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Offline Skok

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[IC] GMK Norse
« on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:06:18 »


This is the updated form for Runic Alphas. Please fill out the form again if you have already done it. Leaving the old one up for reference. https://forms.gle/epxubj7nRJfAo7rKA

UPDATES


July 23, 2020: Definitely going to need to do some clean up with the renders and fix the kitting for the set in the next few days.
July 24, 2020:
  • Updated base kit render to fix ISO support and added Alpha colored spacebar.
  • Moved R1 PgDn and End keys to Numpad Kit. (will update render later today)
  • Added Isometria 75 Render
  • Added render with all blue mods and Alpha grey spacebar
  • Fixing kitting in the next couple days
  • Added new google form for Runic Alphas
  • So after seeing the feedback in the IC form and talking to some people about it I have decided to give Runic alphas a shot!
July 25, 2020: Fixed kitting on base kit.
July 26, 2020 Runic Alphas are now officially in the works. Renders will be up as soon as they become available in the next few days hopefully. Added Deskmat renders.
July 27, 2020: Looking to hopefully have Runic Alpha renders up by Friday. Adding 2 more possible novelties.
July 31, 2020: Cut the Valknut novelty. Switched to stock colors except for RAL 220 20 10. Updating IC photos today
August 1, 2020: Bringing back old alpha color RAL 9004.
August 3, 2020: Google form answers have decided that the Runes will be used as Elder Futhark Mono-legends. I will fix the alpha color when I have the new renders complete within the week.
August 6, 2020: Power was out for the last two days due to a tropical storm so I am little behind on renders. New Vendors announced.
Inspiration
*All kit renders are files courtesy of Gtrx


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I was inspired by my friends who recommended me the Vikings TV Show as well as the announcement of Assasins Creed Valhalla to make this set and delve deeper into Norse culture and mythology.
The colors I decided on were ones that I saw in the trailer and TV show that I felt were subtle but contrasted well with each other.


Novelties


The text novelties are written Younger Futhark Runes, the alphabet of the Vikings. Each one having its own meaning corresponding to its placement on the keyboard.

The Escape key has word Aesir (ᛅᛋᛁᚱ) written on it which represents the pantheon of Norse Gods such as Odin, Frigg, Thor, Baldrr and more.
The Backspace key has the word Helhiem (ᚼᚭᛚᚼᛁᛘᛆ) which is the Realm of Death in Norse mythology.
The Enter key has the word Midgard (ᛘᛁᛏᚴᚱᛏ) which is the name for Earth

The icon novelties are based on symbols in Norse mythology.
The Two Ravens that fly over Midgard and gather information for Odin
Thor's Hammer, Mjolnir.
The Helm of Awe
Viking Axe

NorDeUk
The NorDeUk kit adds support for these languages: Norwegian, British, German, Danish.


Numpad Kit


Spacebars
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Renders
More coming soon!
Iron165 by CannonKeys and Smith + Rune


Isometria by Ebastler



Deskmat
Credit to Prkns for Deskmat file.

Price
TBA

Vendors
Canada: Deskhero.ca
Norway: Mekanisktastatur.no
Asia: en.Zfrontier.com
Europe:Candykeys.com
Oceania:Dailyclack.com
North America: TBA




This form is for those interested in Rune Alphas: https://forms.gle/pwLgEbdqYDiP6Kai7

Please fill out this form if you are interested and leave any feedback you deem necessary to make this a better set. It really helps.

To-Do List
Finish Deskmat and Renders in next couple days
Reach out to Vendors
Get Quotes


Special Thanks
Ulliam for designing novelties and general help and advice for the set. Great guy and great to work with.
Everyone in the keycap designers discord for helping me along the way.
« Last Edit: Thu, 06 August 2020, 10:35:28 by Skok »

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #1 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:09:52 »
I absolutely adore this, well done!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #2 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:11:53 »
I dig this a lot.

Also, for those into this stuff, Vinland Saga was a great anime series.

Offline L8T

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #3 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:12:41 »
No offense to the GMK Birch designer but this is exactly what i wanted that set to look like! Im so glad you decided to run this, it looks stunning! GL with the IC <3

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #4 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:15:53 »
I like this a lot  ;D

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #5 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:29:36 »
Wow, this is beautiful. Good luck with the ic.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #6 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:35:45 »
1.5u novelties please!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #7 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:35:57 »
Really lovely colours. Nice set.

Offline Banur

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #8 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:36:28 »
Where did you get the runes/ words from?
They are not Elder Futhark, but look like Younger Futhark:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Futhark

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #9 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:38:36 »
this is hot, +1 for 1.5u novelties and possibly RAL 220 20 10 spacebars please?

Offline Skok

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #10 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:41:15 »
Where did you get the runes/ words from?
They are not Elder Futhark, but look like Younger Futhark:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Futhark

I got them from my novelty designer. I'll take a look and update the IC. I may have made a mistake

Offline Skok

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #11 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 13:49:40 »
this is hot, +1 for 1.5u novelties and possibly RAL 220 20 10 spacebars please?

Yeah will definitely look into adding another spacebar option. Its a popular request on the google form so far.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #12 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:01:30 »
What's up with not having alpha colored spacebars in base :(

Offline Skok

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #13 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:08:10 »
What's up with not having alpha colored spacebars in base :(

Will for sure update that tonight after work or tomorrow morning. Based on feedback it was a pretty big oversight. It'll be there though!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #14 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:10:54 »
I absolutely adore this, well done!

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No way! GMK Sparta is one of my favorite looking sets! I definitely took inspiration from it. Any plans to give the groupbuy another go for the set?

Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #15 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:20:23 »
this is great
alpha colored split bars somewhere?

Offline nu_types

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #16 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:37:53 »
Not sure if it's on purpose, but the base kit is missing a 1.75u shift. I see what looks to be a 2u shift and an extra 2.25u. Also, please consider keeping the 2u shift.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #17 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:54:23 »
Is there an option for a regular black spacebar?

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #18 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 14:55:20 »
Love the colors, wish there was an alpha colored spacebar.

