: Fri, 04 December 2020, 17:44:52 »
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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #116 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 12:06:38 »
I cannot wait to see this on the Iron 165 FE and the J-02 LE in for sure!!

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #117 on: Tue, 22 December 2020, 12:21:58 »
I just realized there's a real missed opportunity to have a floor lamp ISO enter.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #118 on: Sun, 27 December 2020, 11:12:54 »
I just realized there's a real missed opportunity to have a floor lamp ISO enter.
Indeed, ISO enter novelty should not be ignored.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #119 on: Sun, 27 December 2020, 11:51:39 »
I just realized there's a real missed opportunity to have a floor lamp ISO enter.
Indeed, ISO enter novelty should not be ignored.

I just realized there's a real missed opportunity to have a floor lamp ISO enter.

I caught this too while finalizing the kits. I promise it will not be ignored. More news in the new year!

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #120 on: Mon, 28 December 2020, 23:47:32 »
I see keyboard renders with a beige version of the `~ key, but I only see a white version of the key in the base kit image. Will that key be available in both white and beige?

Love the set! :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #121 on: Tue, 29 December 2020, 00:55:18 »
I love the colors but not a big fan of the novelties. It would be better to design some iconic symbols or things other than the furnitures. You should understand that not everyone has the same love to the chairs.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #122 on: Tue, 29 December 2020, 04:27:13 »
This is clean, V E R Y clean and I can’t wait!

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #123 on: Tue, 29 December 2020, 11:47:25 »
I love the colors but not a big fan of the novelties. It would be better to design some iconic symbols or things other than the furnitures. You should understand that not everyone has the same love to the chairs.

Totally understood! For those folks, the set can be purchased without the novelty kit

I see keyboard renders with a beige version of the `~ key, but I only see a white version of the key in the base kit image. Will that key be available in both white and beige?

Love the set! :thumb:

Thank you!! Yes, mod tilde and pipe will be included!

This is clean, V E R Y clean and I can’t wait!

Me either, thank you!

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #124 on: Tue, 29 December 2020, 15:39:58 »
Ne 40s compat avail :(

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #125 on: Tue, 29 December 2020, 15:54:53 »
Ikeya

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #126 on: Tue, 29 December 2020, 20:11:49 »
Hi folks. We now have a Rama artisan for GMK Birch. It is dual infilled and two-tiered, inspired by Sour’s amazing Rama artisan for GMK Pono.



Kitting updates will be wrapped up early in the new year.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #127 on: Tue, 29 December 2020, 22:22:17 »
This will be my first Rama artisan. Looks so nice.


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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #128 on: Tue, 29 December 2020, 23:30:29 »
That RAMA cap is fantastic!! Great work break!

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #129 on: Wed, 30 December 2020, 08:45:55 »
This will be my first Rama artisan. Looks so nice.

Thanks for the kind words. :)

That RAMA cap is fantastic!! Great work break!

Thank you Carney!!

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #130 on: Thu, 31 December 2020, 15:08:54 »
Gorgeous set, great work break.

I enjoy the inspiration for the set and how you've translated it into the keycaps.

The colors jive well together, it's all very cleanly designed. The coup de grâce is definitely that RAMA cap, bravo. I mean, this set is simply wonderful. As someone who prefers and enjoys in your face gonzo colors and themes, I am ironically a fan of GMK Birch.

There was a comment about an ISO novelty enter with a floor lamp and I absolutely agree with it. You've already mentioned that you'll be designing and adding it to the novelty kit, good choice. Speaking of kits, the kitting is great. It will satisfy most people. Unfortunately, it's difficult to please everyone with all the niche layouts out there that would like to be supported, but I think most will be satisfied.


Cheers, good luck with the GB my friend.
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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #131 on: Thu, 31 December 2020, 17:53:34 »
Gorgeous set, great work break.

I enjoy the inspiration for the set and how you've translated it into the keycaps.

The colors jive well together, it's all very cleanly designed. The coup de grâce is definitely that RAMA cap, bravo. I mean, this set is simply wonderful. As someone who prefers and enjoys in your face gonzo colors and themes, I am ironically a fan of GMK Birch.

