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[IC] JTK Sora - small update with new renders
« on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 19:15:41 »
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12/27/2020 update:
My friend dany has helped done some new renders for the set- including one for the sunset kit (which is definitely lacking renders).
More renders will be on the way after the holidays.
Reading the current feedback so far, I know some people are interested in sub-legends but I want to leave it without sub-legends for this set- especially since there are already two different alphas.
I am also heavily considering switching from the current UK-ISO support to more region-neutral ISO instead.

First update: Small updates on the wording and formatting
I apologize to everyone who was offended by the confusing wording about the explanation before for the inspiration for the set and the name.
The post has been updated with new wording, which is hopefully more clear and explains better. I also did not account for mobile users when posting this- which resulted in weird spacing for those with smaller screens.


About the set

Hi everyone, this is my first public IC on a set I’ve been working on for the past few months.

The colors are based off the sky we see in our daily lives, the blue being the sky itself while the white being the clouds we can often see along with the sky and the gold accents/mod legend color being representative of the sun.

My inspiration for this set came from staying mostly at home the past year because of COVID and starting to miss the stuff I was able to do before outside under the sky.


Explanation behind the name

The name isn't based on an anime character from an anime- sorry to disappoint everyone. Instead, the name came from a Japanese friend of mine, Homiezoned who when I asked for help with naming it, named it Sora because it meant "sky" in Japanese.

I found it interesting because in Kanji, the same "sky" (空) character also meant "air or empty" in Chinese Hanzi. When combined with the character (天) in Chinese, it also means sky (天空).


Kits

Two variants of the keycap set are currently planned, one representing the regular sky and the other representing the sunset sky.

The alternative sunset alpha kit has an extra tab+backspace added so you can theoretically use the set with two different keyboards.

The novelties are currently planned to be triple-shot, allowing for 3 different colors in one keycap. However, I am still waiting to hear back from JTK to see whether the planned designs are possible. Novelties might change and vary from the current renders shown.



Sora Base Kit:

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Sunset Alphas:

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Spacebars:

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Novelties:

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Colors

The planned colors used for this set are:
WS2 (JTK has said that they can color match with GMK colors)
Pantone 278C
Pantone 1625C
Pantone 7407C

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WS2 was chosen over WS1 for the white because I felt WS2 was more similar to clouds than WS1, since WS1 has a bit of a cream tone to it.

As for why the blue chosen was 278c, originally I wanted something more like 2717c since the color reminded me of the sky the most but the contrast would be way too low for white legends.
278c also reminded of the sky but it was a bit deeper than 2717, making the contrast better with WS2.

The color 283c was also in consideration but GMK Oni already uses that color along with the same WS2 legends.

The pictures aren’t the most accurate/representative since they were taken from my phone camera (Samsung S20)


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In direct natural outdoors lighting


Indoors warm lighting


Indirect/shaded outdoors natural lighting


WS2 compared with WS1 in various lighting



Deskmats


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Renders
Renders shown below are done by Bachoo


Iron 180 designed by Smith & Rune

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Nemui designed by Bachoo

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S66 designed by sartori24

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TGR Alice designed by yuktsi

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Renders shown below are done by Dany

monkeboard designed by Dany (Palma Boards)

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Vendors and Pricing

Canada - https://alphakeys.ca/
USA - https://vala.supply/
Europe - TBA
China - TBA
Asia - TBA
Oceania - TBA


Collaborations


Artisans

Bowbie Keycaps


Acknowledgements:

Homiezoned for helping me with coming up with the name for this set

sartori24 and everyone else in the KBDFans discord community for the support for the initial concept

Bowbie for agreeing to collaborate and make artisans

Bachoo for patiently working with me and providing all the amazing renders done for the set

..and especially everyone else who has helped!

