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Offline gridishere

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[IC] grid 650, GB is live, update with typing sound tests 3
« on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 08:57:36 »
Hi there,



[updates 01.16.2021]

A sound test with Holy Panda is here.
The keyboard is fitted with a prototype version of Module Type-07 ARRAY, with not finishes.


[updates 01.14.2021]

Huge thanks to migorengs.  We worked together to create a visual simulator to demo all color combinations for grid 650.



Please check here.

https://www.mechs.io/simulator/configure/4345/

Mechs.io is his website.

You can also find him on Instagram.


[updates 01.11.2021]

We have a new sound test video with Ink Black V2 switches and MOD4 FLASH.
The setup uses a thin lithium battery instead of a 18650 battery.

In the past 2 weeks, we have optimized many things.
  • Optimizing the power consumption for FLASH and ARRARY
  • Finalizing the design of the leaf spring for FLASH
  • Bettery light effects for FLASH
  • Packaging design finished
  • Lots of parts are being made right now, we expect an early delivery

Thanks for your feedback and support.



[updates 12.23.2020]


We did some sound tests with lubed Tealio V2. There is a comparison between plateless mount / 4mm ANSI plate / 1.5mm universal plate.
Thanks for your support.


[updates 12.06.2020]

Before GB happens, we need to appreciate az5's brilliant idea to extend the groove for Module 9 STAND. Now the improved version will work with a phone with a maximum length of 185mm or 7.28inch. Technically it can fit a iPad Pro 11inch in vertical.
We love to hear from you ;D
It should look like this.






[updates 12.03.2020]

We have new updates!  It is about price, GB info, plate options, and colorway.

The price of grid 650 starts at $365 for a wired plateless version with Module 01 CLASSIC, and it goes up to $490 with its gasket mount variant plus Module 07 ARRAY.



Groupbuy will launch at 9 AM PST December 10th till January 17th, 2021, on zFrontier. Module 10 CIRCLE will not be available at this GB because of some tolerance issues.

We will shot a build video and sound tests in mid-December.

Shipping will start in April 2020.

There are four different PCBs:
  • Wired hotswap
  • Wired solderable
  • BLE hotswap
  • BLE solderable
All the boards run on QMK, and the wired variants are VIA-compatible.

For the BLE version, it is challenging due to the limits of ROM size. We are still working on that. Nevertheless, you will not be able to modify any BLE related keycodes unless VIA starts to support it. Still, it is possible to use the wired version firmware with the BLE board.

There are two different plate options:
  • 4mm stiff plate designed for hotswap boards
  • 1.5mm universal plate designed for solderable boards
The plates are indeed expensive as they are milled out of aluminum blocks like the chassis. The plate option also includes two sets of silicone gaskets, hard and soft, and other accessories.

Here is what a set would look like, modules are for reference:



grid 650 with hotswap PCB and 4mm plate.



grid 650 WKL with solderable PCB and 1.5mm plate.



grid 650 WKL with solderable PCB.

More updates on the plates and colors are https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109386.msg2986682#msg2986682.

Many thanks!


[updates 11.14.2020]
We have some major updates. Mostly about modules. Check https://geekhack.org/index.php?topic=109386.msg2979576#msg2979576

Many thanks


Hi there,
grid is back, and we've prepared something new.






grid 650 is a 65% custom mechanical keyboard. It represents what we imagine when retro and timeless styles meet excellent functionalities.

Spec-wise:

Chassis:
  • Newly designed, unibody chassis embraces a hybrid mount design supporting both (or) plate-less mount and gasket mount.
  • Module options similar to grid 600
  • Sound-absorb felt similar to grid 600
  • Front LED indicator

Hub:
  • Type-C interface supports C to C cable.
  • Reversible USB 2.0 Type-A hub port
  • Full battery protection circuit with bypass option for DIY users
  • Included 18650 battery case

PCB:
  • 65% layout, QMK BLE, with optional non BLE version
  • Solderable version supports both ANSI, ISO, and multiple layouts
  • Hot-swap version available for faster setup
  • About one month of battery life when used with a 3000mAh 18650 lithium battery (not included)
  • BLE power display in OS.
  • Build-in spring structure

Updates on Modules:
  • Newly designed Module 4 FLASH with smoother color transition. (Notice that even we put voltage step-up chips in Module 4, due to space limitations, DIY and a thin profile phone battery is required to use with the FLASH module)
  • Module 5 PRESS is now wired directly to the main PCB.
  • New Module 6 WAVE
  • More info on the modules will be released in about one week.
  • All new modules will be available for grid600 as well.