Offline Llamakob

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #19 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:00:19 »
Looks real good, defo in for novelties, love the vegvisir noveltie
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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #20 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:07:23 »
Very nice

Offline Skok

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #21 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:40:06 »
Is there an option for a regular black spacebar?

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There will be. Will fix when I get back from work

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #22 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:40:46 »
Not sure if it's on purpose, but the base kit is missing a 1.75u shift. I see what looks to be a 2u shift and an extra 2.25u. Also, please consider keeping the 2u shift.
Yeah I'll look into that and check it out when I get home from work.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #23 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:49:44 »
No offense to the GMK Birch designer but this is exactly what i wanted that set to look like! Im so glad you decided to run this, it looks stunning! GL with the IC <3

No offense taken. ;) This is a lovely set and I would have been thrilled to design it. Especially the novelties!

Fantastic job, Skok - best of luck with IC, looking forward to more details here. Happy to see a full NorDe kit as well as black spacebars incoming.
« Last Edit: Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:52:32 by break »

Offline bukowski

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #24 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 15:53:49 »
What a great design. And it supports NorDeUK as every kit should imo. I would be in!

Offline Sabin

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #25 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 17:42:41 »
Submitted a form but thought I'd mention it here:

How would you feel about having more novelties which relate to viking combat? I personally would have to have a selection of novelties for things like weapons (swords, axe, bow etc.) a shield, a helmet. The novelties for the gods are great. I think that would be pretty cool.

Also, one last thing: This may get hated on...but I personally love sublegends. I think having a set with Latin Alphas and Rune sublegends would be sick! Please consider it as an add on...or even the base set if popular enough!

Hope you'll consider the suggestions and love the colour scheme personally, I reallt hope it goes through to GB.
« Last Edit: Thu, 23 July 2020, 17:44:31 by Sabin »

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #26 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 17:47:16 »
keycaps designer discord?

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #27 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 17:50:46 »
Love the color combinations!

Offline Owl

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #28 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:39:45 »
Colors are interesting, well coordinated, contrasting without feeling far apart. Normally 5 color sets feel like there's way too much going on but in this, the combinations are so subtle and pleasing. Creates a sense of depth without overwhelming the eyes. Novelties add to the depth even more. Really fantastic work here. Also like that you kept the focus of the set general instead of diving too deep into the inspiration. I can tell a lot of thought and work went into this. Fantastic job.

Offline Nadine

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #29 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 18:50:29 »
Omg, this is my dream set. Please, introduce runic keycaps! I am begging you.

Offline Clay333

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #30 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 19:11:27 »
I like it. Probably won't be picking it up myself because it really wouldn't match my setup but it's a great looking set with tones that are not used often.

Offline fooddoof

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #31 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 19:30:45 »
Oh this. I love this. Love the runic novs, +1 for runic caps too

Offline konstantin

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #32 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 20:07:07 »
The kits could use some work.

For example, there are ISO Enter keys in the base kit, but they aren't accompanied by the other three ISO keys (1.25u Shift, R3 \|, R4 <>) that are required for ISO support to be functional.
There are R1 PgDn and End keys, but they are only ever used with numpads and so would be better suited for the numpad kit.
There are 1.75u, second 2u and second 1u spacekeys in the spacebars kit, which are only ever used on 40% keyboards, but this set doesn't have 40% support.

Here are some GMK sets with good numpadless base kits that you can use as a reference for kitting: GMK Firefly, GMK Bleached, GMK Hennessey, GMK Yugo.

That being said: I like the theme of this set, although I'm not 100% sold on the colors.
« Last Edit: Thu, 23 July 2020, 20:19:40 by konstantin »

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #33 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 20:43:06 »
super nice. Looking forward to the deskmat

Offline Skok

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #34 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 21:06:36 »
The kits could use some work.

For example, there are ISO Enter keys in the base kit, but they aren't accompanied by the other three ISO keys (1.25u Shift, R3 \|, R4 <>) that are required for ISO support to be functional.
There are R1 PgDn and End keys, but they are only ever used with numpads and so would be better suited for the numpad kit.
There are 1.75u, second 2u and second 1u spacekeys in the spacebars kit, which are only ever used on 40% keyboards, but this set doesn't have 40% support.

Here are some GMK sets with good numpadless base kits that you can use as a reference for kitting: GMK Firefly, GMK Bleached, GMK Hennessey, GMK Yugo.

That being said: I like the theme of this set, although I'm not 100% sold on the colors.
THANK YOU FOR THIS. While I was doing the kitting I was looking at tons of other base kits trying to figure out what was most popular and also what I needed for mine to make sense. I still missed the mark a bit, but it will be fixed in the coming days, either tomorrow or some time early next week at the very latest.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #35 on: Thu, 23 July 2020, 23:48:28 »
Colors are interesting, well coordinated, contrasting without feeling far apart. Normally 5 color sets feel like there's way too much going on but in this, the combinations are so subtle and pleasing. Creates a sense of depth without overwhelming the eyes. Novelties add to the depth even more. Really fantastic work here. Also like that you kept the focus of the set general instead of diving too deep into the inspiration. I can tell a lot of thought and work went into this. Fantastic job.
Thank you. The colors took a while to get right especially when it came to color matching RAL. I may add a few more novelites based on the responses I've gotten in the Google form but I think as it stands right now I have a solid line up that is pleasing no matter which icons/colors you prefer.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #36 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 02:28:29 »
Looks great!

Is it possible to add 1u R4 novelties, for HHKB/Tsangan layout?
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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #37 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 03:12:50 »
Color me interested.

I'm going to assume the base kit render is incomplete because there's no sign of a 1.75u Shift (even though it's seen on the Iron165 render).

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #38 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 03:16:48 »
Looks nice, I kinda like it :) Alpha colored spacebars would be nice though.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #39 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 03:36:45 »
Rune mono legends would be amazing. Sub-legends just look messy to me.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #40 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 04:00:47 »
Gimme

Offline crusader_alex

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #41 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 04:05:01 »
I absolutely adore this, well done!

