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Offline Bayonett Priest

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 10/4 with Brass Mod Kit
« Reply #100 on: Mon, 09 November 2020, 15:48:59 »
is it possible to add a wasdset to the brass mods? and PLEASE Norde kit! please!

Offline santela

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 10/4 with Brass Mod Kit
« Reply #101 on: Mon, 09 November 2020, 21:38:43 »
The best looking set on a white keyboard, but I have a couple of suggestions:

- Can we get a wadset for the brass mod? Looks more uniformed.
- The bronze enter key in brass mod seems repetitive?

Offline ligongduck

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 10/4 with Brass Mod Kit
« Reply #102 on: Wed, 18 November 2020, 09:44:47 »
I'm excited about this set

Offline of_sam

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #103 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 09:56:20 »
$120 for that base kit...

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #104 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 09:57:34 »
Can I have my base kit with numpad back please? 120USD is too expensive just for a base kit without ISO support.

Offline gilbert

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #105 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 10:01:20 »
wtf is this kitting

Offline gilbert

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #106 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 10:02:41 »
200usd for uk iso and numpad... you have to be joking.

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #107 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 10:05:01 »
Treeleaf not approved. The price is too high for the kitting. And the kitting isn't even good.
What do you mean $120 for "still supporting as many standard layouts as possible"?????

Why does it cost $200 for Base / UK ISO / Numpad?

Normally it would be 135 for all of these features in the same base kit.......

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #108 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 10:08:29 »
Treeleaf not approved. The price is too high for the kitting. And the kitting isn't even good.
What do you mean $120 for "still supporting as many standard layouts as possible"?????

Why does it cost $200 for Base / UK ISO / Numpad?

Normally it would be 135 for all of these features in the same base kit.......

Treeleaf does Not Approve! 

couldnt have said it better myself treeleaf  :D
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Offline twgecko02

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #109 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 14:37:37 »
$120 for that base kit...

All kitting and prices are based on preliminary quotes and are subject to change pending feedback from the community. I understand that it's frustrating for people who use non-ansi layouts, but I want to give it a few more days and see what the general consensus is on the current kitting. We're currently teetering between 500MOQ and 1000MOQ, with the base kit price of $120 being based on the 500MOQ. If enough interest is garnered, we could see that go up to 1000 MOQ and consequentially see a large price drop. I'm more than happy to answer any questions about the decisions behind my current kitting and also perfectly open to change my mind about it if enough people make good enough arguments :)

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #110 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 15:06:46 »
Absolutely a must-cop. Will there be a rama cap? I think a rama cap in the main novelty esc key would look amazing!

Offline lurker333221

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #111 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 18:19:07 »
I feel like the trade off for a tiny decrease in cost vs the amount of compatibility lost in the base kit is not worth it.

GMK Thai Tea was priced with a 250 MOQ and the larger base kit is at $135.
That's a $15 difference with a bigger base kit, more colors, and a smaller MOQ.

Meanwhile, with this kitting, we are looking at $120 for tkl support, then $40 for numpad, and $40 for ISO for a total of $200.

Why do you think this is the better way to kit the set?

Offline twgecko02

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #112 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 19:59:57 »
I feel like the trade off for a tiny decrease in cost vs the amount of compatibility lost in the base kit is not worth it.

GMK Thai Tea was priced with a 250 MOQ and the larger base kit is at $135.
That's a $15 difference with a bigger base kit, more colors, and a smaller MOQ.

Meanwhile, with this kitting, we are looking at $120 for tkl support, then $40 for numpad, and $40 for ISO for a total of $200.

Why do you think this is the better way to kit the set?

This kitting makes a lot more sense if we can garner enough interest for a 1000 moq and consequently see lower prices than currently listed, which I'm still uncertain on. If my vendors and I feel that a 1000 MOQ is reasonable, then this (or a close variation) of this kitting will likely be what gets produced. If that isn't the case, then the kitting will revert back to something far more standard, with ISO and numpad support in the base kit. Rest assured that I am closely monitoring feedback and this kitting/pricing is far from final.
« Last Edit: Mon, 23 November 2020, 20:41:42 by twgecko02 »

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #113 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 21:10:15 »
That sounds like a good plan. 1000 MOQ gets 100$ numpadless base kits (or 95$ like GMK Honor) and even numpad users like me donít mind much then.