Some further explanation:



This image indicates the plate-less mounting option. The PCB is attached to the chassis through 10 evenly distributed screw holes. The build-in leaf spring structure further enhances the flex of the PCB.



This image indicates the Gasket Mount option. Firstly, the plate is positioned by four specially designed O-ring structure. These O-rings provide constant pressure on the plate. Then, the plate is supported by six individual silicon bushings.



We will include two sets of bushings with different resistance.



You can easily swap the silicon bushings.



The layouts.



The PCB is powered by QMK BLE. Module 5 PRESS is now connected to the mainboard directly. For people want to use VIA. The non-BLE version will be available as well.





The hub of grid 650 is another challenge for us. We put a reversible female USB 2.0 Type-A port because it is at the back. Also, we paid some efforts to make all three elements, the switch, USB-C, and USB-A, center-aligned.
We choose Texas Instrument's chip for battery management and voltage step-down. We recommend a 18650 battery when you are not using Module 4 FLASH, as it is the most accessible battery. So, no worries about the future.

Front LED indicator.







The front LED indicator has four colors and five modes.

  • Blicking blue is for paring.
  • Breathing white indicates powered by a battery.
  • Blinking red reminds you to charge your grid650.
  • Constant orange signifies your device is charging.
  • Constant white means the battery is fully charged.
Yes, the indicator works in a retro and utilitarian fashion.

We will be providing more information and module updates in about one week. Stay tuned and maybe check our Instagram. https://www.instagram.com/gridishere/.
Best,
grid
« Last Edit: Fri, 15 January 2021, 17:12:57 by gridishere »

Offline Afteryou

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #1 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 09:11:53 »
 :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:
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Offline NotYeMK

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #2 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 09:12:28 »
I don't want to miss out on this one like I did when on the Grid 600. Definitely keeping this one in mind and hoping it comes out soon.

Offline parkingmeasurement

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #3 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 09:24:08 »
Angle of the keyboard? Front height, rear height measurements?

Offline TheBlackHammer

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #4 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 09:26:19 »
definitely going to be picking one of these up!

Offline slyr586

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #5 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 10:18:26 »
Holy ****. I've always loved the Grid 600, and I'm admittedly not a fan of 65% but I may have to cop.

Offline santela

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #6 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 10:31:45 »
This is a must buy for sure!

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #7 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 10:33:58 »
What's the little thumbnail on all of the images? lol

Offline darthcapn

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #8 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 10:45:55 »
I can't express how happy I am to see this coming! In!!

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Offline Coneree

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #9 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 10:48:38 »
Got into the scene after the Grid600 was released and thought that was a dead dream. So glad to see this is coming!
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Offline kuro0renji

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #10 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:04:49 »
looks absolutely nut! Im in!

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #11 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:10:04 »
Wow


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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #12 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:17:36 »
Very cool - I could use a new wireless board! Looking forward to this one!
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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #13 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:50:04 »
Beautiful board. Looking forward to getting my hands on one!
               
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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #14 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:52:02 »
Well fine then.

   

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #15 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:56:13 »
This is quite the upgrade.  Will you have prototype units available for someone to type on?  The mounting is interestign.  Need some seasoned advice on how it feels in real life.

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #16 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 11:59:48 »
Was not in this community when the Grid 600 was released and I do have money laying around from getting NULL'd by the Sat75.... 

Offline gridishere

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #17 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:11:30 »
Angle of the keyboard? Front height, rear height measurements?

5.5 degree incline.
Chassis front height is 19.4mm or 0.764inch; chassis rear height is 33.7mm or 1.33inch. If you are using GMK keycaps, the height measured from the center of keycaps to desktop will be 27mm or 1.06inch. Which is about 1mm lower than grid 600.