There was a comment about an ISO novelty enter with a floor lamp and I absolutely agree with it. You've already mentioned that you'll be designing and adding it to the novelty kit, good choice. Speaking of kits, the kitting is great. It will satisfy most people. Unfortunately, it's difficult to please everyone with all the niche layouts out there that would like to be supported, but I think most will be satisfied.


Cheers, good luck with the GB my friend.

Thanks for the kind words, bud. Hoping people agree with you in about a month! :D

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #132 on: Fri, 01 January 2021, 14:54:03 »
Hey - it looks like mod tilde is gone?

Consider adding that back in.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #133 on: Fri, 01 January 2021, 21:02:02 »
Hey - it looks like mod tilde is gone?

Consider adding that back in.

It actually wasn’t in the set to begin with. In the next kitting update it will be added.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #134 on: Sun, 03 January 2021, 08:38:38 »
I hope this goes to GB because I'm ALL about it.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #135 on: Sun, 03 January 2021, 10:31:40 »
I've never bothered to post before, but I'll continue to shill for this set. A+ design

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« Reply #136 on: Sun, 03 January 2021, 15:40:37 »
I think this will be THE set of 2021

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« Reply #137 on: Sun, 03 January 2021, 15:59:50 »
thats a great Rama. Nice work as always.

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« Reply #138 on: Sun, 03 January 2021, 17:10:04 »
thats a great Rama. Nice work as always.

Thank you!!!

I think this will be THE set of 2021

Awwww I’m blushing. Thanks for the kind words, hope you all enjoy in person.

I've never bothered to post before, but I'll continue to shill for this set. A+ design

You rock.

I hope this goes to GB because I'm ALL about it.

It will be in GB starting in less than a month!

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #139 on: Sun, 03 January 2021, 20:11:19 »
Modern set. will look good on ewhite keyboard. Reminds me of  the inside of a small living space with lots of windows
It is just a bit off putting for me to see it on things that are not white or blue

but it is a good design and a good concept and I am glad to see that it is going to GB.
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Re: [IC] GMK Birch, a keyset inspired by mid-century modern design
« Reply #140 on: Mon, 04 January 2021, 04:55:20 »
That is just a gorgeous RAMA. I want that in my basket ASAP.

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« Reply #141 on: Mon, 04 January 2021, 05:47:29 »
These are really calming colors for those though wfh days! Nice work!

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« Reply #142 on: Mon, 04 January 2021, 06:03:30 »
The inclusion of mod pipe and mod tilde make this an instant buy for me.  One of the better sets I’ve seen as of late.  Great work break!

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« Reply #143 on: Tue, 12 January 2021, 08:37:54 »

I need this set with violence  :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch - quoting kits now, GB February 2020
« Reply #144 on: Tue, 12 January 2021, 11:01:31 »
Hi everyone! I have finished updating kitting for GMK Birch. These updates have been submitted to GMK for quoting, and you can see them below.

The most notable change is the inclusion of an extremely light 40s kit (accents are even excluded, to bring the price down as much as possible), which is tentatively offered pending GMK quoting. I am concerned about not hitting 100 MOQ with this kit, but a lot of friends would like to use Birch with their 40% boards.

Anyway, this is the home stretch! Once GMK replies with quotes and kitting is confirmed, I will share pricing.





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« Reply #145 on: Tue, 12 January 2021, 14:57:15 »
Great job, I'll buy it  :cool:

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch - quoting kits now, GB February 2020
« Reply #146 on: Tue, 12 January 2021, 16:00:27 »
colors look nice!

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch - quoting kits now, GB February 2020
« Reply #147 on: Tue, 12 January 2021, 16:01:49 »
I'm glad to see some 40's support so thank you for that.
My only gripe (considering that it's supposed to be a light kit) is that if your 40's kit has fewer keys than your spacebars kit, you should probably just go ahead and just roll them into the same kit. Or include 40's in some other kit instead of having it hang out there by itself. Making a separate kit just increases the cost of the whole set. Sticking that 40's and spacebars together means that you wind up with a $40-$45 all inclusive kit instead of a $28 spacebar and $25 40's kit, and then you don't even need to worry so much about MOQ of either.

