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Offline sartori24

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[IC] S66 \\ NEW PROTOS! YAY
« on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 04:37:21 »
S66
Designed by sartori.works
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Inspiration
The S66 is a new take on the 660 layout, with the arrows as a separated cluster.
For me, the 660 layout is one of my favorites and the separated
arrows make accessing them slightly easier.
Please fill out the IC form here: https://forms.gle/UnQA5nDvM2HkEM7M7

Features
The S66 has a top and bottom fully CNC machined out of 6063 aluminium for superior build quality.
A massive brass internal weight, spanning the entire board, allows extra density for the best possible sound quality and resonance, while at the same time adding a bit of extra heft.
 By default the S66 will have an included aluminium plate, or you can make an upgrade to brass. It has the ability to be burger mounted as well, with the included O rings. The plate only screws in at 4 points in the topcase, allowing for more flex and a slightly softer typing feel. The PCB, designed by jtallbean, features a centered USB-C port as well as VIA compatibility (from sillyworld) and ESD protection. In the GB, you will be able to upgrade to case foam for a new sound signature and a carrying case to protect the board.

Specifications
6063 aluminium top and bottom case
Color options for case: New color poll soon!
5 degree typing angle
Aluminium 1.5mm plate, or 1.5mm brass
Plate file made public after GB
Top or burger mount with 4 mounting points
Internal brass weight
USB-C, QMK, ESD protection
Price: $385-425 depending on config
GB Units: 40 GB units, extras after
Supported Layouts

Prototype
New prototype photos!:
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Here are some old prototype images and a sound test.
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More renders!
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Anything Else?
This is my first IC and I would love your feedback on it.
If you have any issues, problems or questions please don't hesitate to contact me at sartori24#1984 on discord.
Thanks again for reading!
« Last Edit: Tue, 24 November 2020, 23:53:29 by sartori24 »
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Psuedo Gasket Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #1 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 04:42:50 »
Would be nice if the PCB support a standard bottom row too for a 6.25 spacebar.

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Psuedo Gasket Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #2 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 04:50:42 »
Would be nice if the PCB support a standard bottom row too for a 6.25 spacebar.

I can't do a fully standard bottom row with all 1.25u keys, but I can do 3x1.25u, 1x6.25u, 2x1.5u.
Thanks for the feedback!
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Psuedo Gasket Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #3 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 05:03:40 »
any pictures of the plate avail?

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Psuedo Gasket Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #4 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 05:06:09 »
any pictures of the plate avail?

I will update some renders of the plate ASAP! Just keep in mind I might slightly change it as time goes on - adding flex cuts or possible a half plate.
« Last Edit: Wed, 29 July 2020, 01:53:05 by sartori24 »
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Psuedo Gasket Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #5 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 05:17:50 »
If I weren't already in the other 66 GB I'd be interested

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Psuedo Gasket Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #6 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 09:11:29 »
would love to get a better look at the brass weight design but so far so good.

please consider adding these on the PCB:

- QMK support
- ESD Protection
- USB-C connector

IC form submitted.
« Last Edit: Tue, 21 July 2020, 09:57:10 by Kinesiologist »

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Psuedo Gasket Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #7 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 09:44:32 »
I can't do a fully standard bottom row with all 1.25u keys, but I can do 3x1.25u, 1x6.25u, 2x1.5u.

This is a standard bottom row for 65%, 75%, 1800/CP and 96-key boards (anything with a 1.75u RShift and arrow keys). A winkey bottom row option like this would be nice to have.


In my eyes, this is more of a 65% board than a true 66-key.
« Last Edit: Tue, 21 July 2020, 09:51:03 by konstantin »

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Psuedo Gasket Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #8 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 09:59:43 »
Split space compatibility?

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Psuedo Gasket Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #9 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 11:40:25 »
The renders look early. Would like to see more renders of details like USB port shape and weight design. Thereís an opportunity to make a sartorial-themed board here.

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Psuedo Gasket Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #10 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 16:19:34 »
I like it. I think this mounting style is generally referred to as "burger mount".

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Pseudo Gasket Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #11 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 17:48:19 »
Split space compatibility?

I'm open to doing that. By split space what would your preferred configuration be?

would love to get a better look at the brass weight design but so far so good.

please consider adding these on the PCB:

- QMK support
- ESD Protection
- USB-C connector

IC form submitted.

The PCB is still in the designing phase, but it will be USB-C. It will have QMK or VIA. As for ESD protection, I am contemplating using a daughterboard. Either way there should still be some form of ESD protection.

The renders look early. Would like to see more renders of details like USB port shape and weight design. Thereís an opportunity to make a sartorial-themed board here.

Yes, sadly, the renders are quite early. I will update with new renders once I get them done.

I like it. I think this mounting style is generally referred to as "burger mount".

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #12 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 18:27:25 »
Design looks good.  :thumb:

Hope you don't get death threats like that one poor guy for not having more complete renders/details. Would you also consider polycarbonate as a plate material?
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #13 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 18:34:41 »
Design looks good.  :thumb:

Hope you don't get death threats like that one poor guy for not having more complete renders/details. Would you also consider polycarbonate as a plate material?