Offline dibstern

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #114 on: Mon, 23 November 2020, 22:05:36 »
Ortho keycaps are mad, Iím in.

+1 for a Latrialum collab and +1 for Mac keys

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #115 on: Tue, 24 November 2020, 04:36:59 »
Excellent work on developing this set.  Thank you for the UK ISO kit.  Now very interested in this for the future J-01.
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Offline sup3r170va

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #116 on: Tue, 24 November 2020, 05:14:36 »
Really like this set. Itís a good alternative WS1 set.
I must say Iím quite surprised that it costs $120 at 500 MOQ. Was expecting it to be cheaper.
Happy to drop the numpad but I think novelties and alt mods may be fairly critical. Also not enough brass 1u specialties for the last column for a 65% board :)

Offline Mr_Quaternions

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #117 on: Tue, 24 November 2020, 15:18:14 »
Aced the design of the kit ! It's my first GMK IC and I'm not really phased by the price.
The only (minor) gripe I have is about the noveltiies: plenty of 1u is fine but I'd be looking forward to replacing the 7 x1.25u of r4 of well as the shifts/backspace/enter; well.... modifiers.
Looking forward for a brass esc key too!

Offline Kinesiologist

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #118 on: Tue, 24 November 2020, 16:50:38 »
Can you please put the white F13 key into the Base Kit and add another F13 key into the Brass Mod Kit?

Offline 3wisemonkeyfist

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #119 on: Tue, 24 November 2020, 22:33:22 »
Is there a discord?


Offline twgecko02

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #120 on: Tue, 24 November 2020, 23:53:07 »
Treeleaf not approved. The price is too high for the kitting. And the kitting isn't even good.
What do you mean $120 for "still supporting as many standard layouts as possible"?????

Why does it cost $200 for Base / UK ISO / Numpad?

Normally it would be 135 for all of these features in the same base kit.......

Treeleaf does Not Approve! 


Treeleaf I definitely agree that I have some concerns with the current pricing. As I referenced in another comment, I only intend to keep this kitting if I believe that we can run the set at a higher moq and thus a lower price, otherwise it is likely that I will rework the kitting to be less narrow. I appreciate the feedback, and believe me when I say that I want to offer the best deal to as many customers as I can.

Offline Benedikt

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #121 on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 06:42:15 »
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The size of the base kit has been reduced drastically to provide the lowest possible price while still supporting as many standard layouts as possible
So TKL kits are becoming the new base kits? To be honest I'm disappointed, I really liked this set as a nice, classy alternative to the super clean BOW. For me it had a similar vibe as GMK Noir has for WOB, but with that kitting decision I find it hard to justify a buy  :(

Offline Hanabi

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #122 on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 08:53:25 »
Price kinda on the higher side considering the keys in the base kit. Still a good looking set none the less! Keeping an eye out for the base kit!

Offline MoarCoffeePlzzz

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #123 on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 09:11:01 »
Very sad to see the size of the base kit get sized down to TKL only. Having to pay $160 for a full base kit seems to be going to opposite direction of the new norm for pricing. This is one of my favorite sets to be IC'ed in a while and would love to support but $200 seems a bit steep for full base kit plus novelties.

Offline Voxel95

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #124 on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 09:19:06 »
I've been looking for a white set for my next build, looks fantastic! Perfect key set to play civ 6 too! Will buy this if it hits the group buy stage :)

Offline pepperskog

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #125 on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 12:18:43 »

Looks really nice!

I have to agree with others though that the kitting vs price decisions made here makes little sense.

120 for a TKL base is a shame, truly.

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #126 on: Wed, 25 November 2020, 12:28:43 »
Do not get why you changed the kitting when it was fine to begin with but now it's just like dixies kitting which is straight up horrible and money hungry/exploitive yikes

Offline twgecko02

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #127 on: Thu, 26 November 2020, 16:53:19 »
Do not get why you changed the kitting when it was fine to begin with but now it's just like dixies kitting which is straight up horrible and money hungry/exploitive yikes

Hey, just wanted to clarify what happened here with the kitting. This is my first time designing a set, and as such I have little experience with how kit size / moq / and other variables specifically affect pricing. I had gone to this kitting in hopes that I could offer a cheaper base kit for most users, but after receiving feedback I've realized that the drastic increase in cost for ISO/Numpad users isn't worth the slight decrease in base kit cost. It's really important to me that the community understands that these kitting decisions weren't made out of greed and instead were made out of ignorance. The kitting will revert back to a more standard one with numpad and iso support in base kit.