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Re: [IC] GMK Birch - quoting kits now, GB February 2020
« Reply #148 on: Tue, 12 January 2021, 16:45:21 »
I'm glad to see some 40's support so thank you for that.
My only gripe (considering that it's supposed to be a light kit) is that if your 40's kit has fewer keys than your spacebars kit, you should probably just go ahead and just roll them into the same kit. Or include 40's in some other kit instead of having it hang out there by itself. Making a separate kit just increases the cost of the whole set. Sticking that 40's and spacebars together means that you wind up with a $40-$45 all inclusive kit instead of a $28 spacebar and $25 40's kit, and then you don't even need to worry so much about MOQ of either.

Thanks for this thoughtful comment. Usually folks hate the "kitchen sink" / omnibus style of extension kit! Also, Spacebars has 10 keys, Forties has 13 keys.

Usually designers don't discuss their data and reasoning at length, but (as my poor friends can tell you) I'm a transparent and chatty guy. So you're getting a wall of text. Apologies in advance. ;)

I designed this updated kitting with the average user's expected out-the-door cost and price-sensitivity in mind. I've been asked to drop less common keys and even numpad in some instances. So folks are very concerned about this set's GB price. That said, 22% of respondents wanted Forties or Spacebars, but not both. Both Spacebars and Forties? 7%. So an Omnibus kit saves money for 7% of customers, while driving up prices for three times as many customers.

Note that 22% is understated, because I moved accent spacebars out of base kit. Users who want lazurite blue aesthetics must now buy Spacebars. With an Omnibus kit those users would pay a lot just to get the bars I pulled out. That felt unfair, because I launched Birch's IC with accent spacebars in Base.

So, I'm adding a second B into base and offering two minimally-kitted child kits. Split users who don't care for blue aesthetics but bought an Adélie can get Forties; users who need that sweet lazurite blue bar or use Alice can pick up Spacebars. I hope and think there's enough support to hit MOQ on those child kits, so I believe both kits will be made, but the GB will ultimately show me what's up.

Thanks for getting this far - cheers.
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Re: [IC] GMK Birch - quoting kits now, GB February 2020
« Reply #149 on: Wed, 13 January 2021, 00:58:59 »
I'm glad to see some 40's support so thank you for that.
My only gripe (considering that it's supposed to be a light kit) is that if your 40's kit has fewer keys than your spacebars kit, you should probably just go ahead and just roll them into the same kit. Or include 40's in some other kit instead of having it hang out there by itself. Making a separate kit just increases the cost of the whole set. Sticking that 40's and spacebars together means that you wind up with a $40-$45 all inclusive kit instead of a $28 spacebar and $25 40's kit, and then you don't even need to worry so much about MOQ of either.

Thanks for this thoughtful comment. Usually folks hate the "kitchen sink" / omnibus style of extension kit! Also, Spacebars has 10 keys, Forties has 13 keys.

Usually designers don't discuss their data and reasoning at length, but (as my poor friends can tell you) I'm a transparent and chatty guy. So you're getting a wall of text. Apologies in advance. ;)

I designed this updated kitting with the average user's expected out-the-door cost and price-sensitivity in mind. I've been asked to drop less common keys and even numpad in some instances. So folks are very concerned about this set's GB price. That said, 22% of respondents wanted Forties or Spacebars, but not both. Both Spacebars and Forties? 7%. So an Omnibus kit saves money for 7% of customers, while driving up prices for three times as many customers.

Note that 22% is understated, because I moved accent spacebars out of base kit. Users who want lazurite blue aesthetics must now buy Spacebars. With an Omnibus kit those users would pay a lot just to get the bars I pulled out. That felt unfair, because I launched Birch's IC with accent spacebars in Base.

So, I'm adding a second B into base and offering two minimally-kitted child kits. Split users who don't care for blue aesthetics but bought an Adélie can get Forties; users who need that sweet lazurite blue bar or use Alice can pick up Spacebars. I hope and think there's enough support to hit MOQ on those child kits, so I believe both kits will be made, but the GB will ultimately show me what's up.

Thanks for getting this far - cheers.
Well I hate that you moved accent space bars out of base kit, I think keeping that one 6.25 accent space bar in base is better since it's that standard and most pupolar size. Since you already sent to Gmk for quote, it's probably late for a change. Still, nice set.