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No way! GMK Sparta is one of my favorite looking sets! I definitely took inspiration from it. Any plans to give the groupbuy another go for the set?
Appreciate the kind words mate! This set is lovely as well, the color combos are absolutely beautiful. I've been looking forward to a Norse themed set for quite some time haha.

+1 for the alpha colored spacebar btw.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #42 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 05:53:19 »
Oh I didn't see. Yeah, if alpha colored spacebars aren't in base, this is a no buy.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #43 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 06:04:26 »
Oh I didn't see. Yeah, if alpha colored spacebars aren't in base, this is a no buy.
They will be there! Once I fix the kitting as aforementioned. I will also add the renders with the alpha colored spacebar

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #44 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 06:06:22 »
Color me interested.

I'm going to assume the base kit render is incomplete because there's no sign of a 1.75u Shift (even though it's seen on the Iron165 render).
Yeah some mistakes were made. Going to yse the feedback I got yesterday to fix my mistakes. Thank you for pointing that out!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #45 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 07:48:10 »
Also for a ISO enter noveltie idea, how about yggdrasil, as it's a tree and the ISO enter is vertical that could go together real good. For another enter or many even spacebar noveltie how about Jörmungandr which in English is the midgard serpent . I really think those two could become really good novelties
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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #46 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 08:00:58 »
I really like this

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #47 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 09:42:13 »
Very nice! Love the theme and think the colors are fantastic.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #48 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 10:26:34 »
Oh, I love this, especially the mod color and the accent spacebar!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #49 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 10:57:26 »
The kits could use some work.

For example, there are ISO Enter keys in the base kit, but they aren't accompanied by the other three ISO keys (1.25u Shift, R3 \|, R4 <>) that are required for ISO support to be functional.
There are R1 PgDn and End keys, but they are only ever used with numpads and so would be better suited for the numpad kit.
There are 1.75u, second 2u and second 1u spacekeys in the spacebars kit, which are only ever used on 40% keyboards, but this set doesn't have 40% support.

Here are some GMK sets with good numpadless base kits that you can use as a reference for kitting: GMK Firefly, GMK Bleached, GMK Hennessey, GMK Yugo.

That being said: I like the theme of this set, although I'm not 100% sold on the colors.
THANK YOU FOR THIS. While I was doing the kitting I was looking at tons of other base kits trying to figure out what was most popular and also what I needed for mine to make sense. I still missed the mark a bit, but it will be fixed in the coming days, either tomorrow or some time early next week at the very latest.

You're welcome. GMK ThinkCaps is another such set with good kitting.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #50 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 14:16:24 »
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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #51 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 14:28:05 »
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Geekhack keeps giving me a 413 error resulting in my IC to not have pictures. Should be fixed now

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #52 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 14:59:58 »
Love the base and spacbar, can't wait to see what other concepts you come up with.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #53 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 15:11:56 »
Submitted a form but thought I'd mention it here:

How would you feel about having more novelties which relate to viking combat? I personally would have to have a selection of novelties for things like weapons (swords, axe, bow etc.) a shield, a helmet. The novelties for the gods are great. I think that would be pretty cool.

Also, one last thing: This may get hated on...but I personally love sublegends. I think having a set with Latin Alphas and Rune sublegends would be sick! Please consider it as an add on...or even the base set if popular enough!

Hope you'll consider the suggestions and love the colour scheme personally, I reallt hope it goes through to GB.

I am considering adding a few more novelties including weapons of some sort. As for my response for the Rune alphas/sublegends. Since this is GMK they would have to make new molds for each sublegend which would be incredibly expensive. I would also have to go in and design them from the ground up to avoid any licensing/copyright issues. Now I am not opposed to it completely but a lot more work needs to be done before I go all in on the idea. Based on the responses in my IC form I'll look into it. Thank you!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #54 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 15:34:41 »
Submitted a form but thought I'd mention it here:

How would you feel about having more novelties which relate to viking combat? I personally would have to have a selection of novelties for things like weapons (swords, axe, bow etc.) a shield, a helmet. The novelties for the gods are great. I think that would be pretty cool.

Also, one last thing: This may get hated on...but I personally love sublegends. I think having a set with Latin Alphas and Rune sublegends would be sick! Please consider it as an add on...or even the base set if popular enough!

Hope you'll consider the suggestions and love the colour scheme personally, I reallt hope it goes through to GB.

I am considering adding a few more novelties including weapons of some sort. As for my response for the Rune alphas/sublegends. Since this is GMK they would have to make new molds for each sublegend which would be incredibly expensive. I would also have to go in and design them from the ground up to avoid any licensing/copyright issues. Now I am not opposed to it completely but a lot more work needs to be done before I go all in on the idea. Based on the responses in my IC form I'll look into it. Thank you!

Awesome looking forward to seeing the new novelties. Ah I understand. I would be interested in paying more for them as it'll make it a truly unique set, but understand if it is not feasible! Appreciate the reply.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #55 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 16:14:48 »
Love the base and spacbar, can't wait to see what other concepts you come up with.

Thank you! Make sure to come back in the next week or two as I'll be making changes based on community feedback.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #56 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 17:47:55 »
Geekhack keeps giving me a 413 error resulting in my IC to not have pictures. Should be fixed now

It's recommended to use Imgur (or another image hosting service of your choice; Imgur has some limitations) rather than upload images directly to Geekhack. It makes the browsing experience better on both desktop and mobile (Tapatalk).

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #57 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 18:01:41 »

Suggestions for the updated base kit:
  • Change second R4 1u Ctrl to Alt — one of each is required.
  • Change Prt Sc to Print — looks cleaner.
  • Change R3 1u #~ to \|.
  • Change R4 1u <>| to <> (remove sublegend).
  • Remove R4 1u \| — only one R4 ISO key is needed.
  • Add R3 Pg Up, R4 Pg Dn — extended 65%/75% support for some popular layouts.
  • Add R4 1.75u Shift — required for many different layouts, a must.
  • Add mod-colored R2 1.5u \| — alternative to regular \|, similar to mod-colored `~.
  • (optional) Change Scroll↲Lock to Scroll or Lock, and Num↲Lock to Num — looks cleaner.