« Last Edit: Mon, 18 January 2021, 16:56:32 by sauv »

Offline sauv

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #1 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 19:16:08 »
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Offline dot_dot

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #2 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 19:17:45 »
I really liked the sunset variant, but the Pantone 7407C looks a bit poop to me

Offline productkun

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #3 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 19:22:48 »
Modifiers remind me of GMK Civilizations

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #4 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 19:41:14 »
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Offline sauv

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #5 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 19:50:54 »
Modifiers remind me of GMK Civilizations

I agree, the gold-ish modifiers definitely look similar to each other but I believe the set is different enough overall and has a different theme.
The reason why a "gold" color was chosen to represent the "sun" in the modifier legends is because the color known as "Sunray" is also similar to gold imo.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sunset_(color)#Sunray

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #6 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 19:57:56 »
S U N S  E T
A L P H A
S O
L I T


T R E E L E A F
A P P R O V E  :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb: :thumb:
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Offline misswaffle

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #7 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 20:02:10 »
Really liking the blue and orange alpha shades chosen! GLWIC

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #8 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 20:02:35 »
Im not sure I like the normal base kit though. I would like it if it had Dark mod , Light alphas
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Offline Havattack

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #9 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 20:17:34 »
No "weeb" part, but it's still based on Japanese stuff.... LOL I don't think you know what "weeb" means. It's not just about anime.

It looks like a poor man's Lazurite, pass, sorry.
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Offline edasaur

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #10 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 20:44:35 »


I found it interesting because in Katakana, the same "sky"
character also meant "air or empty" in Chinese. When combined with the character
"sky" in Chinese, it also means sky.


I think you mean Kanji (空) instead of Katakana?

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Offline sauv

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #11 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 21:28:23 »


I found it interesting because in Katakana, the same "sky"
character also meant "air or empty" in Chinese. When combined with the character
"sky" in Chinese, it also means sky.


I think you mean Kanji (空) instead of Katakana?

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yup, thanks so much for pointing that out! i'm not too versed in Japanese

Offline Alter uwu

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #12 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 21:35:38 »
Dope set wish it was more weeby though, also deskmats kind of meh to me personally

Offline vi0till

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #13 on: Sat, 05 December 2020, 21:55:26 »
I dont know if sublegend will fit the theme, but I personally would like to see alternative alpha kit with any sublegend. Katakana sublegend seems cool with this set. But I dont know if JTK offer Katakana sublegend.

Also, seeing open ICs of JTK with no firm GB date, do you consider to change to PBT?

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Offline darthcapn

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #14 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 01:20:56 »
Hawt! I am in!

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Offline Ustinj

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #15 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 01:51:30 »
it's nice!

Offline guybrush

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #16 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 01:56:36 »
I really like the colours. Novelties are beautiful. But yeah with it being a Japanese themed set I would perhaps like some hiragana/katakana sublegends.

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #17 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 02:56:13 »
Appreciate the omission of japanese sublegends in any of the options, looks clean :thumb:

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #18 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 03:34:21 »
The novelties art especially the sunset reminds me of Sunsetter Keyboard's logo:


Anyways I agree, Sunset alphas is clean & lit especially combined with GMK WS2.

Offline Ireris

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #19 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 04:40:45 »
Sublegends makes everything look messy, it looks clean rn

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Offline Havattack

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #20 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 11:58:14 »
Na, moon symbols always look dope, and make any set better. Commie symbols too.

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #21 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 12:04:08 »
those sunset alphas are

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I would love it if you made the sunset alphas into a whole second base kit tho. Or split the mods out from the base kit.

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #22 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 12:09:44 »
Nice set overall. I like the colors and I'm interested to see if that gold turns out how you expect it to.
I appreciate the numpad included in base, would like to see 40's support though (1.75u backspace, 1.25u Tab, etc...)

GLWIC

Offline Chippy

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #23 on: Sun, 06 December 2020, 13:36:18 »
Love triple shot novelties.
This and the swiss cheese keyboard is the next generation of keyboards

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #24 on: Sun, 13 December 2020, 14:45:06 »
I'd love to see a <> key for ISO support on the base kit.

Offline lluvia

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #25 on: Mon, 14 December 2020, 23:47:42 »
Quote
I found it interesting because in Kanji, the same "sky" (空) character also meant "air or empty" in Chinese Hanzi. When combined with the character (天) in Chinese, it also means sky (天空).

I know it seems nitpicky but the way you word it is misleading.

First, "Kanji" is literally adopted logographic Chinese characters. "Kanji" is just the Japanese way of reading "Hanzi," even the characters are the same (漢字). It is natural they mean the same in both languages.