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #128 on: Thu, 26 November 2020, 18:09:37 »
First time I see a vendor in South America! Hope this becomes a trend and we see more of that, always felt like SA was completely left out when it comes to custom keyboards (apart from Brazil thanks to MrKeebs).

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #129 on: Fri, 27 November 2020, 07:43:45 »
It's really important to me that the community understands that these kitting decisions weren't made out of greed and instead were made out of ignorance. The kitting will revert back to a more standard one with numpad and iso support in base kit.
Hanlon's Razor strikes again. Good decision, IMO.
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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #130 on: Tue, 01 December 2020, 21:22:48 »
black on gold alphas?

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #131 on: Tue, 01 December 2020, 22:04:53 »
Plans for any sort of of extensions kit which could include a vertical function/macro row such as the ones seen on GMK Serika R2's macro extensions kit- would absolutely make this set a must!
« Last Edit: Wed, 16 December 2020, 21:35:41 by CrlaoSvloadr »

Offline Shameless

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #132 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 16:32:16 »
I need this in my life

Offline Benedikt

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #133 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 17:41:59 »
Plans for any sort of of extensions kit which could include a vertical function row such as the ones seen on GMK Serika R2's macro expansion kit- would absolutely make this set a must!
With reverted kitting it's already a must buy for me but this would be an added bonus.

Offline Dissitesuxba11s

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #134 on: Tue, 08 December 2020, 20:23:04 »
Can we get a second B-key for Alice support? Maybe add it to the Additional Kit or 40s/Ortho kit?

Offline PHYLO

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #135 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 10:08:06 »
Now this kit just screams class. Well done

Offline Mootook

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #136 on: Wed, 16 December 2020, 22:53:39 »
Super excited about this set. Would like to see two versions of the Torii gate novelty though.

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #137 on: Tue, 05 January 2021, 14:46:37 »
I'm a long-time civs fan, and love simple color themes.

This is a hole in one, my friend.

Will def be picking up pretty much every kit!

Offline Berusalem

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #138 on: Tue, 05 January 2021, 15:01:23 »
Calls a kit civilizations, does not support european layouts :))

No norde/EU layout is a dealbreaker

Offline twgecko02

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #139 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 11:08:41 »
Calls a kit civilizations, does not support european layouts :))

No norde/EU layout is a dealbreaker

I wish I could support all layouts, but unfortunately with GMK prices/kitting/MOQs it just isn't viable. Based on other sets that have run in the past, Norde/EU kits tend to only sell about 3-5% of base kit sales, meaning I would have to sell 2000-3000 base kits just to meet a 100 MOQ. As amazing as it would be if we could make those numbers happen, it just isn't viable based on IC response.

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #140 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 20:21:41 »
Would like to se 2 3u spacebars added.

Awesome simple set! I like it!

Offline twgecko02

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #141 on: Sat, 09 January 2021, 01:32:03 »
black on gold alphas?

That was actually my original idea, it's definitely something I want to keep in mind for a potential R2 run.

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #142 on: Sat, 09 January 2021, 02:55:47 »
Love it love it love it. Need dat Series 00 Sandblast Brass on it :eyes:

Offline VellFlamm

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #143 on: Sat, 09 January 2021, 06:05:04 »
I was so hyped about the kit, but just realized that there is no 1.25 shift in the 40% kit. RIP

Offline Khaine

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #144 on: Sat, 09 January 2021, 06:54:19 »
Absolutely love the set! Definitely going to be getting this when it goes live :D

Offline twgecko02

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #145 on: Sat, 09 January 2021, 13:05:48 »
I was so hyped about the kit, but just realized that there is no 1.25 shift in the 40% kit. RIP

That's because there's a 1.25U shift in the base kit!

Offline twgecko02

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Re: [IC] GMK Civilizations --- Updated 11/23 PLEASE FILL OUT NEW IC FORM
« Reply #146 on: Sat, 09 January 2021, 13:06:29 »
Love it love it love it. Need dat Series 00 Sandblast Brass on it :eyes:

Loop stop teasing plz

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I would really love a norde kit to buy with the base kit + brass mods

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Must buy set personally. Colors work really well together; looks luxurious.

Offline twgecko02

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Must buy set personally. Colors work really well together; looks luxurious.

Thank you <3