Offline Skok

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #58 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 18:07:07 »

Suggestions for the updated base kit:
  • Change second R4 1u Ctrl to Alt — one of each is required.
  • Change Prt Sc to Print — looks cleaner.
  • Change R3 1u #~ to \|.
  • Change R4 1u <>| to <> (remove sublegend).
  • Remove R4 1u \| — only one R4 ISO key is needed.
  • Add R3 Pg Up, R4 Pg Dn — extended 65%/75% support for some popular layouts.
  • Add R4 1.75u Shift — required for many different layouts, a must.
  • Add mod-colored R2 1.5u \| — alternative to regular \|, similar to mod-colored `~.
  • (optional) Change Scroll↲Lock to Scroll or Lock, and Num↲Lock to Num — looks cleaner.

Making these changes as we speak. Thank you

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #59 on: Fri, 24 July 2020, 21:42:01 »
Omg, this is my dream set. Please, introduce runic keycaps! I am begging you.

Updated IC. Runic caps are being designed as we speak.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #60 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 02:24:42 »
Was going to propose runic caps, but I see that somebody already did.
Also would you consider novelty cap for a spacebar?

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #61 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 04:52:34 »
I know you're working hard on the Rune alphas/sublegends but also thought I'd suggest a rama cap if it's something that interests you and others?

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #62 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 06:32:18 »
Count me in! Though I would really like an extra B in the spacebars set for alice-layout compatibility.

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« Reply #63 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 08:36:08 »
I know you're working hard on the Rune alphas/sublegends but also thought I'd suggest a rama cap if it's something that interests you and others?

Yeah I would for sure be interested in a RAMA collab. From what I have heard you need a full list of vendors before they work with you. But I will definitely try to make that happen!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #64 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 10:17:25 »
Very nice

Could you sort your pics though, two base kits showing different keys :P

If this has full UK ISO i'm in.

Love that rune mat, may have to get a spare or two :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #65 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 10:59:00 »
Very nice

Could you sort your pics though, two base kits showing different keys

If this has full UK ISO i'm in.

Love that rune mat, may have to get a spare or two :)
Yeah I gotta edit it when I get back home from work tonight. Sorry about that. I was fixing the ISO support and forget to remove the old image. Thank you and theres another deskmat in the works!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #66 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 11:09:50 »
Very nice

Could you sort your pics though, two base kits showing different keys

If this has full UK ISO i'm in.

Love that rune mat, may have to get a spare or two :)
Yeah I gotta edit it when I get back home from work tonight. Sorry about that. I was fixing the ISO support and forget to remove the old image. Thank you and theres another deskmat in the works!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #67 on: Sat, 25 July 2020, 11:18:46 »
100% following this.  :eek:

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #68 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 15:02:37 »
Am I missing something obvious or is there still not a 1.75u Shift in the updated base kit?

I see 1.25u, 1.5u, 2u, and an extra 2.25u, but no 1.75u.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #69 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 15:32:07 »
Am I missing something obvious or is there still not a 1.75u Shift in the updated base kit?

I see 1.25u, 1.5u, 2u, and an extra 2.25u, but no 1.75u.

Looks like it. 1.5u should be replaced with 1.75u.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #70 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 15:40:20 »
Need novelty that says Valhalla to replace capslock. In Latin or Runes

Capslock novelty is hella underrated. Just saying..

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #71 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 17:18:09 »
Oh man, I need to be pretty conscious with my wallet these days but for the right price I'd jump on these for sure. One of my favorite themes for sure and I love the colors. I'd likely rock it with the grey spacebar and green return, personally. Great work here.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #72 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 17:40:44 »
No gold 7U spacebar in the base kit?

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #73 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 21:17:04 »
Need novelty that says Valhalla to replace capslock. In Latin or Runes

Capslock novelty is hella underrated. Just saying..

hmmmmmm. duly noted

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #74 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 21:23:11 »
Am I missing something obvious or is there still not a 1.75u Shift in the updated base kit?

I see 1.25u, 1.5u, 2u, and an extra 2.25u, but no 1.75u.

Looks like it. 1.5u should be replaced with 1.75u.

I can't believe I messed that up again. I thought I had it right. I was stuck at work all day. I'll go back in tomorrow and fix it as well as clean up the rest of the IC.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #75 on: Sun, 26 July 2020, 22:24:19 »
As it looks in the renders, love the colour combo in this set.

I understand the complexity of going by rgb images on a monitor, however, I have a few question marks on whether the RAL colours are quoted/rendered correctly?
  • 9004 & 7040 looks warmer than the actual colour?
  • Is the accent colour meant to be RAL 60 50 10? Saturation looks light

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #76 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 11:24:15 »
No gold 7U spacebar in the base kit?

Good catch. Will fix in next update

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #77 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 18:13:32 »
Regarding the Jult 26th Update: "Runic Alphas are in the works"

Does that mean no Runic sublegends on the Latin alphas?

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #78 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 18:32:49 »
Regarding the Jult 26th Update: "Runic Alphas are in the works"

Does that mean no Runic sublegends on the Latin alphas?

Both are in the works, when those are finished and the IC is a bit more polished I'll make a post on reddit to drive more people to this thread fill out a form deciding between the alphas vs subs.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #79 on: Mon, 27 July 2020, 18:52:51 »
Regarding the Jult 26th Update: "Runic Alphas are in the works"

Does that mean no Runic sublegends on the Latin alphas?

Both are in the works, when those are finished and the IC is a bit more polished I'll make a post on reddit to drive more people to this thread fill out a form deciding between the alphas vs subs.
Ah okay, sounds good!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #80 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 09:16:55 »
Can't wait to see how the runic alphas will turn out! Is there any plan for ortho/obscure kit?

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« Reply #81 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 09:49:12 »
Can't wait to see how the runic alphas will turn out! Is there any plan for ortho/obscure kit?