Second, (天空) means the same in Japanese and Chinese. However in Japanese, (天空) is generally reserved as a poetic phrase which explicitly refers to the sky. It is abbreviated to the singular character of sora, which strongly suggest that it is "sky," though it can be air or empty, depending on context (aside from kanji in conjunction). On the other hand in Chinese, (天空) strictly refers to the sky, and the singular character of (空) would refer to air or empty, but not the sky.

This is further cemented with Japanese using (空) for describing weather (how the sky is), while Chinese uses (天) for weather (alongside the shared meaning between the two languages, such as "heaven," "referring to something above," aside from Japanese using [日] in place of [天] when describing days, like "today" or "yesterday."). (天) can mean sky in Japanese as well, though it is rarely used out of again, poetic usage. Disclaimer that there are always exceptions and less commonly used phrases that can be used but not adequate. (Japanese usually has the unique phrases as it is a language built on Chinese.) This is also the tip of the iceberg, for Japanese is a poetic language with many, many specific expressions.


JP <> CN

Weather/Sky
空模様 <> 天气形势
空色 <> 天蓝色
大空 (poetic: 蒼穹) <> 天空 (天穹 云霄 穹苍)
晴れ(空)(poetic: 晴天) <> 晴天
青空 (poetic: 青天) <> 青天
曇り空 (poetic: 曇天) <> 阴天
昼(昼間) (poetic: 白昼) <> 白天
雨空 (poetic:雨天) <> No singular phrase applicable
凍て空 <> No singular phrase applicable
雪空 <> No singular phrase applicable
冬空 <> No singular phrase applicable
秋空 <> No singular phrase applicable
夕空 <> No singular phrase applicable

Same expression
夜空
上空







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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #26 on: Sun, 27 December 2020, 22:16:23 »
hi everyone, been busy with the holidays so not a lot of updates. hope everyone else has enjoyed their holidays!

small update today:

my friend dany has helped done some new renders for the set- including one for the sunset kit (which is definitely lacking renders)
more renders will be on the way after the holidays.

reading the current feedback so far, i know some people are interested in sub-legends but i want to leave it without sub-legends for this set- especially since there are already two different alphas.

i am also heavily considering switching from the current UK-ISO support to more region-neutral ISO instead.


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Re: [IC] JTK Sora - small update with new renders
« Reply #27 on: Mon, 28 December 2020, 00:49:25 »
Nice lookin set, colorway kind of reminds me of Tokino Sora or maybe I just watch too much hololive...

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora - small update with new renders
« Reply #28 on: Wed, 30 December 2020, 17:50:21 »
this set looks very nice! i like the colors on it a lot, the gold legends/mods is the only thing i might be slightly iffy about but it sets it apart from the other similar pastel-y sets

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora - small update with new renders
« Reply #29 on: Wed, 30 December 2020, 21:34:13 »
Nice lookin set, colorway kind of reminds me of Tokino Sora or maybe I just watch too much hololive...

there is no too much hololive....
only not enough....

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora - small update with new renders
« Reply #30 on: Wed, 30 December 2020, 23:19:31 »
I really really like the pastel-y colors!

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora
« Reply #31 on: Mon, 04 January 2021, 10:46:05 »
Dope set wish it was more weeby though, also deskmats kind of meh to me personally
why u want more weeb smh

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora - small update with new renders
« Reply #32 on: Wed, 06 January 2021, 06:40:59 »
I'd buy :D

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora - small update with new renders
« Reply #33 on: Sat, 09 January 2021, 19:41:32 »
Hey Sauv! I'm really excited to see a set from you! I actually genuinely like this set and want to buy more sets from JTK so I will certainly be keeping up with this! GLWIC hope you get a lot of energy behind it! Talk to Lizcuits about renders too


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Re: [IC] JTK Sora - small update with new renders
« Reply #34 on: Wed, 13 January 2021, 22:53:25 »
Sunset Alphas and novelties, big yes.

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Re: [IC] JTK Sora - small update with new renders
« Reply #35 on: Fri, 15 January 2021, 10:54:52 »
would be great if you could have the modifiers and the alphas separately instead of one base kit, so i could get a whole sunset colours kit, I don't have the $ to get a whole base kit plus alphas when i'm not gonna use the blue alphas at all!

also if you were able to get a UK vendor that would be awesome, buying through the EU has become a lot more tricky with Brexit!