Adding a polycarb plate should be fine. I'll update the IC now. As for the death threats... that is concerning  :eek:
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Psuedo Gasket Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #14 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 23:18:45 »
If I weren't already in the other 66 GB I'd be interested

That's a pity.
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #15 on: Tue, 21 July 2020, 23:48:59 »
I am definitely interested (and love the default layout) .

Listen to the feedback, but build the board you desire. There will be enough people to make this reality if you stick to the basics and do not try to please everyone.

Good luck.


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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #16 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 00:29:32 »
Design looks good.  :thumb:

Hope you don't get death threats like that one poor guy for not having more complete renders/details. Would you also consider polycarbonate as a plate material?

wait, what?

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #17 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 01:20:47 »
Design looks good.  :thumb:

Hope you don't get death threats like that one poor guy for not having more complete renders/details. Would you also consider polycarbonate as a plate material?

wait, what?

Someone made an IC for a board that had rough renders; lack of usb cutout, screws, some design flaws. There were a bunch of new accounts that weren't offering criticism beyond "looks like ****" and insulting the designer. He ended up taking down the IC because of death threats being sent.
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #18 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 02:58:35 »
Design looks good.  :thumb:

Hope you don't get death threats like that one poor guy for not having more complete renders/details. Would you also consider polycarbonate as a plate material?

wait, what?

Someone made an IC for a board that had rough renders; lack of usb cutout, screws, some design flaws. There were a bunch of new accounts that weren't offering criticism beyond "looks like ****" and insulting the designer. He ended up taking down the IC because of death threats being sent.

It turns out that it was a person who I knew from discord. What a turn of events!
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #19 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 03:15:07 »
Carbon fiber plate?

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #20 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 03:16:10 »
Carbon fiber plate?

I will add this to the IC form. If there is enough interest I will.
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #21 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 05:04:44 »
Really classy, well proportioned design. Nice low angle too; will be following this closely!

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #22 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 05:18:16 »
Nice simple and classy, though the seam looks quite prominent in the top render, not sure about that.

Still, I look forward to seeing more renders as I'm a sucker for that separated arrows and pair of function keys design.
         
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #23 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 06:10:34 »
Nice simple and classy, though the seam looks quite prominent in the top render, not sure about that.

Still, I look forward to seeing more renders as I'm a sucker for that separated arrows and pair of function keys design.

Thanks for the kind words! I am talking with a manufacturer about making it cheaper to get produced. This might result in some changes (mainly the top case becoming taller and the bottom case becoming shorter - the whole thing will still be the same height, just slightly different proportions)
Ill update with more renders soon though!
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #24 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 08:20:03 »
Nice, hope to get a hotswap option

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #25 on: Wed, 22 July 2020, 22:30:53 »
Nice, hope to get a hotswap option

Hopefully should be able to!
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #26 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 09:09:29 »
Any chance for an engraving or something on the empty space on the right?

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #27 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 00:52:35 »
Any chance for an engraving or something on the empty space on the right?

Tell me what you would like in the IC form please!
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« Reply #28 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 22:58:17 »
Very nice. GLWIC! :thumb:

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #29 on: Tue, 04 August 2020, 04:13:34 »
First of all good luck for your first IC.

This is my opinion:

-6061 aluminium is bad espacially at this price point, you should aim at 6063.
-The design is really sleek I love it
-Plate choices is nice but not necessary ( You could decrease the choice and make the plate file public after the fulfilment)
-ISO support is nice
-Foam should be an option
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #30 on: Tue, 04 August 2020, 04:29:33 »
First of all good luck for your first IC.

This is my opinion:

-6061 aluminium is bad espacially at this price point, you should aim at 6063.
-The design is really sleek I love it
-Plate choices is nice but not necessary ( You could decrease the choice and make the plate file public after the fulfilment)
-ISO support is nice
-Foam should be an option
Hey, thanks for the kind words, I really appreciate it! I am glad you like the design. Those plate choices are just for now in the IC, to gauge what people want and I will most likely offer only the 2/3 most popular (same with finishes). I may make the plate file public after the GB is over. Foam most likely will be an option in the GB. As for the aluminium - I am in touch with manufacturers to see what they think is best. Keep in mind that "under $500" is a very early estimate. I think that there is a high chance that it is going to be closer to $400 than 500. I just do not want to underestimate costs and leave a bit of room for things like QC and such.
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #31 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 01:02:17 »
The current Lander is great and wants no more change.
If the price is $400 to $450, I will definitely participate.

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 10:44:44 »
But I hope the user can choose the bottom layout.
I suggest the layout of the picture below.





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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 08:35:31 »
IC form submitted.

The picture you have on top of the IC form is cool.  :D

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 17:04:37 »
I'd love to see more color options. I have enough grey, silver, black, and blue boards. Perhaps red, purple, yellow, or green option?

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 22:34:53 »
I'd love to see more color options. I have enough grey, silver, black, and blue boards. Perhaps red, purple, yellow, or green option?