To be honest I'm not sure yet. The google form I posted has had a 80/20 split between not having ortho versus having it. It was 138 who said no to ortho/40s and 31 that said yes. Once I get the Runic alpha renders, I'm going to post on Reddit to hopefully drive more people to fill out the form so I can get a better idea.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #82 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 10:24:57 »
Desk mat reminds me of a song i used to listen when i was younger

Would you consider a white on black variant ?

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« Reply #83 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 10:36:46 »
Desk mat reminds me of a song i used to listen when i was younger
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Would you consider a white on black variant ?

I was considering a black deskmat with beige text. to match the accent color

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #84 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 10:38:07 »
i like it!
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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #85 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 10:41:25 »
i like it!

Thank you! Stay tuned for Runic Alphas!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #86 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 12:27:14 »
The fact that you rendered the Isometria in isometric projection is honestly an amazing play on words.
Pretty set, I really like both the colors and the fact that you offer a NorDe set (well, would be kinda odd not to include scandinavian layouts in a scandinavian themed set^^).

Best of luck with the IC, and I hope to see this in GB soon  :thumb:

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #87 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 12:33:03 »
The fact that you rendered the Isometria in isometric projection is honestly an amazing play on words.
Pretty set, I really like both the colors and the fact that you offer a NorDe set (well, would be kinda odd not to include scandinavian layouts in a scandinavian themed set^^).

Best of luck with the IC, and I hope to see this in GB soon  :thumb:

Haha I wasn't thinking that when I did it. Also thank you for making the render files available, the set looks fantastic on your case!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #88 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 12:52:30 »
It really does, one of the best fitting GMK sets I've seen so far! May I post them over in my project thread? (or do you wanna do it yourself?)

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Also thank you for making the render files available
No problem, It makes me happy see people actually use my design for renders. Great feeling to see others appreciate your work.
I just hope I'll get the prototypes done soon-ish. I really wanna see the board outside of renders ._.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #89 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 19:08:27 »
Hope it'll be a deskmat for this, with a green accent
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« Reply #90 on: Tue, 28 July 2020, 19:28:08 »
It really does, one of the best fitting GMK sets I've seen so far! May I post them over in my project thread? (or do you wanna do it yourself?)

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Also thank you for making the render files available
No problem, It makes me happy see people actually use my design for renders. Great feeling to see others appreciate your work.
I just hope I'll get the prototypes done soon-ish. I really wanna see the board outside of renders ._.
Yeah post them. Sounds like a win win for the both us. Thank you!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #91 on: Thu, 30 July 2020, 20:00:17 »
Can't wait for this one, already planning around it

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #92 on: Thu, 30 July 2020, 20:46:30 »
The 6u space bar is off centered right? I mean, it should support all the 1800's out there.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #93 on: Thu, 30 July 2020, 20:53:43 »
can we get a canadian vendor when gb is ready :)

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« Reply #94 on: Thu, 30 July 2020, 21:02:23 »
can we get a canadian vendor when gb is ready :)
There is one already! Will announce vendors soon once I finalize everything.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #95 on: Thu, 30 July 2020, 22:25:15 »
I'd really avoid using the valknut since it's so associated with nazis. Sad, but true.

Would it even be legal for GMK to produce that in Germany? "Hate symbol".

Yeah, we can try to reclaim it as a normal symbol but come on.. is this the time and place? Same as like the swastika isn't inherently a nazi symbol but that's what people associate it with.

Otherwise you might as well throw in the Odal rune and everything...

Great otherwise. I'd change / to ÷ on the numpad, especially since that's the symbol used in the Nordics.

And personally I don't think a down arrow for Caps Lock makes any sense. That would be like the symbol for "Lower Case Lock". But that seems to be only me. Text would be more in line with what's traditionally used on Caps Lock in the Nordic countries (the rest of the modifiers are "traditional" so having just Caps Lock be the odd one out seems like a missed opportunity). Or this:

« Last Edit: Thu, 30 July 2020, 22:32:12 by phedd »

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #96 on: Thu, 30 July 2020, 22:41:43 »
I'd really avoid using the valknut since it's so associated with nazis. Sad, but true.

Would it even be legal for GMK to produce that in Germany? "Hate symbol".

Yeah, we can try to reclaim it as a normal symbol but come on.. is this the time and place? Same as like the swastika isn't inherently a nazi symbol but that's what people associate it with.

Otherwise you might as well throw in the Odal rune and everything...

Great otherwise. I'd change / to ÷ on the numpad, especially since that's the symbol used in the Nordics.


And personally I don't think a down arrow for Caps Lock makes any sense. That would be like the symbol for "Lower Case Lock". But that seems to be only me. Text would be more in line with what's traditionally used on Caps Lock in the Nordic countries (the rest of the modifiers are "traditional" so having just Caps Lock be the odd one out seems like a missed opportunity). Or this:
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You bring up a good point. I had some premonitions about including it but I thought that since this is a Norse themed set with symbols representing their beliefs/culture that it would not be taken out of context in that way. I'll axe it, pun intended, and replace with a different novelty. Also if you take a look at GMK Icon mods the caps lock is typically a downwards arrow, therefore I included it in my set. Thanks for the feedback!
« Last Edit: Thu, 30 July 2020, 22:43:31 by Skok »

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #97 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 07:37:51 »
The 6u space bar is off centered right? I mean, it should support all the 1800's out there.
As far as I know, all modern PCBs with 6u space (1800, 66-key, 60% etc.) support at least centered stem, but not all of them support off-centered stem. The reverse is true on OG 1800 Cherry PCBs, but probably not much else. Ideally the kit would include both 6u options, but if there's only room for one, I think centered stem is better.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #98 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 07:41:24 »
And personally I don't think a down arrow for Caps Lock makes any sense. That would be like the symbol for "Lower Case Lock". But that seems to be only me. Text would be more in line with what's traditionally used on Caps Lock in the Nordic countries (the rest of the modifiers are "traditional" so having just Caps Lock be the odd one out seems like a missed opportunity). Or this:
Show Image


You bring up a good point. I had some premonitions about including it but I thought that since this is a Norse themed set with symbols representing their beliefs/culture that it would not be taken out of context in that way. I'll axe it, pun intended, and replace with a different novelty. Also if you take a look at GMK Icon mods the caps lock is typically a downwards arrow, therefore I included it in my set. Thanks for the feedback!