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #18 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:13:09 »


I love side mounting points  and renders of foam
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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #19 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:13:37 »
Will plate and/or PCB be open-sourced?  Very interested in doing a small/private run of Boardwalk PCBs for this if so.

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #20 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:14:02 »
no way, never thought id see it come back. so excited

Offline glowcloud

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #21 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:17:49 »
I'm so excited this is back! I'm definitely going to try to get one. The updates look great!

Offline gridishere

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #22 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:18:28 »
Will plate and/or PCB be open-sourced?  Very interested in doing a small/private run of Boardwalk PCBs for this if so.
Would love to do that.

Offline paperassgasket

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #23 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:19:22 »
Don't need bluetooth, but I don't not need it either.
I'm just happy to see Grid make a comeback!

Offline shensmobile

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #24 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:22:11 »
Will plate and/or PCB be open-sourced?  Very interested in doing a small/private run of Boardwalk PCBs for this if so.
Would love to do that.

Then put me down for two!

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 12:53:28 »
I NEED DIS

Offline EdgeOfInfinity

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #26 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 13:09:20 »
looks like a nice iteration of the original

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 13:22:23 »
I'm curious as to the Bluetooth implementation using QMK. Is this going to be a fairly stock BLE configuration using the MDBT40 and just the base QMK firmware code?

I don't think the base code support supports hardware indicators so I would love to see the firmware implementation eventually chosen. I'd assume it's going to be open sourced since that's a requirement for QMK/VIA support anyways.

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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #28 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 13:25:45 »
I have waited and waited for this to run again.  Love everything about it, please sign me up, take my money and get me in line brother because I am ready.
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Offline 2ndRoad805

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #29 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 14:41:11 »
I love it! The only thing I could possible add is a separation of the arrow keys. I always loved how much extra metal bordered the keys. It naturally lends itself to an isolated arrow cluster I think. Either way, I am on board. So happy this is 65%! Can’t wait! Thank you for bringing it back!

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #30 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 14:47:58 »
sooo down for this

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 14:52:27 »
Any potential for a thinner plate? If so, its a yes from me.

Offline Flexmaster

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #32 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:09:30 »
Amazing, too bad i'm broke af

Offline darthcapn

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #33 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:10:14 »
How many units are planned for this gb?

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #34 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:10:33 »
I greatly require this item.

Offline JvMil

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #35 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 15:34:06 »
Scratch all other planned purchases, I need this  :eek:

Offline thethomaszhou

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #36 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 16:29:02 »
holy crap! i missed the 600, but im definitely not missing this one

i thought grid wouldnt make a comeback but im so glad that im wrong

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #37 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 16:35:13 »
Love how much features is in this Grid.

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #38 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 16:37:15 »
I am so ready to buy this, I have been trying to snag the Grid 600 for so long 
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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #39 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 16:38:22 »
I am so ready to buy this, I have been trying to snag the Grid 600 for so long 
<3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3 <3

Hell I finally made my geekhack account just to say that

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #40 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 17:01:10 »
Well hello good sir


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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #41 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 17:01:52 »


I love side mounting points  and renders of foam



And what's the price of this btw? Any proto? Plate options?????


Am I being annoying or are these points that should be in the original IC

this feels more like a marketing thing than an actual interest check
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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #42 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 17:48:58 »
Well hello good sir


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Re: grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #43 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 18:26:46 »


I love side mounting points  and renders of foam



And what's the price of this btw? Any proto? Plate options?????


Am I being annoying or are these points that should be in the original IC

this feels more like a marketing thing than an actual interest check

The second image, the sceond and forth from the last image are one of our actaul prototypes with final Hub and Front LED indicator design.

Plate option is something we are still working on and would love get feedback from you guys.
« Last Edit: Mon, 02 November 2020, 18:31:30 by gridishere »

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #44 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 18:28:28 »
Can you post a typing test?

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #45 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 18:55:31 »
Must get! :eek:

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #46 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 18:59:27 »
I've been waiting for this to return!

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #47 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 19:10:30 »
Nutty

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #48 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 19:54:55 »
ok I see what you doin.  :p :thumb:

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Re: [IC] grid 650, a QMK BLE keyboard with interchangeable modules
« Reply #49 on: Mon, 02 November 2020, 22:56:31 »
im in if the price is right