I'd be happy to add more color options but keep in mind that each color option will need to hit MOQ.
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Re: [IC] The S66 - 660 with Separated Arrow // PROTOS ORDERED!
« Reply #36 on: Tue, 18 August 2020, 18:55:31 »
Looks nice. Will the pcb have ESD protection?

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Re: [IC] The S66 - 660 with Separated Arrow // PROTOS ORDERED!
« Reply #37 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 04:05:30 »
Looks nice. Will the pcb have ESD protection?

Currently the prototype one doesn't. If there is a need for it it will be implemented.
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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #38 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 08:45:29 »
First of all good luck for your first IC.

This is my opinion:

-6061 aluminium is bad espacially at this price point, you should aim at 6063.
-The design is really sleek I love it
-Plate choices is nice but not necessary ( You could decrease the choice and make the plate file public after the fulfilment)
-ISO support is nice
-Foam should be an option

I honestly canít tell the difference between the 606X versions and should not be a factor as you will most like not be able to tell either. More expensive aluminum will not equal a better board. Iíve read somewhere 6063 has problems with anodization so yeah. If OP hasnít shared what quality alu heíll use you wouldnít have brought it up. Just my two cents.

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Re: [IC] The S66 - A Burger Mount 660 With Separated Arrows
« Reply #39 on: Sat, 29 August 2020, 18:09:09 »
First of all good luck for your first IC.

This is my opinion:

-6061 aluminium is bad espacially at this price point, you should aim at 6063.
-The design is really sleek I love it
-Plate choices is nice but not necessary ( You could decrease the choice and make the plate file public after the fulfilment)
-ISO support is nice
-Foam should be an option

I honestly canít tell the difference between the 606X versions and should not be a factor as you will most like not be able to tell either. More expensive aluminum will not equal a better board. Iíve read somewhere 6063 has problems with anodization so yeah. If OP hasnít shared what quality alu heíll use you wouldnít have brought it up. Just my two cents.

The price difference between the two grades is negligible. I will go with 6063 as I personally have heard of better experiences with it, but like you said, the physical difference will probably be very small too.
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Re: [IC] S66 || Proto Photos !!
« Reply #40 on: Sun, 06 September 2020, 19:58:49 »
PROTO UPDATE
I am updating this just to let you all know the prototypes have been finished! They are being shipped to me right now.
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Re: [IC] S66 || 660 with separated arrows
« Reply #41 on: Sat, 12 September 2020, 20:04:06 »
I really like how clean this is. So superficial BS. However I really want a hot swap version. Additionally as primarily a Mac user, I need 3 keys left of the spacebar (control, option, command). My muscle memory can't do without all three keys.

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Re: [IC] S66 || 660 with separated arrows
« Reply #42 on: Sat, 12 September 2020, 20:11:58 »
Project is shaping up nicely - good job! looking forward to whats next

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Re: [IC] S66 || 660 with separated arrows
« Reply #43 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 02:40:40 »
I really like how clean this is. So superficial BS. However I really want a hot swap version. Additionally as primarily a Mac user, I need 3 keys left of the spacebar (control, option, command). My muscle memory can't do without all three keys.

I'm glad you like the design. I most likely wont offer hotswap, as the demand isn't really enough, there is still a slim chance though. As for the layout, I will make the plate/pcb files public after GB, so you can edit the layout as much as you like.
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Re: [IC] The S66 - 660 with Separated Arrow // PROTOS ORDERED!
« Reply #44 on: Sun, 13 September 2020, 23:43:29 »
Looks nice. Will the pcb have ESD protection?

My mistake! It does in fact ESD protection, sorry for the false info.
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Re: [IC] S66 || 660 with separated arrows
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 14 September 2020, 20:17:00 »
Hi everyone, I am updating to just let you all know that the prototype has arrived, excluding the PCBs. It turned out really well and I can't wait until the pcb arrives.
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Re: [IC] S66 || Prototype Photos
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 21 September 2020, 06:28:22 »
New Update!
Still waiting on PCB, situation explained in my discord. I have ordered more plates (alu and SS) so I can test out some more combos for you guys!
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Re: [IC] S66 || Prototype Photos
« Reply #47 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 07:21:37 »
PROTO UPDATE
Both the plates and PCBs have arrived, and I am typing on the s66 right now! I really am enjoying the feel and layout. I will update tomorrow morning with sound tests and photos.
There were a couple improvements that will be made in the final board:
1) The USB cutout will be bigger, allowing for more flex without damaging the physical port, and allowing for more room if you choose to burger mount it with the included o rings.
2) The spacebar is a little loud, so there will be flex cuts in the final plate around the spacebar.
Both changes have been made as of now, and I am finalizing the details for the GB.
Thanks everyone for the continued support, and I can't wait to get this board out to you guys!
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Re: [IC] S66 || SEP 29 PROTO UPDATE
« Reply #48 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 20:34:39 »
Hi everyone, I am updating to show this sound test. It is now in the main post aswell.
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Re: [IC] S66 || SEP 29 PROTO UPDATE
« Reply #49 on: Tue, 29 September 2020, 22:31:59 »
looking good!