Down arrow Caps Lock is a good choice, not because it makes any sense (spoiler: it doesn't), but because it's a versatile, fairly generic-looking icon that can even work as Fn or Ctrl in a pinch.


Great otherwise. I'd change / to ÷ on the numpad, especially since that's the symbol used in the Nordics.

Don't forget to also change * to × in this case.
« Last Edit: Fri, 31 July 2020, 07:54:03 by konstantin »

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #99 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 08:19:40 »
Any chance for UK ISO to be included in base??? What a set, well done

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #100 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 08:33:29 »
Any chance for UK ISO to be included in base??? What a set, well done

Yeah, I was planning on it. Could you point out the keys that I'm missing so that I can fix the base kit? It's been challenging to get the kitting right so I want to make sure I have everything correct. Thanks!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #101 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 09:04:22 »
The 6u space bar is off centered right? I mean, it should support all the 1800's out there.
As far as I know, all modern PCBs with 6u space (1800, 66-key, 60% etc.) support at least centered stem, but not all of them support off-centered stem. The reverse is true on OG 1800 Cherry PCBs, but probably not much else. Ideally the kit would include both 6u options, but if there's only room for one, I think centered stem is better.




I think the set has both; but, the space bars are not in alpha color. The Cherry 1800 PCB, when carrying 6u, is off centered.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #102 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 09:10:23 »
Any chance for UK ISO to be included in base??? What a set, well done

Yeah, I was planning on it. Could you point out the keys that I'm missing so that I can fix the base kit? It's been challenging to get the kitting right so I want to make sure I have everything correct. Thanks!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #103 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 09:27:18 »
Any chance for UK ISO to be included in base??? What a set, well done

Yeah, I was planning on it. Could you point out the keys that I'm missing so that I can fix the base kit? It's been challenging to get the kitting right so I want to make sure I have everything correct. Thanks!

ISO users are already a niche, adding specific keys for a niche within a niche and increasing the size of an already large base kit by 4+ is not a good idea, imo. Read this post.

That being said, it's not my place to argue the decisions you make as the designer of the set. If you want to add ISO-UK support to the base kit, these are the exact changes you need to make:
  • Add R1 1u
  • Add R1 1u 2"
  • Add R1 1u
  • Add R3 1u '@
  • Change R3 1u \| to #~
  • Change R4 1u <> to \|
But, again, I would advise staying with the current setup as it covers more ISO users with the least amount of keys, and also because all of the Nordic countries use that <> key.
« Last Edit: Fri, 31 July 2020, 09:29:10 by konstantin »

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #104 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 09:48:38 »
Any chance for UK ISO to be included in base??? What a set, well done

Yeah, I was planning on it. Could you point out the keys that I'm missing so that I can fix the base kit? It's been challenging to get the kitting right so I want to make sure I have everything correct. Thanks!

ISO users are already a niche, adding specific keys for a niche within a niche and increasing the size of an already large base kit by 4+ is not a good idea, imo. Read this post.

That being said, it's not my place to argue the decisions you make as the designer of the set. If you want to add ISO-UK support to the base kit, these are the exact changes you need to make:
  • Add R1 1u
  • Add R1 1u 2"
  • Add R1 1u
  • Add R3 1u '@
  • Change R3 1u \| to #~
  • Change R4 1u <> to \|
But, again, I would advise staying with the current setup as it covers more ISO users with the least amount of keys, and also because all of the Nordic countries use that <> key.

GMK Hammerhead had a very large base kit which included UK ISO support. My set also excludes the numpad from base so I assumed that gave me some leeway to support smaller niches in the base kit. If I'm wrong please tell me as I'm still learning all the minute details.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #105 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 10:52:18 »
GMK Hammerhead had a very large base kit which included UK ISO support. My set also excludes the numpad from base so I assumed that gave me some leeway to support smaller niches in the base kit. If I'm wrong please tell me as I'm still learning all the minute details.

Hammerhead's NA price is very much an outlier. A more appropriate comparison would be GMK Nord, which has a slightly smaller base kit than this, also numpadless, but is priced at $125 @ 500 MOQ, the same as Hammerhead's full base kit @ 250 MOQ. The difference is that GMK Nord uses double the amount of custom colors (8 vs 4). Another example would be GMK Fro.Yo, which uses one less custom color than this (4), but is priced at $135 @ 250 MOQ for a small numpadless base kit. Also GMK Rouge, with one more custom color (6), priced at $120 @ 250 MOQ for a very small numpadless base kit.

In summary, no numpad doesn't mean a cheap base kit. Custom colors play a large role, and you should still be careful about putting too many extra keys in base. You already have several large keys in there (three spacebars, soon to be four; two ISO Enters; a few extra Shifts...), accent arrows etc., and all of that adds up.

Edit: added links
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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #106 on: Fri, 31 July 2020, 11:06:10 »
GMK Hammerhead had a very large base kit which included UK ISO support. My set also excludes the numpad from base so I assumed that gave me some leeway to support smaller niches in the base kit. If I'm wrong please tell me as I'm still learning all the minute details.

Hammerhead's NA price is very much an outlier. A more appropriate comparison would be GMK Nord, which has a slightly smaller base kit than this, also numpadless, but is priced at $125 @ 500 MOQ, the same as Hammerhead's full base kit @ 250 MOQ. Another example would be GMK Fro.Yo, which uses one less custom color than this, but is priced at $135 @ 250 MOQ for a small numpadless base kit. Also GMK Rouge, with one more custom color, priced at $120 @ 250 MOQ for a very small numpadless base kit.

In summary, no numpad doesn't mean a cheap base kit. Custom colors play a large role and you should still be careful about adding too many keys to the base kit. You already have several large keys in there (three spacebars, soon to be four; two ISO enters; a few extra Shifts...), and all of that adds up.

I'm most likely going to cut the beige spacebar from base and add to the spacebar kit after I fix its compatibility issues that were mentioned prior. I was also going to get rid of one or two of the extra shifts. I might swap one of the black RALs to stock CR. Thanks for the tips. Your comments have been imperative for fixing this sets issues.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #107 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 00:46:59 »
Im a bit doubtful about your runic novelites. Where did you get those translations from? Im no expert but from what I remember from school "Midgård" in old norse is spelled "Miþkarþ" (Midkard) not "Mitkrt", like it says on your enter key. Didnt check the others but reacted instantly to that one cause there atleast seems to be a letter missing (a) and youve swapped þ (d) for t for some reason?

Edit: like this
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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #108 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 01:13:04 »
would you do an Viking related artisan too ? that would be amazing

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #109 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 02:30:56 »
I like the new darker alphas.
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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #110 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 09:05:15 »
Loving this set...I'm in for base and deskmat.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #111 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 11:56:40 »
Not a fan of the darker alphas. To me this set just looks like GMK WoB with some different mods slapped on to it. Completely changed the feel to me.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #112 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 12:23:05 »
Not a fan of the darker alphas. To me this set just looks like GMK WoB with some different mods slapped on to it. Completely changed the feel to me.
I might change back to the old RAL. Its about 50/50 between people liking it vs not liking it. We'll see

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #113 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 13:17:50 »
Not a fan of the darker alphas. To me this set just looks like GMK WoB with some different mods slapped on to it. Completely changed the feel to me.
I might change back to the old RAL. Its about 50/50 between people liking it vs not liking it. We'll see

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I also personally preferred the previous color, I feel like the darker alphas offset the desk mat in a negative way as there is little to no tan now.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #114 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 16:07:40 »
I also prefer the previous alpha color.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #115 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 16:09:32 »
I also prefer the previous alpha color.
I've been thinking about it at work all day. It will most likely be returning.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #116 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 16:14:50 »
+1 for the old alpha color, I liked how it looked better than CR.

Assuming you will be moving the beige spacebars to a spacebar kit, the updated base kit looks good now, except for the R4 \| ISO key, which will need to be moved to R3.
« Last Edit: Sat, 01 August 2020, 16:18:11 by konstantin »

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #117 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 22:35:33 »
+1 for the old alpha color, I liked how it looked better than CR.

Assuming you will be moving the beige spacebars to a spacebar kit, the updated base kit looks good now, except for the R4 \| ISO key, which will need to be moved to R3.

Yeah old alpha color will be making a return. Either way I think it looks fantastic. Will also make that fix when I redo the renders.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #118 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 22:36:06 »
I also prefer the previous alpha color.
I've been thinking about it at work all day. It will most likely be returning.

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Great choice, the set lost a lot of character with the move to CR.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #119 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 22:40:02 »
I also prefer the previous alpha color.
I've been thinking about it at work all day. It will most likely be returning.

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Great choice, the set lost a lot of character with the move to CR.

Yeah, definitely a mistake but that's why we have Interests checks to figure out what everyone likes, and what everyone likes is the old color of the alphas lol.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #120 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 22:43:16 »
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« Last Edit: Thu, 06 August 2020, 12:34:13 by Skok »

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #121 on: Sat, 01 August 2020, 22:44:17 »
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« Last Edit: Tue, 04 August 2020, 06:50:42 by Skok »

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #122 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 00:02:35 »
Definitely Interested! Looking forward to this!
GMK Only.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #123 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 00:42:15 »
I also prefer the previous alpha color.
I've been thinking about it at work all day. It will most likely be returning.

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Great choice, the set lost a lot of character with the move to CR.

Yeah, definitely a mistake but that's why we have Interests checks to figure out what everyone likes, and what everyone likes is the old color of the alphas lol.

I don't mean to criticize for the initial change, I'm sorry. I mean to congratulate you for undoing an unpopular change!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #124 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 14:15:04 »
Hows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #125 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:27:49 »
Hows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?
Leaning towards alphas.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #126 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:46:25 »
Hows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?
I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #127 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 15:59:24 »
cool set! Colors look great

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #128 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 16:14:32 »
I love the colorway.
1. Is there a tentatie GB date for this?
2. Would love 2.25 + 2.75 spacebars in base kit for Alice compatability.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #129 on: Sun, 02 August 2020, 16:45:18 »
I love the colorway.
1. Is there a tentatie GB date for this?
2. Would love 2.25 + 2.75 spacebars in base kit for Alice compatability.
No date on group buy yet. Still working on getting the rest of my vendors but its looking good. Spacebars has been the hardest kit for me to figure out for some reason. I think im gonna add Alice compatibility. I just need to look at what else I need before I post the renders

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #130 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 06:44:49 »
Hows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?
I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%

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Ah OK. So rune monolegends more likely? Surprised theyre more popular

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #131 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 13:29:03 »
Hows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?
I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%

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Ah OK. So rune monolegends more likely? Surprised theyre more popular
Yeah. Rune mono legends are winning by a fair margin. Personally I think they would look better as Monos because I think sublegends are too cluttered. Ill probably offer latin alphas as a child kit for those who aren't fans of it.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #132 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 15:02:09 »
Hows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?
I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%

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Ah OK. So rune monolegends more likely? Surprised theyre more popular
Yeah. Rune mono legends are winning by a fair margin. Personally I think they would look better as Monos because I think sublegends are too cluttered. Ill probably offer latin alphas as a child kit for those who aren't fans of it.

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Ah fair enough. I preferred the look of sublegends.. Looks cooler than having Japanese sublegends which I also love. I hope the results aren't skewed because I noticed you can submit the form multiple times as you're not required to be logged in

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #133 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 15:07:17 »
Hows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?
I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%

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Ah OK. So rune monolegends more likely? Surprised theyre more popular
Yeah. Rune mono legends are winning by a fair margin. Personally I think they would look better as Monos because I think sublegends are too cluttered. Ill probably offer latin alphas as a child kit for those who aren't fans of it.

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Ah fair enough. I preferred the look of sublegends.. Looks cooler than having Japanese sublegends which I also love. I hope the results aren't skewed because I noticed you can submit the form multiple times as you're not required to be logged in
Nah, its just cleaner.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #134 on: Mon, 03 August 2020, 15:48:25 »
Hows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?
I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%

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Ah OK. So rune monolegends more likely? Surprised theyre more popular
Yeah. Rune mono legends are winning by a fair margin. Personally I think they would look better as Monos because I think sublegends are too cluttered. Ill probably offer latin alphas as a child kit for those who aren't fans of it.

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Ah fair enough. I preferred the look of sublegends.. Looks cooler than having Japanese sublegends which I also love. I hope the results aren't skewed because I noticed you can submit the form multiple times as you're not required to be logged in
Nah, its just cleaner.

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Hows the interest been for runic alphas? Will it be sublegends most likely?
I'll post the results from the google form in the next update. As of now alphas are leading by 15-20%

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Ah OK. So rune monolegends more likely? Surprised theyre more popular
Yeah. Rune mono legends are winning by a fair margin. Personally I think they would look better as Monos because I think sublegends are too cluttered. Ill probably offer latin alphas as a child kit for those who aren't fans of it.

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Ah fair enough. I preferred the look of sublegends.. Looks cooler than having Japanese sublegends which I also love. I hope the results aren't skewed because I noticed you can submit the form multiple times as you're not required to be logged in
Nah, its just cleaner.

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Still prefer the look of sublegends

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 05:51:26 »
Love the colours, muted and also very retro.  Not a fan of the Novelties but that is just a personal preference.  Please if possible include UK ISO in your kit.  Great work and good luck.
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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #136 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 06:57:20 »
Here's another vote for monolegends. Besides it looking cleaner than sublegends, it gives alternate layout users a great alpha keys option.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #137 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 07:49:16 »
Interesting set — I like the colourway more than I would have expected initially.

That said, the kits (as they stand now) still need some work:


- The base kit has <> and \| in R4 — \| should be one row up, in R3.
- An extra B and an F13 key have become pretty much standard additions to base kits in ICs. Consider having them, too.


- The NorDeUk kit is described as having support for "Norwegian, British, German, Danish", yet Swedish/Finnish is fully supported but not included in the list.
- '? in R1 isn't used in any of the four (five) layouts listed, so it should be taken out.
- English (UK) (not "British") is missing R4 \| and R3 #~.
- The keys ◌́◌̀, ◌́◌̀| and \◌̀◌́ all show the acute accent as a low mark. This might just be a render artifact, but do ensure that remains only as so.
- Same goes for the positioning of the £ sign in 3#£.
- Since R4 <> is in the base kit already, it can chopped off the NorDeUk kit.
- Consider adding the numpad comma keys, here or in the numpad kit.

GLWIC!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #138 on: Wed, 05 August 2020, 14:26:55 »
So Latin alphas will not be in the Base kit?
 :-\

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #139 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 12:43:46 »
So Latin alphas will not be in the Base kit?
 :-\

The demand for Futhark alphas is incredibly high. 300+ responses on the google form are in favor of rune alphas in some form. Making them as a child kit would not only increase the price massively for the majority who want them, the moq would also be extremely high for a child kit. I'll have to discuss with vendors because they know more than I do. The google forms are also split right down the middle at 50% Monos and 50% Subs so I'll have to do renders for both and make another form to see which one is more popular after they actually see it on a board.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #140 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 12:46:40 »
Love the colours, muted and also very retro.  Not a fan of the Novelties but that is just a personal preference.  Please if possible include UK ISO in your kit.  Great work and good luck.

Yeah I've been trying my best to get a good base kit. Every time I fix 1 thing 2 more problems arise. I'm trying my best and will consult a few people who know more than me when I redo the renders. Thanks!

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #141 on: Thu, 06 August 2020, 12:49:46 »
Interesting set — I like the colourway more than I would have expected initially.

That said, the kits (as they stand now) still need some work:


- The base kit has <> and \| in R4 — \| should be one row up, in R3.
- An extra B and an F13 key have become pretty much standard additions to base kits in ICs. Consider having them, too.


- The NorDeUk kit is described as having support for "Norwegian, British, German, Danish", yet Swedish/Finnish is fully supported but not included in the list.
- '? in R1 isn't used in any of the four (five) layouts listed, so it should be taken out.
- English (UK) (not "British") is missing R4 \| and R3 #~.
- The keys ◌́◌̀, ◌́◌̀| and \◌̀◌́ all show the acute accent as a low mark. This might just be a render artifact, but do ensure that remains only as so.
- Same goes for the positioning of the £ sign in 3#£.
- Since R4 <> is in the base kit already, it can chopped off the NorDeUk kit.
- Consider adding the numpad comma keys, here or in the numpad kit.

GLWIC!

Thank you for your feedback. I'll definitely make some of these changes when I go back and redo the base kit renders, maybe tomorrow if I can.

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #142 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 15:20:33 »
Interesting set — I like the colourway more than I would have expected initially.

That said, the kits (as they stand now) still need some work:


- The base kit has <> and \| in R4 — \| should be one row up, in R3.
- An extra B and an F13 key have become pretty much standard additions to base kits in ICs. Consider having them, too.


- The NorDeUk kit is described as having support for "Norwegian, British, German, Danish", yet Swedish/Finnish is fully supported but not included in the list.
- '? in R1 isn't used in any of the four (five) layouts listed, so it should be taken out.
- English (UK) (not "British") is missing R4 \| and R3 #~.
- The keys ◌́◌̀, ◌́◌̀| and \◌̀◌́ all show the acute accent as a low mark. This might just be a render artifact, but do ensure that remains only as so.
- Same goes for the positioning of the £ sign in 3#£.
- Since R4 <> is in the base kit already, it can chopped off the NorDeUk kit.
- Consider adding the numpad comma keys, here or in the numpad kit.

GLWIC!


What is the extra B for?

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #143 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 15:47:28 »
What is the extra B for?

Alice-like layouts

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Re: [IC] GMK Norse
« Reply #144 on: Fri, 07 August 2020, 23:50:38 »
love this